Metal Gear Solid HD Collection VITA $19.99 @ Amazon.com

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[DEAD] Someone posted about the other versions, but the Vita version is also available on Amazon.com for $19.99. For those who don't know, the Vita version does not include 'Peace Walker' like the standard console versions.
 
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[quote name='LawLessChaoz']Is it important that I play MGS for PS1 before I play these?[/QUOTE]

3 (the best IMO) can be played without playing any other games since it's a prequel and takes place before every other game. 2 was my first MGS game and they do pretty well filling you in so you shouldn't have any problems understanding most of it.
 
[quote name='LawLessChaoz']Is it important that I play MGS for PS1 before I play these?[/QUOTE]

Not at all, but it would just enhance the experience. Especially near the end of 2
 
[quote name='LawLessChaoz']Is it important that I play MGS for PS1 before I play these?[/QUOTE]

Preferably you'd want too, to make the experience better but you can still understand what's going on. Here's a timeline
 
[quote name='LawLessChaoz']Is it important that I play MGS for PS1 before I play these?[/QUOTE]

I would just because it's still the best in the series. I found MGS3 tedious by comparison.
 
[quote name='TommyLove']Does anyone know if the vita will ever have a accessory to connect to the tv, similar to the psp?[/QUOTE]

IGN says they haven't even gotten a developer's version of the Vita that has an HDMI out due to availability and cost. This is why their reviews are of someone filming a vita screen. That's pretty pathetic that Sony won't get better equipment to reviewers so their product looks better in review videos, etc. But that's Sony marketing for you.

So it sounds like video out is not a huge priority for Sony and the Vita any time soon...
 
[quote name='LawLessChaoz']Is it important that I play MGS for PS1 before I play these?[/QUOTE]

I still think its the most memorable. Its much better than 2 at the very least, but 3 is my favorite.
 
Argh. 30 minute train ride (hour roundtrip) worth losing out on Peace Walker? I don't have enough time to play as it is so when I'm home, I like to stick to current gen games.
 
[quote name='LawLessChaoz']Is it important that I play MGS for PS1 before I play these?[/QUOTE]

Play MGS for PS1 and then stop. That is/was a legendary game. These others, for me, leave a lot to be desired.
 
[quote name='LawLessChaoz']Is it important that I play MGS for PS1 before I play these?[/QUOTE]

Anyone that tells you no is a noob. You need to know what went down in shadow moses even before playing snake eater you should know this. Skipping one you''ll also miss out on the famous torture scene that many of us had to get turbo controllers to unlock the bandana. The stealth camo was easy to unlock.

I been playing and beating the first MGS since I'm about 10 years old.

I skipped out on the NES titles till I was older. Which was only because I didn't start gaming till age 5 with Genesis, N64, PS1.
 
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[quote name='needler420']Anyone that tells you no is a noob. You need to know what went down in shadow moses even before playing snake eater you should know this.

I been playing and beating the first MGS since I'm about 10 years old.

I skipped out on the NES titles till I was older. Which was only because I didn't start gaming till age 5 with Genesis, N64, PS1.[/QUOTE]

This is a perfect example of a guy you should not pay attention to.

You don't need to know what went down in mgs 1 because there enough cutscenes w/flashbacks to fill you in.

I know when I played mgs2 first in 2005, I never did not play the first one.
 
[quote name='wnyx585am']ign says they haven't even gotten a developer's version of the vita that has an hdmi out due to availability and cost. This is why their reviews are of someone filming a vita screen. That's pretty pathetic that sony won't get better equipment to reviewers so their product looks better in review videos, etc. But that's sony marketing for you.

So it sounds like video out is not a huge priority for sony and the vita any time soon...[/quote]

beyond!

Thanks OP. Grabbed a copy.
 
[quote name='needler420']Anyone that tells you no is a noob. You need to know what went down in shadow moses even before playing snake eater you should know this. Skipping one you''ll also miss out on the famous toture scene that many of us had to get turbo controllers to unlock the bandana. The stealth camo was easy to unlock.

I been playing and beating the first MGS since I'm about 10 years old.

I skipped out on the NES titles till I was older. Which was only because I didn't start gaming till age 5 with Genesis, N64, PS1.[/QUOTE]
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[quote name='silver001']This is a perfect example of a guy you should not pay attention to.

