Amazon Warehouse Deals Thread XIV

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Amazon has some great warehouse deals, and most of their used games are in like new condition (condition listed can be acceptable, good, very good, like new, or new). Please post specific deals you find via Warehouse deals in this thread. Check latest posts for the newest deals, or click the link below.

Links:

Amazon Warehouse Deals Storefront - I usually go here just to check out things.

"Just Arrived" Video Games
**There is no guarantee how long these will be in stock, so if you see something, better grab it fast**

Link To Items By Price:

$0-$24 Deals
$25-$49 Deals
$50-$99 Deals
$100-$199 Deals
$200-$499 Deals


Browse Games by Console:

Current Gen:

:wiiu: Wii U

:ps4: PS4

:xb1: Xbox One

:vita: PS Vita

:3ds: Nintendo 3DS

Last Gen:

:psp: Sony PSP

:360: Xbox 360

:wii: Wii

:ps3: PS3


F.A.Q's

What is Amazon Warehouse Deals?
From Amazon: Get deep discounts on open-box, like-new, refurbished, or used products that are in good condition but do not meet Amazon.com's rigorous standards as "new".

Warehouse Deals is part of amazon that has open box, new but with damaged packaging product aka "dinger" and trade ins in generally like new condition. They are considered 3rd party by affiliation and as such the "Amazon Warehouse Deals" distinction but are still part of Amazon.

What is AmazonSmile?
From Amazon: AmazonSmile is a simple and automatic way for you to support your favorite charitable organization every time you shop, at no cost to you. When you shop at smile.amazon.com, you’ll find the exact same low prices, vast selection and convenient shopping experience as Amazon.com, with the added bonus that Amazon will donate a portion of the purchase price to your favorite charitable organization. You can choose from nearly one million organizations to support.

For more information follow the link below:

About AmazonSmile

Is the Amazon Warehouse Deals return policy the same as Amazon's return policy?
Yes! All purchases are eligible for Amazon customer service and 30 day return policy.

I'm using the games sort by console link, and the games will not sort by price properly. What is wrong?
You aren't doing anything wrong, the sort by price feature on Amazon is broken during restocks and or when pricing algorithm goes haywire. During those times, prices don't adjust and assimilate with the current inventory quickly enough to show the sorting as such

I'm waiting for a ps4, xb1, 360, ps3, 3ds, or PS Vita to pop up.. What time do they usually appear?
They can show up any time, the best way to find it is have the item tabbed on your browser, and download an auto refresh app and frequently check it, and or set alerts... Sometimes they will not pop up on amazon warehouse deals storefront, you will need to check the "used" section of the item

Why did all the prices of games randomly jump up?
Games on warehouse deals generally go on a cycle. They will get extremely low, great deals.. Then they will jump back up and restart the cycle of falling in price again.

I have a gaming credit and/or an Amazon gift card. Can both of these be applied to Warehouse Deals orders?
Gift cards can be applied to orders made on warehouse deals, however video game credit is only good for items shipped and sold by "amazon.com", warehouse deals does not count as this.

What was Penny Deals?
In early September of 2011, tons of newer release, more expensive games popped up for 1 penny each. Many CAG members placed orders, expecting them to get cancelled. Some were cancelled, however many CAGS got a large amount of games for a penny each. There has been no confirmation what exactly happened and why these games were sold for a penny.

What is this "glitch deals" that I keep hearing about in this thread?

On August 7th, 2014, AWD glitched out similar to how it did around penny deals, except lot of stuff went for cheap instead for a penny. The pricing algorithm went haywire and in the process lot of stuff went for cheap across the AWD spectrum from games to iphones to tablets and everything else in between. The "glitch deal" lasted for maybe a couple of hours and fellow CAGs that were around during that time made out like a bandit. Below is the timeline leading up to the night and the deals that went down on that night.

