CAGcast #307: The Real Geek Squad

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[preview][IMG-L=5838]15060[/IMG-L]Cheapy loses his kerryoky money, Wombat's daughter says hello, and Shipwreck supplies a Wii U update.

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Wow talk about lucky the minute i refresh the page to go to bed theres a new podcast waiting for me. Can't wait to hear this one.
 
Daaaaaawwww, Sabrina is adorable.

LOL @ Cheapy's reaction to the karaoke scam. That was soooo good. XD
 
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Wombat needs to step his game up, or his daughter is gonna take his spot at the table! Breads done!
 
I don't know if it was just me, but when I downloaded this through iTunes, the podcast downloaded successfully, but I initially couldn't play it because it couldn't find the file. I ended up having to go to the download folder and manually point iTunes at the file (which was simply named "download.mp3", while I noticed some of the other episode files had more descriptive titles, maybe it has something to do with that?), but then it worked fine. Just a quick note!
 
Eh, still kinda wrong there was the same intention to release the original Skyrim DLC(s) at end of the Xbox exclusivity window , but that didn't happen because of Bethesda's ineptitude. There isn't any reason to believe they are going to pull off releasing it on time this time either.
 
[quote name='hoofrog']Ship, check out Little Inferno on Wii U eShop. I think you and Mrs. Ship will enjoy it.[/QUOTE]

I bought this based on a Game Informer recommendation in their podcast last week. I don't know about that "game". I played it for a while the other night and it almost put me in a coma.

I got to the point where I couldn't figure out any more combos and I still have a ways to go. I think I've only figured out 23 combos. So, I'm trying to decide if I keep working on it or find a cheat sheet on line. If I cheat, the game will probably be over in 20 minutes.
 
I haven't listened yet, but I did make Stack Soap purchase as a gift for my dad, so thanks for putting that image up. That is some damn nice packaging!
 
great cast fellas, classy as always. i was posting a question in the cagbag when i saw the new show!
 
Was refreshing to hear Cheapy not brush something off as "Oh well" and be genuinely upset at some gaming industry stupidity.

I also loved how Cheapy could understand Sabrina, because I couldn't :oops: that was adorable Wombat, great show.
 
Hello! Cheapy,

I am glad to hear that you are going to Hong Kong for vacation. I was born and raised in Hong Kong. Although I haven't visit Hong Kong for about 12 years, I missed my childhood there. The present Hong Kong might not be the British Colony Hong Kong. But I think it's a great place for vacation and shopping.

Can you talk about your trip in Hong Kong when you're back?
 
Guys, I loved this episode! Cheapy's investigavtive Car-O-Kay journalism, Shipwreck's Geek on the Street segment, and Wombat's adorable daughter were all great. Keep it up, and have a great Christmas/Hannukah!
 
Not sure why but I assumed the Karaoke app was real time. I think because Xbox movies work the same way. Once you start watching the clock is ticking.

Or maybe I'm just conditioned to expect whatever is the worst deal for the consumer.
 
$270 to hang your tv? Geeksquad?

Well next time try it yourself. Pretty easy home project. The whole experience is a short puzzle game with a few action sequences. :D

A few level holes drilled in the wall where studs are for the mount. Screw mount to wall. Maybe the cables through the wall thing scares you? Amazon makes a nice $50 kit for that that makes it pretty easy (Datacomm flat panel tv kit) and meets code. A $7 drywall saw cuts a hole in the wall pretty easy (much easier than a layman would think possible.) Before you hang the tv you put brackets on back with these things called screws. Lifting the tv to to hang it on the mount is the same as putting it on a tv stand.

Then you have YouTube etc for free hints on how to overcome any obstacles.
 
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[quote name='trip1eX']$270 to hang your tv? Geeksquad?

