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[quote name='KaneRobot']Looks like a pretty good set, although at this point I just assume spend a little more and buy full season sets for the first 3 or 4 years from unauthorized sellers.[/QUOTE]

I hate to admit it, but I fully agree here. I'm wary of the quality of some of those, so I'd like to hear if anyone else has tried sites like ioffer and gotten good product. So many of the videos there have fancy pants professional looking packaging, but if the video quality is for shit, then I don't care.
 
[quote name='007']I'll echo everything that myke said about Taker. *This* is where Taker needs to be right now, especially since the 'invincible Deadman' gimmick had more than run it's course. It seems like we're on the course I talked about a few weeks ago... I don't want Deadman Taker, but I also think that biker Taker was just a bit too far. This seems to meet right in the middle, which I'm a big, big fan of. He's still Taker, but just more humanized. I do hope they tweak the entrance, though. It also solves the issue of them calling him 'The Last Outlaw', which made zero sense up until now. I still hate it, but at least now there's a reasoning behind it.

I've said it before, but I'll say it again... 20-0. Next year's WrestleMania is the furthest I think we'll see Taker go in terms of an in-ring career. While I'd be okay with him stopping after this year (really, I would've been fine with last year), he might as well hang around for a year, make it an even 20, and call it a day. If anything, that's what I find interesting about this year's match-up... I could make a compelling case for this being either guys last match, and I'd give HHH the same timeframe as Taker. Both of these guys are winding down, and I'm damn curious to see where they end up. Which, on a side note, I was even beginning to think that this could be HHH's retirement match, running only on the absolutely bizarre basis that he was crying on Raw when he came out. It obviously didn't play into the storyline at all, and it would be weird that after as many times as he's returned, this is the one where the emotion overtook him. It just immediatly plugged into my brain as 'could he be realizing this is his last big return as a wrestler?'. There's no indication that it's headed that way yet, but it was a small thing that I picked up on.[/QUOTE]
I can't see him going past 20-0 either, especially with the most recent news about his shoulder.

Undertaker’s shoulder, as noted before, sounds like it’s in the same situation as the late Shinya Hashimoto. Hashimoto kept working on a bad shoulder, until by the time he had it operated on, the damage was so severe they couldn’t fix it. Undertaker will never get full strength back and is likely to be winding down his career over the next year. The idea of him retiring after going 20-0 at the 2012 Mania has been talked about, although he’ll likely go as long as he physically can.
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[quote name='KaneRobot']Damn, how can they put the Flair vs. Sting match from the final Nitro on there and NOT include the Flair vs. Sting match from the FIRST Nitro on there?? That was the match that put Nitro on the map, not just because of the fact it was Flair vs. Sting, but it's when Luger showed up out of nowhere when everyone thought he was still with the WWF.[/QUOTE]
I was thinking the same thing.
 
Flipping past Taker's promo reminded me... so, are we just going to forget that this match happened a decade ago?

I couldn't help but think of it during that promo. 'The list of other men who have found out before'? You mean the one that HHH is already on?

Or the '18 other men who already tried'? Shouldn't that be 17, since HHH was, uh, one of them and he's the one being addressed here?

Sorry, logic issues.
 
As an Undertaker, for lack of a better word, mark, I find that his entering to Johnny Cash fucking rules. I can't help but notice they're Western-ing him up with the Last Outlaw moniker and the old biker pants and the Cash and I thoroughly approve.

^^^It should be 16, Kane and Shawn Michaels twice.
 
[quote name='Survivalism']As an Undertaker, for lack of a better word, mark, I find that his entering to Johnny Cash fucking rules. I can't help but notice they're Western-ing him up with the Last Outlaw moniker and the old biker pants and the Cash and I thoroughly approve.

^^^It should be 16, Kane and Shawn Michaels twice.[/QUOTE]

Ah, you're right. I was using Big Show and A-Train to balance out HBK, but I totally forgot about Kane. I imagine that happens to him a lot.
 
I hope Edge and Del Rio take Teddy Long's advice and proceed peacefullbly.

Also, the crowd is chanting USA at Mexican and Canadian wrestlers. Way to make me proud, Ohio.
 
Y'know. I was wondering if they'd ever make a Nitro DVD set. Glad they are.

I'll probably get it, it looks solid.
 
[quote name='Survivalism']I hope Edge and Del Rio take Teddy Long's advice and proceed peacefullbly.

Also, the crowd is chanting USA at Mexican and Canadian wrestlers. Way to make me proud, Ohio.[/QUOTE]
Hey man, they're as uhmerican as pizza.
 
