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#751 NinjaPenguin777   LEO CAGiversary!   5852 Posts   Joined 13.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 10:37 PM

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#752 WV Matsui  

Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:04 PM

Yeah, I'm bummed about the PS4 release date. If MS was going to beat Sony and launch first, they definitely wouldn't be keeping that quiet right now.

They were baiting Sony just like they did to them at E3

Bet you will have release date by the end of the week or at the latest Sept 1. I will be shocked if it is later than 11/8.

This is MS's chance to get the last laugh and it will.


Edit: looks like gamesradar agrees - http://www.gamesrada...xt-gen-mistake/

#753 Erad30   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2320 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:08 PM

I don't think one console getting released earlier in the same month will sway sales. No one is going to go well gee I have to wait a little while to get console X so I'll just get Y one because it's out first. A year headstart made a difference a week or two one way or the other will not.



#754 Trakan  

Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:19 PM

They were baiting Sony just like they did to them at E3.

 

Baited Sony on what at E3?



#755 Richard Kain   The Kaiser CAGiversary!   2625 Posts   Joined 11.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:22 PM

They were baiting Sony just like they did to them at E3 Bet you will have release date by the end of the week or at the latest Sept 1. I will be shocked if it is later than 11/8. This is MS's chance to get the last laugh and it will.

 

If they are able to launch the XBox One sometime in September, than they might be able to pull off some manner of sales advantage for 2013. (at least in the U.S.) Anything later than that isn't going to make any significant difference. If it launches anytime in November there will essentially be no difference. A two-week lead time will mean nothing. You need a full month minimum in order to get any real momentum.

 

And as I've already pointed out, the one important factor for sales in the U.S. is to arrive before Black Friday. The XBox One will likely sell out of whatever stock they are able to supply, just due to initial production constraints. (and the excitement surrounding new hardware) But what will really be significant to Microsoft's bottom-line will be the extras and peripherals. And the best time to push those is Black Friday. Tapping into that shopping frenzy is crucial for moving the real mark-up items for a new console.

 

That said, the XBox One arriving before Black Friday is almost a foregone conclusion. If Microsoft thought there was any chance they would miss that window, they would just push the system's launch back to March of 2014. (so that it would come out in the next fiscal year) If it wasn't landing before BF, we would have heard about it already.



#756 Erad30   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2320 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:25 PM

Well clearly their master plan all along was to announce horrendous policies to make public opinion very low and then reverse them to make themselves look like heroes.



#757 Central Scrutinizer   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   199 Posts   Joined 8.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:35 PM

Some good stuff today.  Definitely on board for the $20 version of Killer Instinct, and Crimson Dragon in the launch window, too?  Woohoo!  This launch crushes that of the 360 and PS3 both.  Not sold on the Ryse hype, though....will wait for near or post-launch reviews before making a final decision.  It LOOKS good, but not sure if that's enough.



#758 Central Scrutinizer   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   199 Posts   Joined 8.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:38 PM

Also, I think November 15 is a great day for a launch.  Sony fanboys and Xbox fanboys can stand in line together, holding hands and singing "kumbayah".  Share punch and pie.  It'll be swell, guys.



#759 WV Matsui  

Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:38 PM

Just like Sony baited them. Sorry I wasn't fucking clear. Easy ladies.

#760 Erad30   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2320 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:42 PM

Also, I think November 15 is a great day for a launch.  Sony fanboys and Xbox fanboys can stand in line together, holding hands and singing "kumbayah".  Share punch and pie.  It'll be swell, guys.

Nah it'll be gang fight, but like a west side story gang fight...

 



#761 kcobra22  

Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:43 PM

I don't think one console getting released earlier in the same month will sway sales. No one is going to go well gee I have to wait a little while to get console X so I'll just get Y one because it's out first. A year headstart made a difference a week or two one way or the other will not.

 

It does make a difference. If Xbox One comes out on the 5th, it has a headstart on getting positive reviews, getting youtube lets plays (which are big this gen) and any word of mouth. Kids/teens will start asking for Xbox One if they see how much fun their fav. youtuber is having playing Dead Rising 3. 

