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CAGcast #336: Fine Feathered Friends

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#31 louiedog   20 minutes into the future CAGiversary!   5646 Posts   Joined 11.1 Years Ago  

Posted 12 September 2013 - 10:37 PM

I haven't played Gone Home yet, though I really want to. I didn't take last week's comments to reveal any spoilers. After people complained I started to question that though. I'm sure it's still not a big deal, but sometimes alerting people to a spoiler after the damage is done can be worse.

 

I would like a Volgarr code.



#32 CheapyD   Head Cheap Ass Administrators   17634 Posts   Joined 15.2 Years Ago  

Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:19 PM

I can't believe what I just heard you guys say. First you say that you buy everything out there just so you guys can talk about on the podcast, such as the Nvidia Shield and Shipwreck even stating he would buy the PS Vita TV day one just to talk about it on the podcast. But when asked if any of you will buy GTA V, it's all no's across the board. What the hell?! The biggest gaming release of this year, this generation even, and none of you is buying the game. Literally everybody will be discussing that game and will want to know your opinions on it, but you guys aren't even going to bother with it.

 

Is it just me, or does it sound absolutely bat shit insane for a video game podcast not to discuss the biggest video game of the year?

BatShip insane, you mean?



#33 metallicoholic   Metal 'Til I'm 60 CAGiversary!   1218 Posts   Joined 11.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 02:17 AM

The PS Vita that Wombat described--a portable video game system that can plug into your TV and be used essentially as a Roku--sounds like something I might be interested in. As it stands, the PS Vita TV's lack of a screen keeps me from even considering it. I don't see any reason to purchase a portable console only to have it limited to play on a TV at home. 

 

I think you guys kind of touched on why the Vita is struggling with success when you talked about having to buy not only the system but a memory card and a game as well. Most consumers have no need for two portable systems, so to put the Vita up against the 3DS, the 3DS is a much easier purchase to make. Cheapy has said before that there should be a Vita/PS4 bundle and I think that's absolutely how to salvage the Vita at this point. Sending a message that anyone that buys a PS4 can use the Vita to stream games in their bedroom/bathroom would really entice people that are usually on their phones gaming during this time. 



#34 ceck3969   Kung Fu is Strong CAGiversary!   558 Posts   Joined 10.4 Years Ago  

Posted 13 September 2013 - 02:18 AM

Great show guys!  Not sure why your PC love gets so much flak? Games such as Saints 4, Far Cry3, etc play better as well as look better on the PC, and the cost of entry is low these days for a decent gaming rig. Most of the friends my kids have play games on PC rather than a console, and my oldest is 11.  My 8yr old daughter and 6 yr old son love playing Rouge Legacy and Rayman Legends downstairs at the computer, while the wife and I make dinner or watch TV.  Win win if you ask me. PCs are in alot of homes, and a $150 mid range video card is sometimes easier to swallow than having to share a TV for a console.  So keep it up you elitist PC whores!



#35 bickle   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   780 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

Posted 13 September 2013 - 03:16 AM

You can't compare screens like that. There are so many factors which make screens look weird in those type of comparisons. The best way is to see it in person.

 

Yes, I know. That's why I said that people who have seen it in person are saying that the OLED screen looks nicer.



#36 TheAggroCraig   Hummus! CAGiversary!   1430 Posts   Joined 11.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 04:32 AM

I like how Wombat hates indie games yet bought the Bit Trip collection.



#37 Jackovasaurus   And ya say Chi-City CAGiversary!   1409 Posts   Joined 9.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 04:43 AM

Pretty much the same sentiment was held by the guys on Giant Bombcast. I know people are excited for GTA, but meh...been there 4 other times. Plus Cheapy is going to play it on the PC.


Did you listen to the latest Bombcast? They're all getting GTA. Also, its not coming to PC. Couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic about that.

#38 4nik8tor   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   205 Posts   Joined 13.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:17 AM

Everything makes more sense, now that I know Wombat is a 'chocolate' man.



#39 Thevoiceinyourhead   UKCAG CAGiversary!   85 Posts   Joined 9.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 01:29 PM

I enjoyed the Beetlejuice reference Cheapy!

 

Great show as usual.

 

Just noticed its my 5 year CAGiversary today  :bouncy:



#40 toddacoco40   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   24 Posts   Joined 9.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 01:36 PM

Please help me find Volgarr the Viking in my future.
Great show this week. Wombats feathery balls were the laugh of the show.
I would love a code if there is one left.

