Black Teen Shot, Killed By Neighborhood Watch
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bad people killing bad people..... should we care
Dumb racist cop-wannabee killed UNARMED teen due to racial profiling.... nothing to care about
Can conservatives be more stupid in trying to link certain events to other events
In that case, hey at least in America blacks slaves were fed, in other places they would have straved... Heck they even had it better then the Israelites...
Dumb racist cop-wannabee killed UNARMED teen due to racial profiling.... nothing to care about
Can conservatives be more stupid in trying to link certain events to other events
In that case, hey at least in America blacks slaves were fed, in other places they would have straved... Heck they even had it better then the Israelites...
The concept is simple. Right now (the statistics been shown already) There are numerous crimes committed by young black teens in particular young black male teens, like there was in this particular area where Zimmerman lived.
Now in America's jails are many young black teens or early 20's. Some are in there for a very long time. Some have committed horrible crimes to people, this miniority given 12% of America is black lets say 6% are male and then under 25 and over 14 lets say 2%. This 2% is committing almost 50% of the crimes.
Now maybe the concept for liberals is a person commits a crime gets caught goes to jail - justice.
Well what if some of this 2% wanted to rob you, and you didn't feel like being robbed that day so you fought back and ended up beaten so bad you couldn't walk again. Is it right that they're inside for 10 years and you cant walk again? In the liberal world perhaps it is.
Well the concept is what if you had a gun, or you could protect yourself. Now after this confrontation you can still walk.
The concept that we gloss over the 2% for whatever agenda, racial barrier or nonsense is not applicable. There's been babies shot in the head, old people beaten for 'fun' veterans killed by this 2% who usually get caught and go to jail. Yet where's the outcry? Oh there cant be none cos they got arrested and sentenced? That's ok then?
It's not ok. So this is where the liberal media's witchhunt falls flat, because it's lack of contempt and focus on these things indicates they think that's fine, rather than focus on how the heck 2% of the population can be responsible for all these things and trying to tackle it.
The woman who Zimmerman helped in his neighborhood. She was upstairs looking out her window as two young black males were looking for ways in, shaking and scared with her two year old in her hand. She called cops who told her to get a weapon and lock herself in the room. They eventually forced entry. All she had was a scissors. They ransacked her house stealing multiple things, apparently tried to get in her sons room which she was in, obviously she had locked it and they ended up nto getting inside this room.
Now this young woman in her own home, was scared shitless and these were young minors or at least one of them was, if they were older maybe burglary would not just be on their mind, maybe even rape, not like gangrape with people in this 2% is too uncommon now is it? So in the end, they maybe get insurance money for the stolen goods if they had insurance. And at some point these two were arrested... but if she had a gun and shot them could you blame her? And if everyone in her position shot people each time could you blame them? Cos many times they just out to burgle, but sometimes they might be out to hurt the person or assault sexually or whatever....but the person isn't able to know what their intention is, are they?
So now lets focus on Zimmerman, people are too caught up in their hate and trashing to step back from that.
Forget Zimmerman as what you view him. Just focus on this 2%. There are numerous stories some i mentioned of this 2% beating people seriously, causing crazy injuries, killing people over sometimes minor disputes like a small insult, or tiny amount of money.
Now if somebody in this 2% is on top of you and beating you, and you have an option to defend yourself, you may take it, especially after your calls for help go unanswered for a sustained period of time in the context of such a situation.
This is why it is foolish to attack Zimmerman. Cos while he made a mistake of not making clear who he was to this kid, he probably genuinly feared for his own life and being just another victim of the 2% while the person becomes just another statistic in a jail, isn't an appealing thought.
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You are either trolling or handicapped... I guess either way I should keep my distance.
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Freaking conservatives. Their policies led to 911, world hunger and global warming. I wish we could throw them all into concentration camps just like FDR did with the Japs. Stupid ninjas.