August 5th - 12:20 pm post 8532

:xb1: Ryse $7.14

August 5th - 2:35 pm post 8541

:ps3: PlayStation 3 80GB Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Bundle (A) $44.10 :hot:
:ps3: PS3 Little Big Planet 2 Special Edition (A) $2.78 :hot:
:ps3: Doom 3 BFG Edition (G) $2.67 :hot:

:ps2: Shadow Hearts (A) $7.xx

:gc: Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (G) $14.12 :hot:

:3ds: Epic Mickey: Power of Illusion (G) $5.47 (LN) $6.15

:360: Call of Duty: Ghost Hardened Edition $7.64
:360: Halo 4 Limited Edition (A) $7.07
:360: Marvel Ultimate Alliance Gold Edition (G) $19.19 :hot:
:360: Max Payne 3 (A) $1.30

August 6th - 12:06 am Post 8628

:ps3: PS3 500 GB Assassin's Creed III Bundle (G) $99.69 :hot:

:360: Battlefield 4 (A) $3.98

August 7th - 3:18 am Post 8709 (The Epic Night)

Borderlands Loot Chest G for sub $30

:ps4: Assassin's Creed IV Black Flag Limited Edition $13-(LN) $15

:ps4: COD: Ghosts Prestige (VG) $10

:ps4: Tomb Raider $8

:ps3: ACIII 500GB PS3 (LN) $111.88
:ps3: 80Gb Motorstorm bundle $90-$105
:ps3: 80GB Metal Gear Solid 4 (G) $46.43
:ps3: PS3 320gb Uncharted Bundle $38.64

:ps3: FFXIII-2 CE G $19.80
:ps3: Socom 4 Full Deployment $17.66
:ps3: God of War III Ultimate (A) 14.28 (LN) $15.XX
:ps3: AC Brotherhood CE $12
:ps3: Batman Arkham Origins CE (G) $10.53
:ps3: Borderlands 2 Deluxe Valut Hunter Edition $9.xx
:ps3: Max Payne 3 Special Edition $9-10
:ps3: Tron CE $8.XX
:ps3: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow (Limited Edition) (G) $7.20-$7.66
:ps3: DC Online CE (Batman Statue) $6.xx
:ps3: Tomb Raider CE $6
:ps3: Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion 5th Anniversary Edition G $5.06
:ps3: Lord of the Rings War in the North CE $3
:ps3: Tony Hawk Ride $3

:ps3: Dark Souls II Black Armor Edition (A) $16.44
:ps3: Disney Infinity $7
:ps3: Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations (Limited) (LN) $6.55
:ps3: Cross Edge $5.92-$6.66
:ps3: God of War Ascension (LN) $5.90
:ps3: Metro Last Light Limited (LN) $5.51
:ps3: DJ Hero $5
:ps3: Dynasty Warriors Gundam 2 A $3.96
:ps3: Cabela's African Adventures (LN) $3.67
:ps3: Yaiba Ninja Gaiden Z LN $3.48
:ps3: Marvel Vs Capcom 3 (LN) $3.02
:ps3: Heavenly Sword (A) $3.xx
:ps3: Dynasty Warriors 6 $2.87
:ps3: Dead Space (LN) $2.60
:ps3: Kingdoms of Amalur Reckoning $2.55
:ps3: Tomb Raider $2.19 $2.53
:ps3: Madden 25 $2.xx
:ps3: Dead Island $2.XX
:ps3: Medieval Moves: Deadmund's Quest $1.56
:ps3: Mass Effect 2 (A) 1.23 (LN) 1.48
:ps3: Infamous $1.XX
:ps3: Aliens $1.XX

:ps2: Shadow Hearts (G) $8.24
:ps2: Samurai Western $3.40
:ps2: Gungrave (G) $3
:ps2: Xenosaga $2.38
:ps2: Harvest Moon: Save the Homeland $2.38
:ps2: Capcom Fighting Evolution $2.07
:ps2: Maximo vs Army of Zin $1.94
:ps2: Onimusha 2: Samurai's Destiny $1.14
:ps2: Warriors of Might and Magic $.95
:ps2: Silent Scope 3 $0.89

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Grand Theft Auto: Collector's Edition (G) $3.49

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Legend of Mana $7-$8.47
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Star Ocean: The Second Story $6.XX-$7.69
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Marvel Vs. Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes (G) 12.09
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The Legend of Dragoon 5.38
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Parasite Eve 2 (A) $5.19 (LN) $6.23
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Parasite Eve $4.61-$X.XX
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Metal Gear Solid $3.90
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Wild Arms 2 $3.75-$4.00
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Resident Evil 2 $3.62-$4.62
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Evil Zone $1.86
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Monopoly $0.83

:psp: PSP bundles for $24
:psp: Warriors of The Lost Empire 1.90

:wiiu: ZombiU LN $6.98
:wiiu: Assassin Creed IV Black Flag VG $3.02 (LN) $3.19
:wiiu: Mass Effect 3 (LN) 2.77
:wiiu: Batman Arkham City: Armored Edition (LN) $2.25
:wiiu: Need for Speed $2
:wiiu: Fifa 13 $2
:wiiu: Scribblenauts Unlimited $2