Well next time try it yourself. Pretty easy home project. The whole experience is a short puzzle game with a few action sequences. :D

A few level holes drilled in the wall where studs are for the mount. Screw mount to wall. Maybe the cables through the wall thing scares you? Amazon makes a nice $50 kit for that that makes it pretty easy (Datacomm flat panel tv kit) and meets code. A $7 drywall saw cuts a hole in the wall pretty easy (much easier than a layman would think possible.) Before you hang the tv you put brackets on back with these things called screws. Lifting the tv to to hang it on the mount is the same as putting it on a tv stand.

Then you have YouTube etc for free hints on how to overcome any obstacles.[/QUOTE]

It took them less than two hours. I'm perfectly fine paying $270 for a quick and painless experience.
 
Miiverse is interesting. It is for Nintendo's demographic. But say you're a host of a popular gaming podcast and have a bunch of followers. You get a Wii U. And attract followers there. You go to play SMB Wii U. And ....you have CAG messages all over SMB Wii U. Hints on finding the star coins. Spoilers. etc. Pictures. Balls. Shafts. etc. Don't want it? click a button on the touchscreen and it all goes away. Click the button again and its back. Want to see spoilers? You can click that setting on/off too.

Or the reverse. YOu leave messages in a lot of places and your followers get a kick out of seeing the videogame podcast hosts' notes of what he thought or hints he has etc.

I think what it would have over Twitter is location location location. The stuff is right there. In the game.

And the messages in a game like SMB can be fresh because you have the option to leave them right then and there after you finish every level.

Of course this is a dream of sorts because not positive you can control what messages you see and your friend limit is only 100. This is where they should be more like Twitter. Follow certain people to get their comments. Or set up a group like CAGs to see only CAG messages. And then vote up/down messages.

AS it is I don't use it though. I didn't have anything to say about every level in SMB Wii U. And no one my kids know or I know has a Wii U. lol.
 
Amazing how quickly i went from on-board with Cheapy, to outraged with Cheapy over the Karaoke thing. I'm fine with it working in real time while you're in the app, but there should be extremely explicit language if there is no way to store purchased time while outside of the app.
 
[quote name='shipwreck']It took them less than two hours. I'm perfectly fine paying $270 for a quick and painless experience.[/QUOTE]

Please tell me you pay for a lawn service and a maid.
 
Completly forgot about stack soap until today. Picked up a pack for my husbands stocking stuffer. Thanks guys! Here's hoping it make it to Alaska before Christmas!
 
[quote name='trip1eX']Saw some headline that German law is responsible for restrictions on "mature" content in Europe Nintendo e-shop.[/QUOTE]

That's right.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-12-10-nintendo-explains-crazy-wii-u-eshop-restrictions

“At Nintendo we always aim to provide a safe gaming experience for fans of all ages and ensure that we comply with applicable legal age restriction requirements across Europe,” a Nintendo spokesperson told Eurogamer.

“Legal age restriction requirements vary across a number of European countries. Since Nintendo of Europe is based in Germany, Nintendo eShop is complying with German youth protection regulation which therefore applies to all our European markets. Under German law, content rated 18+ must be made available only at night.

“Therefore the accessibility of 18+ content in Nintendo eShop is limited to [USK: 22:00 UTC until 4:00 UTC] [PEGI: 23:00 UTC until 3:00 UTC].”
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[quote name='trip1eX']Please tell me you pay for a lawn service and a maid.[/QUOTE]

I'm fairly sure I've said that I pay for lawn service and cleaning service on the CAGcast before.
 
This episode was the best in a while. There was nothing special to make it different, but there were just more great moments for funny lines. From the question of a Kurt Cobain hologram to Wombat's clarification on labor laws, the moments just kept rolling along.
 
A quick note on the subject of Goozex's demise and Cheapy's assessment that "If Goozex couldn't do it, no one can".

I've used Goozex for 5 years or so (hundreds of trades) and I've seen it go from a viable trading platform beneficial for everyone involved (profitable for operators, money saving for users), to a complete disaster due to mismanagement and neglect in the last year and a half.

