Steam Deals Thread V13 ~ Star Wars Empire at War $6.80 | The Legend of Korra $10.04 | Red Faction Guerrilla $2.99 |

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Summer sale has come and gone; welcome to the Steam Deals Thread V13!
 
Stop: Before you go any further be sure you are using Enhanced Steam. It will save you a lot of time and embarrassment in the future.
 
Daily Deal
Star Wars: Empire at War Gold Edition - $19.99 $6.80

 
Yesterday's Deal

N/A

Midweek Madness
The Legend of Korra - $14.99 $10.04

Red Faction - $9.99 $1.49
Red Faction II - $9.99 $1.49
Red Faction Armageddon - $19.99 $2.99
Red Faction Guerrilla - $19.99 $2.99 
 
Thanks to EastX, Detruire, Psydero, and everyone else that has contributed to the thread!

 
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As a gamer + consumer: one thing I find tiring - is we're all playing here on Windows, but there's different distribution platforms that have different versions. Sometimes, there's different DRM schemes - i.e. Steam-version has CEG, another version has something else for DRM. Omerta on GOG finally got updated + patched to same-version as Steam, after months and months of gamers on GOG waiting. Should game-owners be penalized for buying one-version say over another? This crap, it sucks. We've seen other versions get more DLC's on one version, but DLC never hit another version - that crap, it sucks. If I own a game on Windows - shouldn't that be enough? Shouldn't game companies keep every Windows version up-to-date in every regard, from patches to content DLC's?
I'm not saying it isn't a jerk thing to do because it's totally a jerk thing to do. It just seems the reaction is a bit overblown if it's resulted in completely flaming the forum but then it's the internet and presumably just a vocal minority.

So yeah, it sucks, but going to the Steam forums and blowing it up for the new people who bought the game and want to discuss it there is a shitty response too.

 
I just want to state that I did receive an Evil Pumpkin key, but it sucks that Hal didn't get any help.

I sent them an email on the 14th about three games that I hadn't gotten, and I received keys for two of the games yesterday. So it took them only 4 days. It's not a lost cause to try, if you're missing some keys.
Maybe things have changed. I had problems with some of the first games that made it onto Steam.

 
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You realize the forums were even more blowing up for people saying it's too expensive and it will be going f2p etc etc right?

I mean I guess you will say they are entitled too but it's not all the people asking for keys doing it. 

 
Fallout New Vegas is pretty incredible, and the ultimate edition is absolutely worth 6.67...can't believe they're selling it for that though. Makes me extra glad i picked it up last year during quakecon from gamefly for 4 bucks.

 
Consider this, though. Yes, it would be easy for him to go and check your join date. It would probably take him about a minute and a half, all said.

Should he do that for all 5,000* emailed requests for keys? Had he been checking them and finding that 9 out of 10* were bogus, what are the chances he's just burned out by now thanks to people trying to cheat him? What are the odds that granting a few keys to bogus requests gets the word out on Reddit that everyone should try shooting him a request because it doesn't hurt to try (except for the additional several hours of work it creates for the guy)?

I understand your position, and I'd probably feel poisoned against the game and the dev to the point that if I ever played it**, I'd remember it as "that game" and have that sour the experience for me. I just think it's unreasonable to think that your email was unique in its obvious validity at a single glance. I also figure that if I ever put myself in his position***, I'd also want to handle it all in one go and then be done with it. I wouldn't want to drop what I'm doing later to give priority to more (often fraudulent) key requests.

Not saying the dev is right to deny you your key, but I hope looking at his side of it takes off some of the sting.
I'm a reasonable guy and I understand his plight.

But I didn't want to empathize, I wanted to whine about a broken system. If he wants to complain about things from his point of view he can go do it on a Greenlight Dev forum. I came to Cheap Ass Gamers to complain about the inconvenience suffered by me while being a cheap ass.

Like I said... I'm done with it. I see all sides. I am omniscient.

But running into an immovable wall always hurts a bit... at least for a short while. :wall:

 
So that makes it okay to flame it more? The "wait to F2P" people suck too but they're not the recent controversy surrounding that game which is why I didn't address them as the ones doing all the flaming.

And even though I used that word in jest, stop pretending like it's some bad word that seethes absolute negativity. People that feel that they should get keys to the Steam version of the game because they bought some other version from a different distribution is the definition of entitlement. I'm not sure if it's a bad thing or not because it's still sensitive ground with how game companies are dealing with it.

 
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Alright weird trying too hard to be cute blue haired girl bouncing around with a pikachu shirt on and dry humping a bed animated gif signature person. Whatever you say. I defer to your expertise on entitlement.

 
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I'm a reasonable guy and I understand his plight.