:wii: Metroid Prime Trilogy $10-15

:gc: Pokemon Colosseum (LN) $20.83
:gc: Pikmin $6.17-$7.40
:gc: Resident Evil 0 $2.23-$2.38

:ds: Nintendo DS Electric Blue and Animal Crossing Wild World Bundle $12
:ds: Tecmo bowl kick off (LN) $2.65
:ds: Rayman (LN) $0.97

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Final Fantasy Tactics Advance $8

:xb1: COD: Ghosts Prestige (VG) $42
:xb1: Forza 5 LE $9-$10
:xb1: Forza day one $7.xx (LN) $8.xx
:xb1: Ryse Day One $7.77
:xb1: Tomb Raider Defenitive Edition Art Book Packaging $6.91
:xb1: Tomb Raider $6 - $10+

:360: Xbox 360 Resident Evil 5 Elite Red Console $70-$80
:360: 250GB Holiday Bundle $20
:360: Consoles $20-$23
:360: xbox360 Arcade Edition $12 (LN) $14
:360: Kinect Sensor with Adventures (Refurbished) $7.77-$8.26

:360: BioShock Infinite: Ultimate Songbird Edition $60-(LN) $71.34
:360: MK9 Tournament Edition $25
:360: BlOps 2 Care Package $20
:360: Game of Thrones Art Book Bundle (LN) $11.94
:360: Bioshock Infinite Premium $9
:360: Payday 2 CE $9.xx
:360: Borderlands 2 Deluxe G $8.72
:360: Forza Horizon Limited Edition $8
:360: Alan Wake CE $8.xx (LN) $9.77
:360: Batman Arkham origins Collectors Edition $7.90
:360: CoD: MW3 Hardened Edition (LN) $6.35
:360: Max Payne 3 Special Edition $6.xx-$7.xx $8.17
:360: Splinter Cell Conviction CE LN $6.03
:360: Street Fighter 4 Collector's Edition (G) $6.70-8
:360: Resident Evil 6 Archives (A) $5.92
:360: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 Hardened Edition (A) $5.30:
:360: Skylanders SWAP Force Starter Pack LN $5.09
:360: COD: Black Ops Hardened Edition $4.xx
:360: Deus Ex Human Rev Augmented Ed. $4.xx
:360: Defiance Collector Edition $4.xx (LN) $5.55
:360: Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion CE (LN) $3.97
:360: Absolution Professional Edition $3.xx
:360: Perfect Dark Zero LE $1.xx (LN) $1.20

:360: Bioshock Infinite $6
:360: onechanbara: Bikini Squad (LN) $4.50 $4.79
:360: Battlefield 4 $4.xx
:360: Spec Ops: The Line LN $3.92
:360: EDF 2017 $3.08
:360: Batman Arkham City (LN) $2.85
:360: Little League World Series 2010 $2.82
:360: Madden 25 $2.79-$3.44
:360: The Last Remnant $2.72
:360: Gears of War: Judgment (A) 2.47
:360: XCOM EU (LN) $2.15
:360: Left 4 Dead $2.xx
:360: Aliens: Colonial Marines $2
:360: Rage 360 (LN) $1.92
:360: DoA5 $1.88
:360: Defiance (LN) $1.80
:360: Battlefield 3 LE $1.72
:360: Assassin's Creed 2 (LN) $1.50
:360: Prince of Persia LN $1.32
:360: Kinect Sports Season 2 $1.xx
:360: Dead or Alive 5 $1.xx

:xbox: Panzer Dragoon Orta (LN) $9
:xbox: Call of Cthulhu (LN) $9

:xbox: Halo 2 Limited Edition $5-$6
:xbox: Star Wars KOTOR 2 (LN) $4.76
:xbox: Monopoly Party $0.90

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Marvel Vs. Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes $5.77

Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition (VG Black 32GB $214.55 | VG White 32GB $261.87)
Apple iPad (3rd gen 16GB Verizon 4G White) LN 166.72
Dell Venue 8 Pro $126
Nexus 7 (2013) 32GB VG $114.84
Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 White 7in LN $74+
Iphone 4s 64gb @ $74
Lenovo Ideapad (VG) $38.67
10" Dell Windows 8 tab $38
Samsung Galaxy Tab (AT&T) $15-$20
16gb iphone 3 $10
HTC Droid Eris Phone (Verizon Wireless, Phone Only, No Service) (G) $5.26

What states does Amazon charge sales tax?
Items sold by Amazon.com LLC, or its subsidiaries, and shipped to destinations in the following states are subject to tax:

Arizona
California
Connecticut

Florida
Georgia
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky

Maryland

Massachusetts
Nevada
New Jersey
New York
North Carolina
North Dakota
Pennsylvania
Tennessee
Texas
Virginia
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin

Note: No sales tax is charged when purchasing gift cards; however, purchases paid for with gift cards may be subject to tax.

