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#1291 defpally   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1726 Posts   Joined 8.6 Years Ago  

defpally

Posted 05 November 2018 - 06:32 PM

As a fan of Blizzard in the 90s, lol.

 

Diablo 2 came out in 2000. Starcraft 1 came out in 1998. Warcraft 3 came out in 2002.

 

"Where's my sequel to a 6 year old game!?"

Then you know it takes forever for Blizzard to go from announcement to game.  If they announced D4 on Friday, it would be minimum two years before it released, maybe three.  Diablo 3 took three years from announce to release.  So that makes a nine to ten year gap, which is not all that inconsistent with the history.

 

That's the thing, this game is a mobile game tailored to the China market.  They chose a partner so they could more easily tap into that market, and they tried to sell it to people that play Blizzard games on pimped out PCs.  They should have handled this much differently.  A titles screen and couple pieces of art would have been enough - tell the audiences "you know we take our time to get things right, so we don't have much to show today and can't answer many questions yet" and fans would have loved it.  Immortal should have been revealed at Apple's iPad show a few weeks back, Apple would have loved that and it wouldn't have been an insult to the fans that paid a ton of money to go to a fan convention or got virtual tickets.  It would have been more like "you also get this" and less "this is it, deal with it".  Nobody likes to open their biggest box Christmas present and find out it just contains socks.



#1292 elessar123  

Posted 05 November 2018 - 06:44 PM

Honestly, I don't think Blizzard is thinking about Diablo 4 yet. 3 is still doing well, and Overwatch is doing well. At most, there'll be another expansion for 3, maybe greenlit after the Blizzcon disaster.



#1293 Thebacklash   Now Drinking: Four Roses Single Barrel CAGiversary!   2034 Posts   Joined 3.9 Years Ago  

Thebacklash

Posted 05 November 2018 - 07:03 PM

If you look at the job postings for blizzard and some of the inside leaked info, 1 of 2 things *are* going on. D4 or another expansion. 

But i'd agree after the blizcon screwup, they will be pushed out quicker. at least official announcements anyway.



#1294 nightc1   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   2341 Posts   Joined 13.4 Years Ago  

Posted 05 November 2018 - 07:28 PM

The only Blizzard game that I've ever had a real interest in and bought was the SNES version of Blackthorne.  I was a big fan of prince of persia & flashback and this blended the two pretty well.   So the whole Blizzcon thing had zero affect on me.... outside of seeing people rant about it.

 

The new mechanics in the final 30 levels (61-90) are some great, challenging mechanics that has some math stuff in it (> & =) and some other stuff in there. I also played without the green outlines, which helps.

Interesting.  I thought it was just over 60 levels and that was it.  90 is healthier, but still that's a pretty low number when the first 30 seem to take maybe a few seconds of logic.   The (> & =) are nice additions to the complexity but it would have been really cool to see this expanded to having more than just 1,2 & 3 for possible answers and maybe go ahead and push to 9 with some massive puzzles.

 

Still, I appreciate the video and if I end up with someone else in my family needing a little logic game.. this could actually be useful for some light brain training.



#1295 FriskyTanuki   I have a piano CAGiversary!   67807 Posts   Joined 15.3 Years Ago  

FriskyTanuki

Posted 05 November 2018 - 07:37 PM

Interesting.  I thought it was just over 60 levels and that was it.  90 is healthier, but still that's a pretty low number when the first 30 seem to take maybe a few seconds of logic.   The (> & =) are nice additions to the complexity but it would have been really cool to see this expanded to having more than just 1,2 & 3 for possible answers and maybe go ahead and push to 9 with some massive puzzles.

 

Still, I appreciate the video and if I end up with someone else in my family needing a little logic game.. this could actually be useful for some light brain training.

I think it's a $3 game for a reason since it takes maybe two or three hours to beat at most, but they added a bunch of levels for free recently to push it to 90. I definitely recommend playing through it and not writing it off based on the first part of the game. I'd put it on par with Picross and Sudoku for easy, but good logic games.



