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#31 Syntax Error   Art School Dropout CAGiversary!   10665 Posts   Joined 6.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 05:13 PM

I would just wait until a computer fair came to town and then buy all the previous months' worth of Compute! Gazette programs for a buck a disk.



#32 Sporkis   Will Duel 4 Mead! CAGiversary!   1749 Posts   Joined 12.8 Years Ago  

Posted 07 August 2018 - 05:37 PM

No Bard's Tales, no buy for me.



#33 Syntax Error   Art School Dropout CAGiversary!   10665 Posts   Joined 6.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 05:39 PM

No Bard's Tales, no buy for me.

https://www.pcgamer....buts-next-week/



#34 Sporkis   Will Duel 4 Mead! CAGiversary!   1749 Posts   Joined 12.8 Years Ago  

Posted 07 August 2018 - 05:43 PM

Yeah, finally.  I'm a backer on the Bard Tales IV kickstarter.  I've got the originals downloaded and been waiting for the remasters to drop.



#35 zeldafanjtl   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   166 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 08:14 PM

I actually care more about people buying all these separate single board computers when they could just DIY a Pi and load it up with roms. My C64 folder has all the games and some apps and takes up about 500MB on my 64GB micro SD.

https://thehardtimes...ever-shut-fuck/



#36 teh lurv  

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 09:18 PM

Anyone wondering if the C64 mini is worth the price or not, the UK magazine Retro Gamer did a review of it in issue #181. The reviewer thought it was a decent attempt at distilling the best the C64 library had to offer given licencing, etc, with his main criticism the amount of input lag the unit seemed to introduce despite outputting at HDMI 720p.



#37 Ratmonkey  

Posted 07 August 2018 - 10:24 PM

https://thehardtimes...ever-shut-fuck/


Wow, I don't think I've ever read an article that discribed these threads so accurately.

Nes mini
Snes mini
C64 mini

#38 Tendoboy   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   236 Posts   Joined 14.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 12:37 AM

I don't think anyone is hating on the C64. The older games that would be included with this C64 Mini a few of us are saying they don't hold up and that the Mini isn't worth $70. I didn't grow up with the C64 though and had an Atari 5200 and NES as my first game systems. I grew up a Nintendo and Sega kid for the most part so I am just not nostalgic for the C64 either.


Funny, I still have my original 2600, you must be younger, but my wife and older son just bought me a 5200 at an antique store!! Never had or even saw one before...All the games still have the instructions, and it works just fine (although notorious for crappy controllers)

#39 Tendoboy   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   236 Posts   Joined 14.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 12:39 AM

Gotcha, misundertood. In regards to the mini then I would hope the modders unlock some very cool features. I may very well be interested if that was the case. I also recommend to anyone even remotely curious to scope out facebook marketplace and craigslist and find a C64 and maybe (hopefully) a commodore monitor. I lucked out bigger than shit when I picked up mine. Even repairing is pretty straight forward thanks to the community.



Still have the 64, monitor and disk drive, in original boxes. Just have to dig them out...

#40 chrislaustin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   6567 Posts   Joined 12.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 12:52 AM

Funny, I still have my original 2600, you must be younger, but my wife and older son just bought me a 5200 at an antique store!! Never had or even saw one before...All the games still have the instructions, and it works just fine (although notorious for crappy controllers)

Yeah, we could all argue over what the best controller of all time, and we would probably get many different #1's. But when it comes to the worst controller of all time, I don't think many would argue the 5200 wins top honors hands down. LOL



#41 Blade   Imminently Punchable CAGiversary!   14105 Posts   Joined 13.4 Years Ago  

Posted 08 August 2018 - 01:23 AM

Thanks, I got a kick out of reading that guy's rant. I do think I'm superior for being competent enough to operate Linux and load an open source platform with 30,000 games across dozens of systems, instead of buying proprietary, one system versions of the same thing for roughly the same price and bitching about the game selection.

 

 

Wow, I don't think I've ever read an article that discribed these threads so accurately.

Nes mini
Snes mini
C64 mini

 

You forgot the Arcade1Up machines, sport. Nothing like paying $300 for 3/4 games on a MAME machine in a child-sized cabinet!



#42 Mooby   Herp Derp CAGiversary!   10253 Posts   Joined 7.9 Years Ago  

Posted 08 August 2018 - 02:30 PM

How is this a thing?

Bro, this is CAG forums in a nutshell: less about actual gaming and more about gaming 'culture.' Gotz to have the latest and greatest 'back in t3h day' gimmick!



#43 Syntax Error   Art School Dropout CAGiversary!   10665 Posts   Joined 6.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 02:46 PM

You forgot the Arcade1Up machines, sport. Nothing like paying $300 for 3/4 games on a MAME machine in a child-sized cabinet!

I love that they present "It's smaller so you can sit on this little stool while you play" as a selling point.  Nothing to make you feel old like "It's too hard to stand at an arcade game these days".



#44 adam81  

Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:45 PM

I remember the good old days of the c64.  Wake up in the morning, put in the word processor program (easy word). type in (load "*",8,1) get ready, have breakfast, go to school, get home from school, fix a snack, feed the dog and sit in front of the computer and still wait 10 minutes for it to finishing to load.