What do you mean by a "dinger"?
Dinger = Item is new but the packaging is damaged in some way or form.

These are speculative guesses at best going by descritption of any given item and also taking into account the length of time an item has been out since its release. Shorter the span of time from release of a game or console, better the chance of scoring a new item with damaged packaging aka "dinger".

AWD product description says "Factory Sealed", is this item new?
First and foremost, AWD sells used / open box items so in their terms it has been sealed / resealed at an Amazon Warehouse and hence the "Factory Sealed" part so no it isn't necessarily new. It isn't necessarily new because it could go one of two ways:

1. It was traded in / open box return / test unit that was resealed at an Amazon warehouse facility.
2. It was a dinger (new with damaged packaging and with seals intact).

What condition are products from Warehouse Deals generally in?
First and foremost all games from AWD are considered used unless specified as new. Usually, games are re-shrinked wrap and depending on condition they can be perfect / brand new, brand new with damaged packaging aka "dinger" to just a game in a generic case. AWD has 5 condition criteria for their listings and they are:

New: Just like it sounds. A brand-new, unused, unopened video game in perfect condition in its original packaging and with all original packaging materials included.

Like New: An apparently unopened video game in perfect condition (although it may be out of its original wrapping). The box and item are pristine, with no signs of wear. Suitable for presenting as a gift. Activation codes for bonus online content may be missing or expired. Product may not include downloadable content.

Very Good: A well-cared-for video game that has been played but remains in great condition. The game and its original packaging are complete and slightly worn, but unmarked and undamaged. Activation codes for bonus online content may be missing or expired. Product may not include downloadable content.

Good: The video game shows wear from consistent use, but remains in good condition. There may be clear external signs of wear and damage to the original packaging or instructions, but the game plays perfectly. The video game may have identification markings from its owner. Activation codes for bonus online content may be missing or expired. Product may not include downloadable content.

Acceptable: The video game is fairly worn, but it continues to work perfectly. The box and instructions may be missing or damaged. The video game may have identification markings from its owner. Sellers are required to note whether the box or instructions are missing in the condition notes field for the item. Activation codes for bonus online content may be missing or expired. Product may not include downloadable content.

Any game I have personally ever bought in good or above condition has been in near mint condition. Acceptable ones have been a gamble. Getting DLC with games has also been a gamble and since AWD games are considered used, don't expect unused DLC even though there will be occassions where they may come unused. In regards to DLC, ymmv. Conditon wise, some people have reported that games were scratched with stickers on the insert. Consoles are also usually reported in like new or new condition with box damage. Rarely, a console may be missing a key component such as a power brick. Games listed in "acceptable" condition likely have very beaten up cases, or are missing cases and inserts, and are in not so great condition, but generally have a working game disc. Consoles listed in "acceptable" conditon can be either new in damaged packaging and or a pure gamble in what conditon they will truly be in along with what is included in the box depending on the time frame from release of the console.

Here is an example of a like new handheld (PS Vita) - Thanks Slixshot
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JoNLqd0lqk[/youtube]

Previous Threads:

I:http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256610
II:http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7717783#post7717783
III:http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=291329 - The penny deals craziness
IV:http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=303172
V:http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=313299
VI:http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325923
VII:http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/307758-amazon-warehouse-deals-thread-vii/
VIII: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/318906-amazon-warehouse-deals-thread-viii/
IX: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/322143-amazon-warehouse-deals-thread-ix/
X:http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/326957-amazon-warehouse-deals-thread-x/
XI:http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/328789-amazon-warehouse-deals-thread-xi/

XII:http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/329928-amazon-warehouse-deals-thread-xii/

XIII:https://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/334216-amazon-warehouse-deals-thread-xiii/

Lastly, credit for creating and maintaining previous threads and a huge thanks to the one and only "The AWD Guy" poker360. :bow:

 
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If you're going to buy a pre-built, buy the i3 Alienware alpha. It can be had on AWD for like, $400. Dell had them $400 new as well. They're not much bigger than a Wii and you can add another 4GB RAM for $30. It also comes with the windows license and a 360 controller. I have one set to only run Windows. It sits comfortably on my entertainment center and it's loaded up with a few games and a ton of emulator/roms.

