[Mr. Las Vegas]

Thought I start a new topic since the old one got locked.

 

I've got a XBone Day One Edition pre-ordered, and will probably keep it provided I can afford it by then, which all depends upon when the PS4 is going to be released as well.

 

I am not looking forward to Kinect 2.0 as being part of the system as I try to avoid motion controls as much as possible.  I'm just one whom prefers regular gaming, even though I do have a Wii and WiiU, mostly for Nintendo releases.  I just hope motion control is not forced into games, but rather optional.

 

I was really looking forward to FORZA 5, but yesterday's news on Kotaku that not all of the content is on the disc and you must download content by signing in first makes me a bit leery after the DRM fiasco.  not sure if this Turn 10 not being able to get out thee complete content on disc or some way of bringing back the online requirement but in a different form.  Either way it does not sound good.

 

I was also looking into getting Ryse and Dead Rising 3 at launch.  Ryse looks like my type of game.  Always loved those gladiator type games - Shadow of Rome, Colosseum, Spartan Total Warrior and Gladius.

 

I  don't play online much so I don't know if Titanfall would be for me.

 

Most of the other games are mostly multi-platform releases which I can hold out for.

 

What games are you looking forward to at launch?

[Trakan]

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Report posts that don't follow the rules.

[Viva Las Vegas]

I'm curious about the content in Forza 5. Has Turn 10 announced the number of tracks and cars? How many in multiplayer? 

[NinjaPenguin777]

I'm curious about the content in Forza 5. Has Turn 10 announced the number of tracks and cars? How many in multiplayer? 

 

I don;t know if they have but there is a day one required DLC. Its' going to be free but apparently you have to get it

[Mr. Las Vegas]

Here is a video that was posted in the other thread.  I am curious as to whether the FORZA footage is actual gameplay:

 

http://www.youtube.c...player_embedded

[highoffcoffee496]

Considering how intense the previous thread always was, I wonder what finally got it shut down

[EdgeCrusher36]

I'm just glad I have the money to buy both systems.  I'd hate to think of my blood pressure if I got ramped up as some of the people in the old thread did.  Must suck to spend so much time, wasting away hating and posting about something you don't have to buy

 

I do look forward to my Day One console though. 

[AvengedBacklog]

Reading the last posts of the other thread and I have to say it baffles me how people are okay with the Forza news.  I understand day one patches and updates, but the fact of a $60 disc being unusable at launch without a download is just not a good direction for gaming to go in at all.  

[dmaul1114]

As I said, it's not something I necessarily like.  Game's should work day one with no updates or not go out.

 

Just not something I'd get bent out of shape about since I'll never live somewhere without broadband and my internet has never been out for more than a few hours at any of the places I've lived over the past 5+ years.  Live in dense areas in big cities and shit gets fixed quick as thousands of customers are effected even if it's a problem only affecting a few blocks.  My building has 300 some units in it itself, and there are several other 20-30 story condos on the surrounding blocks so phone, power, internet problems get fixed very quickly here.  And are pretty rare as the bulk of utility lines are underground.

 

 

As for the thread, I'll own up to reporting that for the rampant name calling it had devolved into and suggested it be closed (so we could start fresh) or renamed something like "X1 vs PS4" and moving it to General Gaming.  All good discussion was getting lost in fighting between a couple of people trolling the X1 rather than posting worthwhile comments and a couple of people being too heated in defending the X1 at every turn.

Hopefully this thread can stay more on topic and have meaningful discussion about things like Day 1 required patches/dlc etc. rather than console war, juvenile BS.

[Mr. Las Vegas]

As I said, it's not something I necessarily like.  Game's should work day one with no updates or not go out.

 

Just not something I'd get bent out of shape about since I'll never live somewhere without broadband and my internet has never been out for more than a few hours at any of the places I've lived over the past 5+ years.  Live in dense areas in big cities and shit gets fixed quick as thousands of customers are effected even if it's a problem only affecting a few blocks.  My building has 300 some units in it itself, and there are several other 20-30 story condos on the surrounding blocks so phone, power, internet problems get fixed very quickly here.  And are pretty rare as the bulk of utility lines are underground.

