Xbox Deals and Discussion

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Welcome to the Xbox Deals and Discussion thread.

General info

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• You cannot currently buy any Xbox 360 content on xbox.com using your account balance, you can only use an active credit card or PayPal. To use your balance, you must make purchases on your console. Unfortunately, even "purchasing" free content through the web site like trials requires an alternative method of payment tied to your account, though adding an empty MasterCard / Visa gift card that is registered for online purchases will work. Xbox One games can be purchased on the web site with your account balance.
• Some sales are intended for Gold subscribers only, as noted within each section.
  On Xbox One, Gold trials of any length work for sales and Games with Gold. You must be an active Gold subscriber (paid or trial) to play Games with Gold purchases.
• On Xbox 360, you must have at least a 1 month Gold subscription for sales and Games with Gold. Neither 48 hour trials, 14 day trials nor free weekends qualify.

• All known sales and information on sales should make their way into the OP. Major Nelson usually updates his blog with new sales information every Tuesday.
• ALL OFFERS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE! No information within this thread can or should be construed as accurate (or still valid), therefore ...
• Always verify Xbox Live Marketplace prices before your purchase!
• Spend wisely, have fun, and enjoy!

Latest Sales Posts​

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May 22 - Warhammer​

May 21 - "Just for Everyone" deals - Party Games​

May 20 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance​

May 16 - Mid-week drops​

May 13 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance​

May 13 - Non-BC discounts​

May 6 - Weekly Sale​

Apr 29 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance​

Apr 22 - Weekly Sale - Last chance​

Apr 18 - Game Pass Super Saver / Publisher Spotlight​

Apr 15 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance​

Apr 8 - Weekly Sale - Last chance (discounts ending morning of Apr 9)​

Apr 4 - Spring Sale - Part 2​

Apr 1 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

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Mar 28 - Spring Sale Sneak Preview​

Mar 25 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Mar 18 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Mar 11 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Mar 4 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Feb 26 - Weekly Sale​

Feb 19 - Weekly Sale​

Feb 14 - Anime Month, Pt 2​

Feb 12 - Weekly Sale​

Feb 5 - Weekly Sale​

Jan 31 - Anime Month​

Jan 29 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Jan 22 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Jan 16 - Exoprimal / Street Fighter 6​

Jan 15 - Weekly Sale​

Jan 8 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Jan 2 - Last Chance Sale​

Jan 1 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Dec 25 - Weekly Sale​

Dec 18 - Weekly Sale​

Countdown Sale - Post 1 - Post 2 - Post 3 - Follow up​

Latest Countdown Posts​

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May 20 - Pre-weekly countdown​

May 13 - Pre-weekly countdown​

May 6 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Apr 29 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Apr 22 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Apr 15 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Apr 8 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Apr 4 - Spring Sale final preview​

Apr 1 - Pre-weekly countdown, with Spring Sale​

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Mar 28 - Spring Sale Sneak Preview​

Mar 25 - Pre-weekly countdown, with Spring Sale​

Mar 18 - Pre-weekly countdown, with Spring Sale​

Mar 12 - Initial Spring Sale list​

Mar 11 - Post-weekly countdown​

Mar 4 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Feb 26 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Feb 19 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Feb 12 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Feb 5 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Jan 29 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Jan 22 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Jan 15 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Jan 8 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Jan 2 - Last chance countdown​

Jan 1 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Dec 25 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Dec 18 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Dec 14 - Look ahead at Dec 18 weekly​

Game Pass potential departure dates​

Last updated - 2024-05-21

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What is this?

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Game prices in the Xbox store have a UTC end date associated with them. These dates generally fall into 5 categories :

1. The item is currently on sale. These are usually the weekly sale items that end Tuesday mornings at 09:59:59 UTC.
2. The item will go on sale, usually within 2-3 weeks. These are usually set to switch at 23:59:59 UTC, like the weekly sale on Monday evenings. Some of the major annual sales (Spring, Summer, Black Friday, Holiday) start on Thursday evening UTC, and some times appear to be random.
3. The item is on Game Pass and is not currently or going to be on sale in the next few weeks. Third party games generally cluster around 09:59:59 UTC on the 1st and 16th of each month. Currently, at least one game is associated with every 1st and 16th through January 2025. The dates then spread out, ending with Human Fall Flat on July 1, 2028.
4. First party and EA Play titles are farther out, starting in 2049, with many in 2799 and 9998.
5. No date - some items do not have a price and so don't have a date. If the item is part of a bundle that has a price, the date from the bundle is used.

The list below uses the dates associated with games on Game Pass and EA Play. Time stamps in red are the regular Game Pass departure times and titles in red are confirmed to be leaving, either from Microsoft's regular news postings or by devs / publishers. Items available through Game Pass Core, currently on sale or not available for purchase are also color coded.

The date associated with a Game Pass game is not a guarantee it will leave on that date, but since March 2023 when the price data started getting analyzed, every game that's left Game Pass had been flagged as leaving on that date. It's given a number of people an extra heads up on the generally 2 week notice Microsoft provides.

If you have any questions about the list, please ask in the thread.

