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The HP Touchpad Guide Thread (get help with webOS, preware, video converters, etc)


#31 floppywopper   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   14 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

floppywopper

Posted 27 August 2011 - 11:14 PM

i cant find a way to transfer my PDFs from my computer to my TP. can anyone help? apparently the only way to do it is to send it to your email then save it from your touchpad.


Have you tried just using it as a USB drive?

#32 evildeadjedi   RIP DIO \m/ \m/ CAGiversary!   4750 Posts   Joined 12.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 11:17 PM

i cant find a way to transfer my PDFs from my computer to my TP. can anyone help? apparently the only way to do it is to send it to your email then save it from your touchpad.


Can't help ya there chief I just uploaded mine to box.net.

#33 Nagasami   Nagasami-san of the Oda clan CAGiversary!   389 Posts   Joined 9.9 Years Ago  

Posted 27 August 2011 - 11:20 PM

yeah I'll turn off logging and see if that's good enough.

anyone know how to remove a just type search engine I added by mistake?


Doesnt the "Just type" search appear on all HP touchpad?

#34 david12795  

Posted 27 August 2011 - 11:23 PM

Have you tried just using it as a USB drive?


yep. nothing pops up. my computer says successfully installed.


Can't help ya there chief I just uploaded mine to box.net.


ill try that next time. do i have to be connected to wifi to access it?


it should read pdfs from anywhere on the pad root


everytime i try to open the removable disk it says "cant be opened"

#35 Jacoblee23   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   368 Posts   Joined 9.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 11:29 PM

Possible brick/shorter life span.


I've heard that if you just overclock it to 1.5, that it really doesn't hurt it at all, because that was what the device was intended to run at.

#36 DirkBelig   The Belligerent One CAGiversary!   1512 Posts   Joined 16.7 Years Ago  

Posted 27 August 2011 - 11:35 PM

is there a downside to overclocking the unit?

If you don't go crazy with OC'ing, you shouldn't have much trouble at all. Electronics are hella robust these days and built to run faster than they usually are. I've got my CPU and video cards OC'ed and they're fine - my CPU is running faster than one that costs five times as much.

The biggest problem is battery life is shortened. If you're looking to wring as much use out of a charge as possible, you don't want to OC. (Some used to UNDERclock their Pres for more run time.) If you want peppy performance, though, by all means mash the accelerator to some extent. What's useful about these mods and kernels is that expert nerds have already figured out what's stable and what's sketchy so all you need to do is apply the patches. If they say the 1.5 GHz patch is stable, but the 1.7 GHz is occasionally flaky, go with the 1.5 version unless you're a nerd thrill seeker who needs MOAR POWWAH!!!

#37 david12795  

Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:01 AM

all right so i managed to transfer my PDFs to my TP via USB and dragged it onto the root. however one of my PDFs is 38 MB and it can be slow on loading . any solution to fix this?

#38 ChunLiBarbie   Bloogablogglefliddlemliddle CAGiversary!   5539 Posts   Joined 10.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 01:13 AM

I think u should get the Matte one because the Hp is fingerprint magnet lol


Hiya! Sorry, I guess it doesn't charge through the computer. Seeing the connection sign, while plugged in, obviously, had me confused.

#39 Nagasami   Nagasami-san of the Oda clan CAGiversary!   389 Posts   Joined 9.9 Years Ago  

Posted 28 August 2011 - 01:15 AM

Hiya! Sorry, I guess it doesn't charge through the computer. Seeing the connection sign, while plugged in, obviously, had me confused.


Oh, after i tried again i didnt see it charging either. Btw people confirmed that it actually charging but really slow.

#40 doubledown   Funky Daddy CAGiversary!   11758 Posts   Joined 17.2 Years Ago  

Posted 28 August 2011 - 01:24 AM

Lol. That would've been my other guess, because I had it plugged in for 30 minutes or so with no type of results.


it does charge via USB on the computer, just really slow. Mine charged overnight though

#41 aFrostyONE   Crocketty Year 1 player... where's my Phil Collins overdub&a CAGiversary!   3147 Posts   Joined 13.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 01:27 AM

I've been fortunate so far as to not have an issue with much regarding my Touchpad. A CAG on the deals thread mentioned webOS doctor (it's under Troubleshooting in the 1st post). Try that, it's supposed to restore functionality and update the webOS software/apps on it.


Thanks for the advice. Gave it a try but webOS doctor wouldn't initialize properly, which turned out to be a good thing

I called the webOS Butler line this morning to get advice and they recommended that I go to Device info->Restore options->Erase apps and data. That did the trick:bouncy:

HP apps works again and downloads are working as well; no fails.

By the way, shouldn't this thread be moved over to Mobile Gaming. Might get more views there alongside ISO, android and W7. Regardless, appreciate it even exists:)

#42 Lord Hamm   Give me a Dollar! CAGiversary!   1092 Posts   Joined 18.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 01:39 AM

i was going to ask you what are the cons....yeah i dont feel like overclocking it anywhere seeing as i just got it :P


No cons that I can see considering the unit runs natively at 1.5 ghz and hp intentionally underclocked the unit...