But I didn't want to empathize, I wanted to whine about a broken system. If he wants to complain about things from his point of view he can go do it on a Greenlight Dev forum. I came to Cheap Ass Gamers to complain about the inconvenience suffered by me while being a cheap ass.

Like I said... I'm done with it. I see all sides. I am omniscient.

But running into an immovable wall always hurts a bit... at least for a short while. :wall:
I get it. Sometimes even if you know you can't change something, even if you're not even asking to, sometimes people just want to vent about shit.

It gets hard to do that sometimes on the internet because there are either well meaning people who want to 'solve' the problem or show you the other point of view that you don't really want to see as well as not so well meaning people waiting in the wings to say 'You're wrong because...!' or 'Entitled!'. ;)

 
Fallout new Vegas ultimate edition needs to hit 5 bucks again if steam wants me to pay gaben bucks to play it. Otherwise I'll deal with not experiencing another 100 hours of what looks exactly like fallout 3 but in a different setting.
 
Fallout new Vegas ultimate edition needs to hit 5 bucks again if steam wants me to pay gaben bucks to play it. Otherwise I'll deal with not experiencing another 100 hours of what looks exactly like fallout 3 but in a different setting.
if you get it from gamefly w/the 20% off coupon it's like 5.30

 
If you get it on Steam well over a year ago when everyone else did, it's 4.99.

I'M HELPING! :whee:
Lol you are helping, but I wasn't a CAG pc guy till a few months ago.

What really pisses me off is I remember seeing fallout NV for 5 bucks a year or so ago but I never got it cause I was going to get it on console instead of pc as I doubt my crap laptop could have ran it.
 
The irony, it burns!

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He knows it was ironic.

It's all about the meta.

Lol you are helping, but I wasn't a CAG pc guy till a few months ago.

What really pisses me off is I remember seeing fallout NV for 5 bucks a year or so ago but I never got it cause I was going to get it on console instead of pc as I doubt my crap laptop could have ran it.
I had the same issue.

I just said to hell with it and paid the premium during the steam sale.

Just dive in man, I believe in you. Those $2 won't matter in a year.

 
Incorrect. He's American and therefore immune to irony.

It says so here in the Big Book of Irony, chapter 4, subsection 3.1.

*points*

You fall under subsection 3.2, since you asked.
I'm Canadian. We don't like to be called Americans, I think.

wait, is 3.2 about Canadians?

 
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fuck ing console peasants.

Humble Bethesda Bundle:

All games = Steam-keys:

Tier 1:

Wallpapers for a bunch of their games

Tier 2 - $10 minimum:

The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind - GOTY

The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion - GOTY Deluxe

Tier 2 -> $30 Minimum:

Fallout Classics Collection (Fallout 1 + 2 + Tactics)

Fallout 3: GOTY

Fallout: New Vegas - Ultimate

Tier 3 -> $50 Minnimum:

Dishonored: GOTY

Skyrim: Legendary

20% off Gamersgate coupon

Way too much DLC... Bethesda uses the razors model. Give away the base game, stick it to them on the DLC.

On the other hand, WGN has a great system that's very easy to use. If you follow the links that are very simply presented on one page you almost can't go wrong. No complaints from me there.
I've gotten less than half the games I'm entitled to from WGN. My emails, following WGN's guidelines, have gone unanswered.

It is a better system than the rest of the key-for-vote offers, but it is not perfect.

Maybe things have changed. I had problems with some of the first games that made it onto Steam.
I still has problems.

 
I've gotten less than half the games I'm entitled to from WGN. My emails, following WGN's guidelines, have gone unanswered.

It is a better system than the rest of the key-for-vote offers, but it is not perfect.
Okay, now I'm a little nervous. I don't keep track of that stuff and just get my key whenever I get an email or someone says "hey, go get your key!" I just can't be asked to remember all of that.

Now I think I'm going to have to go look.

 
Fallout new Vegas ultimate edition needs to hit 5 bucks again if steam wants me to pay gaben bucks to play it. Otherwise I'll deal with not experiencing another 100 hours of what looks exactly like fallout 3 but in a different setting.
Fallout: NV Ultimate does a MUCH-MUCH better job w/ narrative, story-telling, writing, prose + options galore for choices. Bethesda just can't even touch Obsidian, in terms of this stuff - Bethesda never has and probably never will, TBH.

Fallout 3 just had the insane fresh-ness b/c it set the blueprint of how AAA-developed Fallout in the modern-era should work. Plus, exploring that destroyed East Coast was fantastic. That game was amazing.

Both are fantastic, each in their own ways.

And they are both bloody time-sinks - even more so w/ their Complete Editions (Ultimate for New Vegas; GOTY for FO3).

Most people should've (who were PC gamers then) should've at the latest bought them both at $5 last year - if they actually didn't own them already, for some bloody reason. The amount of hours, mods, and things out there for these 2 games are ridiculous. The "Bang for your buck" per play-through for these games is insane.

