4TB Seagate Portable HDD "USB Powered" - $119.99 (Amazon)

I've not found any reviews for this drive, so it's likely a pretty new drive from Seagate.   It's a great price, just no reviews to check on before buying.

 
I pulled the HDD out of the 2TB version of this Seagate drive to upgrade my PS4 last year, and it's been working great.

I would expect the 4TB one ought to work, too, and  that's a good price.

As a bonus, the PS4's old drive can be put into the USB enclosure for use as a USB HDD.

 
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MisterAlexEsquire said:
I pulled the HDD out of the 2TB version of this Seagate drive to upgrade my PS4 last year, and it's been working great. I would expect the 4TB one ought to work, too, and that's a good price.

As a bonus, the PS4's old drive can be put into the USB enclosure for use as a USB HDD.
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The 4TB won't work in a PS4 since it's guaranteed to be larger than 9.5mm, which is the highest drive the PS4 can take.

 
shrike4242 said:
The 4TB won't work in a PS4 since it's guaranteed to be larger than 9.5mm, which is the highest drive the PS4 can take.
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Ah, okay. I figured they'd crammed everything into the same size shell. Thanks for the clarification.

I guess it'd be good as an external expansion for the Xbox or as a media drive for the PS4. I plan to get one for use with my computer. It'll be nice to replace my 3TB USB drive that requires a wall adapter with a 4TB drive that doesn't. =)

 
MisterAlexEsquire said:
Ah, okay. I figured they'd crammed everything into the same size shell. Thanks for the clarification.

I guess it'd be good as an external expansion for the Xbox or as a media drive for the PS4. I plan to get one for use with my computer. It'll be nice to replace my 3TB USB drive that requires a wall adapter with a 4TB drive that doesn't. =)
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The Samsung/Seagate Spinpoint M9 @ 2TB is as big as you get with 9.5mm or smaller. There's a Toshiba drive that is 12.7mm or 15.4mm high that is 3TB and I think the 3TB in the WD Passport Ultra is 12.7mm high, as it's the same height as the 2TB one (same size case).

I would assume this 4TB Seagate is 12.7mm high, since the drive is .6" thick.

This drive from Seagate is made up of two drives running in RAID 0, so buyer beware on that one:

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Portable-External-Storage-STDR4000100/dp/B00ZTRXFBA/

 
How are your guys experiences with Segaate drives? From what I've read, they're the least reliable out of the big brands.
 
shrike4242 said:
The Samsung/Seagate Spinpoint M9 @ 2TB is as big as you get with 9.5mm or smaller.
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Gotcha. I'm using the HDD from inside the 2TB version of the Seagate drive. I've still got over 500GB free, so it's not like I'm hurting, but if bumping up were an option, I'd have definitely considered it.


theking_13 said:
How are your guys experiences with Segaate drives? From what I've read, they're the least reliable out of the big brands.
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I'd be interested in knowing where you read that and what all is being considered "big brands." While I go with Western Digital drives 90% of the time, I've also been using Seagate drives for over a decade with no higher failure rates than my WD drives.

 
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theking_13 said:
How are your guys experiences with Segaate drives? From what I've read, they're the least reliable out of the big brands.
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I own over 2 dozen WD drives, between external and internal, about a half-dozen Seagate drives, mostly external and a couple internal, and a couple Hitachi drives, both internal. I've only had two failures of any of my WD drives in the last few years and maybe one Seagate drive in the same timeframe.

Around here, I've seen people been pro-Seagate and anti-WDC and the same for both pro-WDC and anti-Seagate.

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Gotcha. I'm using the HDD from inside the 2TB version of the Seagate drive. I've still got over 500GB free, so it's not like I'm hurting, but if bumping up were an option, I'd have definitely considered it.


I'd be interested in knowing where you read that and what all is being considered "big brands." While I go with Western Digital drives 90% of the time, I've also been using Seagate drives for over a decade with no higher failure rates than my WD drives.
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Only issue with a drive pull is that the warranty isn't on the bare drive, it's on the enclosed drive, so you'd need to send it in put back in the enclosure if it fails and assuming Seagate won't fail the warranty since it's been opened.