 

What I am leery about with the Day 1 required patch is that I know at one point I may have to remove the game from the HD to make room for another game, and if I eventually come back to it at a later date and time, the content or servers themselves may no longer be accessible if the game or console is no longer supported.  

 

The other potential issue I see is a release day debacle like that with SimCity where the servers get bogged down and it is near impossible to download the content.  Either way I just don't see this as being a win situation for the consumer.

 

Now if it was just extra DLC that was not necessarily required to play FORZA I would have no issue with it.  Many Collector Editions of games come with DLC anyways so its no big deal.  We already have that in place.  I just hope this is the exception and not the norm for XBone releases. 

[dmaul1114]

Those are good points.  The first is mostly moot to me as I don't replay games and sell them after beating them--but it could be an issue if I bought the game years later (as I do game behind the curve often).  That said, I doubt servers for game updates would go down until years after the X1 generation was over.  And I don't game that far behind the curve.  By a year or two into a new generation I've sold/traded my old gen machines and moved on.  But fair point for people who collect and do retro gaming etc.

 

The server point is definitely a more valid one.  As it would suck to get a new game and not be able to play it if the Live servers were down/overloaded.  But Live has been a pretty solid network over the years, so that's not something I'd worry a ton about.

 

But yeah, it's definitely something where I really don't see benefit to the consumer. It's not something I worry about, but definitely not beneficial.  Games should play right from the disc, and any patches, updates etc. should be optional to that.  If there are glitches the gamer may run into if it isn't patched, that's fine--and their loss for not updating.  But they should be able to buy a game disc and play it. I can agree with that, even if it's not something that upsets me since I think it would be unlikely for me to ever not be able to get the patch day 1.

[Ashane]

Regarding Forza (something I'm massively looking forward to..)...

 

Tracks far we know are in:

Prague

Laguna Seca

Indianapolis

Spa

 

Yeah that means modern indy cars.... a first for the series! 

 

We will hear more about Forza during Comic Con, since Dan is confirmed attendant to the event. Hopefully some new in game footage.

[TimboSliceGB]

I'm just glad I have the money to buy both systems.  I'd hate to think of my blood pressure if I got ramped up as some of the people in the old thread did.  Must suck to spend so much time, wasting away hating and posting about something you don't have to buy

 

I do look forward to my Day One console though. 

im buying both systems and my blood pressure is fine 

[Ryuukishi]

I'd really like to be fully on board with the Xbox One since I just vastly prefer the overall Xbox 360 experience to the PS3. The controller, the interface, the party system, friends list, gamerscore, avatars, I love all that stuff and want to continue with it. I'm not concerned about Kinect; I have one for 360 and I like it fine. All that said, I am concerned about what seems to be a focus on TV features rather than games (don't care one bit about watching television on my console) and the last-second reversals on DRM and always-online policy (I think they made the right choice to change those policies, but still, what are the consequences of rejiggering the whole idea of the console a few months before release?). The consensus also seems to be that the PS4 is a more powerful machine than the Xbone, but that was true this generation as well, and look how much difference it ended up making-- little to none outside a small handful of PS3 exclusives.

 

Meanwhile, Sony seems to have learned from their screwups last gen and is saying and doing all the right things to get me excited about their console. So I'm in wait-and-see mode. Neither console's launch lineup is exciting to me at all, and the games that have been announced that I am excited about like Final Fantasy XV and Dragon Age Inquisition are multiplatform and a long ways away anyway. I'll have something to think about games-wise whenever Sony gets around to announcing Uncharted 4 or Microsoft announces Gears of War 4.

[4thHorseman]

I'm pretty interested to see how Dead Rising 3 turns out. It looks like they may be going a more serious route (at least from what I've seen) and that's a bit of a turn off since I like the Japanese-ness of it.

 

But seriously. I want to see a new Crackdown and for it to be an actual good game. Still fun, but make it really GOOD this time too.