As for the debugging logs that was just stupid on the part of HP and Palm becuase removing just the logging speeds the unit up considerably(Probably making it the fastest tablet out there)

Once you get the preware installed you'll see that installing the kernal for OC is like downlaoding any app and its just seems too easy not to do it and it will give you another nice boost(Quake loaded about twice as fast with 1.5 as oppsed to 1.2)

The Overclocking Govnah app also allows you to underclock the unit for power saving and other features as well(Exibition ect)

Difference is like night and day.....

http://forums.precen...rted-guide.html

#43 iggypop123   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   434 Posts   Joined 13.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 02:58 AM

I have run the touchpad with and without the preware and so have a few friends. I would suggest staying away from it unless you get into the mood to be geeky. The overclocking will kill your battery in about an hour also I do not see the need for it as the touchpad is not slow on its own. As far as the preware it makes some difference but not much. You can quiet the logging without using preware at all just google how to quiet the touchpad logging and you should get the how to without hacking your system. Also be aware that there is an update to webos to 3.0.2 and if you aren't 100% positive that it is on your system do not install preware. First reason is the updater says your system is up to date after you click update and it goes through a unpacking process which many people believe it is truly up to date and then install preware and after you cannot in most cases install the update after the preware and some apps and hacks need that update to work.

Like I said unless you are one of those people that have to just get in and play with the guts or unless you find that your touchpad is painfully slow (which I doubt will happen) then maybe. But out of the box there is really no need for it and the touchpad is fine on it's own if you didn't get a brick from the store.

good luck and have fun.


what about killing the logging? or reducing it to almost nothing? that worth it? thats not techincally going all out geeky

#44 milleniumbugx   Hustle 'n Flow CAGiversary!   54 Posts   Joined 10.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 03:00 AM

all right so i managed to transfer my PDFs to my TP via USB and dragged it onto the root. however one of my PDFs is 38 MB and it can be slow on loading . any solution to fix this?


I wish I knew a fix, I have some PDFs in the 50mb range and wait times are...long.

#45 Poor2More   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   4008 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

Posted 28 August 2011 - 03:04 AM

I have run the touchpad with and without the preware and so have a few friends. I would suggest staying away from it unless you get into the mood to be geeky. The overclocking will kill your battery in about an hour also I do not see the need for it as the touchpad is not slow on its own. As far as the preware it makes some difference but not much. You can quiet the logging without using preware at all just google how to quiet the touchpad logging and you should get the how to without hacking your system. Also be aware that there is an update to webos to 3.0.2 and if you aren't 100% positive that it is on your system do not install preware. First reason is the updater says your system is up to date after you click update and it goes through a unpacking process which many people believe it is truly up to date and then install preware and after you cannot in most cases install the update after the preware and some apps and hacks need that update to work.

Like I said unless you are one of those people that have to just get in and play with the guts or unless you find that your touchpad is painfully slow (which I doubt will happen) then maybe. But out of the box there is really no need for it and the touchpad is fine on it's own if you didn't get a brick from the store.

good luck and have fun.


I agree the touchpad is good speed out the box, just turn logging to minimal and speed is fast now, sure you can do the preware mod also to make it very fast. I will settle with fast with good battery life, rather then very fast with poor battery. Though its really up to the user, I pretty much can say without a doubt overclocking to 1.5 ghz will do no harm, alienware and other gaming pc's actually recommend it, just dont try to go over the limitations of the TP (OC it too high where it becomes unstable). Only type of mod I will try is putting Android on here, but then again I am rather liking WebOS alot.

#46 Poor2More   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   4008 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

Posted 28 August 2011 - 03:06 AM

That can be done without preware read my post again please. I am not against it I just think people should have the full scope and the warnings before doing it that is all.

:D


Actually you cant kill logging without Preware, you can only set it to minimal out the box.

#47 McNutsack   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   825 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

Posted 28 August 2011 - 03:11 AM

I refuse to believe it only lasts an hour with the preware and stuff installed. Not even my ten year old laptop battery is that bad. Can any one else verify the battery life before and after?

#48 Jacoblee23   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   368 Posts   Joined 9.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 03:15 AM

That can be done without preware read my post again please. I am not against it I just think people should have the full scope and the warnings before doing it that is all.

:D


I refuse to believe it only lasts an hour with the preware and stuff installed. Not even my ten year old laptop battery is that bad. Can any one else verify the battery life before and after?


I have over clocked mine to 1.5, and while the battery isn't quite as good, I haven't noticed a huge difference. It definitely lasts more than an hour lol.

#49 Nagasami   Nagasami-san of the Oda clan CAGiversary!   389 Posts   Joined 9.9 Years Ago  

Posted 28 August 2011 - 03:16 AM

I refuse to believe it only lasts an hour with the preware and stuff installed. Not even my ten year old laptop battery is that bad. Can any one else verify the battery life before and after?


an hour? i dont think so...you meant 1h constant usage? that wouldnt be the case either.