You don't need to know what went down in mgs 1 because there enough cutscenes w/flashbacks to fill you in.

I know when I played mgs2 first in 2005, I never did not play the first one.[/QUOTE]

I kind of agree with this guy. I actually think I like 2 a lot more than I would have if I started them sequentially. That said, it is worth playing 1, but I can't stand crappy 3D so I would hunt down The Twin Snakes and play it on the GCN or Wii. 2 Also has the novel in it and there is also a digital graphic novel on PSN that could get you up to date if you want background, but don't want to play 1 due to some kind of limitation.

As far as this game goes, even lacking the two buttons the controls for the most part work really well. The touch screen does a great job of compensating for a lack of two of the buttons.
 
[quote name='silver001']This is a perfect example of a guy you should not pay attention to.

You don't need to know what went down in mgs 1 because there enough cutscenes w/flashbacks to fill you in.

I know when I played mgs2 first in 2005, I never did not play the first one.[/QUOTE]


LMAO you realize the MGS franchise is the most in detail with the story.
?

Telling someone it's ok to skip games in this franchise is like telling them they can watch the last LOTR movies return of the king without having had seen the first two LOTR movies and the reference would catch the up. Just no no no.

MGS is the last game you want to skip on to sequels. Most of MGS4 is cut scenes vs gameplay. This isn't god of war or uncharted where a noob can start at part 3 and be ok.

This is a series where the story connects through all the games unlike any other games.
 
[quote name='needler420']LMAO you realize the MGS franchise is the most in detail with the story.
?

Telling someone it's ok to skip games in this franchise is like telling them they can watch the last LOTR movies return of the king without having had seen the first two LOTR movies and the reference would catch the up. Just no no no.

MGS is the last game you want to skip on to sequels. Most of MGS4 is cut scenes vs gameplay. This isn't god of war or uncharted where a noob can start at part 3 and be ok.

This is a series where the story connects through all the games unlike any other games.[/QUOTE]

Hard to be an elitist when you use watching LOTR in your analogy for understanding a series as a whole instead of reading the books...

Were you even alive when that album on your avatar came out?

On Topic:

I've never played MGS and was wondering about how the game actually plays before I purchase this:

1. Is the gameplay just a vehicle for the story or does it stand on its own?

2. Has the gameplay aged well?
 
[quote name='Jackpot06']Hard to be an elitist when you use watching LOTR in your analogy for understanding a series as a whole instead of reading the books...

Were you even alive when that album on your avatar came out?

On Topic:

I've never played MGS and was wondering about how the game actually plays before I purchase this:

1. Is the gameplay just a vehicle for the story or does it stand on its own?

2. Has the gameplay aged well?[/QUOTE]

I was born the same year Nirvana released their first album. Bleach 89 in June-July I forgot which. I only remember because I was born the same year. I know more about the band then the average person probably does. I could name pretty much every song of theirs while only listening to the first few seconds. Same with their songs pre-Nirvana when their band was called fecal matter.

And everything about MGS aged well. The only people that will question that is the same type of people that question black and white movies and they ask if it aged well. Did Citizen kane, Raging bull, Schindler's List age well?
 
[quote name='Jackpot06']1. Is the gameplay just a vehicle for the story or does it stand on its own?

2. Has the gameplay aged well?[/QUOTE]

The gameplay in MGS2 is great. If you love stealth games, you should like it. The story in MGS2 is fukcing HORRIBLE. Seriously, it's terrible, but the gameplay makes up for it.

MGS3 on the other hand has the perfect balance of gameplay and story. It's, in my opinion, one of the greatest games ever made. The gameplay is true stealth with survival mechanics thrown in. It also has a wealth of weapons and gadgets to have fun with. Also, the story is engaging, the characters are unforgettable, and is as close to perfect as a game can get.

Check some videos online to see if it's for you.
 
[quote name='specialist']The gameplay in MGS2 is great. If you love stealth games, you should like it. The story in MGS2 is fukcing HORRIBLE. Seriously, it's terrible, but the gameplay makes up for it.

MGS3 on the other hand has the perfect balance of gameplay and story. It's, in my opinion, one of the greatest games ever made. The gameplay is true stealth with survival mechanics thrown in. It also has a wealth of weapons and gadgets to have fun with. Also, the story is engaging, the characters are unforgettable, and is as close to perfect as a game can get.

