[Idiotekque]

thats wrong;
totally wrong;
steam dont like it when using vpn to activate keys, YES; but its not steam who decide to revoke the games then, its the publisher of the games,
I have many Ru-keys activated on my account, I had to let clear all Ru Bethesda keys via steam support as they got region locked, but with CoD keys for example there is still no problem, after a few years

thx
cyber

So since you haven't had a problem, clearly you're the authority on all VPN/RU subjects.

No, I've done my research, I know exactly what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter whether Steam or the publisher revokes the keys, Russian Steam keys DO get revoked, and keys redeemed via VPNs HAVE gotten accounts banned or locked (meaning, your library is more or less intact, but you are prohibited from activating new keys and buying new games via Steam). Whether or not some certain publishers are lazy about it doesn't make anything I said "totally wrong". Your entire argument seems to be that Russian CoD Steam keys didn't get revoked for you. Congratulations, but but one isolated user experience (regarding one publisher's games) does not determine how Steam OR the publishers react towards this subject.

Don't spread false information. And the thread was already derailed enough, I was simply trying to help out someone who asked a question. Do your research before needlessly arguing.

Edited by Idiotekque, 25 April 2013 - 07:02 AM.

[Needles-Kane]

Have:
Mercenaries 2 (Origin key, activate at https://activate.ea....activategame.do) $4

Steam keys for the following;
Age of Empires 3 Complete $9
Hotline Miami $4
Rage $5
Amazon GC

Want:
Amazon GC, sorry no Paypal.

[mkay87]

@Idiotekque:

Do your research. Russian keys can get revoked that's true. But the chance is not higher than other keys bought from keystores (also EU/UK/US keys).
I have masses of RU keys in my account. Some activated with VPN, some not.
And no game - i repeat - no game ever got revoked.
Also none of my over 100 friends on Steam ever had any problems with those keys. So don't panic if you haven't got any experience in that.

Edited by mkay87, 25 April 2013 - 07:34 AM.
edit

[Idiotekque]

@Idiotekque:

Do your research. Russian keys can get revoked that's true. But the chance is not higher as other keys bought from keystores (also EU/UK/US keys).
I have masses of RU keys in my account. Some activated with VPN, some not.
And no game - i repeat - no game ever got revoked.
Also none of my over 100 friends on Steam ever had any problems with those keys. So don't make panic if you haven't got any experience in that.

So once again (same thing, different person), since you have not had a problem, and since all your quasi-pirate friends have not had a problem, you're correct.

Let me put this simply:

• Keys that are not of YOUR region can get revoked (I never said only Russian keys get revoked, that was simply what was originally under discussion).
• Keys activated via VPN have gotten accounts banned (try it, you may be fine, but it's happened before to various people and it will happen again).
• Gifted out of region games almost never draw any issues (although I know of at least two people who got in trouble for this, but had Steam resolve their issues later on, with or without warnings).

MANY times, this price evasion draws no repercussions from Steam/publishers, whether those repercussions be bans or revokes, but it has happened numerous times and continues to happen. Just because you and your friends have not been unlucky enough to have problems with this does not mean that the risk does not exist, so kindly, do your own research.

[mkay87]

So once again, since you have not had a problem, and since all your quasi-pirate friends have not had a problem, you're correct.

Let me put this simply:

• 1. Keys that are not of YOUR region can get revoked (I never said only Russian keys get revoked).
• 2. Keys activated via VPN have gotten accounts banned (try it, you may be fine, but it's happened before to various people and it will happen again).
• 3. Gifted out of region games almost never draw any issues (although I know of at least two people who got in trouble for this, but had their Steam resolve their issues later on).

MANY times, this price evasion draws no repercussions from Steam/publishers, whether those repercussions be bans or revokes, but it has happened numerous times and continues to happen. Just because you and your friends have not been unlucky enough to have problems with this does not mean that the risk does not exist, so kindly, do your own research.

To your points:

1. All keys can get revoked. But they get revoked because the keyshops bought it with stolen credit cards ...
If the keys are legally bought there is only a tiny theoretical chance. So maybe one in a million has problems.

2. Show me one user who got banned because of activating games with VPN. Thats theoretical too because of the Steam SSA but in fact people just get banned on Steam when they start buying with vpn in different stores. Activating is fine, no one got banned for that.