Most likely current and pending sales

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2024-05-27 23:59:59

Airborne Kingdom​

Assassin's Creed® Odyssey​

Assassin's Creed® Origins​

Atomic Heart​

Atomic Heart (Windows) (PC)​

Call of the Wild: The Angler™​

Car Mechanic Simulator 2021​

Cities: Skylines - Xbox One Edition​

Dead Cells - Game Pass Core​

Far Cry® 6​

Farworld Pioneers​

FOR HONOR​

From Space​

House Flipper​

Human Fall Flat - Game Pass Core​

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All-Star Battle R​

Jurassic World Evolution 2​

Lightyear Frontier (Game Preview)​

Medieval Dynasty​

MLB® The Show™ 24 Xbox One (Not available for purchase)​

MLB® The Show™ 24 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase)​

Monster Hunter Rise​

Monster Sanctuary​

Ni no Kuni Wrath of the White Witch™ Remastered​

No Man's Sky​

PAC-MAN MUSEUM+​

PAYDAY 3​

Scorn​

SnowRunner​

SnowRunner (Windows 10) (PC)​

Tales of Arise​

theHunter: Call of the Wild™​

2024-05-28 09:59:59

A Plague Tale: Requiem​

A Plague Tale: Requiem - Windows (PC)​

A Way Out - EA Play - 2019-11-02​

Batman™: Arkham Knight​

Battlefield™ 1 Revolution - EA Play -​

Battlefield™ 2042 Xbox One - EA Play -​

Battlefield™ 2042 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2022-11-22​

Battlefield™ V (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2020-06-20​

Burnout™ Paradise Remastered - EA Play - 2018-11-11​

Chants of Sennaar​

Coral Island​

Dead Space - EA Play - 2023-10-26​

EA SPORTS™ PGA TOUR™ - EA Play -​

Evil West​

Far Cry® 5​

Forager​

Golf With Your Friends - Game Pass Core​

Gotham Knights​

GRID Legends - EA Play - 2022-09-01​

Headbangers: Rhythm Royale​

Immortals of Aveum™ - EA Play -​

Insurgency: Sandstorm​

It Takes Two - Digital Version - EA Play - 2021-11-03​

Killer Instinct: Anniversary Edition​

Kona​

LEGO® Star Wars™: The Skywalker Saga (Game Pass only SKU) (Not available for purchase)​

Like a Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name​

Like a Dragon: Ishin!​

Lost in Random™ - EA Play - 2022-04-13​

Madden NFL 24 - EA Play -​

Madden NFL 24 Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​

Madden NFL 24 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​

Mass Effect™ Legendary Edition - EA Play -​

Middle-earth™: Shadow of War™​

Mineko's Night Market​

Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord​

Need for Speed Rivals - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

Need for Speed™ - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

Need for Speed™ Heat - EA Play - 2020-07-14​

Need for Speed™ Hot Pursuit Remastered - EA Play - 2021-06-25​

Need for Speed™ Payback - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

Need for Speed™ Unbound - EA Play - 2023-06-22​

NHL® 24 Xbox One - EA Play -​

NHL® 24 Xbox Series X|S - EA Play -​

Overcooked! 2 - Game Pass Core​

Persona 3 Reload​

Plants vs. Zombies Garden Warfare - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

Plants vs. Zombies™ Garden Warfare 2 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

Shadow Warrior 3: Definitive Edition​

Skate 3 - EA Play -​

Slay The Spire - Game Pass Core​

STAR WARS Jedi: Fallen Order™ - EA Play - 2020-11-10​

STAR WARS Jedi: Survivor™ - EA Play -​

STAR WARS™ Battlefront™ II - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

STAR WARS™: Squadrons - EA Play -​

Super Mega Baseball™ 4 - EA Play -​

Titanfall® 2 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon® Wildlands - Standard Edition (Game Pass only SKU)​

Unpacking - Game Pass Core​

Unravel Two - EA Play - 2019-01-19​

Wasteland 3​

While the Iron's Hot​

WILD HEARTS™ Standard Edition - EA Play -​

Yakuza 0​

Yakuza 0 for Windows 10 (PC)​

Yakuza 3 Remastered​

Yakuza 3 Remastered for Windows 10 (PC)​

Yakuza 4 Remastered​

Yakuza 4 Remastered for Windows 10 (PC)​

Yakuza 5 Remastered​

Yakuza 5 Remastered for Windows 10 (PC)​

Yakuza 6: The Song of Life​

Yakuza 6: The Song of Life for Windows 10 (PC)​

Yakuza Kiwami​

Yakuza Kiwami 2​

Yakuza Kiwami 2 for Windows 10 (PC)​

Yakuza Kiwami for Windows 10 (PC)​

Yakuza: Like a Dragon​

2024-05-21 15:59:59

NHL® 23 Xbox One - EA Play - 2023-04-13​

NHL® 23 Xbox Series X|S - EA Play - 2023-04-13​

2024-05-21 23:59:59

Killer Instinct: Anniversary Edition (PC)​

2024-05-22 23:59:59

Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun​

Warhammer 40,000: Darktide​

2024-05-23 13:59:59

Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes​

Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes (Not available for purchase)​

Football Manager 2024 (PC)​

Football Manager 2024 Console​

2024-05-23 23:59:59

Diablo® IV (Not available for purchase)​

2024-05-25 15:59:59

Another Crab's Treasure​

2024-05-26 12:59:59

Manor Lords (Game Preview) (PC)​

2024-05-27 09:59:59

Hell Let Loose​

2024-05-29 17:59:59

The Rewinder​

2024-06-01 09:59:59

Assassin's Creed® Origins​

Batman™: Arkham Knight​

Chicory: A Colorful Tale​

Cricket 22​

Farworld Pioneers​

FOR HONOR​

Generation Zero®​

Insurgency: Sandstorm​

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All-Star Battle R​

LEGO® Star Wars™: The Skywalker Saga (Game Pass only SKU) (Not available for purchase)​