People say you can build one better for $400, but you can't. Not in that small of a size (it is ridiculously tiny), with a windows license, core i processor, etc.

I work with a guy who swears by PC building and even he says the i3 Alpha, for what you pay, is a fantastic deal.

The only caveat is its GPU is not upgradable. It runs a custom 860M/750Ti so it's more powerful than an x1/ps4 at the moment, but it's not something extremely future proof on games in 2-3 years.

However, for the price you can't beat it. That's what I'm using and just gradually getting the parts I need to build mine as they show up on sale.

But yeah...if you want anything other than that, I say build.
I'm thinking of eventually getting one. I love the price and form factor
 
Yeah it seems to be getting worse how does a LN item not have the item lol
edit: got my money back but I am more frustrated on the warehouse workers who don't check and just put stuff in
It sucks. I dont like complaining to amazon too much .. They seem to flag your account when you complain too much so i avoid issues with them so i dont shop from amazon warehouse anymore.

Edit: i was stupid enough to buy a iphone 6 plus unlock from a seller on amazon with it being fulfilled by amazon.. And i got send a fricken chinese iphone 6 case from them.. Took me awhile to convince them that they screwed up my order had to talk to a specialist. I learned my lesson and now know i should and will have to record every package i recieve from amazon..
 
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It sucks. I dont like complaining to amazon too much .. They seem to flag your account when you complain too much so i avoid issues with them so i dont shop from amazon warehouse anymore.

Edit: i was stupid enough to buy a iphone 6 plus unlock from a seller on amazon with it being fulfilled by amazon.. And i got send a fricken chinese iphone 6 case from them.. Took me awhile to convince them that they screwed up my order had to talk to a specialist. I learned my lesson and now know i should and will have to record every package i recieve from amazon..
I rarely do even when I got my 2 xbox 360's they were both missing controllers I didn't complain but after this I had to tell them to what is going on with their warehouse, it seems they have quality control issues

 
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It's been my understanding that the i5 wouldn't limit any of the actual gaming, just multitasking and using it for other things.
Your assuming all I5s are equal, they are not. That specific chip is part of their low power range. It cannot hyperthread, and is designed to run economically. Lower power = lower performance. With the alienware alphas you are sacrificing a lot of performance to squeeze it into a tiny box. If the size isnt an issue, spend a few hundred more and get a real PC. A 2gb 860M is not going to be maxing games, add in a i5 T chip and it probably wont be running games on medium by the end of the year.

Maybe im just a PC Master Race snob, but the few alphas ive messed about with, have been VERY disappointing. I honestly wouldnt touch one with a bargepole. You could get a half decent gaming PC for a little more, that will last a whole lot longer, with a real graphics card and CPU.

 
Your assuming all I5s are equal, they are not. That specific chip is part of their low power range. It cannot hyperthread, and is designed to run economically. Lower power = lower performance. With the alienware alphas you are sacrificing a lot of performance to squeeze it into a tiny box. If the size isnt an issue, spend a few hundred more and get a real PC. A 2gb 860M is not going to be maxing games, add in a i5 T chip and it probably wont be running games on medium by the end of the year.

Maybe im just a PC Master Race snob, but the few alphas ive messed about with, have been VERY disappointing. I honestly wouldnt touch one with a bargepole. You could get a half decent gaming PC for a little more, that will last a whole lot longer, with a real graphics card and CPU.
The i5's are fine in those, especially if you're not looking to max out the graphics and want the form factor.

I'll build one later on the way I want, but if you want one on your entertainment center you can't do much better for the price.

I certainly wouldn't put a huge PC tower in my living room but that's personal preference. Once I build a PC the alpha will be retired to a plex/streaming/emulator box
 
The i5's are fine in those, especially if you're not looking to max out the graphics and want the form factor.

I'll build one later on the way I want, but if you want one on your entertainment center you can't do much better for the price.

I certainly wouldn't put a huge PC tower in my living room but that's personal preference. Once I build a PC the alpha will be retired to a plex/streaming/emulator box
You can do form factor with any cpu. Plenty of cases are smaller, and will allow you to do a form factor build.

 
You can do form factor with any cpu. Plenty of cases are smaller, and will allow you to do a form factor build.
Not smaller or equal size of an Alpha. And not for less than $400. Even /r/buildapc has said the i3 is the only one worth picking up as it's a good bang for the buck. Have you seen it? The thing's seriously impressive for how well it's put together.