 

Obviously sony "fanboys", or people that are excited and already paid off their ps4 aren't gonna change their minds, but the people that will be asking for one of these consoles for christmas, could change their mind. Especially if it releases on the 5th because alot of people might upgrade and tell their friends to get xbox one with COD



#762 TimboSliceGB   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5985 Posts   Joined 7.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:51 PM

this thing is now in ms court if they were smart they would put xbox one out the same day as ghost on 5th or some time that week or heck even the same week as the other guy. 



#763 TimboSliceGB   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5985 Posts   Joined 7.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:52 PM

Also, I think November 15 is a great day for a launch.  Sony fanboys and Xbox fanboys can stand in line together, holding hands and singing "kumbayah".  Share punch and pie.  It'll be swell, guys.

this would be great if it happend police in every city would be needed at launch events. I would not care i got my xbox one from amazon the local news would be interesting.  :bouncy:



#764 Erad30   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2320 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:54 PM

Who are these imaginary people? The people who are paying $400-$500 for a console+ games and accessories is not going to be the parents of kids/teens, it's going to be the hardcore gamers. When they hit a more mass market price ($300 would be my guess) that's when the more casual families will come in and buy one. Hell according to most analysts consoles will have really stiff competition this round because they are going up against things like tablets and smart phones which are cheaper and portable with incredibly cheap games. Console gaming in general may go back to being more of a hobbyist thing if they are right.



#765 Erad30   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2320 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:55 PM

this would be great if it happend police in every city would be needed at launch events. I would not care i got my xbox one from amazon the local news would be interesting.  :bouncy:

It may be necessary, I worked the PS3 launch at a Best Buy and one guy got straight up robbed of his in the parking lot, don't remember if they caught the guy or not.



#766 Trakan  

Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:58 PM

Just like Sony baited them. Sorry I wasn't fucking clear. Easy ladies.

 

I see what you meant now.  I didn't think you were that delusional.  How did Sony bait MS though?  With the price?  They didn't magically change the price in the few hours there were in between conferences.



#767 WV Matsui  

Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:59 PM

Who are these imaginary people? The people who are paying $400-$500 for a console+ games and accessories is not going to be the parents of kids/teens, it's going to be the hardcore gamers. When they hit a more mass market price ($300 would be my guess) that's when the more casual families will come in and buy one. Hell according to most analysts consoles will have really stiff competition this round because they are going up against things like tablets and smart phones which are cheaper and portable with incredibly cheap games. Console gaming in general may go back to being more of a hobbyist thing if they are right.


This is laughable. You have things flipped. Yeah hardcore will adopt early but the non-core is where the money is at.

#768 Mako1215   Mr.OneOfWonder Banned   7273 Posts   Joined 11.5 Years Ago  

Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:04 AM

I doubt parents are going to buy their kids a $500 or $400 console when the 360 and PS3 are both $199 at the moment. Hell, the Wii U is $350 and that is more kid friendly. Also, if little timmy sees his favorite youtuber do a lets play on Dead Rising 3 in November and asks for a Xbox One, he's going to be SOL anyways because both consoles will most likely be sold out/hard to find just like the 360 and PS3 were at launch.


You really underestimate some parents. If the kid wants a XB1, and they can get one for them on a bday or Christmas they will buy it.

#769 Erad30   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2320 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:05 AM

How do I have things flipped at all? I'm am saying the large majority of people buying this holiday season are early adopters, the core gamers, which is exactly what you are saying. I'm also saying that they are facing stiff competition in the face of smart phones and tablets, which is what pretty much every guy whose job it is to predict sales trends is saying. Yes the casual families are where the big money is at, and guess what, they aren't spending upwards of $600 or more for a console.



#770 Erad30   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2320 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:08 AM

You really underestimate some parents. If the kid wants a XB1, and they can get one for them on a bday or Christmas they will buy it.

Some yes but not the majority who don't have a unlimited budget. Hell Ashane was the one saying families spend about $800 on christmas, no way you'll see them blowing well over half that on one gift.



#771 Central Scrutinizer   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   199 Posts   Joined 8.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:10 AM

The thing is, when the old man sees the Xbox One ads during NFL Football broadcasts, and sees how he can use it during football games to track his team's stats....that may lead to quite a few kids being stoked to find XBOs under their trees this holiday.