[dmaul1114]

It's really going to take new IPs to get me super excited about new consoles.  I'll likely keep my PS4 preorder just to have it day one and have an easier time of sticking to my goal of just buying one AAA game at a time and not building a backlog at all next gen.

 

But as much as I like series like Uncharted, Gears etc., all the big franchises are stale with 3+ games this generation.  The Last of Us is the first thing I've played in ages that's felt fresh and exciting to me.  Nothing innovative really either, just nice to play a great AAA game in a new setting, with new character instead of firing up another Gears or Uncharted.

 

As for X1, as I said repeatedly in the old thread, it's likely just not the console for me.  I played my 360 more up until 2012 when I got a PS3 while locked out of my Live account when it got hacked and migrated to Russia.  360 exclusives I cared about mostly dried up around that point (really just Gears 3 and Halo 4) as they focused more on Kinect and relying on 3rd party games.   So my PS3 has gotten a lot more play lately.

 

Add in that I hate motion controls (and thus don't want Kinect, or Kinect functionality put into regular games), was very off put by their DRM attempt as I sell every game I beat on Amazon to recoup some costs, don't care about the media features, want more variety in exclusives than shooters and racers primarily (and Sony is a better bet with better Japanese and indie developer support), and find $500 too much for a console ($400 for a PS3 is really pushing it) and I have a hard time seeing myself ever picking up an X1.  

 

Maybe after a couple of price drops if I'm finding myself needing more to play than I can find on PS4 and 3DS AND time has shown that most regular games don't require any Kinect gestures or voice commands. But the way my career and life is going, I don't see any uptick in gaming time/interest coming this generation.

 

And that's all I'll say about my purchase decision in this thread.  It's interesting to discuss why each of us is buying or not buying these consoles.  But no reason for more back and forth about it as we've all mostly made up our minds at this point at least on what to get first (or whether to wait and see for longer).

[tonyv4]

I loved my 360 and used it as my primary console but I just don't know about the Xbox one. Most of the games I want to play will be out for both platforms. The extra $100 cost keeps me from buying it at launch since it's not worth it for me. I don't care much about the kinect and motion gaming in general. The biggest thing that appeals to me is the controller though. I was never a big fan of the dualshock 3 while the 360 controller just felt natural to me. There are exclusives I want for each console so that's pretty much a moot point. I have both preordered at the moment but only plan on keeping one preorder. Just undecided as to which one at the moment. If the xbox one had a non-kinect version for say $399, that would probably make up my mind but since they don't I'm just undecided at the moment.

[WV Matsui]

I preordered

Ryse
Battlefield 4
Forza
Kinect Rivals

Still thinking about DR3. Dunno yet.

[spatenfloot]

Target will be giving $10 off preorders for a bunch of next gen games the week of 7/28 according to the ad thread.

[WV Matsui]

Target will be giving $10 off preorders for a bunch of next gen games the week of 7/28 according to the ad thread.

Nice! I will be switching from amazon then!

[spatenfloot]

Target will be giving $10 off preorders for a bunch of next gen games the week of 7/28 according to the ad thread.

Oops, I read it incorrectly. You get $10 off a select game for preorders. I'm sure someone will have some kind of deal though.

[Ashane]

http://www.ign.com/a...tails-clarified

 

"Turn 10's Dan Greenawalt told us today that being required to connect to Xbox Live before you can play is "not the plan." You just need to connect online eventually in order to complete the career mode."

[Danimal]

 

 

But seriously. I want to see a new Crackdown and for it to be an actual good game. Still fun, but make it really GOOD this time too.

They're making that right now, for this gen: Saint's Row 4.

 

I'd actually love another Crackdown, too, but it would need to be more like the first one.  Loved the original, but Crackdown 2, not so much.

[Erad30]

Project Spark to be free, but also not really a video game:

 

Project Spark will be free-to-play

Microsoft’s game creation and sharing toolset, Project Spark, will be distributed for free.

 

Producer David Sapienza revealed the lack-of-pricing to Siliconera at San Diego Comic Con.