#1296 TheLegendofTyler   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2532 Posts   Joined 9.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 05 November 2018 - 08:03 PM

Snipper clips is $13.79 on Amazon for a digital code:

https://www.amazon.c...do switch games

#1297 defpally   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1726 Posts   Joined 8.6 Years Ago  

defpally

Posted 05 November 2018 - 08:27 PM

Honestly, I don't think Blizzard is thinking about Diablo 4 yet. 3 is still doing well, and Overwatch is doing well. At most, there'll be another expansion for 3, maybe greenlit after the Blizzcon disaster.

You have to remember that Diablo 3 does not have a continuing source of income like WoW or Overwatch.  Buy it, the expansions and you are done.  The RMAH is gone.  They don't have loot boxes (well they kind do with the vendor, but different).  Of course they are working on Diablo 4, and it will definitely have some form of ongoing revenue, either a persistent world with a monthly fee, loot boxes or microtransactions (or all of that).  Immortal is important to them beyond China because it is likely their way of testing the western market for this.



#1298 squishface   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2008 Posts   Joined 9.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 05 November 2018 - 08:31 PM

The flame in the flood is back on sale on the eshop. $7.49

Go buy it right meow!

https://www.nintendo...-edition-switch

#1299 elessar123  

Posted 05 November 2018 - 09:09 PM

Of course they are working on Diablo 4, and it will definitely have some form of ongoing revenue, either a persistent world with a monthly fee, loot boxes or microtransactions (or all of that).

Actually, that's exactly why Diablo Immortal makes sense, and not Diablo 4.



#1300 Thebacklash   Now Drinking: Four Roses Single Barrel CAGiversary!   2034 Posts   Joined 3.9 Years Ago  

Thebacklash

Posted 05 November 2018 - 09:14 PM

You have to remember that Diablo 3 does not have a continuing source of income like WoW or Overwatch.  Buy it, the expansions and you are done.  The RMAH is gone.  They don't have loot boxes (well they kind do with the vendor, but different).  Of course they are working on Diablo 4, and it will definitely have some form of ongoing revenue, either a persistent world with a monthly fee, loot boxes or microtransactions (or all of that).  Immortal is important to them beyond China because it is likely their way of testing the western market for this.

 

 

Actually, that's exactly why Diablo Immortal makes sense, and not Diablo 4.

 

One of the rumors, backed by insider comments, is that Diablo 4 is a MMO. (like WoW, so monthly sub..)

They hired someone to work "in the Diablo universe" with a background in MMO games... thats right from their job postings.

IMO since immortal is being made by someone else, just licensed, it was an easy cash grab.. which is going to backfire hard.



#1301 elessar123  

Posted 05 November 2018 - 09:33 PM

One of the rumors, backed by insider comments, is that Diablo 4 is a MMO. (like WoW, so monthly sub..)

They hired someone to work "in the Diablo universe" with a background in MMO games... thats right from their job postings.

IMO since immortal is being made by someone else, just licensed, it was an easy cash grab.. which is going to backfire hard.

*shrug* I would have just assumed it'd be like a Diablo spinoff, like Fallout 76. WoW also isn't Warcraft 4 in that sense.



#1302 Thebacklash   Now Drinking: Four Roses Single Barrel CAGiversary!   2034 Posts   Joined 3.9 Years Ago  

Thebacklash

Posted 05 November 2018 - 09:48 PM

Well it's all rumors at this point anyway. But i bet with the reception of immortals.. things will pick up faster lol.



#1303 FriskyTanuki   I have a piano CAGiversary!   67807 Posts   Joined 15.3 Years Ago  

FriskyTanuki

Posted 05 November 2018 - 10:29 PM

Here are the new deals for today:

 

:switch:

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Pirate Pop Plus - $3.34 - 33% Off - Ends 11/11

Serial Cleaner - $5.99 - 60% Off - Ends 11/19

 

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Runbow Pocket - $7.49 - 50% Off - Ends 11/11

 

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Pirate Pop Plus - $3.34 - 33% Off - Cross Buy

Runbow - $7.49 - 50% Off

 

New Releases:

 

:switch:

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#1304 defpally   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1726 Posts   Joined 8.6 Years Ago  

defpally

Posted 05 November 2018 - 10:45 PM

One of the rumors, backed by insider comments, is that Diablo 4 is a MMO. (like WoW, so monthly sub..)

They hired someone to work "in the Diablo universe" with a background in MMO games... thats right from their job postings.