[quote name='Chuplayer']Man, must they spend three segments on Smackdown on repeating Raw promos? It's getting ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, they're really driving the point home that Smackdown is indeed the B show. When's the last time a segment on RAW was used to repeat any SD promos? I'm gonna guess none.
 
That's pretty much why I wait and watch Smackdown off my DVR at some point over the weekend. Just not worth watching during the "live" airing between SyFy cramming more ads down our throat along with even more RAW Rebounds.
 
I'll definitely get that Nitro set. A compilation of all of them over a few years on is tempting but I'll have enough trouble finding time to get through one 9 hour set, there's no way I can sit and just watch 3 hour Nitro after 3 hour Nitro and expect to ever finish.
 
[quote name='Halo05']I'll definitely get that Nitro set. A compilation of all of them over a few years on is tempting but I'll have enough trouble finding time to get through one 9 hour set, there's no way I can sit and just watch 3 hour Nitro after 3 hour Nitro and expect to ever finish.[/QUOTE]

Just watch it in chunks. That's what I normally do with the multi disc WWE sets.
 
I think what's best of all is that not only is this their second WM match, but it's also the exact same story as last time. Neither of them have an opponent for WM so they face each other.
 
I'm very tempted buy that Nitro set. I'm a sucker for WCW stuff, but I'll probably wait since it'll likely be in the $10 bin at Walmart a few months after release.
 
[quote name='masked lemon']h ttp://www.megau pload.c om/?d=FX7UCEYL A home movie I made recently. It's about this goofy lazy eyed ex con who has to watch his jailbait daughter while she goes on a field trip...[/QUOTE]
Sweet! A full movie! Thank you! Now I won't have to pay to see The Chaperone!
 
Sad.

John "Sir Oliver Humperdink" Sutton was informed today that surgery to remove his cancer is no longer an option. This is due to his deteriorating health from battling pneumonia. Due to that news, he made the decision to enter hospice care rather than undergo chemotherapy.
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After debating for a while, decided to sign up for a month on WWEClassics.com for $3.95 .. decided to watch an episode of Monday Night Raw from '95. After hearing the opening theme, I quickly realized that this was the best $4 I've spent in a while. Especially after putting WMP into the taskbar and making the tiny video screen pop up.

Wow, Hakushi vs. Matt Hardy in this episode from '95.. I wasn't aware that Matt Hardy was in WWF/E in '95.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMb2tXCdpqw
 
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[quote name='Purple Flames']For the benefit of those with flash photography:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sllg_D10T0Y&feature=player_embedded#at=50[/QUOTE]

Post-show extras are great. I was at a Raw in Atlanta after it went off the air and we had Austin, Rock and Foley in the ring for a half hour afterwards just singing and jawing with the fans and each other. At one point some fat guy jumped the barrier and almost got in the ring before security stopped him. Rock grabbed the mic and said "No, no, no, let him in. If he was able to get his fat ass over the railing then let him in!" Security wasn't having it, of course, but overall it was a lot of fun having these guys hang out and just have some fun.
 
According to his Twitter(Shadbeast), Shad Gaspard was arrested for walking on the sidewalk or something.
 
[quote name='BlueSwim']According to his Twitter(Shadbeast), Shad Gaspard was arrested for walking on the sidewalk or something.[/QUOTE]

Yup.

"Former WWE star Shad Gaspard was arrested on Saturday in Columbus, Oh., according to his own Twitter page. His wife is posting on his Twitter account and claims that Shad was arrested "for crossing the street." She has been adamant that he did nothing wrong and was arrested by an overzealous cop. You can read more at Twitter.com/Shadbeast."
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http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/publish/WWE/article10017144.shtml
 
[quote name='rvdrock']She? What?[/QUOTE]

Yes. She. As in his wife. You think he was married to dude? Don't you know we don't tolerate equality in our country.?
 
[quote name='niceguyshawne']So would this be a case of Shad's gimmick following him into real life?[/QUOTE]

I think it's called racial profiling.
 
[quote name='Scorch']After debating for a while, decided to sign up for a month on WWEClassics.com for $3.95 .. decided to watch an episode of Monday Night Raw from '95. After hearing the opening theme, I quickly realized that this was the best $4 I've spent in a while. Especially after putting WMP into the taskbar and making the tiny video screen pop up.

Wow, Hakushi vs. Matt Hardy in this episode from '95.. I wasn't aware that Matt Hardy was in WWF/E in '95.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMb2tXCdpqw[/QUOTE]

Just so you know, it auto renews until you cancel but yeah it's great for $4/month.