There have been mini-ATX builds, but they still end up being quite a bit bigger. They also don't come with the windows license or a wireless 360 controller.

I'm not denying you can't build a better PC for a little bit more money, you can. But not with the same quality materials. And not with an official OS license. Yeah, you could pirate it or get it from the subreddit that sells them for $20, but they're not official licenses that are legally available.

The biggest drawback on the Alpha is the GPU being the only non-upgradable thing. Everything else can be upgraded.

Plus you get that Alien head that glows. That's worth an extra $50 /s
 
That's not the New 3DSXL. That's the old model.

EDIT: As a side thought, it really is amazing how nobody at Nintendo foresaw how confusing their naming of the "New 3DS" would be. I mean, really. It's even worse than the XBOX One/XBOX Original naming kerfuffle.

 
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That's not the New 3DSXL. That's the old model.

EDIT: As a side thought, it really is amazing how nobody at Nintendo foresaw how confusing their naming of the "New 3DS" would be. I mean, really. It's even worse than the XBOX One/XBOX Original naming kerfuffle.
Ya, you'd think they would have learned with the whole Wii / WiiU naming issues.

 

Ya, you'd think they would have learned with the whole Wii / WiiU naming issues.
Honestly, I don't even think Wii U is a confusing name. Nondescript, and unoriginal, sure. But at least the "U" doesn't have multiple meanings that could be interpreted in a handful of different ways. You can at least describe to someone unfamiliar with Nintendo's consoles that the "U" directly designates a different console, without any other interpretations confusing the message. But "New" in this case signifies not only a different console, but also the state of ownership of the console, as well as how long you've had the console, and even how long the console has been available on the market.

Wii U is not even comparable to this level of utter failure of common sense.

 
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I just ordered this blu-ray player (G) for $21.03 from AWD, so I don't know if that means there may be another price glitch coming up or if I simply got lucky (though "lucky" is subjective - it has mediocre reviews, but I'm just buying it for my parents, who don't have a simple blu-ray player in their home).

 
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Honestly, I don't even think Wii U is a confusing name. Nondescript, and unoriginal, sure. But at least the "U" doesn't have multiple meanings that could be interpreted in a handful of different ways. You can at least describe to someone unfamiliar with Nintendo's consoles that the "U" directly designates a different console, without any other interpretations confusing the message. But "New" in this case signifies not only a different console, but also the state of ownership of the console, as well as how long you've had the console, and even how long the console has been available on the market.

Wii U is not even comparable to this level of utter failure of common sense.
There were anecdotal stories on some gaming podcasts of people not realizing that the WiiU was a different system and thinking it was just a tablet for the Wii.

 
Honestly, I don't even think Wii U is a confusing name. Nondescript, and unoriginal, sure. But at least the "U" doesn't have multiple meanings that could be interpreted in a handful of different ways. You can at least describe to someone unfamiliar with Nintendo's consoles that the "U" directly designates a different console, without any other interpretations confusing the message. But "New" in this case signifies not only a different console, but also the state of ownership of the console, as well as how long you've had the console, and even how long the console has been available on the market.

Wii U is not even comparable to this level of utter failure of common sense.
yeah the Wii/Wii U isn't bad at all.

If Nintendo made the Wii U first, then made the Wii..

Sony hasn't screwed that up (yet) Maybe they will pull a MS and go from the PS4 to the PS6.

 
There were anecdotal stories on some gaming podcasts of people not realizing that the WiiU was a different system and thinking it was just a tablet for the Wii.
True. I had forgotten about that. But even still, I don't think it's quite so bad. I know the difference between the Wii and the Wii U. I know the difference between the 3DSXL and the New 3DSXL. But when someone says the words "Wii U," I know for sure what console they're talking about. When someone says "New 3DSXL," I still have to gather from context which console they're actually talking about. In my mind, that's a big difference.

 
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True. I had forgotten about that. But even still, I don't think it's quite so bad. I know the difference between the Wii and the Wii U. I know the difference between the 3DSXL and the New 3DSXL. But when someone says the words "Wii U," I know for sure what console they're talking about. When someone says "New 3DSXL," I still have to gather from context which console they're actually talking about. In my mind, that's a big difference.
No disagreement from me that 3DSXL and N3DSXL are too similar, I was just pointing out that Nintendo should know better because they already had a naming issue in the past.