Not always a fan of Bill but he pretty much nailed it
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2560422134001/president-obama-and-the-race-problem-/?playlist_id=2114913880001
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2560422134001/president-obama-and-the-race-problem-/?playlist_id=2114913880001
http://www.dlas.org/questions-zimmerman-verdict/
These survey questions should be mandatory for anyone weighing in on the subject. If anyone sees any factual problems in it, please let me know.
These survey questions should be mandatory for anyone weighing in on the subject. If anyone sees any factual problems in it, please let me know.
Half those survey questions are completely irrelevant and totally biased. The only pictures that should make any difference are the ones of Zimmerman after the incident and potentially the one of Martin immediately before the incident, pictures of guns, old booking photos, family pictures, have no bearing on the incident. Secondly, whether Zimmerman started a business has no bearing on this incident nor does his racial background, who he took to prom, who he voted for, etc. None of that shit matters, racist attitudes need not be worn on your sleeve. Just because Zimmerman did/was all of those things doesn't mean he wasn't a racist too. But the fact of the matter is, whether or not he was a racist has no bearing on how this incident occurred, he may have started following because he was racist but he didn't shoot him because he was racist, as per the findings of the jury, he shot him because he reasonably feared for his life. He might, and probably is, still a scumbag racist but that wasn't the reason he killed Trayvon.
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Only factual thing i see it says his older brother sent the message about swinging at a bus driver. I believe it was his cousin. But it's well put together. And the lie detector test is interesting, as well as the fact he said on a previous call he didn't want to approach the guy(some other dude suspicious)
The family that Zimmerman helped cancelled their media interview. They didn't want to be on TV praising him as they were scared of the reaction. They've already recieved threats.
Strange lobsided society we've become no?
Sidenote - many anti Zimmerman people boasting about this. And actually delighted they managed to scare the family enough that they wont say anything good about him. WTF. I think im almost done with this whole thing.
Strange lobsided society we've become no?
Sidenote - many anti Zimmerman people boasting about this. And actually delighted they managed to scare the family enough that they wont say anything good about him. WTF. I think im almost done with this whole thing.
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You know, all these righties conservatives complain how "liberals" attack Zimmerman..
Well the truth of the matter is there have been plenty of who we consider LIBERALS actuall defend Zimmerman
However 99.9% of those who would defend Zimmerman and are happy a unarmed black kid was murdered are always conservative, right wing, and/or republicans
Why is that?
Well the truth of the matter is there have been plenty of who we consider LIBERALS actuall defend Zimmerman
However 99.9% of those who would defend Zimmerman and are happy a unarmed black kid was murdered are always conservative, right wing, and/or republicans
Why is that?
The problem with O'Reilly's commentary is that he's talking to his almost entirely white audience, and the function of his remarks is to give reasons against remedies that might require sacrifices from white people. He's saying that the problem isn't anything his audience can help solve; only black people can solve it. So his audience shouldn't be sympathetic to arguments that they ought to be doing more, and should feel free to be critical of black people who aren't doing enough.
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Hey remember that story from awhile back about the mother who claimed that two black teenagers shot her infant dead in an attempted robbery? Remember how all the usual suspects here on CAG and most of right-wing media were claiming that this wasn't getting nearly enough media attention as the TM/GZ shooting and that the story was being covered up by the "liberal media"? Remember how everyone was calling for the heads of the two teenagers who carried out this heinous crime? Weeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllllllll:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/07/24/new-evidence-in-georgia-infants-death-points-to-parents-not-two-black-teens/
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/07/24/new-evidence-in-georgia-infants-death-points-to-parents-not-two-black-teens/
No? Haven't heard of this story before.
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Its only trolling to your kind when it is fact.
Facts have no place in the conservative mindset
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Now now, you do not want people to start bringing facts into this cause that would make you look foolish. Instead stay on topic.
This shows how people, white, black, whatever, believe what the media tells them and jumps to judgement without all, or ANY, evidence.
