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Cheapy D and his Xbox love


#1 solidusdeus   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   136 Posts   Joined 11.8 Years Ago  

solidusdeus

Posted 09 November 2013 - 01:09 AM

I'm probably going to get banned, but all of Cheapy's, Wombat's, and Shipwreck's (although not as bad) posts on twitter, FB, and here are all about Xbox one.  Since the day the consoles were announced.  I am getting both (I have both PS3 and Xbox 360), but it's kind of annoying since this is a gaming community and they're supposed to show some neutrality.  Otherwise this would be the CAG Xbox Forums.  Thoughts? or am i just overreacting?



#2 Feeding the Abscess   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3251 Posts   Joined 9.8 Years Ago  

Feeding the Abscess

Posted 09 November 2013 - 01:40 AM

They don't have to show any neutrality (though some level of neutrality is probably preferred, in order to reach the widest base possible). It's Cheapy's site, he can display whatever preferences he wants.

 

For what it's worth, I've heard Cheapy be critical of Xbox One on the podcast and praise the PS4. He was even dismissive of a (lack of) feature on the PS4, that it won't play MP3s. And he had just talked about how he likes to customize soundtracks in-game for things like NHL.



#3 Jodou   Infamous CAGiversary!   14192 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

Posted 09 November 2013 - 04:52 AM

I heard M$ paid him to make this site black and green.



#4 Feeding the Abscess   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3251 Posts   Joined 9.8 Years Ago  

Feeding the Abscess

Posted 09 November 2013 - 06:12 AM

I heard M$ paid him to make this site black and green.

It's too bad no group paid him to make it black and yellow.



#5 Snoop221   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   110 Posts   Joined 7.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 06:19 AM

Who gives a shit?



#6 Jodou   Infamous CAGiversary!   14192 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

Posted 09 November 2013 - 06:33 AM

It's too bad no group paid him to make it black and yellow.

LOL.

 



#7 Spokker   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2211 Posts   Joined 13.6 Years Ago  

Posted 09 November 2013 - 06:55 AM

Cheapy is betraying his country with his support of Xbox.

#8 solidusdeus   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   136 Posts   Joined 11.8 Years Ago  

solidusdeus

Posted 09 November 2013 - 05:13 PM

Cheapy is betraying his country with his support of Xbox.

LOL!



#9 ChunLiBarbie   Bloogablogglefliddlemliddle CAGiversary!   5539 Posts   Joined 8.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 08:39 PM

Lol, seeing as how there is still no Xbone section. Yet, there is PS4 mentioned(PS3 & PS4, but no Xbox 360 and Xbone).



#10 iamsmart   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1169 Posts   Joined 8.0 Years Ago  

Posted 10 November 2013 - 05:27 AM

I don't listen to the cagcast, but if the posts in those ever-so-lovable Twitter feeds on the home page are any indication, I think they are just trolling. They seem to relish the hate they've been generating on places like neogaf; I wouldn't really worry about it. Plus, Cheapy is bald... who would ever trust the opinion of a person without hair?



#11 GBAstar   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   9696 Posts   Joined 8.5 Years Ago  

Posted 10 November 2013 - 05:35 AM

If you've been around long enough or do your research you'll know this site certainly had a bias at one time or another... but then again so did the typical American consumer... until they got their heads out of their collective asses and now, based on the latest sales trends all is back to normal in the video game world



#12 Logain8955   Groovy Cactuar CAGiversary!   2383 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:05 AM

They're not journalists, they're enthusiasts. Huge difference.

 

They have no need to stay neutral.



#13 Rip44  

Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:43 AM

Thanks OP. That was the dumbest thing I read today! Nobody has to keep anything "neutral". If you like something, you post about it. Why would, or should, anyone post about shit they don't want?

#14 Ivanhoe   CagMaster CAGiversary!   1834 Posts   Joined 15.7 Years Ago  

Posted 11 November 2013 - 06:14 AM

Is this the reason why we have no dedicated PS4 forum??



#15 Thomas96   I am Thomaticus! CAGiversary!   6075 Posts   Joined 14.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 02:39 PM

I don't need Cheapy et al. to be neutral, just be honest that they prefer MS. They pretend to be completely unbiased when it's clear that they aren't.

#16 Richard Kain   The Kaiser CAGiversary!   2674 Posts   Joined 11.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 03:38 PM

They aren't obligated to be neutral in any way. They make no claims as to being impartial. I do think it would be wrong if they only posted deals for XBox products. But obviously that isn't the case. So long as the deals flow freely for every system, I have no problem with the CAG crew preferring whichever console they like. It's just a matter of personal preference.

