Bayonetta 2 (Wii U) $59.99 + $10 Gift Card @NEWEGG [Pre Order]

Am I the only one who suspects that the price on this game will fall like a rock shortly after it's on the shelves?
It will definitely drop fast. IIRC the first sold only around 1.5 million between two platforms with massive install bases. Now the sequel is on Wii U. Sales for this game, like all games on Wii U will be awful. Even Nintendo's own franchises don't sell well, no way this will.
 
being one of a few games worth buying for a system and being a system seller are two different things, this is not a system seller.
It's why I'm buying one. It's why my girlfriend is buying one. It's why a few of my friends are buying one. Buying a WiiU is the only way to to play it, as it is exclusive. It will drop eventually, I just don't think it will drop quickly.

 
It's why I'm buying one. It's why my girlfriend is buying one. It's why a few of my friends are buying one. Buying a WiiU is the only way to to play it, as it is exclusive. It will drop eventually, I just don't think it will drop quickly.
good, ill sell you my wii u then

 
This definitely isn't a system seller. Not sure how/when the price will drop. But I am pretty confident they will sell 250,000 - 500,000 copies total. It's not going to do too well.

 
Am I the only one who suspects that the price on this game will fall like a rock shortly after it's on the shelves?
I think it will as well, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it go multiplatform.

 
I think it will as well, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it go multiplatform.
It will NEVER go multi platform. Nintendo paid for this game to be made for them. They are publishing it. Why in God's name they picked this one to be an exclusive for their system ill never understand. I didn't think the first one was all that popular.
 
It will NEVER go multi platform. Nintendo paid for this game to be made for them. They are publishing it. Why in God's name they picked this one to be an exclusive for their system ill never understand. I didn't think the first one was all that popular.
Probably the curtail the standard gamers perception that Nintendo's games are all for kids. Which is likely the same reason they had all those Resident Evils on Gamecube. Too bad it won't change anything.

 
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Ill just get it when it hits -20 dollars just like every single platinum games hits.


Everything ive seen for it screams un-needed and inferior pointless sequel.
 
It will definitely drop fast. IIRC the first sold only around 1.5 million between two platforms with massive install bases. Now the sequel is on Wii U. Sales for this game, like all games on Wii U will be awful. Even Nintendo's own franchises don't sell well, no way this will.
NSMBU over 4 million sold. Super Mario 3D World over 2 million sold. Wii Party U, Zelda Windwaker and NSLU over 1 million sold.

I think it's fair to say Nintendo's franchises do sell well.

 
I think it will as well, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it go multiplatform.

It will NEVER go multi platform. Nintendo paid for this game to be made for them. They are publishing it. Why in God's name they picked this one to be an exclusive for their system ill never understand. I didn't think the first one was all that popular.

Says the guy playing Thief on something other than a PC... For better or worse, this game is never going multiplatform, so let that dream rest in peace.
Although chances are slim, I wouldn't rule it out completely. Sure it's published by Nintendo. When the sales finally slows to a craw on the Wii U, they may let Platium make it for other systems under a different name, like Bayonetta Sigma 2 for example, :lol: and get a little fee for every copy sold. Back in Ninja Gaiden 2 days, game was made by Team Ninja but was published by Microsoft as an 360 exclusive. 1.25 years later, boom it was on PS3 under Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 with tweaked gameplay.

 
Bayonetta 2 for Hardcore gamers on the Wii U... I'll wait for the hopefully ps3/ps4 edition.
Let me know how that works out for you...

And yes, there are core gamers on the Wii U. Hardcore games involve more than just realism and violence. DKC Tropical Freeze and Wonderful 101 are prime examples of that. In fact, speed running DKC is an artform that very few possess the skill to achieve. I invite you to come visit the OTHER side of gaming. The side that doesn't get popularized in every form of media. You can still play your realistic games too. It doesn't have to be one or the other.

 
This definitely isn't a system seller. Not sure how/when the price will drop. But I am pretty confident they will sell 250,000 - 500,000 copies total. It's not going to do too well.
Those would be incredible for Wii U sales. Given the puny install base I'd be impressed it it breaks 200,000.
 
NSMBU over 4 million sold. Super Mario 3D World over 2 million sold. Wii Party U, Zelda Windwaker and NSLU over 1 million sold.

