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I read the first volume of the comics. It was decent, IIRC. A second volume just recently finished with it's 6th issue and should be collected soon.
 
[quote name='neocisco']I read the first volume of the comics. It was decent, IIRC. A second volume just recently finished with it's 6th issue and should be collected soon.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I want to get those at some point, but I meant more like books that are influential to the thinking of the show, or books featured in the show, like If You Meet the Buddha on the Road, Kill Him!
 
Even if Walternate gets Peter back
Peter knows(more like believes, since it's only based on the book not confirmed) that the machine would destroy both worlds. So I am not sure what exactly would be accomplished if Peter went back to the other side again.

Also I definitely think what the Observer said to Peter is going to make him go over for the kid.
 
Anyone find it interesting how Walternate was, at first, more moral then Walter? He was really adamant that
children were not to be tested on.
 
[quote name='Magus8472']Ah, well. Was fun while it lasted.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'm not sure what else they can do after the machine does it's thing. They'll have to start exploring Astrid's backstory/love life pretty soon if there's another season -_-
 
[quote name='IRHari']Anyone find it interesting how Walternate was, at first, more moral then Walter? He was really adamant that
children were not to be tested on.
[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I found this really interesting too. I'd also love to know more about Walternate's lover, too. I got the vibe she was pulling some strings. Another of the First People, like Sam?
 
[quote name='evildeadjedi']http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/02/12/tv-ratings-friday-fringe-falls-further/82440

:cry::censored:[/QUOTE]

The only positive you can really draw from that was that Friday television was pretty much down across the board this week. If networks aren't happy with these numbers or can't afford to produce shows with these kinds of ratings, then they need to just show re-runs on Friday nights as well. Use it to show encores of the highest (or maybe lowest) viewed shows from that week. Hell, have viewers text vote for which episodes should be shown again. Networks love interactive shit like that. These "genius executives" just need to think outside of the box a little bit and stop forcing modern programming into the same worn out paradigm they've been using for 20 years.
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky']Yeah, I found this really interesting too. I'd also love to know more about Walternate's lover, too. I got the vibe she was pulling some strings. Another of the First People, like Sam?[/QUOTE]

If I remember right, isn't Peter's biological mother still alive in their universe too? So I was kind of confused, I assumed that he was still married to her and that was some sort of mistress, but it probably make more sense that he just got divorced and remarried instead.
 
[quote name='ImLuhkee']If I remember right, isn't Peter's biological mother still alive in their universe too? So I was kind of confused, I assumed that he was still married to her and that was some sort of mistress, but it probably make more sense that he just got divorced and remarried instead.[/QUOTE]well blueverse walter lost his wife over the fact that he stole peter. redverse musta lost his because he lost his peter.


[quote name='humidore']Yeah, I'm not sure what else they can do after the machine does it's thing. They'll have to start exploring Astrid's backstory/love life pretty soon if there's another season -_-[/QUOTE]dude we were saying the same thing about Supernatural and what do you do after the apocalypse and they surprised us
 
I think it was a mistress - I could have sworn they established that Walternate was married in the alternate universe.
 
Anyone read TMQ on ESPN? He had a funny take on Fringe (he loves talking about the absurdity of things on TV):
The J.J. Abrams sci-fi series "Fringe" is carrying the torch of his shows "Lost" and "Alias." Just like in those series, whenever the plot tank is running low, strange ancient artifacts pop up. On "Fringe," the heroes just learned there was an advanced human civilization on Earth far in the past, but it disappeared 251 million years ago, during the Permian extinction. The past civilization built a device designed to destroy the entire universe -- it's not explained why this was viewed as useful -- then before falling extinct, disassembled the device and buried the pieces around the world. In the show, FBI agents discover a map of the locations of the pieces, dig them up and hand them over to a sinister corporation for reassembly. It's not explained why this, either, is viewed as useful.