Just like in the Zimmerman case.
The article is a bit.....goofy though. "The case was repeatedly cited to “prove” that people like George Zimmerman have every right to gun them down black kids, like Trayvon Martin, at will." Really? Kill black kids at will? :^o"When we look at the Zimmerman case and the Baby Santiago case side by side, what we see is how racism plays out in the United States. When a white man openly admitted to shooting and killing an unarmed black teenager, the public immediately jumped to his defense. On the other hand, when two black teenagers were accused of shooting and killing a white child, the public immediately cried out for their executions. Zimmerman was guilty, the two teens may very well be innocent, but public perceptions about these two cases shows that what matters most is the skin color of the accused killers."
The public jumped to GZ's defense? He was guilty? Is this even considered journalism?
"And what of Sherry West? If it turns out that a southern white women did in fact kill her own infant in order to collect some insurance money, will American’s show the same level of vehemence they did when they believed it was two black teens who killed Antonio Santiago? Will they still cry out for execution, or will they see the case differently, if the killer turns out to be middle-aged, white and female, rather than young, black and male?"
Uhhhh, yeah. If the evidence proves the she murdered her baby for insurance money and blamed innocent teenagers, then fry her ass faster than the Colonel's chicken.
What is really perplexing to me is that the accused teenager's Aunt supposedly took police to a pond where a .22 handgun was found. The murder weapon? A murder for hire scenario? WTF? Any judgement should be withheld until all the facts are in. Can we believe anything any of the media tells us?
Yup MSNBC pays Al Sharpton money to work for them. A clear racist, a clear racial profiteer, a guy who refused to apologize after trying to get two white men hung for a rape that didn't happen. A guy who incited riots that led to a jewish man being killed. They edited calls to make Zimmerman seem racist, they totally condemned him as guilty from the get go. Then they release polls showing race relations have gone down, eh i wonder why? Lol Then to top it off they keep repeating these polls as some sort of justification for how they act.
The public completely rushed to destroy Zimmerman because they thought he was white and the kid black, how is that spun to the public rushed to his defense due to his color when it was the fkin opposite? What parallel world are these gimps living in
The public completely rushed to destroy Zimmerman because they thought he was white and the kid black, how is that spun to the public rushed to his defense due to his color when it was the fkin opposite? What parallel world are these gimps living in
What these idiots do is bring up irrelevant comparisons to backup their falsified view that there is an undercurrent of the slavery mindset alive in America today. Lets ignore the comparisons that completely wipe out this view, and use ones that make little sense and try to draw something from them.
People rushed to Zimmerman's defense...who exactly? From what i saw people rushed to destroy him. Hell MSNBC employ Al Sharpton. They pay this guy. A clear racist, proven racist, a guy who profits from perceived racism, a guy who's whole angle is racial anger. Same guy who incited riots that led to a jewish man being killed. And they employ him, they edit convo's to make another guy look a huge racist, spend hours trying to destroy him and create a racial angle. Then release polls showing race relations have gone down, and keep repeating the poll like it vindicates them, gee eh i wonder why race relations have gone down?
They've worked up a bunch of uneducated people into a barrage of ill feeling, joined by the PC brigade who care little for the truth, and this in turn has led to people who see things for what they are, getting further annoyed by all this, and oh race relations are down, ya think?
In what parallel world do people come out and say people rushed to defend Zimmerman because he was white, when people tried to make him white just so they could rush to destroy him. How do you spin the fact that because the kid was black people decided to make it racial and create this old whitey getting away with killing black boys despite no evidence of such a thing, and claim it was the other way around? People made it racial by defending Zimmerman? WTF Are these people for real.