I think it's fair to say Nintendo's franchises do sell well.
Exceptions to every rule. 1 million is a fail btw. NSMBU is a packin those "sales" are in name only. If these are your proof that bayonetta 2 will sell well then we shall see when it's out and I'll laugh. Just like with everything else.
 
The real system seller comes out May 30th, Mario Kart 8. It should increase the install base size quite a bit if the original Wii one selling 34 million is any indication. Then hopefully at least a tiny percentage of that install base will buy games like this, X, and other hardcore games so that other companies can realize the Wii U is worth supporting.

If people invested in Wii U they should also invest in the games they want new if they expect it to continue existing.

 
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Although chances are slim, I wouldn't rule it out completely. Sure it's published by Nintendo. When the sales finally slows to a craw on the Wii U, they may let Platium make it for other systems under a different name, like Bayonetta Sigma 2 for example, :lol: and get a little fee for every copy sold. Back in Ninja Gaiden 2 days, game was made by Team Ninja but was published by Microsoft as an 360 exclusive. 1.25 years later, boom it was on PS3 under Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 with tweaked gameplay.
Not gonna happen, to all those claiming this is gonna go multiplat at some point let me bring GoldenEye N64 to your attention. Nintendo wouldn't let it get released on XBLA over a decade later. 0% chance this goes anywhere but Wii U just buy it there.

 
Exceptions to every rule. 1 million is a fail btw. NSMBU is a packin those "sales" are in name only. If these are your proof that bayonetta 2 will sell well then we shall see when it's out and I'll laugh. Just like with everything else.
1st Party Nintendo titles are "ever green" titles. Unlike most games that get the bulk of their sales right at launch, Nintendo games keep selling ie Mario Kart Wii still selling over 1 million last year.

 
LOL I didn't know I was trolling. I just seriously don't know anyone that has a wii u. I know playstation/xbox people and I know wii people. Bayonetta 2 on Wii U just seems crazy, but I don't know. Thief on a system other than pc, lol? my computer at home is like 10 years old and im lucky if I can play titanquest/age of mythology. I havnt played games on computer cept minesweeper n oregon trail back in the day. I'm not good with technology unless it comes plug n play right outta the box i.e. consoles. I tried computers but I just get distracted with all the porn and etc.

I also love the people that say 100% sure this is only gonna be on Wii U. They said the same thing about Mass Effect 1, same thing with microsoft published game never gonna happen and no more heroes only on wii... those didn't last.

hydrophobia. lol

 
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If I had the money, this might be a system seller for me.  I'm all about console exclusives.  Now if Bayonetta 2 were to appear on PS3/360 that might discourage me. 

 
LOL I didn't know I was trolling. I just seriously don't know anyone that has a wii u. I know playstation/xbox people and I know wii people. Bayonetta 2 on Wii U just seems crazy, but I don't know. Thief on a system other than pc, lol? my computer at home is like 10 years old and im lucky if I can play titanquest/age of mythology. I havnt played games on computer cept minesweeper n oregon trail back in the day. I'm not good with technology unless it comes plug n play right outta the box i.e. consoles. I tried computers but I just get distracted with all the porn and etc.

I also love the people that say 100% sure this is only gonna be on Wii U. They said the same thing about Mass Effect 1, same thing with microsoft published game never gonna happen and no more heroes only on wii... those didn't last.

hydrophobia. lol
Totally different situation. Mass Effect was a 3rd party game. Bayonetta 2 would not exist without Nintendo at this time. Keep dreaming if you think this goes multi. It's going in the Nintendo vault if anything.
 
Those are horrible number for a game so called "Triple A" game to sell. No wonder Nintendo keeps bleeding out money every time they keep failing at selling games and hardware. Am more then sure they must have lost millions in making this game and have yet to breakeven on it. Oh and the Wii U still has another 3 month drought to endure...

 
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:/ doesn't matter what channel I'm watching.. I always encounter a ps4 or Xbox one commercial at least 2-3 times an hour. I see a Wii u commercial maybe once every 4 months and that's only if I'm watching nicktoons hardcore.
 