 

If you can't deal with their personal leanings, don't follow their Twitter or listen to their podcast. No one is twisting your arm.



#17 thenutman69321  

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 04:21 PM

this is a gaming community and they're supposed to show some neutrality.

Why would they have any obligation to have any neutrality?  This is an online forum for video games deals not a news site, there is no reason anyone should be neutral about anything.  I don't agree with you that Cheapy comes off as heavily pro MS either but even if he did, so what.



#18 8bitArtist   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2292 Posts   Joined 9.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 06:51 PM

Is this the reason why we have no dedicated PS4 forum??

 

no, considering there isnt even a x1 forum at all.



#19 Richard Kain   The Kaiser CAGiversary!   2674 Posts   Joined 11.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 07:00 PM

but it's kind of annoying since this is a gaming community and they're supposed to show some neutrality.

 

Which gaming communities have you been frequenting? Console/platform wars were a common fixture among gaming fans before the internet was around. I remember debating the relative merits of Nintendo vs. Sega on elementary school playgrounds. Neutrality has never been a common trait for gaming communities.

 

The only way you're going to see a greater degree of neutrality for this sort of thing is if you see a general up-tick in disposable income for all the participants. The general economy being what it is, that isn't likely any time soon. The average age of game enthusiasts is steadily increasing, but most of us still can't afford all the platforms. So long as that's the case, there will always be those who clamor for the platform they opted to back. No one wants to admit that they made an inferior choice.

 

The sad fact is, at this juncture you can't make a wrong choice. The rampant competition in the industry has polished every platform to the point that they all have merit. You could throw a rock and pick up a gaming platform that you will be able to enjoy.

 

Freaks like me who intentionally acquire as many platforms as possible aren't plagued by which console is best. We're drowning in a sea of content.



#20 beetlegum   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   290 Posts   Joined 14.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 09:51 PM

They don't have to show any neutrality (though some level of neutrality is probably preferred, in order to reach the widest base possible). It's Cheapy's site, he can display whatever preferences he wants.

 

For what it's worth, I've heard Cheapy be critical of Xbox One on the podcast and praise the PS4. He was even dismissive of a (lack of) feature on the PS4, that it won't play MP3s. And he had just talked about how he likes to customize soundtracks in-game for things like NHL.

 

 

Gotta call BS on that one.  Cheapy pretty much glossed over the Xbox One's glaring criticisms during E3 basically saying he didnt see what the big deal was about always online and not being able to play used games.

 

Any praise for Sony is few and far between.  The Cagcast has a long history of being a Sony snob with the most recent being Ship trashing Beyond Two Souls and calling it an interactive movie.  Yet, Alan Wake was an interactive movie, and they just were all gaga over that game.  And even when you have a AAA Sony exclusive that every freaking reviewer gushed over like Last of US, the guys ended up trashing that title as well.  



#21 el swordo   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1734 Posts   Joined 10.9 Years Ago  

Posted 12 November 2013 - 10:56 PM

Gotta call BS on that one.  Cheapy pretty much glossed over the Xbox One's glaring criticisms during E3 basically saying he didnt see what the big deal was about always online and not being able to play used games.

 

Any praise for Sony is few and far between.  The Cagcast has a long history of being a Sony snob with the most recent being Ship trashing Beyond Two Souls and calling it an interactive movie.  Yet, Alan Wake was an interactive movie, and they just were all gaga over that game.  And even when you have a AAA Sony exclusive that every freaking reviewer gushed over like Last of US, the guys ended up trashing that title as well.  

Dude is rolling in the dough and lives in the country with one of the best internet connections in the world.  Both concerns really wouldn't concern him.   He doesn't have to show neutrality it's cheapassgamer not cnn.   And guess what not everybody likes everything.   I didn't particularly care for last of use either.  I would have rather have had uncharted 4 from naughty dog. 



#22 kill3r7   MiNd ThE GaP CAGiversary!   4634 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

Posted 12 November 2013 - 11:09 PM

CAG is a deal site/community. Thus, Cheapy does not need to be neutral. He is free to express his love/favoritism for M$, Sony or Nintendo. That said, to suggest that somehow his bias might affect the community is pretty ridiculous.  Frisky runs one of the best deal threads on CAG and as far as I know Cheapy does not impede him in any way shape or form nor does he block Playstation/Vita deals.

 

So feel free to take this discussion back to NeoGaf or some other shitty forum.



#23 Mana Knight   Cloud Strife CAGiversary!   14401 Posts   Joined 14.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 11:11 PM

I don't need Cheapy et al. to be neutral, just be honest that they prefer MS. They pretend to be completely unbiased when it's clear that they aren't.