The developer noted that there will be a “free pack” containing “hundreds” of objects – everything included in the initial video demonstration – which does rather imply there will be premium packs as well, although this is unconfirmed.

Downloading games created by other users will also be free.

Announced at E3 2013 for Xbox One release, Project Spark is currently taking beta sign-ups.

 

-only thing I hate about this is I never have time/energy for these LBP type games. I hope we see some awesome stuff on it.

[David Hibiki]

Pre-Ordered through Amazon, lots of games I'm looking forward.

 

Call of Duty: Ghosts: Call be me crazy baby! Maybe?! But after year after year of the same engine I am looking forward to the new graphics and dynamics. I never got into Battlefield so I'm going to stick with COD.. Probably the only multi plat title I'm getting at launch.

 

Forza Motorsport 4: Outside of the day one giant DLC patch do we really have any doubts about Turn 10? They've made amazing game after amazing game. I haven't played much Forza since Forza 2 so I'm looking forward to this one. I'll admit due to the lack of racing games near launch It's the main reason I'm grabbing Forza 4. Was more hyped for a supposed PGR.

 

Ryse: Excuse me, do you know where can I find some QTE-ailors? Ha.The graphics and set piece look amazing. I have a feeling the anti-QTE comments are overblown and this will be a solid game.

 

Dead Rising 3: I bought Dead Rising 1 and enjoyed it a long time ago. I look foward to Cashcom milking me dry with this title.

 

Killer Instinct: Not sure what all the booing was about at EVO because this game looked top notch. I can't believe I'm saying this but: I have a lot of faith in Double Helix pulling this off.

 

 

Future titles:

Crimson Dragon: Well unless you hate Panzer Dragoon, this should be on your radar.

D4: From the creators of Deadly Premition. Exclusive to XB1. Nuff said.

Halo: Is this a spin off? Halo 5? Whatever it is, It's Halo.

Quantum Break: From the makers of Max Payne and Alan Wake. Again... nuff said.

Sunset Overdrive: The amazing lap dance ability of Insomniac will be put to the test. I look forward to this game, but I'll definitely be waiting on the reviews before buying.

Titanfall: COD with Mechs. Sign me up.

 

Multiplatform titles on the watch: Kingdom Hearts 3, Witcher 3, Destiny, Dragon Age, Cyber Punk, Minecraft XB1 Edition, Project Spark, The Crew, The Evil Within, MGS 5, Mirror's Edge 2, The Division. Plenty of reason to look forward to next gen.

[chubbyninja1319]

All in all, I'm not too crazy about any of the launch games other than Killer Instinct.  Every time I see footage or I hear "CCCCCCCCOMBO" I get weak in the knees.  Other than that, I guess Ryse interests me a bit, but it looks like an <$30 purchase for this cheap ass. 

 

As for multi-platform, ACIV is looking okay and I expect Battlefield 4 to be pretty good, although I'm not into military shooters.  The big games for me hit in Spring '14 with PvZ Garden Warfare and probably Titanfall.  Then, in Q4 '14 with Dragon Age.  DA:I will be the system seller for me if I don't have an X1 by then. 

[Mako1215]

Watch Dogs, and KI is all I care about right now. Also Sunset Overdrive.

[kcobra22]

I'm pretty interested to see how Dead Rising 3 turns out. It looks like they may be going a more serious route (at least from what I've seen) and that's a bit of a turn off since I like the Japanese-ness of it.

 

IGN actually just put up a good article about it:

http://www.ign.com/a...mazing-features

 

Some of the features have been mentioned before, but alot of people didn't know about. Like the fact that there's no loading times, or syncing your phone to the in-game phone so that when your character receives a call, you answer it with your real phone.

[gotdott]

 

pretty cool thing to add to a fighting game

[WV Matsui]

IGN actually just put up a good article about it:
http://www.ign.com/a...mazing-features

Some of the features have been mentioned before, but alot of people didn't know about. Like the fact that there's no loading times, or syncing your phone to the in-game phone so that when your character receives a call, you answer it with your real phone.

Man that article gets me hyped. I may have to preorder DR3 now!