IMO since immortal is being made by someone else, just licensed, it was an easy cash grab.. which is going to backfire hard.

I think you are right.  If this was the next Diablo, they would have made it themselves, no way they want to share revenue worldwide on a flagship game (though they will partner in markets where it is necessary).  They used NetEase because it gives them easier access to the notoriously difficult to enter China market.  This kind of game is tailored to that market, but I think Blizzard was stuck with nothing big to show and wanted to test out the microtransaction driven model on the US so they went with it.  This looks like a decision that came down from Activision marketing.



#1305 Thebacklash   Now Drinking: Four Roses Single Barrel CAGiversary!   2034 Posts   Joined 3.9 Years Ago  

Thebacklash

Posted 06 November 2018 - 07:45 AM

To further add to the craziness that is Blizzcon 2018...  :beer:

 

Kotaku claims they have info that a Diablo 4 announcement video was pulled from Blizzcon 2018 at the last minute. (seems like the writer had seen a version of the video, provided by his "sources")

Blizzard now denies it, but as the video points out.. Blizzard doesn't comment on rumors like this. So more oddities.

 

 

Obviously more rumors... but the article does claim that D4 is in fact in development, and somewhat confirmed by Blizzard.

For all we know, it could all be total BS.. Just putting it up here for consumption.



#1306 madmatt213   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   91 Posts   Joined 9.2 Years Ago  

madmatt213

Posted 06 November 2018 - 04:42 PM

I think it's a $3 game for a reason since it takes maybe two or three hours to beat at most, but they added a bunch of levels for free recently to push it to 90. I definitely recommend playing through it and not writing it off based on the first part of the game. I'd put it on par with Picross and Sudoku for easy, but good logic games.


Thank you for the rec and the video you posted, Frisky! I remembered to grab the game just now before it goes back up to $3. I love Sudoku, and this looks fun and different, and suitable for playing with a controller.

#1307 Renzler   Dude CAG Veteran   511 Posts   Joined 0.4 Years Ago  

Posted 07 November 2018 - 12:28 AM

CAG Twitter posted that used Kirby All Star Allies is $30 at gamefly. Free shipping. Picked one up.

Edit: https://www.gamefly....-Allies/5014223

#1308 defpally   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1726 Posts   Joined 8.6 Years Ago  

defpally

Posted 07 November 2018 - 02:47 PM

CAG Twitter posted that used Kirby All Star Allies is $30 at gamefly. Free shipping. Picked one up.

Edit: https://www.gamefly....-Allies/5014223

It's a quality game if you enjoy Kirby games.  A little easy and a tad short, but an enjoyable experience, my 9 yr old son loved it.  But he was able to 100% it fairly quickly.  If you are an older skilled, seasoned gamer keep that in mind.  $30 is a reasonable price for it.



#1309 dualrec  

Posted 07 November 2018 - 09:27 PM

new to the switch :)

Is the NES game collection with subscription EA Access style (a vault full of games) 

can a game leave once added?

or you have to 'purchase' them each month like PS+?

google is failing me right now and I remember at one point someone telling me games rotated in and out each month, but not sure they really knew.



#1310 theflicker   Hurm. CAGiversary!   1714 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

theflicker

Posted 07 November 2018 - 09:46 PM

new to the switch :)
Is the NES game collection with subscription EA Access style (a vault full of games)
can a game leave once added?
or you have to 'purchase' them each month like PS+?
google is failing me right now and I remember at one point someone telling me games rotated in and out each month, but not sure they really knew.

I don't think we really know. No games have left so far, but it would not surprise me if anything not first party eventually were to leave and that's because you don't "purchase" them like you do on PSN. There's nothing, at the moment, that really ties them to your account.

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#1311 FriskyTanuki   I have a piano CAGiversary!   67807 Posts   Joined 15.3 Years Ago  

FriskyTanuki

Posted 07 November 2018 - 09:58 PM

new to the switch :)

Is the NES game collection with subscription EA Access style (a vault full of games) 

can a game leave once added?

or you have to 'purchase' them each month like PS+?

google is failing me right now and I remember at one point someone telling me games rotated in and out each month, but not sure they really knew.