 
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if you get it from gamefly w/the 20% off coupon it's like 5.30
Even if you spent the extra 30 cents there - WORTH every freaking extra penny.

The quality of content + amount of content in FO:NV Ultimate is insane per playthrough (over 100 hours for me), as I stated above some 2 posts up.

Old World Blues is one of my favorite DLC's of all time.

 
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fuck ing console peasants.

Way too much DLC... Bethesda uses the razors model. Give away the base game, stick it to them on the DLC.
Ah, yes - the good old BioWare model. :D

So - it probably should have more base-games in lower tiers; and then DLC's would either be split across tiers or grouped together in higher tiers. ;)

 
Fallout: NV Ultimate does a MUCH-MUCH better job w/ narrative, story-telling, writing, prose + options galore for choices. Bethesda just can't even touch Obsidian, in terms of this stuff - Bethesda never has and probably never will, TBH.

Fallout 3 just had the insane fresh-ness b/c it set the blueprint of how AAA-developed Fallout in the modern-era should work. Plus, exploring that destroyed East Coast was fantastic. That game was amazing.

Both are fantastic, each in their own ways.

And they are both bloody time-sinks - even more so w/ their Complete Editions (Ultimate for New Vegas; GOTY for FO3).

Most people should've (who were PC gamers then) should've at the latest bought them both at $5 last year - if they actually didn't own them already, for some bloody reason. The amount of hours, mods, and things out there for these 2 games are ridiculous. The "Bang for your buck" per play-through for these games is insane.
Are the base games alone worth it? I only have $5.70 in GMG credit.

 
Are the base games alone worth it? I only have $5.70 in GMG credit.
Why not just get one or the other for now? It's either going to go in your backlog or by the time you thoroughly play it there will be another sale where you can snag the one your missing.

 
Are the base games alone worth it? I only have $5.70 in GMG credit.
Both "No" and "Yes."

Obviously, they're both for different reasons.

Let me explain.

"NO" - b/c Bethesda and Zenimax gouge the living hell out of base game-owners.

You're honestly better off if you own nothing - if there's a Complete Edition out there, just buy Complete Edition to get it ALL at once.

Bethesda + Zenimax make base-game owners spend MORE for buying DLC's separately as opposed to buying a Complete Edition, if you were to buy the DLC's piece-by-piece.

Base game-owners who need ALL of the DLC's only, they basically do better just buying Complete Edition b/c the percent-off for that tops buying DLC's piece-by-piece - making it cheaper to buy Complete Ed as opposed to buying DLC's piece-by-piece (as you need them). And since Steam (for most games) doesn't give extra base-game keys out for buying a base-game you already own when you decide to also buy a Complete Ed - you get royally screwed.

This is situation I was in w/ Dishonored - I already had Dishonored base-game; and then basically had to buy Dishonored: GOTY Edition to basically just get all of the DLC's.

If you've already bought base-game; and either at least one DLC - well, you really get boned here!!

This is situation I'm in w/ Skyrim - I own Skyrim base-game + Dragonborn DLC; I'm only missing Hearthfire + Dawnguard DLC's.

"YES" - b/c both FO3 + FO:NV base-games each will give you at least 30-50 hours or more per play-through.

Personally, I think you should leans towards "NO" - b/c Bethesda + Obsidian have provided some definitely worthwhile DLC's that are good + worthwhile time-sinks for even DLC's. These are games that you should go Complete Ed on, IMHO.

 
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ftfy

FFS buy the complete versions.
THIS.

GameFly looks like the best way to go currently:

Buy FO3: GOTY and/or FO:NV Ultimate + use the 20% off coupon JUL20OFF.

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Hmmmm....

GameFly doesn't list if FO3: GOTY is a Steam-version or not, which might matter to many of you. Thatt game currently requires G4WL no matter where you buy it on PC, anyways - it hasn't been switched to Steamworks-only 100%, unfortunately - and who knows if BethSoft will do so. Anyone know?

FO:NV Ultimate requires Steam on PC everywhere period.

 
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Alright sounds like I'll wait longer, till I can get some other time. Thanks.
Since ESO been costing Zenimax a fortune and basically bombed, I don't think we'll see much 75% off sales on their Complete Editions for their popular newer titles.

They been doing a lot of 66% off Complete Ed's + 50% off DLC's piece-by-piece for their main popular series of games - i.e. see Dishonored; Fallout 3 + Fallout: NV; and Skyrim.

GameFly's deal on FO:NV Ultimate for $5.30 after JUL20OFF coupon is the best deal I've seen on that in quite some time.

 
anyone played Volt or Grimind before?  What's your take on either one?  Friend giving away 2 keys and let me take first dip.  Try to figure out which one is more fun (I am not very good with platforming)

 
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