Big brands to be would be WDC, Seagate/Samsung, Toshiba and Hitachi.

 
shrike4242 said:
The Samsung/Seagate Spinpoint M9 @ 2TB is as big as you get with 9.5mm or smaller. There's a Toshiba drive that is 12.7mm or 15.4mm high that is 3TB and I think the 3TB in the WD Passport Ultra is 12.7mm high, as it's the same height as the 2TB one (same size case).

I would assume this 4TB Seagate is 12.7mm high, since the drive is .6" thick.

This drive from Seagate is made up of two drives running in RAID 0, so buyer beware on that one:

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Portable-External-Storage-STDR4000100/dp/B00ZTRXFBA/
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I think the drive i posted is a single drive or am i mistaken? Its not the backup plus one show there.

 
shrike4242 said:
Only issue with a drive pull is that the warranty isn't on the bare drive, it's on the enclosed drive, so you'd need to send it in put back in the enclosure if it fails and assuming Seagate won't fail the warranty since it's been opened.

Big brands to be would be WDC, Seagate/Samsung, Toshiba and Hitachi.
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Oh, I'm not concerned with the warranty on the drive. When a 2.5" 2TB HDD costs 50% more than the same drive in a convenient USB enclosure, and when it's coming from a manufacturer I trust, I'm all for the savings.

And yeah, I'm familiar with what I consider "big brands." I was mainly just curious as to what theking_13 was using as a basis of comparison to view Seagate as "least reliable."

 
FYI, I belive Madcatz or one of the other peripheral makers is coming out with a replacement cover and possibly other hardware for the PS4 that allows for larger drive sizes.  Not sure if it's out or when it will be out, but may be worth investigating.

 
shrike4242 said:
I've not found any reviews for this drive, so it's likely a pretty new drive from Seagate. It's a great price, just no reviews to check on before buying.
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yeah its new, newegg has it listed as a "new arrival" but its $139.99 on there.

 
Xenokai said:
I think the drive i posted is a single drive or am i mistaken? Its not the backup plus one show there.
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You're fine. The drive you posted is a single drive, as you can't get two 9.5mm high drives in a .6" thick enclosure. The Backup Plus drive I linked has two 2TB drives in RAID 0, which is why it's fast and also something to be wary of. RAID 0, one of the two drives fail, it's useless.

MisterAlexEsquire said:
Oh, I'm not concerned with the warranty on the drive. When a 2.5" 2TB HDD costs 50% more than the same drive in a convenient USB enclosure, and when it's coming from a manufacturer I trust, I'm all for the savings.

And yeah, I'm familiar with what I consider "big brands." I was mainly just curious as to what theking_13 was using as a basis of comparison to view Seagate as "least reliable."
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The bare 2TB drive routinely goes on sale at NewEgg for $89.99 w/FS AC, so it's not a huge savings with the 2TB external drive pull.

 
I don't do a whole lot of digital games on my XB1, but I know that sooner or later I'm going to need some more space because it seems like every single physical game has a huge installation as well. Would one of these external drives work ok as far as managing that? I guess what I'm asking is if an external "plug and play" USB drive like this can work seamlessly with the XB1 interface and store the data appropriately. I know that in the past, some USB drives weren't compatible, some caused errors due to drm or licensing issues, etc etc. 

 
shrike4242 said:
The bare 2TB drive routinely goes on sale at NewEgg for $89.99 w/FS AC, so it's not a huge savings with the 2TB external drive pull.
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It was on sale for $56 (with promo code) from Fry's back when I picked up mine.

But even outside of that, I would prefer saving "only" ten bucks and pulling the drive from an enclosure. Performing said surgery meant that I ended up with an upgraded 2TB PS4 and a 500GB USB 3.0 hard drive.


JoshTX said:
I don't do a whole lot of digital games on my XB1, but I know that sooner or later I'm going to need some more space because it seems like every single physical game has a huge installation as well. Would one of these external drives work ok as far as managing that? I guess what I'm asking is if an external "plug and play" USB drive like this can work seamlessly with the XB1 interface and store the data appropriately. I know that in the past, some USB drives weren't compatible, some caused errors due to drm or licensing issues, etc etc.
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The drive in the thread's main post specifically touts itself as being usable for that purpose. =)

"Expands your Xbox One gaming experience. Connect this drive to the Xbox One USB port to immediately add storage capacity to your console"

 
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I just pulled the trigger on it,   it wont arrive for a few weeks but my 2tb seagate has worked great and its about full.   I use a samsung evo 500gb ssd as my main xbox one drive but for games i dont really play anymore i move to these other drives and my 2tb is getting full.