It's more like PlayStation Now, where you get the app and can play all of the games in it as much as you want as long as you have an active sub. They've said that they're only adding to it rather than a monthly suite of games:

 

https://en-americas-..._id/41205/p/897



#1312 dualrec  

Posted 08 November 2018 - 03:29 AM

Thanks guys.  



#1313 TheLegendofTyler   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2532 Posts   Joined 9.4 Years Ago  

TheLegendofTyler

Posted 08 November 2018 - 03:31 AM

Thanks guys. I signed up for switch online, and I already have a my Nintendo account.
I'm trying to buy the NES controllers but I see this:

To pre-purchase this item, you must have a paid Nintendo Switch Online membership and a Nintendo Account


Are they sold out? or am I missing something?

If you did the 7 day free trial then you have to wait until your trial is up and your paid membership begins.

#1314 FriskyTanuki   I have a piano CAGiversary!   67807 Posts   Joined 15.3 Years Ago  

FriskyTanuki

Posted 08 November 2018 - 02:39 PM

https://www.bestbuy....cat=Video Games

 

Best Buy's BF ad has some Switch and 3DS games in it, though not much for Nintendo on Switch outside of Sushi Striker and Fire Emblem Warriors for $35 each. 3DS has the Pokemon Ultra games for $20, Ocarina of Time 3D and Animal Crossing New Leaf for $15, and Captain Toad 3DS for $30.



#1315 dualrec  

Posted 08 November 2018 - 05:02 PM

If you did the 7 day free trial then you have to wait until your trial is up and your paid membership begins.


Showed up to buy after logging out and back in. Didn't do trial. Thanks. Got me some ordered.

#1316 HDShadow   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   557 Posts   Joined 10.0 Years Ago  

Posted 08 November 2018 - 05:53 PM

https://www.bestbuy....cat=Video Games

 

Best Buy's BF ad has some Switch and 3DS games in it, though not much for Nintendo on Switch outside of Sushi Striker and Fire Emblem Warriors for $35 each. 3DS has the Pokemon Ultra games for $20, Ocarina of Time 3D and Animal Crossing New Leaf for $15, and Captain Toad 3DS for $30.

Man, I really want Sushi Striker, but I need that digitally. I already don't like buying physical games, I definitely refuse to grab that physically.



#1317 FriskyTanuki   I have a piano CAGiversary!   67807 Posts   Joined 15.3 Years Ago  

FriskyTanuki

Posted 08 November 2018 - 06:05 PM

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:switch: Pre-orders

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Circle of Sumo - $6.99 - 30% Off - Ends 11/24

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:switch:

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Typoman - $9.09 - 30% Off - Ends 11/22

 

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Stack 'em High - $1.99 - 50% Off - Ends 11/22

SubaraCity - $1.99 - 50% Off - Ends 11/22
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World Conqueror 3D - $2.99 - 50% Off - Ends 11/22
 
:wiiu:
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Breakout Defense 2 - $4.90 - 30% Off

Double Breakout II - $4.90 - 30% Off
Pinball Breakout - $4.90 - 30% Off
 
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:switch:
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Brawlhalla - Free
Collidalot - $12.50 - Out 11/9
Crashlands - $14.99
Grip - $39.99
MechaNika - $5.99
Noir Chronicles: City of Crime - $14.99 - Out 11/9
Operation Pig - $10.99
Rage in Peace - $12.99
Rogue Legacy - $14.99
Saboteur! - $8.00 - Out 11/9
Solitaire - $9.99
Syberia 1 & 2 - $34.99
Townsmen - $19.99 - Out 11/9
Varion - $12.99
Youtube - Free
 
:3ds:


#1318 buckythekat   dv8 King of Concerns CAGiversary!   3225 Posts   Joined 11.1 Years Ago  

buckythekat

Posted 08 November 2018 - 09:54 PM

hoping for some good deals come Black Friday



#1319 gunstar808   Capitalism, Ho! CAGiversary!   1044 Posts   Joined 11.6 Years Ago  

Posted 10 November 2018 - 01:28 PM

Shikhondo got... cheaper? 



#1320 BadWaluigi  

BadWaluigi

Posted 10 November 2018 - 02:20 PM

Always open to "sales pitches" for underground eshop goodies (few and far between, buried in the huge dumpster of steam greenlight-quality shovelware, I know). Like Pool Panic - that any good?