Check some videos online to see if it's for you.[/QUOTE]
This is exactly how I felt. 3 was such a perfect balance of awesome set piece battles, stealth, story and WTF moments that it'll always be near the top of my greatest games list.
 
[quote name='anotherpoorgamer']Let's say you own both a 3DS and a Vita. Only concerned about Metal Gear Solid 3. Which version would you consider?[/QUOTE]
The vita version is better graphic quality, the 3DS has a third dimension. So take which ever thing you prefer.
 
[quote name='Jackpot06']'ve never played MGS and was wondering about how the game actually plays before I purchase this:

1. Is the gameplay just a vehicle for the story or does it stand on its own?

2. Has the gameplay aged well?[/QUOTE]

Kojima is often criticized for going overboard with the story elements of MGS games. He initially wanted to be a movie directory and often lifts inspiration directly from films.

IMHO the gameplay has held up very well due to high production values. I don't think many stealth games have managed top its gameplay, perhaps with the exception of the Thief games.
 
[quote name='anotherpoorgamer']Let's say you own both a 3DS and a Vita. Only concerned about Metal Gear Solid 3. Which version would you consider?[/QUOTE]3DS version is a terrible port, lots of framerate issues. The only redeeming quality is that it has a crouch walk option, but there's no reason to play it over the vita port.
 
[quote name='needler420']LMAO you realize the MGS franchise is the most in detail with the story.
?

Telling someone it's ok to skip games in this franchise is like telling them they can watch the last LOTR movies return of the king without having had seen the first two LOTR movies and the reference would catch the up. Just no no no.

MGS is the last game you want to skip on to sequels. Most of MGS4 is cut scenes vs gameplay. This isn't god of war or uncharted where a noob can start at part 3 and be ok.

This is a series where the story connects through all the games unlike any other games.[/QUOTE]

you seem to be misunderstanding something. Yes, mgs is about the story, nobody will dispute that, BUT you don't NEED to know the history of the first game to get into the 2nd and third. Also LOTRO is far different than MGS and like someone said, if you need to compared it to LOTRO you already lost.
 
[quote name='silver001']you seem to be misunderstanding something. Yes, mgs is about the story, nobody will dispute that, BUT you don't NEED to know the history of the first game to get into the 2nd and third. Also LOTRO is far different than MGS and like someone said, if you need to compared it to LOTRO you already lost.[/QUOTE]


In that theory you don't need to know the history of any book, movie, comic book, video game etc. to jump into the most current.

My point is with games like MGS and books like LOTR and the movies that they aren't best when skipped. They are highly regarded for their stories so it's not like you can tell people who are new to them that any time is a good jumping on point.

If you're talking about killzone3, resistance 3, Uncharted 3, God of war 3, Gears of war 3 and all that crap then I would say it doesn't matter if you played the previous games. That is not something you can say with the MGS series.

You're literally taking one of the most notable games know for their story and telling people it's ok to jump into the sequels.
 
I really wish this included an hd copy of the first game. It'd be nice to play all 3 with a more updated look. Favorite franchise right behind the nintendogs series.
 
[quote name='LawLessChaoz']Is it important that I play MGS for PS1 before I play these?[/QUOTE]
yes it is. i highly recommend playing it. one of my favorite games
 
Is MGS: Digital Graphic Novel on the PSN Store? I feel like breezing through that for the story and jumping right into MGS2.
 
[quote name='Woocls']The vita version is better graphic quality, the 3DS has a third dimension. So take which ever thing you prefer.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='specialist']Vita hands down.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='excellen']3DS version is a terrible port, lots of framerate issues. The only redeeming quality is that it has a crouch walk option, but there's no reason to play it over the vita port.[/QUOTE]


Well looks like I'm leaning towards the Vita version since the PS2 version of Subsistence is my current console version.


[quote name='Kendro']Is MGS: Digital Graphic Novel on the PSN Store? I feel like breezing through that for the story and jumping right into MGS2.[/QUOTE]

Yes, it is like $7.99 or something like that.
 