 
Xenokai said:
I just pulled the trigger on it, it wont arrive for a few weeks
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Better than what it says now:

"Usually ships within 1 to 2 months."

malfcn said:
I thought 2tb was the USB limit. I'm at 33% used with a ton of junk so I'm good now, but nice to hear for future reference?
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Supposedly it's 16TB?

UPDATE: A Microsoft spokesperson has confirmed to VideoGamer.com that the upper limit for external storage support is 16TB.

Edit: I assumed you meant X1.

 
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I thought 2tb was the USB limit. I'm at 33% used with a ton of junk so I'm good now, but nice to hear for future reference?
 
MisterAlexEsquire said:
It was on sale for $56 (with promo code) from Fry's back when I picked up mine.

But even outside of that, I would prefer saving "only" ten bucks and pulling the drive from an enclosure. Performing said surgery meant that I ended up with an upgraded 2TB PS4 and a 500GB USB 3.0 hard drive.
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That's actually pretty clever, I assume no hardware issues with using the 500GB (probably a different manufacturer) in that?

 
JoshTX said:
I don't do a whole lot of digital games on my XB1, but I know that sooner or later I'm going to need some more space because it seems like every single physical game has a huge installation as well. Would one of these external drives work ok as far as managing that? I guess what I'm asking is if an external "plug and play" USB drive like this can work seamlessly with the XB1 interface and store the data appropriately. I know that in the past, some USB drives weren't compatible, some caused errors due to drm or licensing issues, etc etc.
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As long as the drive is USB 3.0, and 256GB or larger - they work seamlessly. I have a 256GB SSD, 2TB bus-powered, and a 5TB externally powered. I have nothing installed on my 1TB internal drive. I have a *lot* of games on my system and there are no issues.
 
solidsnakealpha said:
As long as the drive is USB 3.0, and 256GB or larger - they work seamlessly. I have a 256GB SSD, 2TB bus-powered, and a 5TB externally powered. I have nothing installed on my 1TB internal drive. I have a *lot* of games on my system and there are no issues.
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Thanks. I probably should have worded my original question better to indicate that I was asking about drives in general and not just this specific one. I remember a Fry's employee telling me at one point that certain operating systems couldn't recognize drives larger than a certain size, and all that fun stuff. That was a couple years ago, but pretty sure he said the 360. After getting mildly confused by all of the specifics back then I ended up not buying one. I may do so now for the XB1.

 
JoshTX said:
Thanks. I probably should have worded my original question better to indicate that I was asking about drives in general and not just this specific one. I remember a Fry's employee telling me at one point that certain operating systems couldn't recognize drives larger than a certain size, and all that fun stuff. That was a couple years ago, but pretty sure he said the 360. After getting mildly confused by all of the specifics back then I ended up not buying one. I may do so now for the XB1.
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The X1 is based on Windows 8.1 originally and now Windows 10. The "regular" OS in 64-bit versions can read drives larger than 2.2TB, which is the limit for 32-bit operating systems, as they only support MBR for hard drives. GPT is used for drives bigger than 2TB and they can go well in excess of 2TB. The OS used by the X1 must have some limit built into it of 16TB, though it could certainly be expanded if needed with a future update.

Since anything bigger than 5-6TB is getting in the realm of expensive, 16TB should be enough for the forseeable future.

lightd93 said:
"usually ships within 1-2 months" Lolwat?!?!? Looks like its on backorder :(
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That's a conservative estimate. Likely will ship will before 1-2 months from now.

 
Bought this drive at Target on clearance a few months ago for my Xbox One. Works great haven't ran into any problems. Takes about the same time as saving on the internal memory.
 
tribalnoise said:
HEY NERD, you left your nerd glasses on
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Drag your knuckles much when you walk, or are you the first generation of your family to be walking fully upright?

Sorry us fully evolved humans are getting in the way of you knocking two controllers together and grunting on cue.