So true....I am not surprised though



#24 KillerRamen   OMG Lilac PSP! CAGiversary!   3649 Posts   Joined 9.6 Years Ago  

Posted 12 November 2013 - 11:24 PM

Cheapy loves the Xbox... It's not that big of a deal, it's just based on his personal preferences. Shipwreck's Vita trolling on twitter annoys me more than anything.



#25 SolidSnake86   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1458 Posts   Joined 9.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:00 AM

I have no problem whatsoever with Cheapy liking the Xbox 360 more than the PS3 or expressing his love for it as the superior console. He has every right to be wrong. 



#26 beetlegum   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   290 Posts   Joined 14.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 02:52 PM

CAG is a deal site/community. Thus, Cheapy does not need to be neutral. He is free to express his love/favoritism for M$, Sony or Nintendo. That said, to suggest that somehow his bias might affect the community is pretty ridiculous.  Frisky runs one of the best deal threads on CAG and as far as I know Cheapy does not impede him in any way shape or form nor does he block Playstation/Vita deals.

 

So feel free to take this discussion back to NeoGaf or some other shitty forum.

 

He also hosts a very popular video game podcast.  I don't have a problem if the hosts all love the Xbox more than Sony.  But if you are going to discuss PS3 and games from an always negative bias commentary,  that is annoying for people who happen to like Sony and their exclusives.  Hell a lot of the time, they will completely ignore Sony exclusives.  I certainly don't recall anyone talking about Ni Nu Kuni this year, and it was a game that received high marks.  What about the Puppeteer? I seriously doubt they will even acknowledge a new Ratchet and Clank game this week.  Let's face it, Sony kicked Microsoft's ass this year when it comes to exclusives.

 

If you are going to have a section where you talk about ALL the new releases then I want a fair review of the games.



#27 kill3r7   MiNd ThE GaP CAGiversary!   4634 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

Posted 13 November 2013 - 03:08 PM

He also hosts a very popular video game podcast.  I don't have a problem if the hosts all love the Xbox more than Sony.  But if you are going to discuss PS3 and games from an always negative bias commentary,  that is annoying for people who happen to like Sony and their exclusives.  Hell a lot of the time, they will completely ignore Sony exclusives.  I certainly don't recall anyone talking about Ni Nu Kuni this year, and it was a game that received high marks.  What about the Puppeteer? I seriously doubt they will even acknowledge a new Ratchet and Clank game this week.  Let's face it, Sony kicked Microsoft's ass this year when it comes to exclusives.

 

If you are going to have a section where you talk about ALL the new releases then I want a fair review of the games.

Here's an idea...if you don't like it, don't listen to it.



#28 guardian_owl   Keeper of the CAG Shrine CAGiversary!   11152 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 03:24 PM

They didn't mention Ni No Kuni because of the 3 of them none of them particularly like JRPGs.



#29 el swordo   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1734 Posts   Joined 10.9 Years Ago  

Posted 13 November 2013 - 03:32 PM

Here's an idea...if you don't like it don't listen to it.

Or do and maybe you'll learn something rather than just making your own beliefs more entrenched.   Covering your ears and going la la la while somebody say's something negative about something you like isn't going to make that flaw go away.  Both consoles are virtually identical it just comes down to what games and interface you like better.   And microsoft knows how to develop a super pretty interface and has some kickass games.  And if he really hated something he wouldn't even own it right?   Pointing out stuff you don't like about something you own especially when there is a chance that somebody who can change it is listening isn't being a fanboy it's being smart.   I use a custom rom on my phone from xda.  If i find a bug and don't report it it may never get fixed.  If people just ignore the flaws of a product they will never get fixed.



#30 kill3r7   MiNd ThE GaP CAGiversary!   4634 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

Posted 13 November 2013 - 04:00 PM

Or do and maybe you'll learn something rather than just making your own beliefs more entrenched.   Covering your ears and going la la la while somebody say's something negative about something you like isn't going to make that flaw go away.  Both consoles are virtually identical it just comes down to what games and interface you like better.   And microsoft knows how to develop a super pretty interface and has some kickass games.  And if he really hated something he wouldn't even own it right?   Pointing out stuff you don't like about something you own especially when there is a chance that somebody who can change it is listening isn't being a fanboy it's being smart.   I use a custom rom on my phone from xda.  If i find a bug and don't report it it may never get fixed.  If people just ignore the flaws of a product they will never get fixed.

Wait... so you are begrudging them for having an opinion? You must never listen to sports talk radio or news/political radio. People have different beliefs and opinions. There is a vs thread on this site dealing with these very issue.