Little Witch in the Woods (Game Preview)​

NINJA GAIDEN 3: Razor's Edge (Not available for purchase)​

NINJA GAIDEN Σ (Not available for purchase)​

NINJA GAIDEN Σ2 (Not available for purchase)​

NINJA GAIDEN: Master Collection​

PAC-MAN MUSEUM+​

Railway Empire 2​

Railway Empire 2 (Win) (PC)​

Rune Factory 4 Special​

Rune Factory 4 Special - Windows Edition (PC)​

Soccer Story​

Spacelines from the Far Out​

2024-06-08 15:59:59

Little Kitty, Big City​

2024-06-16 09:59:59

ASTRONEER - Game Pass Core​

Dordogne​

Dordogne (Windows) (PC)​

High On Life​

Mortal Kombat 11​

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge - Game Pass Core​

The Bookwalker: Thief of Tales​

2024-06-16 23:59:59

Lightyear Frontier (Game Preview)​

2024-06-17 03:59:59

MLB® The Show™ 24 Xbox One (Not available for purchase)​

MLB® The Show™ 24 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase)​

2024-06-18 08:59:59

The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited (Not available for purchase)​

2024-06-20 07:59:59

Senua’s Saga: Hellblade II​

2024-06-23 09:59:59

Minecraft​

Minecraft Dungeons​

Minecraft Dungeons for Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Minecraft Dungeons for Windows + Launcher (PC)​

Minecraft for Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Minecraft Legends​

Minecraft Legends - Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Minecraft Legends for Windows + Launcher (PC)​

Minecraft: Java & Bedrock Edition for PC (PC)​

Minecraft: Java Edition (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

2024-06-26 15:59:59

Open Roads​

2024-07-01 09:59:59

Arcade Paradise​

Bramble: The Mountain King​

F.I.S.T.: Forged In Shadow Torch​

Far Cry® 5​

Injustice™ 2​

Injustice™ 2 - Standard Edition (PC)​

STORY OF SEASONS: Friends of Mineral Town - Digital Edition​

STORY OF SEASONS: Friends of Mineral Town - Windows Edition (PC)​

STORY OF SEASONS: Friends of Mineral Town - Windows Edition (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

STORY OF SEASONS: Friends of Mineral Town (Not available for purchase)​

Stranded Deep​

Stranded Deep (PC)​

Sword and Fairy: Together Forever​

2024-07-08 13:59:59

Botany Manor​

Botany Manor (PC)​

2024-07-15 12:59:59

Harold Halibut​

2024-07-16 09:59:59

Coffee Talk Episode 2: Hibiscus and Butterfly​

Common'hood​

Figment 2: Creed Valley​

Forager​

Forager (PC)​

Frostpunk (PC)​

Frostpunk: Console Edition​

Middle-earth™: Shadow of War™ (moved from 2024-01-01)​

My Friend Peppa Pig​

Neon Abyss​

Neon Abyss (PC)​

Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion (PC)​

The Wandering Village (Game Preview)​

TOEM​

Watch Dogs®2​

2024-08-01 09:59:59

A Short Hike​

Genesis Noir​

Genesis Noir: Windows Edition (PC)​

Goat Simulator (moved from 2024-05-01)​

Inkulinati​

Roboquest​

This War of Mine: Final Cut (moved from 2024-05-16)​

Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon® Wildlands - Standard Edition (Game Pass only SKU)​

Train Sim World® 4 (Not available for purchase)​

Train Sim World® 4: Standard Edition​

Turbo Golf Racing​

Venba​

2024-08-16 09:59:59

Airborne Kingdom​

Atomic Heart​

Atomic Heart (Windows) (PC)​

Conan Exiles​

EVERSPACE™ 2​

HUMANKIND™​

HUMANKIND™ (PC)​

Offworld Trading Company (PC)​

Shadow Warrior 3: Definitive Edition​

Shadow Warrior 3: Definitive Edition (PC)​

The Texas Chain Saw Massacre​

The Texas Chain Saw Massacre - PC Edition (PC)​

2024-09-01 09:59:59

Call of the Wild: The Angler™​

Disney Dreamlight Valley​

Goat Simulator Windows 10 (PC)​

Guilty Gear -Strive-​

Immortals Fenyx Rising™​

NBA 2K24 for Xbox One​

NBA 2K24 for Xbox Series X|S​

2024-09-16 09:59:59

Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation (PC)​

Assassin's Creed® Odyssey​

Ni no Kuni™ II: Revenant Kingdom - The Prince's Edition​

Party Animals (moved from 2024-01-04)​

PAYDAY 3​

Slime Rancher 2​

SpiderHeck​

Valheim (Game Preview)​

You Suck at Parking® Complete Edition​

2024-10-01 09:59:59

Cocoon​

Gotham Knights​

Let's Build a Zoo​

Loop Hero​

My Time At Portia (moved from 2024-01-09)​

My Time At Portia (PC)​

PAW Patrol: Grand Prix​

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trilogy​

The Walking Dead: Season 1 (PC)​

The Walking Dead: Season 2 (PC)​

Warhammer 40,000: Darktide​

2024-10-16 09:59:59

Dyson Sphere Program (Game Preview) (PC)​

F1® Manager 2023​

From Space​

Like a Dragon: Ishin!​

Scorn​

Stellaris (PC)​

Stellaris: Console Edition​

2024-11-01 09:59:59

Deep Rock Galactic - Game Pass Core​

Football Manager 2024 (PC)​

Football Manager 2024 Console​

Frog Detective: The Entire Mystery (moved from 2023-11-01)​

Headbangers: Rhythm Royale​

Lonely Mountains: Downhill​

Mineko's Night Market​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 2 (PC)​