[quote name='Kendro']Is MGS: Digital Graphic Novel on the PSN Store? I feel like breezing through that for the story and jumping right into MGS2.[/QUOTE]
It's also available on YouTube...! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IduNvuKx3fY

Personally, I played through MGS1 just this year for the first time and am halfway through MGS2, and I think it is worth a playthrough. Just my two cents!
 
[quote name='MechaGojira']Personally, I played through MGS1 just this year for the first time and am halfway through MGS2, and I think it is worth a playthrough. Just my two cents![/QUOTE]

Played it and beat it on PS1 many years ago. I just forgot most of the story so I wanted a refresher.
 
I am in the camp that believes you should play MGS first. You don't absolutely have to, but I feel you will get the best appreciation possible for doing so.

I've just played a little of it so far on the Vita and MGS2 is fantastic.
 
[quote name='Yanksfan']I am in the camp that believes you should play MGS first. You don't absolutely have to, but I feel you will get the best appreciation possible for doing so.

I've just played a little of it so far on the Vita and MGS2 is fantastic.[/QUOTE]
The issue with skipping 1 is that the story on 2 is REALLY terrible if you don't understand 1. I actually think you'll get the most out of the games if you play them 3-1-2-4 (aka story chronologically) Sure parts of 3 will be a little weaker but that game is just so strong it won't matter because it'll strengthen the rest of the games. Gameplay wise 1 is very rough around the edges but still worth a play through or 3.
 
I'm thinking about buying it on 360 just for Peace Walker, I already have MGS2&3. Hell for $20, I'd love to go through MGS3 again even though I bought it twice before, but I never owned Peace Walker so its a good deal to me. My only question is the buttons, It'd be weird with out the type of buttons like on the PS2/3 versions of those two games.
 
[quote name='Woocls']The issue with skipping 1 is that the story on 2 is REALLY terrible if you don't understand 1. I actually think you'll get the most out of the games if you play them 3-1-2-4 (aka story chronologically) Sure parts of 3 will be a little weaker but that game is just so strong it won't matter because it'll strengthen the rest of the games. Gameplay wise 1 is very rough around the edges but still worth a play through or 3.[/QUOTE]

The thing is that if you play MGS3 first, it will spoil previous games a lot, especially MGS1. MGS3 has a lot of gameplay mechanics.
 
Alright, I'm going to throw in a crap load of spoilers to explain why I think MGS1 isn't a necessary play to enjoy 2 & 3. Keep in mind this is my own two cents. and again... *SPOILERS*

Most people in the USA started playing Metal Gear around MGS1. That means they haven't touched Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 (almost no one in America even played MG2). The things that happened in Zanzibar are pretty important, as well as the importance of Big Boss. MGS1 did a great job of filling you in through the codec and the cut scenes so you didn't have to know what happened in the minefield in Zanzibar or any of the previous backstory.

Introduce MGS2. It's pretty common knowledge now that Solid Snake is NOT the main character. The only thing I think is important about MGS1 that new players to the series will not catch is the reference to the bosses to MGS1 [which happens near the end. Yes that reference includes the cyborg ninja too]. That reference will be tied to the explanation in the end that ties the whole story together.
The important things to know in this story are explained in the first part of the game. Solid Snake is a hero. He has a twin brother. Their father is a legend. Metal Gear is a weapon. Snake beat it before.

With that in mind, you start the game with a whole new character. That's where the game messes with your mind. If you played MGS1 before, once you switched characters, you're playing this game with a new set of eyes. If you're new to the game, that's perfect. Because like the main character, you have no idea what's going on, and you believe snake is a legendary hero. The only times when MGS1 gets directly referenced is in the end, but if you have been paying attention to the story, you don't need to know all the details, minus a little reference about the bosses.

In MGS3, the game can stand on its own because it is the first game chronologically. You play as Big Boss, the antagonist in Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2. You will be playing as him, so you will presume him as the good guy. For me, I feel MGS1 isn't important to play, but MGS 2 is a wonderful supplement to this game. If you play MGS2, then you will approach this game with a more open mind. That ending in MGS2 will make you wonder what the hell happened? So you go back in time to dive deeper into the story. Why did big boss become bad? Who are the Philosophers?

The only game in the series where I feel playing through all the Metal Gear Solids is MGS4, but that's not included in the collection, so I'll skip out on that.
 
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