My tivo messed up and wouldn't record this or burn notice last weekend. By the time I got it fixed I had to wait until last night to catch a rerun. A few points...
[quote name='Soodmeg']Alright walking dead...you are starting to screw up a little bit. This episode was kinda disappointing. Still good but it feels like you are slipping back into your old ways.
Merle has got to stop kung fuing everyone he comes across. That A-Team like shoot out was effing ridiculous. There is a like 5 guys shooting machines guns and no one is hitting anything even though there isnt really any cover around. Didnt know fog reflected bullets so well.
Oscar gets hit by a shotgun from like the other side of the world apparently. I understand..real life shotguns have a range of blah blah blah...Oscar looked like he just got hit by a Barret .50 cal. Oscar is the only one standing behind any cover in-between a bus and a wall. Randomly having Shane walk down the street just so Rick as an excuse not to shot that guy so he can kill Oscar just seemed lazy. I mean...you are already in the middle of a gun fight...just have him get hit walking casually walking across the park with the rest of the group.
I do love how we still get badass Carl. No more crying for him thank god. More Carl taking charge the better.
Lastly, the ending scene would have had a greater impact if there were more than 20 people in the town.
But I still love how the series is turning out this season...hopefully that dont regress.[/QUOTE]Not super impressed by this episode either and I think it's because they don't handle action as well as they should. The shootout was ridiculous. There were smoke grenades involved and little light which would cause confusion, but little cover and some of Woodbury's better fighters were involved. Oscar was standing on the hood of the bus helping others up. He was exposed and up high and definitely in range of the shotgun, but not at an optimum distance. The wound looked like it was supposed to be a slug not buckshot.
I liked the Shane sequence as it show how broken Rick still is and thank god Carl is a little bad ass instead of a whiny Dale killing bitch.
[quote name='Rodimus']Good episode but I have to agree with Soodmeg, the gun fight was ridiculous. It felt like an old G.I. Joe episode shotout. I didn't understand the "Shane look-a-like" thing. The guy was obviously much closer to Rick, but instead shoots at Oscar who seemed like half a football field away. Rick was behind terrible cover (some kinda solor panel thing) It's not like the guy didn't have a clear shot.[/QUOTE]Oscar was a very prime target standing on the hood of the bus. Maybe the guy was focused on keeping people inside the wall as opposed to closest target. With bullets flying things get confusing and these aren't trained soldiers. He was walking down the middle of the road as opposed to firing from cover. They could have put Rick a little more behind cover from him though. I know I'd shoot the guy with the assault rifle shooting at me before I'd shoot the guy scaling a wall.
[quote name='kodave']The writers have had trouble writing the militia members of Woodbury consistently. The majority of them aren't supposed to be highly trained or skilled killers like Rick's group. They're just people with a lot of guns and a high fence which allows them to mow down walkers with ease but perhaps not accuracy. Merle is the only one who can go out in the woods and come back alive, apparently. We've seen Michonne out fight the militia and now Rick's crew did the same. The girl that was going to "train" Andrea is also indicative of how much of a poor shot these people are. Of course, this is somewhat contradicted by the way they successfully encircled a National Guard troops without being noticed, then mowed them all down without that National Guard returning fire once. While there should have been more cover for Rick's gang, the smoke grenades throwing off the Woodbury militia makes a lot of sense. The only thing the Woodbury militia have going for them is blind loyalty to the Governor and larger numbers than Rick + Tyreese's crew, which makes me think this is going to play out like it did in the comic books, especially now that the Governor is unnerved and really off his rocker.[/QUOTE]I think the point is like you said the wall sentries are really mostly untrained and poor shots who have the luxury of big walls to shoot slow walkers. Then there are the "elite guard" if you will, who go on missions outside the walls and are good aim and better fighters. The National Guard take down was kinda iffy too. I know they are expecting trouble from walkers not people, but I know they would be on guard much better than that. Not saying they couldn't have been ambushed and taken out, but they would have put up a better fight.
[quote name='slidecage']man i hope the 2nd part is better... i hope the Governor really flips out now
i love how of the few people they found to be in their town they had an Eye doctor[/QUOTE]Wasn't it the town doctor who treated him? It's a wound in the eye which requires a doctor with trauma knowledge, not an eye doctor.
[quote name='GUNNM']As soon as the black guy went on this trip I knew the writers wouldn't have balls to kill off a main character but some guy whos barely been in three episodes yeah its not part of the comics of someone dying from the main group but they have no problem changing shit around[/QUOTE]I thought that too. I definitely viewed him as a star trek red shirt and once I saw Tyreese I knew it was over for him. How jacked up is that? Should Michonne watch out since another black girl was introduced too? Damn. On the other hand, it didn't feel like time to kill off another main character after the recent drama and they had to suffer some sort of casualty. Badass to see Maggie put one in the brain so he wouldn't turn although I might have left him hoping he would turn and catch the townies off guard.
[quote name='evildeadjedi']I've definitely enjoyed this season more than season 2.
I can't wait to watch the second half!
One other thought.
This show has been an absolute juggernaut in TV ratings. IT IS KILLING IT!
I believe the TWD premiere beat the Mad Men, Hell on Wheels, and Breaking Bad premieres combined.
That's nuts! Not to mention I don't believe it has dipped under 4.7 so far this season, that's just unbelievable.
I'm quite surprised due to the premise of the show. However, it proves come
for the zombies and stay for the people.[/QUOTE]Forget it beating Mad Men, Hell on Wheels (how's that show's ratings, I need to get caught up on it, too), and Breaking Bad combined. It was the number one fall premiere PERIOD even beating network shows which are much more accessible to viewers. You'd be surprised how many people still watch TV over the air or just have the most basic cable. Plus, Dish was still not carrying AMC at the time. Impressive indeed.
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