You can also find previous month's uploads by using google, say for instance, WCW Saturday Night 1996 from Jan and Feb that they haven't added to the weekly show list - http://www.google.com/search?q=site...tart=10&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.&fp=b51460fcfdef9990
 
Just found this over at another forum: it's a look at Hogan's history of using his pull in WWE and WCW from 1985-2006 to make himself look strong and hold onto the title even at the cost of business and putting people over:

it's a long list, so I'll spoiler it.

1985 - Would Hogan be willing to work a program with Rick Steamboat if Steamboat agreed to turn heel? No. Give him Big John Studd instead.

1986 - Hogan-Savage is tentatively planned for WM 2, after the two had feuded in house shows which Savage had won by DQ or countout. Hogan nixes the idea of facing the dynamic, atheltic Savage at 'Mania, even though he would be booked to win. Hogan handpicks King Kong Bundy to embarass in a cage match. Savage wrestles George Steele far down the undercard.

1986 - Hogan agrees to work with Paul Orndorff, but won't do the job to him. Hogan agrees only because he is guarenteed a win at a huge event. He defeats Orndorff in a cage match on SNME to end the feud.

1987 - Hogan again turns down the idea of feuding with Savage; but suggests turning him face, so Hogan can step aside for awhile, film a movie and get some needed rest.
Savage turns face that summer.

1988 - Hogan agrees to "drop" the belt to Andre, but only under questionable circumstances to preserve his character. Hogan agrees to "give the rub" to Savage at WM IV. Hogan only agrees because he is promised he will get the title back at WM 5.

1988 - Six months later, as Savage is having a successful run, Hogan suggests putting them together as a team "Mega Powers" and they headline Summerslam. Hogan is no longer the champion - but still in the main event.

1989 - Hogan finally meets Savage at Wrestlemania V. Hogan beats him for the title. Rather than face Savage in the anticipated rematch at Summerslam, or a program with Rick Rude as creative suggests - Hogan deccides to go a different route.

Hogan suggests a tag team match, pitting himself and his close friend Brutus Beefcake, against Savage and an ACTOR, Tiny Lister who played Zeus in the Hogan film "No Holds Barred". The film opened that summer to decent business, so Hogan uses a WWE PPV to promote the film, while "giving the rub" to his friend Beefcake.

1990 - Hogan agrees to drop the belt to Ultimate Warrior at Wrestlemania. Only with a guarentee of an extended break and the promise he would get the title back. A month after 'Mania, Hogan is "attacked" by Earthquake and off TV for a few months. After teasing retirement on TV, Hogan returns at Summerslam as "Immortal" and vanquishes his good friend John Tenta (Earthquake).

1990 - To preserve the Warrior character, creative decides he will drop the title to someone OTHER than Hogan. Despite the allure of a Hogan/Warrior rematch - Randy Savage is rumoured to be the man Warrior will drop the belt to at Royal Rumble '91. Hogan suggests Sgt Slaughter. Slaughter has just returned as an "Iraqi sympathizer" and Hogan pushes for Slaughter to beat Warrior, then he can beat Slaughter to regain the belt.

1991 - Hogan defeats Slaughter a few months after "Desert Storm" starts. He waves his flag and defeats the Iraqi villan at Wrestlemania. After headlining Wrestlemania for the past two years, Savage and Warrior are reduced to the undercard.

1991 - Hogan again decides against a rematch with Warrior at Summerslam, and suggests they team together against Slaughter & The Iron Shiek. Six months after he had beaten Slaughter for the belt, he feels the feud is not over and that fans will tune in to watch him team with Warrior against "the enemy".

1991 - Hogan agrees to drop the title to Undertaker, but refuses to do a clean job to him. Ric Flair interferes in the match with a chair and 'Taker gets the win.

1992 - McMahon decides that Flair will win the title at Royal Rumble, then drop the title to Hogan in a "dream match" at Wrestlemania VIII. Hogan decides he wants to take another extended break after 'Mania. He suggests Flair drop the title to Savage instead and he can work with Sid Vicious and "give him the rub".

Despite the fact that Flair/Savage is the WWE Title match, it is placed in the middle of the show. Hogan and the lumbering Sid Vicious close the show. The first time the WWE Champion has not been in the main event of Wrestlemania.

1993 - Hogan agrees to return to team with Brutus Beefcake against Money Inc. at Wrestlemania and it appears to be the first time he will NOT be in the main event.

When Hogan learns that WWE Champion Bret Hart is scheduled to drop the title to Yokozuna, he informs McMahon that this will be the first Wrestlemania that a face doesn't win the main event and the "people aren't gonna like it". Hogan suggests "surprising" the audience by challenging Yoko immediately afterward and beating him to win the WWE Title. Vince McMahon agees. Hogan beats Yoko to regain the title.