#50 Poor2More   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   4008 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

Posted 28 August 2011 - 03:16 AM

Pleas use ORB on the HP TouchPad (Stream moves, music, pictures straight from any PC) Works like any numerous apps on IPad for streaming (AirVideo), its FREE!

Follow the detail instructions in the link (PreCentral Forums)
http://forums.precen...2085-post1.html

This should be put in the OP, the Touchpad does NOT have to have preware to use it. The best thing about it, is it plays every video format your computer is capable of since its streaming.

#51 McNutsack   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   825 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

Posted 28 August 2011 - 03:18 AM

an hour? i dont think so...you meant 1h constant usage? that wouldnt be the case either.


Yes, someone said it only lasts an hour. It was on the last page, the guy that suggested we dont overclock...im on my phone and too lazy to see who it was and quote him.ehh. i knew he had to be way off though

#52 Poor2More   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   4008 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

Posted 28 August 2011 - 03:27 AM

Please use ORB Caster on the HP TouchPad (Stream movies, music, pictures straight from any PC) Works like any numerous apps on IPad for streaming (AirVideo), its FREE!

Follow the detail instructions in the link (PreCentral Forums)
http://forums.precen...2085-post1.html

This should be put in the OP, the Touchpad does NOT have to have preware to use it. The best thing about it, is it plays every video format your computer is capable of since its streaming. This also means you dont have to convert videos to correct format, saves a bunch of time.

I tried to put it in the Wiki (OP) but coulden't highlight the link, feel free to add it.

#53 Aryss   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   476 Posts   Joined 17.2 Years Ago  

Posted 28 August 2011 - 03:31 AM

Here is a comparison. Look in the comments about battery. I have read several comparisons of the battery life and its very small.

I haven't overclocked yet but all the preware mods and logging will make a big difference. They are safe to do. We are not talking about minutes here. I am playing 720p mkv encodes and trying to break this and I can't at stock speed.



#54 arsenalcrazy8   As Cheap As Wenger. CAGiversary!   2410 Posts   Joined 11.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 03:44 AM

I kinda wanna overlock my TP...but Im not sure how it will affect the battery life...

#55 McNutsack   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   825 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

Posted 28 August 2011 - 03:48 AM

Based on that video, im not impressed with overclocking at all. Im not an important , busy person that needs to save a fraction of a second doing tasks on a Tablet. Ill search for other videos before I jump to conclusions, though. And look for more info on battery difference

#56 David Hibiki   You must be tired... CAGiversary!   11920 Posts   Joined 18.1 Years Ago  

David Hibiki

Posted 28 August 2011 - 03:48 AM

Yeah that overclocking doesn't sound worth it. But hey, every second counts right?

#57 arsenalcrazy8   As Cheap As Wenger. CAGiversary!   2410 Posts   Joined 11.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 03:57 AM

Based on that video, im not impressed with overclocking at all. Im not an important , busy person that needs to save a fraction of a second doing tasks on a Tablet. Ill search for other videos before I jump to conclusions, though. And look for more info on battery difference


agreed...if theres anything that video told me to do...its to NOT overclock lol

#58 killer9   Redacted CAGiversary!   6292 Posts   Joined 13.9 Years Ago  

Posted 28 August 2011 - 03:59 AM

that video is a terrible selling point for overclocking it could barely beat and some times not even beat stock hp tablet fail

#59 Lord Hamm   Give me a Dollar! CAGiversary!   1092 Posts   Joined 18.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 03:59 AM

I have run the touchpad with and without the preware and so have a few friends. I would suggest staying away from it unless you get into the mood to be geeky. The overclocking will kill your battery in about an hour also I do not see the need for it as the touchpad is not slow on its own. As far as the preware it makes some difference but not much. You can quiet the logging without using preware at all just google how to quiet the touchpad logging and you should get the how to without hacking your system. Also be aware that there is an update to webos to 3.0.2 and if you aren't 100% positive that it is on your system do not install preware. First reason is the updater says your system is up to date after you click update and it goes through a unpacking process which many people believe it is truly up to date and then install preware and after you cannot in most cases install the update after the preware and some apps and hacks need that update to work.

Like I said unless you are one of those people that have to just get in and play with the guts or unless you find that your touchpad is painfully slow (which I doubt will happen) then maybe. But out of the box there is really no need for it and the touchpad is fine on it's own if you didn't get a brick from the store.

good luck and have fun.


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Was the wall of bullshit necessary?

#60 IronZombie   Time to Feed CAGiversary!   1486 Posts   Joined 10.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 04:03 AM

Overclocking is more to make the thing run through apps and such and such quicker and smoother. For me it doesn't have a big precedence over battery life as well as the TP's lifespan itself. I've already limited the logging on the thing and have updated to the latest version so it runs pretty smooth. I think that if you're on the fence on whether to overclock or not, you should probably not do it. Save yourself the heartache and just let it go. It doesn't make that big of a difference in my opinion.