2024-11-16 09:59:59

Dicey Dungeons​

Dune: Spice Wars​

Dungeons 4​

Dungeons 4 (Win) (PC)​

Like a Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name​

Persona 5 Tactica​

Somerville​

2024-12-01 09:59:59

Amnesia: The Bunker​

Car Mechanic Simulator 2021​

Clone Drone in the Danger Zone​

Monster Sanctuary​

Monster Sanctuary (Windows Version) (PC)​

Moonlighter​

PAW Patrol Mighty Pups Save Adventure Bay​

Remnant: From the Ashes​

Rise of the Tomb Raider (PC)​

Rollerdrome​

Spirit of the North: Enhanced Edition​

The Walking Dead: The Final Season - The Complete Season​

The Walking Dead: The Final Season (PC)​

While the Iron's Hot​

World War Z: Aftermath​

World War Z: Aftermath (PC)​

2024-12-16 09:59:59

Ben 10: Power Trip​

Hello Neighbor 2​

No Man's Sky​

Rainbow Billy: The Curse of the Leviathan​

The Gunk​

The Quarry for Xbox One​

The Quarry for Xbox Series X|S​

Tin Hearts​

2025-01-01 09:59:59

BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle Special Edition​

Close to the Sun​

Close to the Sun. (PC)​

Death's Door​

Death's Door (PC)​

Hell Let Loose​

House Flipper​

LEGO® 2K Drive Cross-Gen Standard Edition​

LEGO® 2K Drive for Xbox One​

LEGO® 2K Drive for Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase)​

McPixel 3​

2025-01-16 09:59:59

Exoprimal​

Figment: Journey Into the Mind​

Insurgency: Sandstorm (Windows) (PC)​

Maquette​

Medieval Dynasty (moved from 2024-02-16)​

Medieval Dynasty (Xbox One)​

Palworld (Game Preview)​

Those Who Remain​

Those Who Remain. (PC)​

2025-02-01 09:59:59

Anuchard​

Broforce​

Brotato​

Crusader Kings III​

Crusader Kings III (PC)​

Darkest Dungeon PC (PC)​

Darkest Dungeon®​

Escape Academy​

Go Mecha Ball​

Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord (moved from 2024-02-16)​

Persona 3 Reload​

Serious Sam: Siberian Mayhem​

Serious Sam: Siberian Mayhem (PC)​

2025-02-16 09:59:59

A Little to the Left​

Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night​

Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night (PC)​

Return to Grace​

Tales of Arise​

Tales of Arise (Windows) (PC)​

Tales of Arise (Xbox One) (Not available for purchase)​

Tales of Arise (Xbox Series X|S) (Not available for purchase)​

2025-03-01 09:59:59

Bluey: The Videogame​

Dead Island 2​

GRIS​

Gris (PC)​

Indivisible​

Indivisible (PC)​

Maneater​

Merge & Blade​

PAW Patrol World​

Space Engineers​

Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun​

Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun - Windows (PC)​

Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty (Not available for purchase)​

2025-03-16 09:59:59

Evil West​

Evil West (Windows) (PC)​

Lies of P​

No More Heroes 3 Windows (PC)​

No More Heroes 3 Xbox​

No More Heroes 3 Xbox​

Solar Ash​

SpongeBob SquarePants: Battle for Bikini Bottom - Rehydrated​

SpongeBob SquarePants: Battle for Bikini Bottom - Rehydrated (PC)​

TUNIC (moved from 2024-04-01)​

2025-04-01 09:59:59

HOT WHEELS UNLEASHED™ 2 - Turbocharged​

Lil Gator Game​

Monster Hunter Rise (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Terra Invicta (Game Preview) (PC)​

The Lamplighters League - PC Edition (PC)​

The Yakuza Remastered Collection (moved from 2024-04-01)​

The Yakuza Remastered Collection for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 0 (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 0 for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 3 Remastered (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 3 Remastered for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 4 Remastered (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 4 Remastered for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 5 Remastered (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 5 Remastered for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 6: The Song of Life (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 6: The Song of Life for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza Kiwami (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza Kiwami 2 (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza Kiwami 2 for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza Kiwami for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza: Like a Dragon (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Zombie Army 4: Dead War​

2025-04-16 09:59:59

A Plague Tale: Requiem​

A Plague Tale: Requiem - Windows (PC)​

Coral Island​

Homestead Arcana​

Kona​

Orcs Must Die! 3​

Rise of the Tomb Raider (Not available for purchase)​

Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Not available for purchase)​