 
Not smaller or equal size of an Alpha. And not for less than $400. Even /r/buildapc has said the i3 is the only one worth picking up as it's a good bang for the buck. Have you seen it? The thing's seriously impressive for how well it's put together.

There have been mini-ATX builds, but they still end up being quite a bit bigger. They also don't come with the windows license or a wireless 360 controller.

I'm not denying you can't build a better PC for a little bit more money, you can. But not with the same quality materials. And not with an official OS license. Yeah, you could pirate it or get it from the subreddit that sells them for $20, but they're not official licenses that are legally available.

The biggest drawback on the Alpha is the GPU being the only non-upgradable thing. Everything else can be upgraded.

Plus you get that Alien head that glows. That's worth an extra $50 /s
I've seeen the i5 model around $510ish.

 
I just ordered this blu-ray player (G) for $21.03 from AWD, so I don't know if that means there may be another price glitch coming up or if I simply got lucky (though "lucky" is subjective - it has mediocre reviews, but I'm just buying it for my parents, who don't have a simple blu-ray player in their home).
I have the old version that doesnt have 3D/Wifi. Very solid player and functional, can put movies on it (USB/External/Card Reader) and plays with subs if I have them. Since yours has Netflix support, for $20 its a steal.. I'll look out for one at $30 myself.

 
Alienware Alpha i3 4GB $393.74

Almost kept my order but can't bring myself to spend $ on another HTPC, esp when I just built one  :wall:

Size of the Alpha is amazing, esp when you take into account the GPU and cooling fans. Its only 130 watts too so you could use it in the car with an inverter (200+watts to be safe). 

 
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The i5's are fine in those, especially if you're not looking to max out the graphics and want the form factor.

I'll build one later on the way I want, but if you want one on your entertainment center you can't do much better for the price.

I certainly wouldn't put a huge PC tower in my living room but that's personal preference. Once I build a PC the alpha will be retired to a plex/streaming/emulator box
That was exactly what i said, If you must have that form factor, then you have no other choice. But dont expect to do serious gaming on an alpha. They are simply overpowered HTPC's. You do get a lot for your money, but they fall into a void where you dont get enough to really game, and far too much for just a media streamer. Thats why they all miss the mark. I hate to say this, but if you are only looking for a gaming machine, a console is far more bang than these alphas. The fact that they are struggling now to run last gen games like bioshock infinite and Borderlands pre sequel on anything but low for desirable frame rates (60+) should show how non future proof these things are. METRO redux on anything above low is reporting 12 fps. If you arent aiming for minimum 1080p/60, you might as well console.

They were designed to compete with consoles, which they cant really hold up against in gaming quality. You are far better off building a regular PC, and using streaming boxes to game in other rooms if necessary. You also cant put a lot of value on the windows license. With win 10 going to have a free version, and these boxes should be running steamOS or straight linux. I got 3 win 8 keys, straight from M$, for 20$ a piece in an online sale when it first came out (full keys, no TechNet BS). You can get windows for next to nothing if you look. I also find it amusing that they are "upgradable". Sure, stick an i7 in there, and get no gaming benefit. The only part that matters when it comes to upgrading for gaming is fixed, so why even bother.

TLDR, alphas are neat little machines that can lightly game. Great media streamers\HTPC's though in a tiny package.

 
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If you want media streaming though, you could just do that on a PS3/PS4. I've been doing so for the past few years. I stream everything through my home PC over my network.

But anyway.

 
That was exactly what i said, If you must have that form factor, then you have no other choice. But dont expect to do serious gaming on an alpha. They are simply overpowered HTPC's. You do get a lot for your money, but they fall into a void where you dont get enough to really game, and far too much for just a media streamer. Thats why they all miss the mark. I hate to say this, but if you are only looking for a gaming machine, a console is far more bang than these alphas. The fact that they are struggling now to run last gen games like bioshock infinite and Borderlands pre sequel on anything but low for desirable frame rates (60+) should show how non future proof these things are. METRO redux on anything above low is reporting 12 fps. If you arent aiming for minimum 1080p/60, you might as well console.

They were designed to compete with consoles, which they cant really hold up against in gaming quality. You are far better off building a regular PC, and using streaming boxes to game in other rooms if necessary. You also cant put a lot of value on the windows license. With win 10 going to have a free version, and these boxes should be running steamOS or straight linux. I got 3 win 8 keys, straight from M$, for 20$ a piece in an online sale when it first came out (full keys, no TechNet BS). You can get windows for next to nothing if you look. I also find it amusing that they are "upgradable". Sure, stick an i7 in there, and get no gaming benefit. The only part that matters when it comes to upgrading for gaming is fixed, so why even bother.