#772 TimboSliceGB   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5985 Posts   Joined 7.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:10 AM

Who are these imaginary people? The people who are paying $400-$500 for a console+ games and accessories is not going to be the parents of kids/teens, it's going to be the hardcore gamers. When they hit a more mass market price ($300 would be my guess) that's when the more casual families will come in and buy one. Hell according to most analysts consoles will have really stiff competition this round because they are going up against things like tablets and smart phones which are cheaper and portable with incredibly cheap games. Console gaming in general may go back to being more of a hobbyist thing if they are right.

so you think the same parents that spend 700 dollers on ipads and other things for their kids will not spend 500 + for a gaming system when they see that their kids that already have a 360 want the xbox one. lol dude this is not the 90's anymore



#773 TimboSliceGB   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5985 Posts   Joined 7.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:11 AM

The thing is, when the old man sees the Xbox One ads during NFL Football broadcasts, and sees how he can use it during football games to track his team's stats....that may lead to quite a few kids being stoked to find XBOs under their trees this holiday.

they are also calling 360 offical system of the nfl on a ad i seen during monday night football last night. 



#774 Erad30   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2320 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:18 AM

so you think the same parents that spend 700 dollers on ipads and other things for their kids will not spend 500 + for a gaming system when they see that their kids that already have a 360 want the xbox one. lol dude this is not the 90's anymore

Tablets & phones have become this essential ingrained part of everyday life in a way consoles have not. You can take a tablet pretty much anywhere and use it for tons of different things anywhere. Can't do that with a console that sits at home. Kids get tablets for college. It's harder to sell parents on something that is strictly an entertainment device. Not too mention yes there are $700 tablets/phones out there, there are also a ton of cheaper options.



#775 Central Scrutinizer   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   199 Posts   Joined 8.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:20 AM

Yep.  The XBO is the official "entertainment computing device" of the NFL, and Surface is the official tablet computing device.

 

Expect to see ads for both plastered all over stadiums, sidelines, and of course during commercial breaks.

 

They really aren't milking it hard enough, though.  Some of us are dumb enough to spend more money on a console that matches team colors...



#776 Central Scrutinizer   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   199 Posts   Joined 8.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:21 AM

Yeah, if I was a old man I would definitely spend $500 on a video game console so I can track my favorite team's stats. I mean I wouldn't be able to do that on my tv that I'm watching the game on or my computer. That's for sure.

 

I've seen people spend the same amount of money on a smartphone for the same reason.



#777 TimboSliceGB   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5985 Posts   Joined 7.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:27 AM

Tablets & phones have become this essential ingrained part of everyday life in a way consoles have not. You can take a tablet pretty much anywhere and use it for tons of different things anywhere. Can't do that with a console that sits at home. Kids get tablets for college. It's harder to sell parents on something that is strictly an entertainment device. Not too mention yes there are $700 tablets/phones out there, there are also a ton of cheaper options.

you would be shocked on the amount of money parents spend in my electronics section at work during xmas lol. yes economy might be poo poo but people go hog wild come holidays and i can tell you both systems will be hard to find for a month or two.



#778 Erad30   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2320 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:28 AM

Right but I already brought that up-A smartphone is a powerful portable device that goes with you and serves multiple practical functions. A device that is purely entertainment and is chained to your TV isn't going to be nearly as attractive a proposition. That's been part of the problem with a lot of these next-gen social and streaming features. The consoles and devices we already own can do most of the stuff we care about, why am I paying $400-$500 more for stuff I can already do? Now as a gamer, I can justify buying one because it'll be where the new games are at, but people who are more casual gamers or not big gamers at all already have devices that cover all this stuff.



#779 Blaster man  

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:29 AM

so you think the same parents that spend 700 dollers on ipads and other things for their kids will not spend 500 + for a gaming system when they see that their kids that already have a 360 want the xbox one. lol dude this is not the 90's anymore

I don't think the kids that got a $700 iPad are interested in an Xbox One or a PS4....



#780 TimboSliceGB   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5985 Posts   Joined 7.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:31 AM

I don't think the kids that got a $700 iPad are interested in an Xbox One or a PS4....

lol why just because a kid got that don't mean their parents are rich lol alot of parents go into debt because they think they need to spoil their kids