Shadow of the Tomb Raider Definitive Edition​

2025-05-01 09:59:59

Have a Nice Death​

Kona II: Brume​

Sniper Elite 5​

The Last Case of Benedict Fox: Definitive Edition​

Thirsty Suitors​

Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition​

2025-05-16 09:59:59

Brothers: a Tale of Two Sons​

Brothers: a Tale of Two Sons (PC)​

Chants of Sennaar (Windows) (PC)​

Farming Simulator 22​

Farming Simulator 22 PC (PC)​

Jurassic World Evolution 2​

Planet of Lana​

2025-06-01 09:59:59

Against the Storm (PC)​

Cassette Beasts​

Goat Simulator 3​

Goat Simulator 3: Windows Edition (PC)​

Hypnospace Outlaw​

PAYDAY 2: CRIMEWAVE EDITION - Game Pass Core​

Remnant II® - Standard Edition​

Slayers X: Terminal Aftermath: Vengance of the Slayer​

The Big Con​

2025-06-16 09:59:59

Far Cry® 6​

Shadowrun Returns​

Shadowrun Trilogy​

Shadowrun: Dragonfall - Director's Cut​

Shadowrun: Hong Kong - Extended Edition​

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six® Siege (Not available for purchase)​

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six® Siege Deluxe Edition​

2025-07-15 09:59:59

Turnip Boy Robs a Bank​

2025-07-16 09:59:59

Assassin's Creed® Valhalla​

2025-08-01 09:59:59

Cooking Simulator (moved from 2024-02-16)​

Cooking Simulator Windows (PC) (moved from 2024-02-16)​

Starbound (PC) (moved from 2024-05-01)​

2025-08-16 09:59:59

PlateUp!​

2025-09-01 09:59:59

Sea of Stars​

2025-09-16 09:59:59

RESIDENT EVIL 2​

2025-10-16 09:59:59

Cities: Skylines II - PC Edition (PC)​

RESIDENT EVIL 3 for Windows (PC)​

2025-11-01 09:59:59

Jusant​

Return to Monkey Island​

Wartales​

2025-11-16 09:59:59

Spirittea​

2025-12-01 09:59:59

SteamWorld Build​

2025-12-16 09:59:59

Hollow Knight: Voidheart Edition​

2026-04-01 09:59:59

Cities: Skylines - Remastered​

Cities: Skylines - Windows 10 Edition (PC)​

Cities: Skylines - Xbox One Edition​

2026-05-01 09:59:59

Citizen Sleeper​

DayZ (moved from 2024-05-01)​

Descenders - Game Pass Core​

2026-05-16 09:59:59

Shadowrun Returns PC (PC)​

Shadowrun: Dragonfall - Director's Cut PC (PC)​

Shadowrun: Hong Kong - Extended Edition PC (PC)​

2026-06-01 09:59:59

Dead by Daylight​

Dead by Daylight Windows (PC)​

theHunter: Call of the Wild™​

theHunter: Call of the Wild™ - Windows 10 (PC)​

2026-06-16 09:59:59

Among Us - Game Pass Core​

2026-07-01 09:59:59

Slay The Spire - Game Pass Core​

Slay The Spire (PC)​

Unpacking - Game Pass Core​

2026-07-16 09:59:59

Golf With Your Friends - Game Pass Core​

Golf With Your Friends (Windows Version) (PC)​

PowerWash Simulator - Game Pass Core (moved from 2024-07-16)​

Techtonica (Game Preview)​

2026-08-01 09:59:59

Celeste - Game Pass Core​

INSIDE - Game Pass Core​

2026-08-16 09:59:59

Firewatch - Game Pass Core​

LIMBO - Game Pass Core​

LIMBO (PC)​

2026-09-16 09:59:59

Dead Cells - Game Pass Core​

Dead Cells (PC)​

Spiritfarer®: Farewell Edition - Game Pass Core​

Superliminal - Game Pass Core​

2026-10-01 09:59:59

Chivalry 2 - Game Pass Core​

2026-11-16 09:59:59

Wreckfest - Game Pass Core​

Wreckfest (PC)​

2026-12-01 09:59:59

Stardew Valley - Game Pass Core​

Stardew Valley (PC)​

Totally Reliable Delivery Service - Game Pass Core​

Vampire Survivors - Game Pass Core​

2027-02-01 09:59:59

Trailmakers​

2027-03-16 09:59:59

Control​

Control Standard Edition - Control Expansion Pack 1 The Foundation (PC)​

Control Standard Edition - Control Expansion Pack 2 AWE (PC)​

Control Standard Edition (PC)​

Control Ultimate Edition​

Control Ultimate Edition - Xbox Series X|S​

Control Ultimate Edition (PC)​

2027-04-01 09:59:59

SUPERHOT: MIND CONTROL DELETE - Game Pass Core​

2027-05-01 09:59:59

SnowRunner (moved from 2024-05-01)​

SnowRunner (Windows 10) (PC) (moved from 2024-05-01)​

2027-06-01 09:59:59

Terraria​

2027-06-16 09:59:59

Totally Accurate Battle Simulator​

2027-12-16 09:59:59

Overcooked! 2 - Game Pass Core​

Overcooked! 2 (PC)​

2028-07-01 09:59:59

Human Fall Flat - Game Pass Core​

Far future dates, mostly first party and EA Play

Spoiler

2048-12-30 23:59:59

Dead Space - EA Play - 2023-10-26​

EA SPORTS™ PGA TOUR™ - EA Play -​

F1® 23 - EA Play -​

GRID Legends - EA Play - 2022-09-01​

Madden NFL 24 - EA Play -​

Super Mega Baseball™ 4 - EA Play -​

WILD HEARTS™ Standard Edition - EA Play -​

2049-12-30 23:59:59

Age of Empires IV: Anniversary Edition​

Age of Empires IV: Anniversary Edition (4K HDR bundle) (PC)​

Madden NFL 24 Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​

Madden NFL 24 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​

NHL® 24 Xbox One - EA Play -​

NHL® 24 Xbox Series X|S - EA Play -​

2098-12-31 23:59:59

Battlefield™ 1 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

NBA LIVE 19 - EA Play - 2019-05-10​

Plants vs. Zombies™ Garden Warfare 2 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