But if the pieces were buried 251 million years ago, they would not now be in the same locations, rendering the map worthless. That far back in history, all the world's land mass was formed into the single continent Pangaea. Tectonic forces that separated Pangaea would have scrambled the locations where the pieces of the ancient machine were buried -- and likely would have ripped up the pieces, leaving scrap metal, if any trace.

Where did the FBI agents get the map? From a mysterious rare book called "The First People," which describes the civilization that ended 251 million years ago. How the book survived all that time is never explained. But conveniently, they find a copy in English!
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[quote name='javeryh']Anyone read TMQ on ESPN? He had a funny take on Fringe (he loves talking about the absurdity of things on TV):[/QUOTE]
And he's either wrong or misinformed at just about every point. I'm almost positive they had explained accounting for the shift in the episode the map was introduced. And I also don't believe they claimed the books were 251M years old, merely describing the civilization was that age. Absurd too? Sure, but remember that they've already planted the idea that some of the First People may still be around, hence why the books may have been written, as well as in different languages and with the same message.

Also, they're only assuming the device will destroy the universe and is made out of materials that would "rip apart." For starters, nobody knows for sure what it will do. Remember what Walternate said...the universe isn't interested in good or evil, merely balance. The device may be useful in the event "worlds collide" to re-stabilize the universes. As for not seeing why either is viewed as useful, don't forget the Watc...I mean Observers here as well. As far as what it's made out of, referring to the fact the device would be ripped to scrap metal? Who's to say it's made out of any Earthly or known element? In the Stargate mythos they explain that the gates are made out of a naquadah, a "super" metal, I have no doubt this is easily the case here as well.

I'm sure the article was just written to get a rise out of fans, but I just wanted to comment.
 
Yeah, that dude is trying too hard to find things to hate about the show. WSB already made some good points about his complaints, and I fully agree with WSB on this.

On another note, I finally caught up with the last 2 episodes, and holy shit! Things are starting to get damn good!
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky']I'm sure the article was just written to get a rise out of fans, but I just wanted to comment.[/QUOTE]

Maybe - he likes the show though, I think. I also don't think he watches it as closely as you or I would but he usually posts reader feedback if he gets something wrong and people call him on it.

If you've never read his weekly column it's really good. It is football-centric but he comments on tons of other stuff too - the Fringe blurb was one small piece of the column this week. HERE is a link if you are interested...
 
booo to region blocking. I can't watch that preview in Canada and it's not on CityTV's site. Oh well. i haven't watched a promo in like 2 years. I'll be fine without this one.
[quote name='javeryh']Maybe - he likes the show though, I think. I also don't think he watches it as closely as you or I would but he usually posts reader feedback if he gets something wrong and people call him on it.

If you've never read his weekly column it's really good. It is football-centric but he comments on tons of other stuff too - the Fringe blurb was one small piece of the column this week. HERE is a link if you are interested...[/QUOTE]
WOW that was long. and Fringe occupied a very short portion of that mostly sports article.
ok
  1. Cheers to him for having the entire thing on one page and not forcing me to click thru 3-4 'pages' just to increase page views like any gaming blogs "Top X list"
  2. In the context of the website and that article I can forgive his huge errors with regards to Fringe. Fringe is the type of show that's hard to jump into. I mean yeah we can all enjoy the monster of the week stories but the arcs. the arcs requires a fair amount of commitment
  3. again in the context of him as a sports writer I wouldn't waste 40 seconds listening to his opinion on scifi TV. heck, I'd have to know him personally to listen to his opinion on comedies.
 
Well it looks like last weeks ratings were so bad that Joshua Jackson has turned to the fans to save the show, urging them to start a campaign to save the show.