3. They can. Sometimes the have the same region lock as retail russian (as an example) keys. So you only have the chance to install and play the games if you use a VPN. But you cannot get banned for using those gifts.
You can get problems if you gift those games to others or massively use that opportunity. I know what i'm talking about. Some friends of mine got a warning for gifting games from their stores to users like me (not using vpn to buy). And i got a warning for massively using that option. So you have to be careful too if you want some gifts from a different region.

To sum it up:

Today you only get problems if you're buying with VPN in different stores and your keys get revoked (from the publisher) if they are on a blacklist because they where bought with e.g. stolen credit cards.

[georgebot84]

Have:

Diablo III Blizzard retail key -- 25.00

Steam Keys:

Darksiders 1 - 2.50
Red Faction Armageddon + Path to War - 2.00
Titan Quest Gold - 3.00
Prototype 2 Radnet DLC - 1.00
Warhammer Dawn of War II - 1.00
Warhammer DoW II Retribution Last Stand Complete DLC pack - 1.00
Red Faction Guerrilla - 3.00
Metro 2033

Want:

Painkiller HD
Amazon GC/interesting offers

[Idiotekque]

To your points:

1. All keys can get revoked. But they get revoked because the keyshops bought it with stolen credit cards ...
If the keys are legally bought there is only a tiny theoretical chance. So maybe one in a million has problems.

2. Show me one user who got banned because of activating games with VPN. Thats theoretical too because of the Steam SSA but in fact people just get banned on Steam when they start buying with vpn in different stores. Activating is fine, no one got banned for that.

3. They can. Sometimes the have the same region lock as retail russian (as an example) keys. So you only have the chance to install and play the games if you use a VPN. But you cannot get banned for using those gifts.
You can get problems if you gift those games to others or massively use that opportunity. I know what i'm talking about. Some friends of mine got a warning for gifting games from their stores to users like me (not using vpn to buy). And i got a warning for massively using that option. So you have to be careful too if you want some gifts from a different region.

To sum it up:

Today you only get problems if you're buying with VPN in different stores and your keys get revoked (from the publisher) if they are on a blacklist because they where bought with e.g. stolen credit cards.

I'm not even sure what you're arguing at this point. You basically said "Yes, you're right, but it's rare" on everything I said, which is what I was saying in the first place. Yes, you're usually fine, but shit happens.

Someone here even bought a gift from a completely legitimate source and had his account locked (his library was safe, but he couldn't buy/activate more games). A few weeks later, Steam support got back to him, gave him a warning about out of region gifts, and unlocked his account.

This is one example of (arguably) the safest out of region practice existing, and it still received relatively harsh punishment. I'm not going to delve back into the dozen of examples and first hand accounts I've read to counter whatever you're saying, but the fact is that people have had their accounts banned/locked/whatever for the wide spectrum of different shady practices that exist with out of region keys, VPN usage, etc.

Long story short: Don't do it. If you're gonna be dishonest about things, why not just pirate. It's free, it doesn't risk your Steam account, and virtually never gets anyone in trouble. I'm not endorsing that, but honestly, why bother.

[IronChariot]

Have:

Crysis 3 $20
Starcraft 2 Heart of the Swarm $35

I accept Amazon.com gift card

[r9800pro]

So since you haven't had a problem, clearly you're the authority on all VPN/RU subjects.

No, I've done my research, I know exactly what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter whether Steam or the publisher revokes the keys, Russian Steam keys DO get revoked, and keys redeemed via VPNs HAVE gotten accounts banned or locked (meaning, your library is more or less intact, but you are prohibited from activating new keys and buying new games via Steam). Whether or not some certain publishers are lazy about it doesn't make anything I said "totally wrong". Your entire argument seems to be that Russian CoD Steam keys didn't get revoked for you. Congratulations, but but one isolated user experience (regarding one publisher's games) does not determine how Steam OR the publishers react towards this subject.

Don't spread false information. And the thread was already derailed enough, I was simply trying to help out someone who asked a question. Do your research before needlessly arguing.

Basically, any key or even gift can get revoked from any account "only" if it was acquired with a fraudulent activity (stolen credit card) or if you asked support to do so (in case you got another version that can't be added to library with the existing one).

Registering region restricted keys using a VPN has no consequences at all on your Steam account unless it was stolen and any ban would be for few days only till you contact support.

The worst thing that can happen is if you activated a new game that may get locked down the road (ie, Rage)

That being said, I don't like messing around with RU/CIS keys for any game and the only time I used VPN to activate a game was Inversion US locked Steam key that I bought without knowing it is locked.