I also love the people that say 100% sure this is only gonna be on Wii U. They said the same thing about Mass Effect 1, same thing with microsoft published game never gonna happen and no more heroes only on wii... those didn't last.

hydrophobia. lol
Buying Bayonetta 2 The Director's Cut for ps3 or ps4. See u guys in 1-2 years. :wave:

 
Those are horrible number for a game so called "Triple A" game to sell. No wonder Nintendo keeps bleeding out money every time they keep failing at selling games and hardware. Am more then sure they must have lost millions in making this game and have yet to breakeven on it. Oh and the Wii U still has another 3 month drought to endure...
Ouch! It does seem like none of the games that were supposed to resurrect the Wii U have done that. Wonderful 101 is a great example, was hyped to the clouds as a killer title, but bombed with only 170k worldwide since its launch in August of 2013 (7 months ago). DK Tropical Freeze did a lot better, at 310k in just over two weeks, but I doubt it will break 1 million in its lifetime, at this rate. These games need to sell a lot better to be profitable, as of right now they don't even break even.

 
Ouch! It does seem like none of the games that were supposed to resurrect the Wii U have done that. Wonderful 101 is a great example, was hyped to the clouds as a killer title, but bombed with only 170k worldwide since its launch in August of 2013 (7 months ago). DK Tropical Freeze did a lot better, at 310k in just over two weeks, but I doubt it will break 1 million in its lifetime, at this rate. These games need to sell a lot better to be profitable, as of right now they don't even break even.
Like I said earlier let's wait until Mario kart 8 comes out. That should increase the install base dramatically. While it may be too late for Wonderful 101 I could see a lot of new owners buying DKC TF. If any game can help the Wii U it's Mario Kart 8, but if it can't the Wii U is nearly hopeless.

 
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Like I said earlier let's wait until Mario kart 8 comes out. That should increase the install base dramatically. While it may be too late for Wonderful 101 I could see a lot of new owners buying DKC TF. If any game can help the Wii U it's Mario Kart 8, but if it can't the Wii U is nearly hopeless.
MK8 will probably sell 1-2 million Wii U's. I wouldn't expect more than 2 million. MK8 sales will be good enough to earn a profit on that particular game since it's basically Nintendo's top game.

As for DKC, I doubt it will see a huge influx of sales. Some sales, sure. Tons of sales? No. The game is not the kind of game most people want. Most likely the people buying the Wii U for MK8 will be much more casual than the people that already own it. Even assuming that the people buying the Wii U for MK8 buy DKC at the same rate as the current install base, that's a 50% increase in install base so a 50% increase in sales or an extra 160k for a total of 500k.
 
You know, if they'd port Bayonetta 1, I'd be willing to look into this. But I don't think I'm willing to try 2 without playing 1. And as I understand it 1 plays like shit on PS3. So I guess I'm just skipping this one.

For what it's worth, I'd be very surprised if this sells well at all. I'd expect to see it at $30 or less within a few months at the least....

Ouch! It does seem like none of the games that were supposed to resurrect the Wii U have done that. Wonderful 101 is a great example, was hyped to the clouds as a killer title, but bombed with only 170k worldwide since its launch in August of 2013 (7 months ago). DK Tropical Freeze did a lot better, at 310k in just over two weeks, but I doubt it will break 1 million in its lifetime, at this rate. These games need to sell a lot better to be profitable, as of right now they don't even break even.
I think you grossly underestimate just how little money Nintendo pours into most of these games. While I don't want to speculate on W101 as I know nobody who worked on it, I can tell you that titles like Tropical Freeze and NSMBU cost VERY little money to make (compared to other games). The only reason Nintendo charges $60 for them is because fanboys will eat it up no matter what. But trust me, at $60 (or even $50) these games don't have to move very much to be profitable. And don't even get me started on Wind Waker's HD port....

Pikmin 3 is the only 1st party game on WiiU that's had a budget comparable to many other 3rd party AAA epics. Even that newest Mario game on WiiU was cranked out at a relatively cheap price.

Now I'm not saying Nintendo can afford to not sell games...... I'm just saying Nintendo is very cheap. They don't pour a lot of money into most of the games they develop, with few exceptions (Skyward Sword and Pikmin 3 being fairly recent examples).

 
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You know, if they'd port Bayonetta 1, I'd be willing to look into this. But I don't think I'm willing to try 2 without playing 1. And as I understand it 1 plays like shit on PS3. So I guess I'm just skipping this one.