Fans wondering about the fate of Fringe are not alone. Star Joshua Jackson is watching the ratings along with the rest of us. “I’m a positive person in general, but we really need our Fringe fans to tune in and watch us on Fridays,” Jackson tells EW. “We did good when we first moved, but last week we did not have a good week, ratings wise. It is going to take the people that like the show to watch the show and start the campaign and show their support if they want to see us stick around for another season.”
Meanwhile, more data has come in about those ratings from last Friday: The episode’s adult demo climbed 57 percent over the next three days thanks to DVR playback. That’s a lot, and higher than the previous Friday’s Fringe DVR gain, suggesting that more fans are electing to watch the show over the weekend (not enough, however, to change the overall story — numbers still fell when comparing week to week). Still, the data reinforces Jackson’s point: Fans need to watch the show on Fridays.
As for what comes next on the show, Jackson gave us more reasons to tune in …
“Apparently I’m gonna be a dad,” he says. “And it is like the most extreme long-distance relationship, which I am pretty good at as it turns out in real life. My baby mama is in another universe. I think he has to find out, but I don’t know exactly how we’re gonna work that out yet. I have not see the finale script yet or anything. The whole other universe thing and the machine and the war of the two worlds is obviously the end of this season. But you would think they can’t just let the baby thing fall away.”
Jackson also noted the show has gotten “very Romeo and Juliet-ish in” the last couple of weeks but says the show “will go back to some straight Fringeiness very soon.”
“We have been exploring our feelings a lot lately,” he says. “I feel sort of bad for fans of the relationship. The Peter-Olivia supporters have been taken for quite a ride. He wants to be with her, and in his mind it was her. But in her mind, he should have been able to tell the difference. But we get back to some cold hard out-there science stuff soon enough.”
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Source: http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/02/18/joshua-jackson-fringe-renewal/

So tune-in folks, tell everyone you know to watch!
 
but if i'm not using a neilson box do my watching really matter? sometimes i watch fringe live sometimes I download it after i never really feel like i've ever made a difference.
 
Well tonights episode felt very slow to me tonight. It was not even close to my expectations for the average episode of fringe.

One idea did pop into my head at the end of the episode,
As Olivia is leading him to what we're to believe is the bedroom, what happens when he ends up knocking up both Olivias and then had to choose.
 
well i say
in true coin toss theory. he only knocks one of them up. just like the plot-couple, both sets didn't have kids. Thus making it a choice the kid with the liar or 'true love'. Then again since apparently he does have feelings for Fauxlivia maybe it would be a tougher choice if they were both preggers.

I didn't think it was too bad. The main plot line was kinda throw-away but the stuff on the fringe was rather meaty. Watching Walter struggle with doing the same thing his redverse self has been doing was interesting. I'm not big into Olivia and Peter or anything but their struggles were also not without a meat-like quality.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']So anyone think that our Olivia will also end up
pregnant
after last week's show?[/QUOTE]

Yes, then he will have to choose
not only which Olivia he wants but which child to save as well, hence what the Observer said to him on the roof about it being difficult to be a father.
 
well i think it's possible she won't. picking which girl when their both equal is one thing but it could also be an asymmetrical choice of pick which girl when he loves the blue one but is obligated to the red one.
 
[quote name='ImLuhkee']Yes, then he will have to choose
not only which Olivia he wants but which child to save as well, hence what the Observer said to him on the roof about it being difficult to be a father.
[/QUOTE]

OOoh I didn't even think about that...nice catch.
 
In the end, neither universe will be destroyed. There will be some way to save both. That's just how TV tends to play out.
I wouldn't be surprised if the ending is that they manage to go back in time to when Walter crossed over the first time, and stop him.
 
With eggs in both baskets, Peter will never choose; being unable to choose will save both worlds. This is good ... Options are good. Especially since the writers are trying to make us like both sides.
 
[quote name='jetblac']With eggs in both baskets, Peter will never choose; being unable to choose will save both worlds. This is good ... Options are good. Especially since the writers are trying to make us like both sides.[/QUOTE]there's only two universes. it's like flipping a coin the coin has to come up heads or tails. 'Choosing' probably isn't going to be an active thing. It may be as simple as which universe will he live in. If he lives in redverse then bluverse dies and vice versa. I agree with Chibi that this is TV and they'll go for a save the day series ending but it won't be as simple as "He doesn't choose" that's too easy.
 