 
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shrike4242 said:
Drag your knuckles much when you walk, or are you the first generation of your family to be walking fully upright?

Sorry us fully evolved humans are getting in the way of you knocking two controllers together and grunting on cue.
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I understood what you said in that post. It just a joke. Sorry man.

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I wouldn't buy this, I'd pay the extra $20 and buy the WD book version.  Seagates have a much higher failure rate than WDs, just google around for it.

Ironically my internal 2TB seagate is having errors now, I just ordered a 4TB WD book (i have one already) from amazon and when it comes in monday I can hopefully copy all the video files off it to the 4TB.  The two 2TB WD's that are also inside my system (all 3 drives came with the PC) are chugging along fine, as is my existing 4TB external WD Book drive.

 
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https://www.backblaze.com/blog/3tb-hard-drive-failure/

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-q3-2015/

If you look online, you'll find most of the Seagate reliablity issues come from their 1.5TB and 3TB of specific model numbers. You'll also find that most of the charts and stats come from Backblaze, which is a fairly large provider of online backup services.  Most of their fifty thousand drives are Seagate and the failure rates for Seagate outside of the problem models has been in line with the rest of the competition. I have no stake in the matter, the last three drives I've bought in the last six months have been a Transcend SSD, Samsung 5TB external, and a Seagate 2TB external. Brand doesn't matter to me, and like a lot of us on here, I've been buying drives for 25+ years.  Take it as you will, I have nothing for or against Seagate and I'd buy another one if it met my price / performance criteria. 

 
I've had a WD 3 TB go out a year or two ago (internal drive Caviar Green I believe). I also had a Seagate 1.5 TB internal go out as well....I believe that was the size about 3 years ago. It happens all drives. 

 
When I said 2tb was the limit, I thought it was the limit for usb powered. I thought anything larger required external. Good to know now though.

 
solidsnakealpha said:
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/3tb-hard-drive-failure/

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-q3-2015/

If you look online, you'll find most of the Seagate reliablity issues come from their 1.5TB and 3TB of specific model numbers. You'll also find that most of the charts and stats come from Backblaze, which is a fairly large provider of online backup services. Most of their fifty thousand drives are Seagate and the failure rates for Seagate outside of the problem models has been in line with the rest of the competition. I have no stake in the matter, the last three drives I've bought in the last six months have been a Transcend SSD, Samsung 5TB external, and a Seagate 2TB external. Brand doesn't matter to me, and like a lot of us on here, I've been buying drives for 25+ years. Take it as you will, I have nothing for or against Seagate and I'd buy another one if it met my price / performance criteria.
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not a big fan of seagate their are dirt cheap to make so alot of companies out source to them, although they out source more now, the old 2010? model verbatim 2tb ex that was also metal are my favorite and used the samsung drives, newest model i got was a fathom 3tb, seems to be holding up well like my other ones, and your right, alot of them to go out eventually depending on use so if people use cheap ones then buy and extra to back up the cheap ones

nitrosmob said:
I've had a WD 3 TB go out a year or two ago (internal drive Caviar Green I believe). I also had a Seagate 1.5 TB internal go out as well....I believe that was the size about 3 years ago. It happens all drives.
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not true, depends on use, i use my wd 2tb from 5 years ago still everyday and i leave it plugged in and on, if you get quality models they will last awhile, just dont put alot of stock in name brands without looking into it as they are alot of time just expensive seagates

 
I own an external 5TB WD and its been great so far. I decided to go all digital and I love it. I just wonder if I should be unplugging it every night. I'm terrified its gonna overheat and explode one day.
 
Groo The Wanderer said:
I own an external 5TB WD and its been great so far. I decided to go all digital and I love it. I just wonder if I should be unplugging it every night. I'm terrified its gonna overheat and explode one day.
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Groo, by default the Xbox One should be turning your external drive off when it powers off. You can toggle that setting off or on. I have a 5TB Samsung and the Xbox reliably turns it off each time the system powers off. Personally I've went umm....mostly digital. I usually pre-order new releases from Best Buy with GCU. Then I gradually replace them with digital during sales using discount Xbox credit.
 
Seems like a good deal. I have a 3TB Seagate drive with external power, but I left the Damn power cable at my mom's 7 hours away so I might just upgrade because I need the space for my One,
 
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