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I am really sick of anime influence


#91 willardhaven   Thief of Life CAGiversary!   7086 Posts   Joined 12.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 February 2006 - 08:12 PM

Yeah, what the heck is going on with the Boondocks cartoon? Why is there so much fighting and action? It's supposed to be a comedy.

#92 Mookyjooky   Work is play... CAGiversary!   5202 Posts   Joined 12.4 Years Ago  

Posted 13 February 2006 - 08:17 PM

That's what I call a contradiction...


I think he's talking about :

Batman : The Animated Series = Good

The Batman = Bad


#93 GuilewasNK   No gimmicks necessary. CAGiversary!   21263 Posts   Joined 12.8 Years Ago  

Posted 13 February 2006 - 08:17 PM

Look at last Sunday's episode... lots of anime inspired fighting scenes, one episode had the samurai fight in the woods.

Last Sunday's episode was REALLY weak, because Boondocks isn't an action oriented fighting show, imo.



When I say content I meant the dialogue and satire. The rampant n-bombs are definitely not anime inspired, lol.

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#94 GuilewasNK   No gimmicks necessary. CAGiversary!   21263 Posts   Joined 12.8 Years Ago  

Posted 13 February 2006 - 08:20 PM

I think he's talking about :

Batman : The Animated Series = Good

The Batman = Bad


Probably. The Batman vs. Dracula was pretty good, but other than that it hasn't impressed me. I'll still end up getting the DVD one day though. I like the way they do the fight scenes but with Batman that should be secondary to the dectective work IMO.

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#95 Duo_Maxwell   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5751 Posts   Joined 12.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 February 2006 - 08:25 PM

I think he's talking about :

Batman : The Animated Series = Good

The Batman = Bad


Yes but they are both "americanime" as he calls it. Maybe if they actually got Sunrise to do all the animation work for them again The Batman would be good.

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Posted 13 February 2006 - 08:46 PM

I found Samurai Jack to be one of the more blatant rip offs of the Anime style. On top of which, it wasn't particularly interesting or fun to watch.
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#97 Mookyjooky   Work is play... CAGiversary!   5202 Posts   Joined 12.4 Years Ago  

Posted 13 February 2006 - 08:47 PM

Yes but they are both "americanime" as he calls it. Maybe if they actually got Sunrise to do all the animation work for them again The Batman would be good.


True, whatever happened to Sunrise? That house was the Jesus Christ of Anime.

#98 Mookyjooky   Work is play... CAGiversary!   5202 Posts   Joined 12.4 Years Ago  

Posted 13 February 2006 - 08:47 PM

I found Samurai Jack to be one of the more blatant rip offs of the Anime style. On top of which, it wasn't particularly interesting or fun to watch.


Really? I thought more like crappy flash animation.

#99 Kayden   Banned Banned   17673 Posts   Joined 11.8 Years Ago  

Posted 13 February 2006 - 09:51 PM

I think this thread needs to be called animEMO. If you like an anime that more that 5 people have heard of, you suck. If it's not already a classic, it never will be. Finally, you're a total tool for going along with the mass market and enjoying the mainstream.


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#100 GuilewasNK   No gimmicks necessary. CAGiversary!   21263 Posts   Joined 12.8 Years Ago  

Posted 13 February 2006 - 09:54 PM

I think this thread needs to be called animEMO. If you like an anime that more that 5 people have heard of, you suck. If it's not already a classic, it never will be. Finally, you're a total tool for going along with the mass market and enjoying the mainstream.


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You can actually apply that to any form of entertainment IMO.

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#101 TurkeyOnRye   Hey? Is this velvet? CAGiversary!   1144 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 02:40 AM

Reading all of the posts... I'm beginning to realize that the lines everyone iterprets as pure "American" and pure "Anime" are fuzzy. When I think of American, I either think of Looney Toons/Disney/Simpsons/Family Guy-ish or G.I. Joe/X-Men(90's)/Spiderman(90's)
and Anime as... well... anime. Anything coming from Japan and translated.

Someone said that Batman:TAS is "americanime" and I couldn't disagree more. I don't see the connection between basic anime conventions and TAS besides it being composed of simple lines and that isn't good enough for me. It was simply a different piece of art never really seen before and everyone felt the need to catagorize it instead of just saying it's original.

I think the same goes for alot of Cartoon Network's Cartoon-Cartoons. Dexter's Lab has a very "new" American look, but pays tribute to anime in some obviously anime-inspired scenes (giant mechs or the Speed Racer tribute anyone?)

#102 willardhaven   Thief of Life CAGiversary!   7086 Posts   Joined 12.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 03:06 AM

Someone said that Batman:TAS is "americanime" and I couldn't disagree more. I don't see the connection between basic anime conventions and TAS besides it being composed of simple lines and that isn't good enough for me. It was simply a different piece of art never really seen before and everyone felt the need to catagorize it instead of just saying it's original.

I think the same goes for alot of Cartoon Network's Cartoon-Cartoons. Dexter's Lab has a very "new" American look, but pays tribute to anime in some obviously anime-inspired scenes (giant mechs or the Speed Racer tribute anyone?)


I agree... Take each piece as an original. You can't fault something for its influence.

#103 Duo_Maxwell   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5751 Posts   Joined 12.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 03:14 AM

Someone said that Batman:TAS is "americanime" and I couldn't disagree more. I don't see the connection between basic anime conventions and TAS besides it being composed of simple lines and that isn't good enough for me. It was simply a different piece of art never really seen before and everyone felt the need to catagorize it instead of just saying it's original.


It was animated by Sunrise Inc... in Japan IIRC... using their artists, techniques, and styles. American artists storyboarded some of it and did some character designing but it was without a doubt one of the real first successful collabortions using the talent and art of an overseas animation company and the frist real sucessful "americanime" so to speak. The high framerate and smooth art wasn't even that uncommon in Japan animation studios, just over here at the time. Just because it was good doesn't mean it wasn't "americanime"...

#104 TurkeyOnRye   Hey? Is this velvet? CAGiversary!   1144 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 03:56 AM

Just because it was good doesn't mean it wasn't "americanime"...


I never said that. I just said I don't agree with the title. Americanime to me is a cartoon that is a mix of the two styles that obviously shows each style. Teen Titans is a good one that comes to mind (And yes I do like it)... it shows that it is a decendent from the Paul Dinni/Bruce Timm cartoons yet it uses the typical anime conventions (sweat drops, distorted faces, etc...). G.I. Joe Sigma Six is another example. It's an american based cartoon overhauled in anime by a japanese writer to appeal to the growing U.S. anime market. And it blows. It's quite possibly the worst example of my interpretation of "Americanime" there is.

I personally believe (and I could be wrong) that Batman:TAS doesn't fall in that catagory just because it was animated in Japan. I think the developers of the show had a certain vision for the show, a certain look, and the animators had to stay with that look. There is no anime comparible to the look of Batman:TAS as far as I know so I consider it totally original to the creators.

Someone said most of the tweener frames for shows like the Simpsons are done in Korea... but we still consider the Simpsons american. I think the same should go for Batman:TAS...