I can't say what was going on behind the scenes (though you can read all about the financial history here: http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=8961452 ), but from a user perspective I've seen an almost fanatically dedicated user base (including myself) get disappointed and pushed away time and again by vague announcements of progress and what appear to be outright fabrications of improvements "in the works". Goozex missed every self-imposed deadline they set for their users for the past year. Customer service while never fast became almost non-existent in the last 6 months.

There are no games to be had outside of junk no one wants and the remaining active users appear to be insane / delusional (I’ve had no luck reasoning with them). The queues for current generation games are hundreds of users long while 1 game a quarter is traded (I'm near the front of many of these queues). New users have NO CHANCE of receiving anything of interest if they trade out a new game for some Goozex cash after they're duped by the Goozex front page promises. I was a huge advocate of Goozex in the past, but it's to a point where I'd feel guilty receiving anything from a new user who doesn't know what he's gotten himself into.

Goozex squandered the good will of their dedicated users. That's what killed Goozex. The newly minted competitors (99Gamers.com and VGFive.com) are off to a running start. Cheapy may be right that there's not a lot of money in it, but I think there's a good chance this model could stay profitable with the right management team as long as physical media is around... because there a lot of Cheap Ass Gamers who want to play a lot of games, but don't want to pay $60 for them all.
 
Glad to hear that Arrow is still pleasing Wombat and Cheapy. It's really a guilty pleasure show. In no way is that show actually great but it's cool to see DC villains and heroes making brief appearances each week.

I know people are ragging on Shipwreck for paying to have his TV mounted but if I could afford to do it I'd rather put the handling of expensive electronics in the hands of professionals too. My biggest gripe with Best Buy's "service" is that you're paying triple the price for the mount itself but other than that, I'd love to have that taken care of for me. It's the same reason people hire movers or take their cars to get oil changes. No one wants to do that stuff if you don't have to.

[quote name='thorbahn3']Fun Fact: the limited commercial interruption guy from hulu also plays Lee in The Walking Dead: The Game.[/QUOTE]

That's hilarious. I never would have put those two voices together.
 
That Karaoke segment was hilarious. You should cut that conversation and paste it on YouTube, Cheapy. I have a feeling a lot of people don't know that's how it works.


Also - man, Shipwreck must be loaded. I would never pay Geek Squad to set up a TV for me.
 
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I can't believe anyone would think the Karoke thing was not real time. Every time I saw an article it never said it would not be in real time. It is a rental plan why would it be different than the movies they have been selling for 5-6 years?
 
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[quote name='spid']I can't believe anyone would think the Karoke thing was not real time. Every time I saw an article it never said it would not be in real time. It is a rental plan why would it be different than the movies they have been selling for 5-6 years?[/QUOTE]

I never saw an article that said it would be real time. I think the assumption that it would be like renting time in a Karaoke bar, not like renting a movie. Having 24 hours to watch a 2 hour movie with finite viewing time is in no comparable to playing a Karaoke game. Especially with the pay model they created. Why would anyone buy 24 hours of realtime when you just buy the 2 hours you will need. I have never seen a movie rental service with a rent by the hour plan.
 
[quote name='Wombat']I never saw an article that said it would be real time. I think the assumption that it would be like renting time in a Karaoke bar, not like renting a movie. Having 24 hours to watch a 2 hour movie with finite viewing time is in no comparable to playing a Karaoke game. Especially with the pay model they created. Why would anyone buy 24 hours of realtime when you just buy the 2 hours you will need. I have never seen a movie rental service with a rent by the hour plan.[/QUOTE]

I imagine the only reason to offer 24 hours of Karaoke is to make money on unsuspecting purchasers. But at the same time, I think it's unrealistic to think that the program would operate on game time. If that were the case, everyone would just buy 24 hours (since it's the best value) and play sparingly for a few weeks and never return to the game again. At the very least the game should be straightforward with how the renting process works, I will agree with that.
 