[Daniel89x]

Have:
--steam gifts-- :
14$ Dead Space Pack (gift)
7.5$ Borderlands GOTY (gift)
3$ Death Rally (gift)
3$ Sanctum (gift)

--paypal--


--steam keys-- :

Spoiler

Killing Floor Bundle (11 DLCs)
Bastion
Darksiders 1
Red Faction Guerilla
Red Faction Armageddon ( have also dlc if needed)
Red Orchestra 1
Red Orchestra 2
Killing Floor: PostMortem Character Pack
Shank 2
Dungeons: The Dark Lord
Home
AirBuccaneers
Victoria II
Painkiller: Black Edition
Magicka and Magicka Vietnam DLC
Metro 2033
Eschalon Book II
The Basement Collection
Cities in Motion
GT Legends
Swords & Soldiers HD
Eufloria
Party of Sin
The Adventures of Shuggy
Bomber Defense Pacific
Crayon Physics Deluxe
XIII Century Gold
Offspring Fling
Cogs
Galactic Arms Race
Men of War: Assault Squad - DLC Pack
Superbrothers: Sword & Sworcery EP
Splice
Zen Bound 2

Want:
Paypal
Duke Nukem Forever: The Doctor Who Cloned Me DLC
Forge (looking to pay 1 $ paypal)
Offers

U can add me on steam if u see me online and want a quick chat

[chimaeraxxx]

That being said, I don't like messing around with RU/CIS keys for any game and the only time I used VPN to activate a game was Inversion US locked Steam key that I bought without knowing it is locked.

Yeap, same thing for me, bought inversion from amazon and had VPN activate it.

[didamangi]

Have steam keys:
Hell Yeah! $3.75
Unmechanical $2.5
Magicka $2.5

Want:
Paypal

[fgq]

Have: Dragon Age: Origins

Want: Paypal, Amazon GC or Trade.

[Enyalios]

Looking for Humble Weekly Sale: Tripwire Bundle

Please PM me if you have

[warreni]

[H] Forge - $1.50, Waking Mars - $1, Red Orchestra 1 - $0.50, Atom Zombie Smasher - $0.50, Flotilla - $0.50

[W] Paypal

All are Steam keys except Forge (Steam gift). I will also trade for Zombie Driver HD+DLC/Soundtrack from IG ME.

I also have two Killing Floor and three Red Orchestra 2 guest passes, free to a good home.

Edited by warreni, 25 April 2013 - 08:17 PM.

[Hadley]

Have (SteamKeys):
- Fallout: New Vegas Ultimate Edition 12$
- The Elder Scrolls: Morrowind GotY 5$
- R.U.S.E 4$
- RAGE 5$
- Rogue Warrior 5$
- Hunted: Demons Forge 4$

Want:
PayPal (verified)
Dragon Age: Origins Ultimate (SteamGift)[/QUOTE]

[PetersHere]

Have:


New*** Shattered Haven (gift) $5

King Arthur 1 + 2 Collection $1

Bang Bang Racing $2.50

Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine $5

Penumbra Overture (gift) $2

Puzzle Kingdoms (gift) $3

Men of War: Assault Squad - DLC Pack $1.50

Paranormal (Desura) $.50

War of the Human Tanks (Desura) $2.00

Magicka: Glüüms Temple! $.50

Demigod $1.00

Defcon $1.00

Uplink $1.00

Darwinia + Multiwinia $1.00


400 Microsoft Points $3.50


Want:

Paypal

[stupidproz1]

Indie Gala Mass Effect happy hour bundles for $1.95 each.
*Includes Origin key for Mass Effect 2. Includes Steam keys for Shank 2, Shadowgrounds Survivor, Zombie Driver HD, Zombie Driver Apocalypse Pack, Zombie Driver Soundtrack, Shadowgrounds. Includes Desura keys for Adventure Apes, Kill Fun Yeah, Gimbal

Indie Gala Dwarves happy hour bundles for $1.75 each. *Includes Steam keys for Gettysburg: Armored Warfare, A Game of Dwarves, Europa Universalis III: Chronicles Collection, Defenders of Ardania. Also includes DRM/Gamersgate copies of Guilty Gear Isuka, Street Racing Syndicate, Gun Metal and Nosferatu

Humble Bundle with Andriod 5 for $2 each *Includes individual Steam keys for Dynamite Jack, Beat Hazard Ultra, Nightsky, Solar 2, Superbrothers: Swoard & Sworcery EP, Splice, Crayon Physics Deluxe

Steam keys: (Or everything in the Steam key section / in Red color for $5.00)
Earth 2160 ($1)
Avadon: The Black Fortress ($1)
Shadowgrounds ($0.75)
Shadowgrounds Survivor ($0.75)
Metal Drift ($0.75)
Wasteland Angel ($0.75)
Nikopol: Secrets of the Immortals ($0.75)
Chrome Specforce ($0.75)
Beat Hazard Ultra ($0.50)
Crayon Physics Deluxe ($0.50)


I prefer PayPal.