2099-02-01 19:59:59

Halo Wars 2: Standard Edition - Game Pass Core​

2099-04-04 09:59:59

Halo Wars 2 (Not available for purchase)​

2099-04-18 09:59:59

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 2​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 3​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 4​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 5​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Season Pass (Episodes 2-5)​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - The Complete Season (Episodes 1-5)​

2099-10-02 23:59:59

Forza Horizon 4 - Forza Horizon 4 Formula Drift Car Pack​

2099-12-29 23:59:59

State of Decay 2: Juggernaut Edition - Game Pass Core​

2100-06-12 23:59:59

Max: The Curse of Brotherhood​

2220-10-06 03:59:59

Need for Speed™ Hot Pursuit Remastered - EA Play - 2021-06-25​

2220-10-13 23:59:59

Mass Effect™ Legendary Edition - EA Play -​

2220-10-22 23:59:59

Battlefield™ V (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2020-06-20​

2220-12-11 23:59:59

It Takes Two - Digital Version - EA Play - 2021-11-03​

2779-12-30 23:59:59

DIRT 5 - EA Play - 2021-08-10​

DiRT Rally 2.0 - EA Play - 2021-08-10​

2798-12-30 21:59:59

Wasteland Remastered​

2798-12-31 23:59:59

Fuzion Frenzy®​

The Elder Scrolls® Online - Game Pass Core​

Zoo Tycoon: Ultimate Animal Collection​

2799-01-14 23:59:59

Age of Empires III: Definitive Edition (PC)​

2799-02-01 09:59:59

Halo Wars 2 (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

2799-02-08 09:59:59

The Walking Dead: The Complete First Season​

2799-02-08 23:59:59

Forza Horizon 5 Standard Edition​

2799-02-17 23:59:59

Wolfenstein: Youngblood​

Wolfenstein: Youngblood (PC) (PC)​

2799-02-28 09:59:59

The Walking Dead: Season Two​

2799-03-02 23:59:59

Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary (PC)​

2799-03-07 23:59:59

Halo Infinite (Campaign)​

2799-03-11 23:59:59

Dishonored® Definitive Edition​

Dishonored® Definitive Edition (PC) (PC)​

DOOM (1993)​

DOOM 3​

DOOM 64​

DOOM II (Classic)​

Fallout 4 - Game Pass Core​

Fallout 4 (PC) (PC)​

Oblivion​

Prey (Cloud Gaming enabled)​

Prey (PC)​

The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind​

The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind Game of the Year Edition (PC) (PC)​

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Game of the Year Edition (PC) (PC)​

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition (PC) (PC)​

The Evil Within​

The Evil Within (PC) (PC)​

Wolfenstein: The New Order​

Wolfenstein: The New Order (PC) (PC)​

Wolfenstein: The Old Blood​

Wolfenstein: The Old Blood (PC) (PC)​

2799-03-16 23:59:59

DOOM Eternal (BATTLEMODE - PC) (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Fallout 76 - Game Pass Core​

Fallout 76 - PC (PC)​

2799-03-17 23:59:59

DOOM Eternal (BATTLEMODE) (Not available for purchase) - Game Pass Core​

2799-03-20 23:59:59

Sea of Thieves: 2024 Edition​

2799-03-24 07:59:59

Bleeding Edge​

2799-03-26 23:59:59

Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition​

2799-03-28 09:59:59

The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 1, In Too Deep​

The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 1, In Too Deep - The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 2, Give No Shelter​

The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 1, In Too Deep - The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 3, What We Deserve​