I didn't care for that last episode - I guess it was sort of a Valentine's Day throwaway. Not too much mythology (or at lease mythology that we didn't already know about). Anyone else finding that you like the other universe better? At the very end when what's his name and Fauxlivia were scouting the apartment building on the other side I thought this is what I wanted to see more of... also, why is it that all girls on TV are always DTF? Maybe it's the male writers?
 
Tonights episode was just okay(in my opinion), don't feel that the episode brought much to the table. My wife found it interesting that in all of Olivia's life she hadn't changed her hairstyle at all. I have to say my favorite part of the episode is the retro opening.

Next episode looks promising.
 
so Walternate had no clue about the alternate universe until Olivia crossed over

more episodes about alternate universe plz!!
 
I think I'm forgetting something obvious, but I didn't think present-day blue-verse Olivia is aware of having spent time with Peter as a kid. Did they both get memories erased or something?
 
The retro opening was great. I do find it hard to believe that both Peter and Olivia would ave no memory of each other in the present especially since it was such a major event.

Also, Peter was sure that he was from somewhere else and he wanted to "go home" for at least several months. I also find it hard to believe that he would just forget about this (he was devastated when he found out Walter stole him from the alternate universe).

I need to think about this more but I'm wondering if the writers haven't contradicted themselves somehow...
 
[quote name='humidore']I think I'm forgetting something obvious, but I didn't think present-day blue-verse Olivia is aware of having spent time with Peter as a kid. Did they both get memories erased or something?[/QUOTE]If I recall correctly Olivia didn't remember this time period of her life very well. When they were looking for the kids from the camp she didn't remember Walter or the camp at all it had to be coaxed from the recesses of her mind. The only kid she DID remember was the firestarter? kid who called her Olive.

This is why I don't like 'prologue' episodes though.
 
I love how Walternate has the ability to tell the age of wax and paper. Who's to say Peter didnt draw that before he got kidnapped?
 
[quote name='Bezerker']I love how Walternate has the ability to tell the age of wax and paper. Who's to say Peter didnt draw that before he got kidnapped?[/QUOTE]

I don't get it... didn't Olivia just appear in front of him with the drawing after crossing over? I was under the impression that this was how Walternate found out about the other universe. I could be way off base though - this show is sort of confusing...
 
[quote name='javeryh']I don't get it... didn't Olivia just appear in front of him with the drawing after crossing over? I was under the impression that this was how Walternate found out about the other universe. I could be way off base though - this show is sort of confusing...[/QUOTE]
Yeah, you're pretty much spot-on. I got it after watching the re-air. Olive was upset when she ran into Walter's office, crossed, talked to AlterWalter and and left her sketchbook. She then crossed back, and Walter brought her out to her stepdad. AlterWalter called his wife to tell her he knows where Peter is via Olive's drawings. I'm not dense, but that was the one time the blue shimmer would've helped.
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky']Yeah, you're pretty much spot-on. I got it after watching the re-air. Olive was upset when she ran into Walter's office, crossed, talked to AlterWalter and and left her sketchbook. She then crossed back, and Walter brought her out to her stepdad. AlterWalter called his wife to tell her he knows where Peter is via Olive's drawings. I'm not dense, but that was the one time the blue shimmer would've helped.[/QUOTE]

That's exactly what I got out of it. Walternate made it pretty clear earlier in the episode he had no idea how Peter was taken or where he could be. Peter's mother was convinced that a Walter lookalike stole him (they discussed shapeshifting but the voice modulation would be extremely advanced for someone to pull off convincingly). Walternate just couldn't explain it and seemed to be at a dead end but didn't want to give up. Then Olivia appeared and disappeared leaving the drawing which causes Walternate to realize that there is an alternative universe and this is where Peter was located.
 
I actually got it the first time go me. shimmer or no shimmer I thought it was clever enough

[quote name='Bezerker']I love how Walternate has the ability to tell the age of wax and paper. Who's to say Peter didnt draw that before he got kidnapped?[/QUOTE]this is the confusing post. Banky and javeryh you guys are talking sense but I have no idea what Bezerker is talking about.
 
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