1993 - McMahon and WWE creative suggests Hogan and Bret Hart engage in a face vs face match at Summerslam that will see Hogan "pass the torch" to Hart and drop the title.

Hogan turned the idea down, and agreed to drop the title back to Yokozuna, who in turn would drop it to Hart at SS. Some critics believe, however, that Hogan simply didn't want to drop the title to the new flagship of the company.

Hogan drops the belt to Yoko at KOTR (but doesn't drop it cleanly), while WWE goes with the failed Lex Luger "US Express" idea. Hogan leaves WWE two months later and does not appear at Summerslam.

1994 - Hogan signs with WCW after being courted by Ric Flair and Eric Bischoff. Hogan insisted on "complete creative control" over the Hulk Hogan character and a certain perrcentage of EACH PPV TOTAL REVENUE.

1994 - A three match series is planned with Hogan/Flair. Hogan would win the first, Flair would regain it and Hogan would win the finale. All parties agree.

Hogan wins the WCW World Title from Ric Flair in his first match back in a year. When the time comes for Flair to regain the title, Hogan refuses, saying the fans "weren't ready for him to drop it".

Flair later admits in his book, that fans were already booing Hogan at shows, but that WCW was dubbing in a "cheering crowd soundtrack".

The subsequent PPVs featuring Flair/Hogan fail to sell.

1994 - Hogan negotiates for former WWE stars and Hogan allies Brutus Beefcake, Earthquake and Typhoon to join WCW.

Creative suggests Hogan face Sting in a face vs face "dream match" at Starrcade. Hogan decides it makes better sense for him to face Beefcake as the heel, "The Butcher". The PPV flops.

1995 - Hogan convinces Randy Savage to leave WWE and join WCW. Instead of starting a feud between the two former WWE Champions, Hogan insists on teaming with Savage against Kevin Sullivan and his 3 Faces of Fear.

1995 - Hogan agrees to work with Vader, but the program soon falls apart when both acuse the other of "not selling for the other".

Fans are steadily losing interest in WCW. The company begins to falter seriously, as executives point at the Hogan contract and "creative control" agreement as being a main culprit. Hogan takes extended time off - but remains the highest paid man on the roster.

1996 - With WCW desperate to compete with WWE, WCW signs Hall and Nash and plot the NWO angle. Hogan is booked to turn heel and he agrees. The angle is a smash. Within weeks, Hogan wins the World Title from The Giant.

Instead of milking fresh matchups as a heel, Hogan decides that WCW should bring in Roddy Piper. Despite the possibility of a Starrcade matchup with Lex Luger or The Giant - Hogan faces Piper in a cage match in the main event. Hogan puts over Piper via the sleeperhold, in a NON-TITLE match.

1997 - Hogan feuds with Piper and Savage, while turning down suggestions he put over Luger or Diamind Dallas Page for the title. He appears weekly, but rarely wrestles on TV, while still remaining the highest paid star in WCW.

1997 - In his much hyped Starrcade match with Sting, it was decided that Hogan would beat Sting after an alleged "fast count" by referee Nick Patrick. WCW's newly contracted Bret Hart would accuse Patrick and have the match restarted with Sting winning by submission.

Hogan reportedly paid off referee Patrick, to count normally and make it look like Hogan had pinned Sting cleanly. When this DID happen, the planned finish played out - but fans booed because it was clearly botched and made Sting look bad.

1998 - Hogan agreed to put over Goldberg cleanly on Nitro, but with the condition that Karl Malone & DDP get involved to prompt a Hogan/Dennis Rodman team to debut on PPV at Bash At The Beach. Hogan promoted the match on "The Tonight Show" and later teamed with Bischoff against DDP and Jay Leno HIMSELF!

The Hogan celebrity tag team matches stole all the attention while WCW Champion Goldberg was all but ignored.

1999 - After six months without the title, and still being the top guy, Hogan regained the title from Kevin Nash in the "Fingerpoke of Doom" incident. Openly flaunting his creative control clause. He would lose the title, but not cleanly to Ric Flair.

When the NWO angle began to lose serious steam, Hogan turned face again. Randy Savage had recently turned heel and regained the WCW Title.

Once again, this time conviently as a face, Hogan defeated Savage to regain the title.

Despite having names like Hart, Luger and Sting to work with Savage - the title went baclk to Hogan. At his request.

2000 - Hogan begins feuding with WCW booker Vince Russo over how he's being used. Russo wanted to push younger stars and to appease Russo only, Hogan worked with young Billy Kidman.

When a WCW Title match with Jeff Jarrett was booked, Russo had Jarrett winning. Hogan refused, because his contract with WCW was almost up and he feared Russo wouldn't use him on future PPV events. Meaning Hogan would lose out on serious cash.