People rushed to Zimmerman's defense...who exactly? From what i saw people rushed to destroy him. Hell MSNBC employ Al Sharpton. They pay this guy. A clear racist, proven racist, a guy who profits from perceived racism, a guy who's whole angle is racial anger. Same guy who incited riots that led to a jewish man being killed. And they employ him, they edit convo's to make another guy look a huge racist, spend hours trying to destroy him and create a racial angle. Then release polls showing race relations have gone down, and keep repeating the poll like it vindicates them, gee eh i wonder why race relations have gone down?
They've worked up a bunch of uneducated people into a barrage of ill feeling, joined by the PC brigade who care little for the truth, and this in turn has led to people who see things for what they are, getting further annoyed by all this, and oh race relations are down, ya think?
In what parallel world do people come out and say people rushed to defend Zimmerman because he was white, when people tried to make him white just so they could rush to destroy him. How do you spin the fact that because the kid was black people decided to make it racial and create this old whitey getting away with killing black boys despite no evidence of such a thing, and claim it was the other way around? People made it racial by defending Zimmerman? WTF Are these people for real.
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Nope but I do remember when I brought up a more comparable story where the alleged "murderer" was not even touched when he defended himself and he was still acquitted.
There is a glaring difference where the white kid was actually doing something wrong in the first place. But I didn't see anyone jumping to his aid that he didn't deserve to die for breaking into cars. No marches in the street saying that the "murderer" should have waited in the house until police came. No speech from Obama saying "that could have been him".
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This juror has come out and said Zimmerman got away with murder I found her comments both bizarre and interesting. She was the only non white juror.. Here's some of what she said
in our hearts we felt he was guilty . . But we had to . . look at the evidence." No kidding?
She went on to say he got away with murder, we just couldn't prove it. I'm not sure if she's genuine or some sort of angle here. She didn't hide her face i believe so since the hate mobs will agree with her i guess she's safe to do that. All in all she's entitled to her opinion, but if the evidence doesn't prove it, how can she be sure of it? Weird.
in our hearts we felt he was guilty . . But we had to . . look at the evidence." No kidding?
She went on to say he got away with murder, we just couldn't prove it. I'm not sure if she's genuine or some sort of angle here. She didn't hide her face i believe so since the hate mobs will agree with her i guess she's safe to do that. All in all she's entitled to her opinion, but if the evidence doesn't prove it, how can she be sure of it? Weird.
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You mean our justice system is subjective? Wat!?
I'm sure if we took a look at the Florida prisoner records we'd find plenty of people convicted with more middling cases.
It makes perfect sense, reasonable doubt.
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You may, but the difference between defending yourself and chasing someone down to murder them seems pretty obvious.
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Lol and the difference between chasing someone and murdering them, and being attacked and defending yourself is quite large too.
Just want a honest answer nothing more nothing less. Don't try to frame it a certain way before answering. Just answer it at face value.
Technically speaking, yes. By pleading self-defense you're making a justification defense which means you're effectively saying that you did kill the person but you were justified in doing so.
But please, by all means, go on with whatever point you plan on making instead of beating around the bush.
outta here.mur·der
/ˈmərdər/
Noun
The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
Verb
Kill (someone) unlawfully and with premeditation.
Technically no, especially when you are acquitted of all charges. He did not murder, he killed in self defense. Who needs words and their definitions though. Murderer sounds much worse!
But regardless all that is pointless, the people who think that Zimmerman started something with Martin all believe Zimmerman is a murderer, and the people who think that Martin attacked Zimmerman all believe that Zimmerman acted in self defense.
Did Zimmerman deserve to get jumped? Probably not. Did Martin deserve to be detained? Absolutely not. Could both have happened? Could neither have happened? With all the evidence the Prosecution presented, you still cannot possibly say you know what happened, which is why he was acquitted.
It is as simple as that. People need to start moving on.
Well on what notion do people presume he tried to detain him?
This guy said in a call to cops about someone else suspicious ''I don't want to approach him''
When following to give instructions, he kept a fair distance.