[quote name='Wombat']I never saw an article that said it would be real time. I think the assumption that it would be like renting time in a Karaoke bar, not like renting a movie. Having 24 hours to watch a 2 hour movie with finite viewing time is in no comparable to playing a Karaoke game. Especially with the pay model they created. Why would anyone buy 24 hours of realtime when you just buy the 2 hours you will need. I have never seen a movie rental service with a rent by the hour plan.[/QUOTE]

The same reason you would buy 2 hours is the same reason you would buy 24 hours. You are having people over for that amount of time and want to have Karokee available to them during that time frame. This is especially true during the holiday season.

The rental model works the same way across movies and PPVs. If you are going to make an assumption you don't make the assumption that is the complete opposite of everything else that goes on in the service. You make the assumption it is going to follow the consecutive hour model like everything else.
 
Lol, well, I got owned. But I'm fine with that, since I was mentioned! Although I would respond to your response with saying that "would like to" doesn't mean it will. But, yeah, I got told.

(Don't have anything to say about this episode yet since I've been busy and only just started it, but I just had to comment since I was mentioned. May edit later with an actual comment.)
 
[quote name='spid']The same reason you would buy 2 hours is the same reason you would buy 24 hours. You are having people over for that amount of time and want to have Karokee available to them during that time frame. This is especially true during the holiday season.

The rental model works the same way across movies and PPVs. If you are going to make an assumption you don't make the assumption that is the complete opposite of everything else that goes on in the service. You make the assumption it is going to follow the consecutive hour model like everything else.[/QUOTE]

But the movie rental/ ppv model is so vastly different. There is no reason to compare them to this game service. A monthly mmo service is more similar. you are paying for game time, not a rental of a movie. Maybe if you were renting a song, you would have a point, but you are not. You are buying time, movie rental services do not work that way.
 
[quote name='Wombat']But the movie rental/ ppv model is so vastly different. There is no reason to compare them to this game service. A monthly mmo service is more similar. you are paying for game time, not a rental of a movie. Maybe if you were renting a song, you would have a point, but you are not. You are buying time, movie rental services do not work that way.[/QUOTE]

But you are not buying time your renting access to the channel so it is treated just like any other rental on the service. To assume this rental is different from anything else on the service is the fault of the user not Microsoft.
 
I'll probably get shit but a pet peeve is kids on podcasts. You can never understand them as well as the parent and it just grinds everything to a halt.

I say this as a parent of two and a podcaster for the last 6 years.
 
Regarding one-sided sports games: there was a high school in my district that was a "special" school for kids with disabilities such as kids that were deaf. They had a football team that we played every year, it was the one guaranteed win of the year where the coach would have to yell at our team to play soft so that the deaf team at least didn't go home crying.

The way they knew when a play started was with a signal light at the sideline, the problem of course being that our team could see the light as well which made shutting down all their plays trivial. They also had a female quarterback that spent most of the game on her back.

The best part was we had a rutty natural grass field and the game against them usually occurred on a rainy day making for a lot of getting knocked and slid around in the mud. We ran over 100 points one year, good times.
 
This week's CAGcast ruined my once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to join the mile-high club. I was sitting next to an extremely hot girl on the plane while listening to the CAGcast (a man has to have his priorities), and when Cheapy started getting pissed at karaoke, I nearly lost it and couldn't stop giggling.

Cheapy, you owe me one after what you just cost me.
 
Cheapy's "Dude, it's bullshit!!!" deserves to be high on the list in the best of 2012....waaayy to funny! Cheapy just coming back on mic with that was made it priceless!

Ironic that the engineer had a tv/mount installed. Also has a maid...a landscaper...nothing cheap about that gamer! I'm jeleous!! :)
 
The funniest thing I heard from the show was Cheapy's reaction to his 10 hours of karaoke being gone. I don't think I've ever heard him curse as much as he did then. I almost crashed my car I was laughing so hard!
 
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