#41 dacool561   Take a Look at This CAGiversary!   250 Posts   Joined 11.5 Years Ago  

Posted 13 September 2013 - 01:40 PM

I guess i'm a 10 y/o kid but am I the only one who was laughing when Cheapy kept saying he could really cream guys now?  :rofl:



#42 louiedog   20 minutes into the future CAGiversary!   5646 Posts   Joined 11.1 Years Ago  

Posted 13 September 2013 - 01:48 PM

RE: VitaTV

 

Who's it for? Guys like me I guess. I don't want to carry a Vita with me on the train and I'm not really interested in playing its games outside of my home anyway. I don't want to sit in my living room and play games on a tiny screen. 

 

I've been a PS+ member since before they added the Vita to the program. I have a library of games that I cannot play. For $100 I can play most of these games that I have access to in a more comfortable way. It also gives me the ability to add Netflix to another TV and, if I get a PS4, a way to leave it hooked up to my living room TV and still play it when my girlfriend is watching something. My PS3 is currently connected to my PC monitor because there was something she didn't want to wait to watch on TV and I was playing a game that I didn't want to wait on either.

 

My only real issue is the ridiculous storage prices. Even after the recent drop they're priced way too high. Let me use that USB port for storage and I'm sold.



#43 Walt Jay   Gamerscore Whore CAGiversary!   1471 Posts   Joined 12.8 Years Ago  

Posted 13 September 2013 - 02:44 PM

I guess i'm a 10 y/o kid but am I the only one who was laughing when Cheapy kept saying he could really cream guys now?  :rofl:

 

I was surprised Wombat didn't pounce on that comment.  He was probably still laughing at his feathered leather pouch.  ;)

 

Also, I'd like a Volgarr code, if there are any left. 

 

Thanks!



#44 trip1eX   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1597 Posts   Joined 13.4 Years Ago  

Posted 13 September 2013 - 02:46 PM

Maybe the Vita has been so unsuccessful that Sony felt they could reuse the brand name on a video streaming product and no one notice.



#45 codenamelenny   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   200 Posts   Joined 9.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 03:35 PM

PCPCPCPCPCPC. I don't think there is too much PC talk, Cheapy and Shipwreck need to buy Wombat a good gaming PC so they can all talk about PC gaming even more!

 

I think the reason some people, myself included, aren't too excited for GTAV is because of Saints Row. Saints Row 4 just came out and that series is what you want out of an open world game.



#46 soliddragon   Early Adopter CAGiversary!   1087 Posts   Joined 13.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 03:44 PM

Good show this week guys. Hook me up with the Volgarr the Viking plz! Diablo 3 ftw!



#47 arimajinn   CAG in Training CAGiversary!   12 Posts   Joined 5.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:28 PM

I love the fact that cheapy is talking so much PC gaming now and I have been a listener of the CAGcast for some years now   :D  I would like to throw my hat in the ring for Volgarr the Viking code 



#48 Gregalor   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5172 Posts   Joined 13.1 Years Ago  

Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:39 PM

PCPCPCPCPCPC. I don't think there is too much PC talk, Cheapy and Shipwreck need to buy Wombat a good gaming PC so they can all talk about PC gaming even more!

 

I think the reason some people, myself included, aren't too excited for GTAV is because of Saints Row. Saints Row 4 just came out and that series is what you want out of an open world game.

 

If some CAGs threw in 5 bucks each, I'll bet we could have a PC for Wombat (made this century, even!) within a couple of hours.



#49 guardian_owl   Keeper of the CAG Shrine CAGiversary!   11131 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 07:08 PM

By my math, that gives you another way to play the PS4 you have, not a second PS4.

 

That's splitting hairs, I would imagine most people who own more than one PS3 have them in the same household, in different rooms, not in two-different households (say a home and a dorm). It gives you the ability to play the PS4 in one room, and if that room is occupied, move into a different room and play PS4 games.

 

If the PS4 is being used as a PS4 and it can't stream to the Vita TV at the moment (or can the PS4 pull double duty and stream and function at the same time?), then that's what the Vita cart slots are for as well as the crackle and netflix streaming. I find it funny that people are criticizing Sony for putting a physical card slot in the Vita TV when they got SOOO much shit for the PSP GO being download only. The physical card slot also ensures it can be used as a system independent from the rest of the playstation infrastructure, even if you get the best value from combining it with the PS4.

 

Also, for those who subscribe to PS+ and don't have a vita, that could be incentive enough to pick-up a Vita TV as a method to play that backlog of free games (half of the price of a vita with other secondary features, you likely have an extra DS3 already to pair with it), that is one of the reasons I finally picked up a PSP.

 

Does the Vita TV come with a remote? If so I would imagine it would get placed with the roku boxes and blu-ray players as well.

 

I am interested in the Volgarr code.



#50 GeorgeCostanza   Hangin Tough CAGiversary!   1487 Posts   Joined 12.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 09:02 PM

I enjoyed the Beetlejuice reference Cheapy!