For what it's worth, I'd be very surprised if this sells well at all. I'd expect to see it at $30 or less within a few months at the least....

I think you grossly underestimate just how little money Nintendo pours into most of these games. While I don't want to speculate on W101 as I know nobody who worked on it, I can tell you that titles like Tropical Freeze and NSMBU cost VERY little money to make (compared to other games). The only reason Nintendo charges $60 for them is because fanboys will eat it up no matter what. But trust me, at $60 (or even $50) these games don't have to move very much to be profitable. And don't even get me started on Wind Waker's HD port....

Pikmin 3 is the only 1st party game on WiiU that's had a budget comparable to many other 3rd party AAA epics. Even that newest Mario game on WiiU was cranked out at a relatively cheap price.

Now I'm not saying Nintendo can afford to not sell games...... I'm just saying Nintendo is very cheap. They don't pour a lot of money into most of the games they develop, with few exceptions (Skyward Sword and Pikmin 3 being fairly recent examples).
So we know that most companies need to sell 2 million to break even. Now that Nintendo is making HD games, I'm assuming break even at 1.5 million. Are you saying this is high. As I remember, they were having trouble with HD and needed to bring more people in for many of their games. Obviously a side scroller like DKC is cheaper to make but if they only sell 500k are they really turning a profit on it? Their financial statements have not been good. I read them.

I don't know how much Nintend's cut of each game is but I'd guess around $30 out of $60. 500k would only result in 15 million revenue and much less profit. I really don't think Nintendo considers games making a couple million in profits as "successful". I mean, look at their financials for their Q3 (Oct-Dec) and despite lots of Mario sales, they barely earned anything. If it wasn't for 3DS "printing money" they'd have had massive losses. The Wii U is not a profit center.

 
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Like I said earlier let's wait until Mario kart 8 comes out. That should increase the install base dramatically. While it may be too late for Wonderful 101 I could see a lot of new owners buying DKC TF. If any game can help the Wii U it's Mario Kart 8, but if it can't the Wii U is nearly hopeless.
The one two punch of Mario Kart 8 and Super Smash Bros could be helpful, but I think the Wii U's fate is nearly sealed. It will be another Game Cube. People will vilify it and Nintendo for its entire lifecycle, then look back at all the solid 1st party games in its history and it will be a sought after console on the secondary market.

There are enough great experiences on the device right now to justify a purchase, but they cost a premium and people see the games being thrown out for PS+ and GOLD each month. That's value that Nintendo just isn't trying to compete with right now.

I wish they would just give out a new Virtual Console game every week PS+ style. Stop being greedy about your deep historical catalog and start selling systems by using it as a subsidy.

There - I fixed your problem. Give me a job in the exec department of NoA :)

 
Why do people keep thinking MK8 is going to save the system?  I demoed it awhile back, it really felt like a rehash of MK7, but HDified and without the amazing 3D the 3DS version had.

People may like to talk shit about Mario Kart but the truth is every new entry in the series has added something.  Whether it be the 3D and 4 player mode of the N64 version, the fun/interesting new mechanics of Double Dash, the online and boss battles in the DS version (god I miss those boss battles  :cry: ), the amazing motion controls/bikes/tricks + GOOD online of Mario Kart Wii, or the air/sea mechanics of the 3DS version.  Every game has innovated in some way and been unique.

Mario Kart 8 isn't like that.  Granted I demoes it a long time ago, so maybe there's been some changes, but if there has been I haven't seen or heard about them.  Unless they plan on pulling out all the stops and innovating out the ass on the track design, this game IS the Mario Kart 7 engine (lol pun) in HD.  Throwing bikes and a few characters back in doesn't cut it, it never has.  So unless these new tracks really are something truly special, I see no reason to "upgrade" from the 3DS version (at least not for $60.... maybe for $30 or so).  While I've no doubt the game will sell well (or well for a WiiU game anyways), I honestly don't see it moving any consoles.  Not when you can get the same damn thing from the 3DS game.

I can't stress that enough either.  From what I played of the game, it really does feel like these tracks should simply be DLC for Mario Kart 7.  I suppose the bikes could be too for that matter?  Either way, unless they've made some changes I'm unaware of, this is the 1st Mario Kart game I will be skipping.... well, ever.

 
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