The Walking Dead: Michonne - The Complete Season​

2799-03-28 23:59:59

Lost in Random™ - EA Play - 2022-04-13​

2799-04-10 23:59:59

Ori and the Will of the Wisps - Game Pass Core​

2799-04-29 23:59:59

Joy Ride Turbo​

2799-05-12 23:59:59

Psychonauts​

Psychonauts (Windows 10) (PC)​

2799-05-17 23:59:59

MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries​

2799-05-18 23:59:59

Wasteland 2: Director's Cut​

2799-05-31 23:59:59

Banjo Kazooie: N n B​

Banjo-Kazooie​

Banjo-Tooie​

Disneyland Adventures​

Fable III​

Gears of War​

Gears of War 2​

Gears of War: Judgment​

Gears of War: Ultimate Edition (Not available for purchase)​

Halo 5: Guardians - Game Pass Core​

Halo: Spartan Assault​

Jetpac Refuelled​

Kameo​

Perfect Dark Zero​

Rush: A DisneyPixar Adventure​

Sunset Overdrive​

Viva Piñata​

Viva Piñata: TIP​

2799-06-09 05:59:59

Crackdown 3​

Crackdown 3: Campaign (Not available for purchase)​

Crackdown 3: Wrecking Zone (Not available for purchase)​

Forza Horizon 4 Standard Edition - Game Pass Core​

Gears of War 4​

Gears of War: Ultimate Edition for Windows 10 (PC)​

Halo: Spartan Assault (Mobile / PC)​

Halo: Spartan Strike​

Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice (PC)​

Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition (PC)​

ReCore​

2799-06-09 06:58:59

Halo Wars 2: Standard Edition (PC) - Game Pass Core​

Sunset Overdrive (PC)​

2799-06-09 23:59:59

Gears 5​

The Outer Worlds​

The Outer Worlds (PC)​

2799-06-13 18:59:59

Arx Fatalis (PC)​

BATTLETECH (PC)​

Dishonored®: Death of the Outsider™​

Dishonored®: Death of the Outsider™ (PC) (PC)​

DOOM​

Fallout (PC)​

Fallout 2 (PC)​

Fallout 3​

Fallout 3: Game of the Year Edition (PC)​

Fallout Tactics (PC)​

Fallout: New Vegas Ultimate Edition (PC)​

Psychonauts 2 - Game Pass Core​

RAGE​

The Evil Within® 2​

The Evil Within® 2 (PC) (PC)​

Wolfenstein II: Standard Edition (PC)​

Wolfenstein® II: The New Colossus™​

2799-06-14 23:59:59

ScreamRide​

2799-06-17 23:59:59

The Bard's Tale ARPG : Remastered and Resnarkled​

2799-06-21 23:59:59

The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited (Not available for purchase)​

2799-06-26 23:59:59

Torment: Tides of Numenera (PC)​

2799-06-30 23:59:59

Banjo Kazooie: N n B (Not available for purchase)​

Banjo-Kazooie (Not available for purchase)​

Banjo-Tooie (Not available for purchase)​

Fable II​

GoldenEye 007 (Not available for purchase)​

Jetpac Refuelled (Not available for purchase)​

Perfect Dark​

Perfect Dark (Not available for purchase)​

Perfect Dark Zero (Not available for purchase)​

Rare Replay​

Ryse: Legendary Edition​

Ryse: Son of Rome (Not available for purchase)​

State of Decay: Year-One (Not available for purchase)​

2799-07-13 23:59:59

Halo 3 (PC)​

2799-07-18 23:59:59

BLiNX: The Time Sweeper​

Crimson Skies®: High Road to Revenge™​

2799-07-21 23:59:59

Grounded - Game Pass Core​

2799-08-13 14:59:59

The Bard's Tale Trilogy​

2799-08-16 23:59:59

Microsoft Solitaire Collection​

2799-08-17 23:59:59

New Super Lucky's Tale​

2799-08-19 14:59:59

Age of Empires Definitive Edition (PC)​

2799-08-19 19:59:59

Quake​

Quake III Arena (PC)​

2799-08-19 23:59:59

Battletoads​

2799-08-24 23:59:59

Halo Infinite​

2799-08-27 14:59:59

The Bard's Tale IV: Director's Cut​

2799-08-31 23:59:59

Fable Anniversary - Game Pass Core​

Gears of War 3​

Mass Effect​

2799-09-19 23:59:59

Tell Me Why​

Tell Me Why - Tell Me Why: Chapter 2 (Not available for purchase)​

Tell Me Why - Tell Me Why: Chapter 3 (Not available for purchase)​

Tell Me Why: Chapters 1-3​

Wasteland 3​

Wasteland 3 (PC) (PC)​

2799-09-22 02:59:59

Halo 3: ODST (PC)​

2799-09-30 23:59:59

Dishonored 2 - Game Pass Core​

Dishonored 2 (PC)​

DOOM Eternal Standard Edition - Game Pass Core​

Phoenix Point​

2799-10-07 23:59:59

Brütal Legend​

2799-10-14 23:59:59

Fallout: New Vegas (BC)​

NHL® 23 Xbox One - EA Play - 2023-04-13​

NHL® 23 Xbox Series X|S - EA Play - 2023-04-13​

2799-10-27 23:59:59

Day of the Tentacle Remastered​

Full Throttle Remastered​

Grim Fandango Remastered​

2799-10-28 14:59:59

Age of Empires IV: Anniversary Edition (PC)​

2799-11-03 23:59:59

Minecraft Launcher (PC)​

2799-11-08 23:59:59

Battlefield™ 2042 Xbox One - EA Play -​

2799-11-09 15:59:59

Gears Tactics​

2799-11-14 23:59:59

Halo 4 (PC)​

Halo: Reach (PC)​

Halo: The Master Chief Collection​

Halo: The Master Chief Collection - Halo 3: ODST​

Halo: The Master Chief Collection - Halo: Reach​

Halo: The Master Chief Collection (PC)​

RAGE 2​

RAGE 2 (PC) (PC)​

2799-11-16 23:59:59

ARK: Survival Evolved Explorer's Edition (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

ARK: Survival Evolved Explorer's Edition (Not available for purchase)​

2799-11-23 00:59:59

Forza Horizon 5 (Not available for purchase)​

Forza Motorsport (Not available for purchase)​

2799-11-23 23:59:59

Gears 5 Game of the Year Edition - Game Pass Core​

2799-12-03 15:59:59

DOOM Eternal Standard Edition (PC) (PC)​

2799-12-07 23:59:59

Need for Speed™ Unbound - EA Play - 2023-06-22​

2799-12-11 23:59:59

Halo Wars: Definitive Edition (PC) (PC)​

2799-12-13 23:59:59

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition​

2799-12-17 23:59:59

Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice - Game Pass Core​

2799-12-30 23:59:59

Battlefield 4 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

Battlefield™ 2042 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2022-11-22​