Russo pulled a swerve on Hogan by having Jarrett lay down for him intentionally. Hogan did so, winning the belt - then was immeditaely stripped of it.

Hogan was never seen in WCW again.

2002 - Hogan accepts an offer to return to WWE and reunite the original NWO, with the understanding he would be in a featured match with The Rock at Wrestlemania X8.

Hogan scored a huge deal from WWE, and agreed to put over The Rock. He suggests they close the show as he felt "they had drawn the crowd" - but McMahon and specifically Triple H refuse to put the WWE Title match in a secondary role.

Hogan is later booked to win the title from Triple H, but is dissapointed when it comes with the condition he drop it to Undertaker a month later.

After being booked to lose to Kurt Angle at KOTR 2002, Hogan decided he needed time off again. Despite only having been back for all of four months.

Hogan is convinced to stay long enough to get in a quick tag team championship win with Edge. He is then asked to put over Brock Lesnar, which he does.

He is dissatisfied with his role, because he isn't be portrayed the way "he thought he would". He takes another "extended break" after the Lesnar match.

2003 - He returns at the request of Vince McMahon and the promise of a big Wrestlemania payday. Their street fight is a featured match on the card.

With the WWE Title now revolving around much younger wrestlers, Hogan is frustrated by Creatives decision to book him in a secondary role on Smackdown and he leaves WWE again.
2004 - Hogan is openly courted by TNA Wrestling, but the deal hits a snag when Hogan was reportedly told he would have to put over Jarrett at some point. Hogan begins to complain of "knee problems" as the deal falls apart.

2005 - Hogan is inducted into the Hall of Fame, and agrees to the idea of a Hogan/Shawn Michaels match at Summerslam.

McMahon proposes two matches, with each winning one. Hogan agrees.

After spending all of his comeback as a face, HBK agrees to turn heel to sell the match.

Michaels carries a clearly laboring Hogan through a decent match at Summerslam, and HBK does the clean job to Hogan.

The second match in the series is called off, when Hogan began to complain "his knee was acting up again".

Hence, the Hogan win over HBK stands as their one and only meeting.

2005 - Hogan proposes the"Dream Match" scenario of Hogan vs Steve Austin to WWE Creative for Wrestlemania. Austin says no - citing the HBK scenario at Summerslam. He refuses to put Hogan over.

2006 - Hogan is asked to appear at Summerslam and face Randy Orton. He agrees with the rumoured condition that WWE pushes his daughter Brooke's debut CD.

Instead of putting over "The Legend Killer", Hogan flexes his "creative control".

Despite being 53, having wrestled one match in over a year, and bad knees, Hogan defeats the 26 year old former World Champion via clean pinfall.
 
Channeling my inner Sheik, I say: fuck you, Hulk Hogan.


Hogan refusing to put over Bret has always bothered me, as a pro wrestling fan.
 
I haven't been a Hogan fan for a very long time now due to reasons like that. Assuming that list is mostly accurate, my reasons were only a fraction of how bad he is. What a revolting piece of crap.
 
Wow... I knew some of this stuff about Hogan, but not the whole story. This is just crazy. how the fuck could you NOT wanna put Hart over? Hitman was fuckin amazing and worked circles around Hogan! And he didn't wanna work Steamboat? Hogan is a fucking idiot. I already agreed with Bret when he said what he did about Hogan getting everything he deserved lately and reading through this just reinforces it. But, reading through this makes me wonder what went and still does go on behind the scenes with someone like Triple H? Hmmmm...
 
[quote name='ShinSolidus']Wow... I knew some of this stuff about Hogan, but not the whole story. This is just crazy. how the fuck could you NOT wanna put Hart over? Hitman was fuckin amazing and worked circles around Hogan! And he didn't wanna work Steamboat? Hogan is a fucking idiot. I already agreed with Bret when he said what he did about Hogan getting everything he deserved lately and reading through this just reinforces it. But, reading through this makes me wonder what went and still does go on behind the scenes with someone like Triple H? Hmmmm...[/QUOTE]

While he was an asshole, Hogan was a genius. He solidified his bank account while stepping on the careers of others. I may not like what he's done, but he is one slick son of a fuck.
 
[quote name='HydroX']While he was an asshole, Hogan was a genius. He solidified his bank account while stepping on the careers of others. I may not like what he's done, but he is one slick son of a fuck.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, you're right about him having big bank because of assholery, but, karma's a bitch. He lost half his money from the divorce, and he's a broken old fuck. I'm guessing he's in TNA because he needs money, not to help them out.
 
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