 

Oh what was that?  I skip through some of the show, usually at the beginning when they are talking about "nothing".  I know it sounds like an ass statement but the beginning of their show is like watching ship, wombat and cheapy at the coffee shop pouring over the excruciating minutiae of every single daily event.  This summer their opening bits were much longer due to the lack of games.  So I look forward to the fall.

 

Oh back to the reason I posted.  EL GUAPO!  Thanks wombat, love all your subtle humor.



#51 mwmike11   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   76 Posts   Joined 6.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 04:39 AM

Great show as usual, fellas. I gotta say, though, Ship...you're wrong, there's nothing wrong with Wild Berry Skittles. On the other side of the coin, Wombat, you're not 100% right about Duck Tales being awful. I didn't have a problem with it, though I did think it was a little too short for $15. I had no problem with the mouths not moving, just chalked it up to that art style. I don't recall whether I've actually played the original enough to compare this to the original, since I think I was 2 when it came out for NES. Still, of the two remakes that came out in the last two weeks, I think Castle of Illusion might be the superior.

 

Cheapy and Shipwreck, give Diablo III on consoles a shot. Haven't had a chance to play them on PC, but now I don't feel the need to after hearing how it is much better than the original edition. The controls work, the graphics look fine (granted, I'm not really a graphics snob, so I'm a poor judge of that), and the story is...well, it's still a Diablo story, so what can you expect.

 

Glad to hear I'm not the only one that's really not that interested in GTA V. Sure, it looks decent, but not enough to get me to rush out and buy it. Same thing with next-gen consoles. Neither of them have anything coming that make me excited to rush out and preorder. There are no games coming for it that do anything for me one way or another. I'm more excited for games still coming this gen, like Fable Anniversary.

 

Always a pleasure hearing you guys every week. Keep them coming!



#52 Jackovasaurus   And ya say Chi-City CAGiversary!   1409 Posts   Joined 9.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 04:43 AM

The worst part of this episode was the PC complaint from show feedback. I can't think of a single game podcast out there that doesn't mention the PC when it comes to multiplatform games. It's been a long ass console gen, of course the PC is going to be mentioned! It's the best version for every single mulitiplatform game for the last three years! Get the hell over it.



#53 KillerRamen   OMG Lilac PSP! CAGiversary!   3649 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 14 September 2013 - 01:03 PM

I don't think the Chrome Cast is what you think it is. It cannot be used for gaming. It might work for web-browser games, but you are not going to be using it to play anything off Steam or play World of Warcraft on your TV. That's what I thought it was when they first announced it, but I was sadly mistaken. The Chrome Cast can stream stuff off of your Chrome Browser and that's pretty much the extent of it. It can run its own apps too like Netflix. 

 

I've also looked into a wireless HDMI option, but right now those things are freaking expensive (more so than the Vita TV). The one at monoprice is $166. 

 

The reason why I think the Vita TV works is because it has more processing power than the Chrome Cast since the Vita TV is essentially a Vita without a screen. The power of the other machine (in this case the Playstation 4) is also important for streaming from one device to another. The Vita has a 2Gz quad-core CPU and 512 MB of RAM. The Chrome Cast and even the Apple TV and Roku do not have that kind of power. Heck, the Roku 3 can barely run Angry Birds. I mean it can,  just not very well because that's not what it was designed to do.,

 

I guess this device is for me because I am already pretty deep into the Playstation ecosystem and I have decided to get the Playstation 4 over the Xbox One due to all of Microsoft's ridiculousness. Playing the Playstation 4 in my office or in my kitchen without a second PS4 or moving a big console around the house is very appealing to me. I also have over 20 Vita/PSP games from my time in Playstation Plus, so it would be nice to actually be able to play them. One really big thing that appeals to me is that I love Valkyria Chronicles, so being able to play Valkyria Chronicles II on my TV with my Dual Shock just sounds awesome!

 

The Vita TV can also presumably run the streaming services from the PS4 that are not on the Vita, so that means I can watch MLB, NHL and WWE Pay Per Views using this thing. So yeah, while a $35 stick would be nice, it's probably not going to happen anytime soon. If Microsoft releases one for the Xbox One it will probably be $100 because such a device would probably have to have similar specs to the Vita or Nvidia Shield in order for it to work properly. 

 

(I think why something like the Wii U Game Pad works is because they're using their own band and not standard wifi. Which means it has a pretty limited range of about 25 feet. I don't think a similar approach would work for streaming onto a home network)

 

When this thing launches here (I assume it's going to launch in the US), I think that they are going to have to include a controller and keep the $100 price tag. I mean, it's not a huge deal for me since I have multiple DS3s, but I just think it's going to be awkward for the consumer. I mean, you can get them for pretty cheap now, but the MSRP is still $54.99.