He PASSED a lie detector test about the incident
It wouldn't look good if you were told by cops to stop following and you then tried to illegally detain someone
It just doesn't add up. It's possible but certainly not proven he tried to find out where this guy had gone. But detain him? Especially somebody quite taller than him? It's simply people's imagination running wild.
This guy said in a call to cops about someone else suspicious ''I don't want to approach him''
When following to give instructions, he kept a fair distance.
He PASSED a lie detector test about the incident
It wouldn't look good if you were told by cops to stop following and you then tried to illegally detain someone
It just doesn't add up. It's possible but certainly not proven he tried to find out where this guy had gone. But detain him? Especially somebody quite taller than him? It's simply people's imagination running wild.
I wasn't aware the courts used Webster's Dictionary for charging people with crimes. All these years of law school they taught me to rely on statutory and common law, are you telling me they were wrong?!?!
Even someone with half a brain would realize there's a problem with your definition. PREMEDITATION is not the only element of the crime of murder. In most jurisdictions it's not even a required element for first degree murder provided that the murder occurred during the commission of a violent felony. The defining characteristic of 2nd degree murder in most jurisdictions is that it is a murder that occurs without the element of premeditation. So please, by all means regale us with your broad knowledge of copying and pasting dictionary definitions as a debate tactic instead of perhaps deferring to someone who has actual law training. Thanks for arguing for the sake of arguing.
So the Webster's Dictionary definition is wrong? All people should speak in terms as defined by statutory/common law? C'mon man, you know people are using the term murderer because of its negative connotation. Much like the term "stalk". The more I learn about him, the more I like Zimmerman. He was trying to help his community in an active way. In his video detailing of that night, when TM was on top of him , he said he cried for help, someone opened a door and said "I'll call 911". He screamed "NOOO!!!Help me now!" Is that how we want our community to help? Hold up in their houses waiting for many times overtaxed police/fire units to show up?
So you, being someone with actual law training, believe he should have been found guilty?
No, but when I began my original post which Knoell replied to with "technically" then I was indicating that I was not discussing the everyday dictionary definition of murder but rather the technical use of the term as the court and criminal justice system would. I never said anything about everyone needing to speak with common law definitions in mind, rather I was indicating that under the eyes of the law self defense is an admission that you comitted the murder but that you had a justification for it.
Secondly, if you go even further back in my posts you will see that I feel as if even though I don't like the verdict, I respect it because there was just not enough to find that he had an intent to kill Trayvon when he got out of his car. His intent to kill Trayvon only arose after he (reasonably or unreasonably) feared for his life. I'm not entirely sure if Florida recognizes imperfect self-defense (which amounts to a charge of manslaughter) but if they do and he had been charged accordingly they may have been able to find him guilty under those circumstances.
Whether or not I think someone is a piece of shit racist (which I think Zimmerman is) has nothing to do with whether I think there was sufficient factual evidence to find them guilty of murder. Here, he had a justification for the murder and the jury found in his favor. Like I've said before, there was a reason they only brought charges after significant political pressure because even though George Zimmerman is a piece of trash, there aren't enough facts to find him guilty of murder.
That's the entire problem with this case and many of the highly publicized cases, people can't separate their emotions and political idealogies from the outcome they think the case should have. Do I think Casey Anthony killed her daughter? Probably, but there wasn't enough evidence to support the finding. Same with OJ. People think that just because someone "looks guilty" it's enough for them to actually be guilty of the crime, that's not the case.
That's a liberal society, relying on the state for everything. I can understand his parents having the views they do. This guy for whatever his reason, killed their son their 17 yr old son. There's nothing abnormal about his parents wanting the guy to be in jail. Especially when they see it as this guy provoking their son in the first place by seemingly watching him or getting his attention in a negative way.
But as people not so connected in that way we can look at it from both angles. And it's quite understandable why a neighborhood watch person in a neighborhood with many burglary's would be doing what he was. It's also quite believable that if he was being beaten up and screaming for help he feared for his own safety and it led him to pull the trigger in such a volatile position you do not really plan out such things.