[Fozbot]

[h] Indie Gala Mass Effect BTA gifts - $2.25
[w] Paypal gift

Edited by Fozbot, 25 April 2013 - 03:47 PM.

[plvl]

Have dragon age origins, paypal, mass effect 2 origin

Want=
10$ for da:o ue
Cart life
Ftl
Party of sin
To the moon
Dust force
Raccareer item shop tale
Hib 2
Smooth operators
Dead pixles
LA Noir complete
Spec ops the line

Edited by plvl, 25 April 2013 - 05:06 PM.

[Senor Sarge]

Any Monaco 4-pack groups going on? All the positive reviews have me itching to try it, and all the better if I can get it for $11.25 instead of $15.

[Tonesque]

Have:

Bioshock Infinite $21
Red Faction Guerrilla: $2

Want:

Paypal
LA Noire Complete Edition
Kingdoms of Amalur Complete
Driver San Francisco

[BaeStuped]

H:
Indie Gala Flash BTA Bundles: Includes

Spoiler

Steam Keys for Miner Wars Arena, Miner Wars 2081, Earth Defense Force: Insect Armageddon, Vegas Make It Big, Fireburst, Zombie Pirates

- $2 (Only 8 left!)

Indie Gala Colossus BTA Bundles: Includes

Spoiler

Steam Keys for Darwinia, Multiwinia, Uplink, Defcon, Demigod, Hearts of Iron III, Galactic Civilizations I, and King Arthur Complete Collection (King Arthur, King Arthur II + Dead Legions DLC, King Arthur Fallen Champions

- $2 (Only 3 left!)

Indie Gala Dwarves BTA Full Bundles: Includes

Spoiler

Steam Keys for Gettysburg, A Game of Dwarves, Warlock: Master of the Arcane, Defenders of Arcania, Europa Universalis III: Chronicles Collection and Gamersgate keys for Street Racing Syndicate, Guilty Gear Isuka, Gun Metal

- $2

Sniper Elite: Nazi Zombie Army (Steam Key) - $6

***************************************************************************************************************************
Leftover Bundle Steam Keys:

Syberia 1 + 2 - $2.49
Spacechem - .50
The Journey Down - .50
Ibomber Defense - .50
Waveform - $1
Avadon - Black Fortress - $1
Tobe's Vertical Adventure - .75

Edited by CheapLikeAFox, 25 April 2013 - 09:13 PM.

[DaiMonPaul]

Have (Steam keys):
Crayon Physics Deluxe - 50¢
Crazy Machines 1 - 75¢
Europa Universalis 3: Chronicles - $1.50
Galactic Civilizations 1 - 50¢
Gettysburg: Armored Warfare - 50¢
Hearts of Iron 3 - 50¢
Nuclear Dawn - 75¢
Superbrothers: Sword & Sworcery EP - 50¢

Have (Desura keys):
Cognition, Episode 1 - 75¢
EvilQuest - 75¢


Want:
-PayPal
-Children of the Nile: Alexandria
-Mafia 2 (prefer to trade for, unless it's a really good deal)
-Singularity
-Two Worlds 1: Epic Edition
-World of Goo
-Other offers (take a look at what I have and don't have)


All prices are negotiable, especially if you want more than one game. Send me an offer and we'll talk!

[:Mephistox:]

PM me with the payment service of your choice and which game(s) you are interested in.
20% discount when buying 5+ games!
***PLEASE MAKE ROOM IN YOUR PM INBOX***

HAVE:
Steam Tradables:

• Duke Nukem 3D Megaton Edition - $7.50
• Red Orchestra 2 GOTY (3-Day Guest Pass) - FREE
• Serious Sam Classic: The First Encounter - $2.00
• Serious Sam Classic: The Second Encounter - $2.00
• Serious Sam 3 - $8.00
• Starvoid - $2.00

Steam Keys:

• Adventures of Shuggy, The - $1.00
• Alien Breed 2 - $1.25
• Atom Zombie Smasher -$1.00
• Binary Domain - $5.75
• Blacklight: Tango Down - $1.75
• Chrome - $1.00
• Cogs- $1.00
• Cortex Command - $2.50
• Cubemen - $1.00
• Cryostasis - $1.50
• Darksiders - $2.50
• Darwinia - $1.00
• Dead Horde - $1.00
• Defenders of Ardania - $1.50
• Earth 2160 - $1.50
• Fireburst - $1.00
• Future Wars - $1.00
• Game of Dwarves, A - $1.00
• Geneforge Saga - $1.00
• Gettysburg: Armored Warfare - $1.00
• Greed: Black Border - $1.00
• Guns of Icarus - $1.00
• Home - $1.00
• King's Bounty: The Legend - $1.75
• Kung Fu Strike: The Warrior's Rise - $1.50
• Majesty 2 - $1.00
• Men of War - $1.50
• Metal Drift - $1.00
• Miner Wars 2081- $1.00
• Miner Wars Arena - $1.00
• Multiwinia - $1.00
• Red Orchestra: Osfront 41-45 - $1.00
• Reing: Conflict of Nations - $1.00
• Rig 'N Roll - $1.25
• Shadowgrounds - $1.00
• Shadowgrounds: Survivor - $1.00
• Shank 2 - $1.00
• SpaceChem - $1.00
• Splice - $1.00
• Steel Storm: Burning Retribution - $1.00
• Superbrothers - Sword & Sworcery EP - $1.00
• Titan Quest -$1.75
• Trapped Dead - $1.00
• Trauma - $1.00
• Two Worlds II - $2.75
• Unstoppable Gorg - $1.00
• UFO: Afterlight - $1.75
• Uplink - $1.00
• Vegas: Make It Big - $1.00
• Victoria II - $1.50
• Warlock: Master of the Arcane - $1.50
• War of the Roses: House of York Armor Set DLC - $0.50
• Zen Bound 2 - $1.00
• Zombie Pirates - $1.00

Desura Keys:

• Battlegroup - $1.00
• Battlemass - $1.00
• Beware Planet Earth! - $1.00
• Fibrillation - $1.00
• Oniken - $1.00
• Paranormal - $1.00

GamersGate Keys:

• Cities in Motion - $1.00

Origin Keys:

• Mass Effect 2 - $3.00

Topware Store Keys:

• Earth 2140 Trilogy - $1.00
• Earth 2150 Trilogy- $1.00
• Earth 2160 - $1.00
• Jagged Alliance: Wildfire - $1.00
• Knights and Merchants - $1.00
• World War II: Panzer Claws - $1.00

Want:

• Amazon GC
• PayPal Gift (Family and Friends)

PM me with the payment service of your choice and which game(s) you are interested in.
20% Discount when buying 5+ games!
***PLEASE MAKE ROOM IN YOUR PM INBOX***

[bubzers]

HAVE:
-PayPal

Random bundle leftovers (listed below)
$1.00 : Warlock Master of the Arcane (Steam key)
$1.00 : Gun Metal (GamersGate gift)


WANT:
-PayPal
-Amazon GC

-[pending] Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon
-Bioshock Infinite Season Pass

-Desura keys from indie bundles (PM me with what you have)

[r9800pro]

Have:

Bioshock Infinite

Tomb Raider

Darksiders Franchise Pack (Darksiders, Darksiders II and all DLCs. No longer available on Steam as one pack)

SPORE™ Complete Pack

Battlefield: Bad Company™ 2

Painkiller Hell & Damnation

Two Worlds II: Velvet Edition

Game of Thrones Bundle

Red Faction®: Armageddon™

Red Faction: Armageddon Path to War DLC

Metro 2033

Half Minute Hero: Super Mega Neo Climax Ultimate Boy

Deadlight + Soundtrack

Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet

Toy Soldiers

Prototype 2: RADNET DLC Pack

King's Bounty: The Legend



Want:

Multiple copies of Dragon Age: Origins Ultimate Edition from Steam sale before it ends

TF2 keys offers

Remember Me Pre-order

Grid 2 Pre-order

Star Trek Pre-order

[mnuttster]

H: Mass Effect 2 (Origin) or Magicka + Vietnam DLC (Steam)
W: Forge, Poker Night at the Inventory 2, or Bioshock 1

[KLIKR]

[W] Forge
[H] $1.25 Paypal/Amazon GC

Edited by KLIKR, 25 April 2013 - 08:16 PM.
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