TLDR, alphas are neat little machines that can lightly game. Great media streamers\HTPC's though in a tiny package.
Something is seriously wrong if it isn't pulling 1080p/60ps on high for TPS. My rMBP has a 650M and it'll run it on 1080p high and get close to 60fps.

It's running alien isolation on high better than current gen, with 45-60fps

As I said I have the consoles too. I know the PCMR guys like to scoff at anything not built from the ground up but, whatever. I'm fine with it for what it is. It's also got complete backwards compatibility of the PC catalog.

Can't see why anyone would upgrade from windows 8.1/10 to SteamOS though. If I could only run Steam I wouldn't have it.
 
Something is seriously wrong if it isn't pulling 1080p/60ps on high for TPS. My rMBP has a 650M and it'll run it on 1080p high and get close to 60fps.

It's running alien isolation on high better than current gen, with 45-60fps

As I said I have the consoles too. I know the PCMR guys like to scoff at anything not built from the ground up but, whatever. I'm fine with it for what it is. It's also got complete backwards compatibility of the PC catalog.

Can't see why anyone would upgrade from windows 8.1/10 to SteamOS though. If I could only run Steam I wouldn't have it.
My main concern was a few people who have been looking for cheap alphas here lately have wanted them for hardcore gaming. The vid cards in these are modified cards, and modified for low power consumption, which hurts performance. With the benches ive been reading (real benches rather than review fluff), TPS averages at 68 fps on low, and dips to 42 on medium with massive tearing even with vsync. On high settings for both TPS and Bioshock infinite, your looking as sub 30 fps, and at that point, you might as well console. But remember, these are last generations games which makes it worse. With METRO only getting around 30 fps on low, good luck getting titles like GTA V, Witcher 3 and the new batman to run well. Doesnt bode well for longevity.

My steamOS comment was because of the concerns with paying extra for windows on a custom build. I was making the point that you dont have to, as linux and steam os are real viable alternatives these days that are free.

Im just trying to make sure that no one buys an alpha expecting the "PC Gaming Experience". You will be disappointed.

 
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Wow, I 1-Clicked this but I'm not sure if I should keep it:

Xbox One Assassin's Creed Unity Bundle
Sold by: Warehouse Deals, Inc
$207.20
Condition: Used - Acceptable - Downloadable content (DLC) or codes for online play may require additional purchase. Item is in original packaging, but packaging has damage. Large scratches on top of item (> 1 in.).
 
Wow, I 1-Clicked this but I'm not sure if I should keep it:

Xbox One Assassin's Creed Unity Bundle
Sold by: Warehouse Deals, Inc
$207.20

Condition: Used - Acceptable - Downloadable content (DLC) or codes for online play may require additional purchase. Item is in original packaging, but packaging has damage. Large scratches on top of item (> 1 in.).
Sounds like a dinger and a great price, even if it's not.
 
Sounds like a dinger and a great price, even if it's not.
The issue is that I don't know when I'd play it since I have such a huge PS4/PS3 backlog. :joystick:

There's also the chance that by the time I'd be up to playing something on XB1 it would be close to this price or slightly higher for a new-condition console or better bundle.

 
The issue is that I don't know when I'd play it since I have such a huge PS4/PS3 backlog. :joystick:

There's also the chance that by the time I'd be up to playing something on XB1 it would be close to this price or slightly higher for a new-condition console or better bundle.
Look at it this way - if you buy now and start getting the games, when you are ready to play on XB1 you will have a huge backlog. Isnt that what we all want, a huge backlog to keep us focused on buying more games?

If you are still not convinced - keep it, if it is a dinger and sell/trade it if it isnt.

 
The issue is that I don't know when I'd play it since I have such a huge PS4/PS3 backlog. :joystick:

There's also the chance that by the time I'd be up to playing something on XB1 it would be close to this price or slightly higher for a new-condition console or better bundle.
As long as the thing works and is complete, you've got yourself a good deal. I'd say hang onto that thing as supposedly XONE's getting more exclusives later this year than PS4 is?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00BGA9WK2/ref=olpOffersSuppressed?ie=UTF8&condition=used&m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&overridePriceSuppression=1&qid=1430333512&shipPromoFilter=1&sr=1-16

A dozen PS4s showed up.

 
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