The whole race thing twisted everything to begin with, once we take that nonsense out it's a very different scenario for a lot of people.
It is a very unfortunate turn of events, one which you can possibly not blame either for. There's reasons Zimmerman was so alert, so suspicious and even reasons he possibly didn't want to let a guy lose trace before police arrived. There's reasons why this kid thought violence was how you deal with things, why he was himself dubious of Zimmerman, why he did or didn't try to get to the house he was at.
Not everyone is going to think the same on this issue, but by the law it was not guilty all the way, and how anyone can argue against that i don't know.
What now is key is to make sure you don't let crimes slide because of race or age, 14 yr olds don't have to go to a prison or juvenile detention, but do something that stops them from thinking they have a free pass. You punish bad behavior or criminal activities from the get go. You show zero tolerance. Neighborhoods with crime you have police circling regularly, and you show proper deterrents for criminals in terms of punishments or reactions to the crimes. Neighborhood watch have to make people aware of who and what they are instantly as following people can lead to wrong conclusions whether it did here or not we don't know.
Is Zimmerman a racist, no pretty clearly no. Did he set out to kill this guy when he saw him, quite clearly no. He's not superman he's done some bad things im sure like most people. But really his intentions were maybe to be a cop like figure, but in general to protect his wife, his neighborhood and prevent crime, these intentions are not bad. So to lambast him is to completely ignore all these things for a petty agenda
But as people not so connected in that way we can look at it from both angles. And it's quite understandable why a neighborhood watch person in a neighborhood with many burglary's would be doing what he was. It's also quite believable that if he was being beaten up and screaming for help he feared for his own safety and it led him to pull the trigger in such a volatile position you do not really plan out such things.
The whole race thing twisted everything to begin with, once we take that nonsense out it's a very different scenario for a lot of people.
It is a very unfortunate turn of events, one which you can possibly not blame either for. There's reasons Zimmerman was so alert, so suspicious and even reasons he possibly didn't want to let a guy lose trace before police arrived. There's reasons why this kid thought violence was how you deal with things, why he was himself dubious of Zimmerman, why he did or didn't try to get to the house he was at.
Not everyone is going to think the same on this issue, but by the law it was not guilty all the way, and how anyone can argue against that i don't know.
What now is key is to make sure you don't let crimes slide because of race or age, 14 yr olds don't have to go to a prison or juvenile detention, but do something that stops them from thinking they have a free pass. You punish bad behavior or criminal activities from the get go. You show zero tolerance. Neighborhoods with crime you have police circling regularly, and you show proper deterrents for criminals in terms of punishments or reactions to the crimes. Neighborhood watch have to make people aware of who and what they are instantly as following people can lead to wrong conclusions whether it did here or not we don't know.
Is Zimmerman a racist, no pretty clearly no. Did he set out to kill this guy when he saw him, quite clearly no. He's not superman he's done some bad things im sure like most people. But really his intentions were maybe to be a cop like figure, but in general to protect his wife, his neighborhood and prevent crime, these intentions are not bad. So to lambast him is to completely ignore all these things for a petty agenda
OJ all things led to one person....it was guilty clear as day. Casey Anthony guilty clear as day. I don't see the cases as comparable. You certainly wont get Zimmerman writing a book ''how i got away with murder''
Anyway i think your piece of shit racist comment is strange. There's no evidence anywhere he's a racist maybe some old myspace comments where he said some derogatory things about Mexicans, but it was more the wannabe gangster culture he didn't like about them, and trying to rob him constantly. Given his history, his actual racial background himself, his associates, his colleagues, his even handed approach on who he called the cops on(color of people he deemed suspicious a mixture despite only young blacks being known to commit these burglary's in the area) there's simply no foundation on him being a racist at all. What racist campaigns and voted for a guy they're racist against when his own family(certainly his brother) are mostly voting the other way?