 

Pretty sure the average kid today woudn't even have the patience to load a Commodore 64 disk let alone deal with the command lines. Raid on Bungeling Bay probably took 20 minutes to load. That was the longest one.  Had a lot of cartridges and tons of copied discs. 



#45 Syntax Error   Art School Dropout CAGiversary!   10665 Posts   Joined 6.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 07:33 PM

Raid on Bungeling Bay probably took 20 minutes to load. That was the longest one.

*Ahem*



#46 nightc1   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   2297 Posts   Joined 13.3 Years Ago  

Posted 08 August 2018 - 08:49 PM

I did buy one of the all in one controllers with 30 games years back for like $20... ended up not even opening as I was really only casually interested in it and eventually ebayed it off for well more than I paid.   C64 mini seems solid for what it is.  I like that you can connect a keyboard and actually use it as a C64... but... I know myself and I'd never put real time in with it.   Glad to see those that want it are getting that option with an actual preorder.



#47 husher   Yet what is any ocean but a multitude of drops? CAGiversary!   2428 Posts   Joined 11.4 Years Ago  

Posted 09 August 2018 - 03:22 AM

I would just wait until a computer fair came to town and then buy all the previous months' worth of Compute! Gazette programs for a buck a disk.

 

You guys and your fancy disks...we had the cassette tape storage unit.  



#48 Tendoboy   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   236 Posts   Joined 14.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 03:30 AM

Well, way back in the day when some people were playing Nintendos, other people were playing games on computers and building their gaming memories that way.

However, I don't really get the whole retro-nostalgia gaming craze in general. I had fun back then but I've moved on to other newer fun things and, if I ever feel like I must play Project: Firestart, I can download an emulator, play it for a few hours and say "Well, that was that. See you in 2025 when I want to get it out of my system again". I'm simply not going to make playing Project: Firestart a weekly event that I need a dedicated machine for it.

Agreed that most of the games on this look ho-hum, although it does have Paradroid and that game was awesome.

It’s history, never gets out of your system....a lot of great memories! That’s why these things are important, I’ve kept up, and have all the new systems, I enjoy them as well, but in another 20 years they will be retro and you’ll remember playing those ( if your fortunate) ...continuation of the journey....My son recently bought a raspberry pie and put retro gaming stuff on it, we are playing the original NES Castlevania tonight, I never even played through it, he’s only 22, but still greatly appreciates and enjoys it, even though we are making cracks about how different games are now, the intensity (new Smash bros announcement today) vs load times, bad controls, of the past, etc. regardless, if you appreciate these retro machines regardless of your age and are able to buy them, it’s priceless and your enjoying history, thankfully that isn’t in erasure or denial mode.

#49 Tendoboy   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   236 Posts   Joined 14.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 03:39 AM

You guys and your fancy disks...we had the cassette tape storage unit.

No shit, have a pile of those and accidentally put one in a cassette player, you wake up pretty quick, most don’t really even remember dial-up Internet and the same horrible squealing noises created.....waiting for that to connect and load....

#50 chrislaustin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   6567 Posts   Joined 12.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 04:30 AM

You guys and your fancy disks...we had the cassette tape storage unit.  

Sadly, this is true of my first taste of technology probably back in 77 or so, and it lit a passion for games that I still have to this day. So a HUGE Thank You to those relic dinosaurs of days gone by, as you all had a part to play in the industry we know & love today.



#51 Blade   Imminently Punchable CAGiversary!   14105 Posts   Joined 13.4 Years Ago  

Posted 09 August 2018 - 07:36 AM

It’s history, never gets out of your system....a lot of great memories! That’s why these things are important, I’ve kept up, and have all the new systems, I enjoy them as well, but in another 20 years they will be retro and you’ll remember playing those ( if your fortunate) ...continuation of the journey....My son recently bought a raspberry pie and put retro gaming stuff on it, we are playing the original NES Castlevania tonight, I never even played through it, he’s only 22, but still greatly appreciates and enjoys it, even though we are making cracks about how different games are now, the intensity (new Smash bros announcement today) vs load times, bad controls, of the past, etc. regardless, if you appreciate these retro machines regardless of your age and are able to buy them, it’s priceless and your enjoying history, thankfully that isn’t in erasure or denial mode.

My friends and I are 30 now, and I brought my retropie to one of our gatherings. So I started up Super Mario World, a game that we'd all beaten back in our childhood. It could've been because we were using the D-Pad and not joysticks, or it could've been lag in the controllers or the HDMI and LED connection, or the emulator we were using, or even just slower reflexes due to age...but we died more than I ever remember dying. I actually had to get lives transferred over to me, on a game that I fully completed when I was 9.

 

So yeah, times have definitely changed. Games are so much more fluid than they were when we were young. Running into a lot of glitches on good roms, things that would've been patched today. Some of these Genesis games have player sprites that take up 20% of the screen, and a lot of them aren't even fun (looking at you, Eek the Cat). Hell, I can't even understand what's going on in some Amiga games I've tried. Only a few games have survived the test of time.