#54 codenamelenny   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   200 Posts   Joined 9.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 03:38 PM

If some CAGs threw in 5 bucks each, I'll bet we could have a PC for Wombat (made this century, even!) within a couple of hours.

That's not a bad idea, I think it's been mentioned before. But I still feel like cheapy and shipwreck should chip in something.



#55 thrifty1   Delicious Deal Stacker CAGiversary!   204 Posts   Joined 5.4 Years Ago  

Posted 14 September 2013 - 03:49 PM

Agreed 100% on non-regular skittles.



#56 Royale   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   25 Posts   Joined 11.1 Years Ago  

Posted 14 September 2013 - 06:30 PM

I'm primarily a PC gamer and have been listening to the show since around episode 70 or so.  I went through years of listening to the crew talk down on PC gaming or just generally not caring about it so it's nice to hear some chat about it.  A game on a proper PC will always look better than it's console counterpart so if you have access to one (like Cheapy) that is usually going to be the best place to play it.  With so many great games out and most coming to PC, it's worth it to wait for a PC version instead of playing it on console.

 

Hopefully with the new consoles (I have a PS4 pre-ordered and own a PS3, Xbox and Wii), console graphics will again be brought up to PC quality.  After the PS4 launch, if a game is better played with a controller, I will likely buy it for the PS4... until PCs again move ahead of consoles in terms of graphical quality... then it will be back to playing on my PC with the xbox controller and the consoles will be played by the kids and be used for exclusives.

 

I enjoyed the comic con chat as well.  We just had our first comic con as well in Salt Lake City and I was on the team that helped organize it.  We had over 70,000 people attend on the final day alone with celebrities Stan Lee, Shatner, Adam West, Burt Ward and many many more help to drive that number of people.  I've been to a few other comic cons around the country and it's nice to see them spring up and flourish.

 

As always, thanks for the great show, keep up the good work and everything else.



#57 Gregalor   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5172 Posts   Joined 13.1 Years Ago  

Posted 14 September 2013 - 06:57 PM

I'm primarily a PC gamer and have been listening to the show since around episode 70 or so.  I went through years of listening to the crew talk down on PC gaming or just generally not caring about it so it's nice to hear some chat about it.

 

That's my stance on it. We had yeeeears of shit-talking and poo-poo-ing to listen to. I like how they've turned around on the subject, and hearing the new types of games that they're discovering for the first time. It's like re-living your favorite game by listening to someone who just played it for the first time.



#58 pureflux   CAG Newbie CAGiversary!   37 Posts   Joined 5.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 01:51 AM

Gentlemen:

 

This episode had we laughing so hard I almost got on a car accident on the freeway because my tears were blurring my vision. Thanks to Wombat's bleach, leather pouch and golf balls.

 

Again, thanks guys forr the laughs.



#59 Condor80   Let's Go Mets!!! CAGiversary!   4401 Posts   Joined 14.2 Years Ago  

Posted 16 September 2013 - 12:36 PM

Great show guys!  I don't think the PC talk is too much at all.  I may be biased though since I have a PC in my entertainment center and am about to build a gaming rig to play some of the latest games.  I'm going to be skipping the new generation for a few years, so I'll be playing everything on PC as well as taking on the backlog.  That said, I'm going to be very upset when you start talking about the new consoles since I won't have one.  All I hear is PS4 this and Xbox One that...  ;)

 

I'll take a Volgarr the Viking code if there are any left.



#60 Kazaganthi   Blue Rogue CAGiversary!   1947 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

Posted 16 September 2013 - 09:36 PM

Wombat should check out Kingdom Hearts 1.5 HD Collection. Goofy, Donald Duck, Tarzan, Jack Skellington, Ariel, Peter Pan, etc all have moving lips, mouths, and beaks!

 

Think I saw it hinted at in this thread about the Vita TV, but think about the future, all the way to the year 2000. One other reason for it to exist; 1 or 2 years after PS4 release there will be even more people paying for Playstation Plus because the non-free/non-subscription games will require PS+ for multiplayer. So those 5-30 "free" Vita games in their collection are unplayable because said gamer maybe doesn't care about handhelds and tiny screens. Give them a $100 option (they'll obviously already have old DS3 controllers and DS4 is said to be compatible later) and it can do other stuff, play Vita games while PS4 in use, and in any room of the house, that may up the adoption rate a bit.

 

Diablo 1 killed 2 of my mice, literally. Diablo 2 you could click and hold for auto attack but it still was a lot of clicking for other things.

 

Saw it mentioned in past thread but not brought up on the podcast: Jolly Ranchers, purple is good, yellow is bad/worst.

 

GTA hasn't been good since Vice City so I don't get the hype either.