The racist thing is flawed as hell. Only thing that's been said regarding him and race was that girl who claimed he molested her, she said he only liked black people who acted white or something, but whether or not he molested her, she obviously had plenty reason to trash him. Though it would go along with him not liking the gangster culture, and SHE could perceive that as liking black people who act white herself rather than him saying such a thing. And that's certainly not any substance to be racist even if what she says is true, which who knows on that.
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Like I said, OJ and Casey looked guilty as all hell BUT there wasn't enough evidence for a factual finding of guilt for murder. Casey Anthony especially. That entire case was based on how strange it was that she didn't report the disappearance of her daughter and the fact that an internet search was run on her computer for chloroform 2 weeks before the daughter went missing. They never tied the search to her, never proved she had any, and weren't even able to prove it was used in the comission of the murder.
As for my justification for calling him a piece of shit racist? He was racist because by all accounts he believed that this guy was guilty of burglary because 1) there had been a lot of burglaries in the area and 2) he was a young black kid. Now, if Zimmerman was getting out of his car and confronting everyone in the neighborhood about suspecting them of burglary then I wouldn't believe him to be a racist but by all accounts the only reason he believed this specific person to be guilty of burglary was because he was black. Hell, Zimmerman didn't even have any support for believing a burglary had occurred on that day. Trayvon had nothing on him to account for having committed burglary. His only foundation for believing Trayvon was guilty of burglary was his race, age, and gender.
My question is this, even if Zimmerman didn't make any verbal comments about why he tried to stop Trayvon, what was his reasoning for stopping Trayvon? Because he suspected him of burglary, correct? Well if that is the case, and he wasn't taking race into account, why wasn't he stopping every person walking through the neighborhood? The obvious conclusion is that he was racial profiling.
As for my justification for calling him a piece of shit racist? He was racist because by all accounts he believed that this guy was guilty of burglary because 1) there had been a lot of burglaries in the area and 2) he was a young black kid. Now, if Zimmerman was getting out of his car and confronting everyone in the neighborhood about suspecting them of burglary then I wouldn't believe him to be a racist but by all accounts the only reason he believed this specific person to be guilty of burglary was because he was black. Hell, Zimmerman didn't even have any support for believing a burglary had occurred on that day. Trayvon had nothing on him to account for having committed burglary. His only foundation for believing Trayvon was guilty of burglary was his race, age, and gender.
My question is this, even if Zimmerman didn't make any verbal comments about why he tried to stop Trayvon, what was his reasoning for stopping Trayvon? Because he suspected him of burglary, correct? Well if that is the case, and he wasn't taking race into account, why wasn't he stopping every person walking through the neighborhood? The obvious conclusion is that he was racial profiling.
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Interesting article on an article. Trying to get a law professor to be accurate on Zimmerman.
http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2013/07/how-not-to-correct-the-record.html I recommend you read it just to see how easily people make errors and those that have no clue on the errors read it and believe the errors.
The person on the article also makes a quite obvious good point, if Zimmerman is really so horrible and racist, why do people have to keep lying their asses off to make that point?
http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2013/07/how-not-to-correct-the-record.html I recommend you read it just to see how easily people make errors and those that have no clue on the errors read it and believe the errors.
The person on the article also makes a quite obvious good point, if Zimmerman is really so horrible and racist, why do people have to keep lying their asses off to make that point?
I wasn't aware that the person you were responding to was even referring to court definitions in particular.
I believe he was trying to make a point about the negative connotations of murderer, and that he was trying to get around to the fact that unless you are convicted of the crime of murder as defined by the law, then you are not a murderer. People knowingly use the term, because they like the negative aspect of it.
I don't think we disagree here, I was just being snippy because you were being snippy with him.
But for the hell of it let's just ask you one time: Post verdict, is Zimmerman a murderer? The answer is technically No. Dictionary not required.
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