#52 nightc1   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   2297 Posts   Joined 13.3 Years Ago  

Posted 09 August 2018 - 01:30 PM

My friends and I are 30 now, and I brought my retropie to one of our gatherings. So I started up Super Mario World, a game that we'd all beaten back in our childhood. It could've been because we were using the D-Pad and not joysticks, or it could've been lag in the controllers or the HDMI and LED connection, or the emulator we were using, or even just slower reflexes due to age...but we died more than I ever remember dying. I actually had to get lives transferred over to me, on a game that I fully completed when I was 9.

It's input lag mostly but controls as well.  I like my retropi setup (especially for Arcade games and obscure computers like the TI99/4A) but it's far from perfect.  SNES Classic is where it's at for an experience nearly identical to the original SNES hardware that's also super portable and lightning quick to start and shut off.   It's funny because the RetroPi is what got me more interested in the "Classic" systems.  I now see the strengths and weaknesses of each option.



#53 Super Strider TurbulenceEX   Son of the Old Gods CAG Veteran   100 Posts   Joined 0.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 02:21 PM

Original hardware yo. Everything else is an imitation that falls short.

Except for arcades, because they are large, high maintenance, expensive, and in the case of my beloved Capcom CPS-2 games, designed to fail. I'm actually interested in that Street Fighter Arcade1UP cabinet. If the buttons and sticks are solid, the input lag is minimal  and I can add whatever rom I want, I'll buy one.

 

edit: Screw that, the cabs are too small.



#54 n64ra   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2195 Posts   Joined 11.1 Years Ago  

Posted 09 August 2018 - 06:15 PM

I'll wait for reviews, but this does look interesting.



#55 Tendoboy   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   236 Posts   Joined 14.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 12:23 AM

It's input lag mostly but controls as well.  I like my retropi setup (especially for Arcade games and obscure computers like the TI99/4A) but it's far from perfect.  SNES Classic is where it's at for an experience nearly identical to the original SNES hardware that's also super portable and lightning quick to start and shut off.   It's funny because the RetroPi is what got me more interested in the "Classic" systems.  I now see the strengths and weaknesses of each option.


I actually acquired a complete TI99/4A with Hard-drives last Nov, haven’t hooked it up yet...on the list. In-laws parents had the old display unit with the games hanging from it by cables if anyone remembers that....you could pull them down and put them in the system to try the game in like Kmart....

#56 Tendoboy   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   236 Posts   Joined 14.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 12:31 AM

Thanks, I got a kick out of reading that guy's rant. I do think I'm superior for being competent enough to operate Linux and load an open source platform with 30,000 games across dozens of systems, instead of buying proprietary, one system versions of the same thing for roughly the same price and bitching about the game selection.
 
 
 
You forgot the Arcade1Up machines, sport. Nothing like paying $300 for 3/4 games on a MAME machine in a child-sized cabinet!


That’s funny, bought one .... son wants it for college graduation- twisted my arm.....def gonna get hacked !

#57 chrislaustin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   6567 Posts   Joined 12.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 11:00 AM

I actually acquired a complete TI99/4A with Hard-drives last Nov, haven’t hooked it up yet...on the list. In-laws parents had the old display unit with the games hanging from it by cables if anyone remembers that....you could pull them down and put them in the system to try the game in like Kmart....

Yeah, I was around back then and saw some units on display, but none with that particular set up, sounds like a very cool and unique collectible to say the least. I miss those times, as I never knew what crazy new electronic gadgets I was going to see on any given mall trip. Now with the Internet, there's just not much mystery at retail anymore, but back then, it was a favorite pastime. LOL



#58 Retroxcellance   Billy "Big Bang" Blitz CAGiversary!   1264 Posts   Joined 4.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 12:15 PM

I loved my C64 back in the day but as we upgraded our computer, the C64 got moved to grandma's house and there it stayed until the early 2000's. I don't remember what they did with it but I do remember my grandpa asking if it could get on the Internet.  

Bruce Lee was my favorite game for the C64.  It looks pretty rough now. 



#59 Tendoboy   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   236 Posts   Joined 14.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 01:01 PM

I loved my C64 back in the day but as we upgraded our computer, the C64 got moved to grandma's house and there it stayed until the early 2000's. I don't remember what they did with it but I do remember my grandpa asking if it could get on the Internet.  
Bruce Lee was my favorite game for the C64.  It looks pretty rough now.


The OCEAN Rambo game was really good too!

For this who have patience, watch this video of the loading (in old REAL time) and painfully slow intro....hilarious!

At least my version was on floppy, tape is much worse...sound and music were awesome for its time.

https://www.youtube....o&feature=share

#60 bojay1997   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5911 Posts   Joined 14.8 Years Ago  

Posted 10 August 2018 - 03:28 PM

The OCEAN Rambo game was really good too!

For this who have patience, watch this video of the loading (in old REAL time) and painfully slow intro....hilarious!

At least my version was on floppy, tape is much worse...sound and music were awesome for its time.

Rambo was great.  I am curious though, did none of you have Fastloader or Action Replay?  I realize that they didn't work with certain games because of the copy protection, but if you had games from "other" sources, they worked well and sometimes would even include a fast loader built in.