Burnout™ Paradise Remastered - EA Play - 2018-11-11​

Fe - EA Play - 2018-09-03​

Mirror's Edge™ Catalyst - EA Play - 2019-05-14​

Need for Speed Rivals - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

Need for Speed™ - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

Need for Speed™ Heat - EA Play - 2020-07-14​

Need for Speed™ Payback - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

NHL® 94 REWIND - EA Play - 2021-03-01​

Peggle 2 - EA Play - 2019-05-14​

Plants vs. Zombies Garden Warfare - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

Plants vs. Zombies: Battle for Neighborville™ - EA Play - 2020-03-04​

STAR WARS Jedi: Fallen Order™ - EA Play - 2020-11-10​

STAR WARS™ Battlefront™ II - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

STAR WARS™: Squadrons - EA Play -​

Super Mega Baseball 3 - EA Play - 2022-03-03​

The Sims™ 4 - EA Play -​

The Sims™ 4 EA Play Edition (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-05-22​

Titanfall® 2 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

UFC® 4 - EA Play -​

Unravel - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

Unravel Two - EA Play - 2019-01-19​

2799-12-31 22:59:59

skate. (2007) - EA Play - 2021-08-05​

9998-12-30 00:00:00

A Way Out - EA Play - 2019-11-02​

Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition​

Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition (PC)​

Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition (Not available for purchase)​

Alice: Madness Returns - EA Play - 2019-10-25​

An Elder Scrolls Legend: Battlespire (PC)​

Anthem™ - EA Play - 2019-10-09​

ARK: Survival Ascended​

ARK: Ultimate Survivor Edition​

ARK: Ultimate Survivor Edition (PC)​

Army of Two™ - EA Play - 2018-11-11​

As Dusk Falls​

Battlefield 3™ - EA Play - 2011-10-08​

Battlefield™ 1 Revolution - EA Play -​

Battlefield™ Hardline (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2018-07-08​

Bejeweled 2 - EA Play - 2008-03-08​

Bejeweled 3 - EA Play - 2011-10-14​

BLACK™ - EA Play -​

Broken Age​

Broken Age (PC)​

Contrast​

Costume Quest​

Costume Quest 2​

Crysis - EA Play - 2020-07-09​

Crysis 2 - EA Play - 2020-07-09​

Dante's Inferno™ - EA Play - 2018-08-02​

Dead Space (2008) - EA Play - 2008-10-08​

Dead Space™ 2 - EA Play -​

Dead Space™ 3 - EA Play -​

Dead Space™ Ignition - EA Play - 2010-10-13​

DEATHLOOP​

Diablo® IV (Not available for purchase)​

Dragon Age: Origins - EA Play -​

Dragon Age™ 2 - EA Play -​

Dragon Age™: Inquisition (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2014-10-28​

Feeding Frenzy - EA Play - 2008-03-15​

Feeding Frenzy 2 - EA Play - 2008-09-17​

FIGHT NIGHT CHAMPION - EA Play -​

Forza Horizon 4 (Not available for purchase)​

Forza Motorsport Standard Edition​

Gang Beasts - Game Pass Core​

Ghostwire: Tokyo​

Halo 2: Anniversary (PC)​

Halo Wars: Definitive Edition​

Heavy Weapon - EA Play - 2008-03-15​

Hi-Fi RUSH​

Killer Instinct: Anniversary Edition​

Killer Instinct: Anniversary Edition (PC)​

Mass Effect 2 - EA Play -​

Mass Effect™ 3 - EA Play -​

Mass Effect™: Andromeda (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2017-03-15​

MASSIVE CHALICE​

Medal of Honor Airborne - EA Play - 2008-03-15​

Microsoft Flight Simulator (Not available for purchase)​

Microsoft Flight Simulator Standard 40th Anniversary Edition​

Minecraft​

Minecraft Dungeons​

Minecraft Dungeons for Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Minecraft Dungeons for Windows + Launcher (PC)​

Minecraft for Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Minecraft Legends​

Minecraft Legends - Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Minecraft Legends for Windows + Launcher (PC)​

Minecraft: Java & Bedrock Edition for PC (PC)​

Minecraft: Java Edition (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Mirror's Edge™ - EA Play - 2008-11-05​

MLB® The Show™ 24 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase)​

Ni no Kuni Wrath of the White Witch™ Remastered​

Peggle - EA Play - 2018-11-11​

Pentiment​

Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire - Ultimate Edition (PC) (PC)​

Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire - Ultimate Edition​

Pillars of Eternity: Complete Edition​

Pillars of Eternity: Definitive Edition (PC)​

Plants vs. Zombies - EA Play - 2010-09-24​

Quake 4 (PC)​

Quake II​

Quantum Break​

Quantum Break (PC)​

Redfall​

RESIDENT EVIL 3 for Xbox (Not available for purchase)​

Return to Castle Wolfenstein (PC)​

Rise of Nations: Extended Edition (PC)​

Sea of Solitude - EA Play - 2020-01-21​

Skate 3 - EA Play -​

SSX - EA Play - 2012-02-21​

Stacking​

STAR WARS™ Battlefront™ (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2018-11-11​

Starfield​

The Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard (PC)​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier (Episode 1) (PC)​

Torment: Tides of Numenera​

We Happy Few​

We Happy Few (PC)​

Wolfenstein 3D (PC)​

Zuma - EA Play - 2008-03-15​

Zuma's Revenge! - EA Play - 2012-07-07​

No set date

Assassin's Creed® Odyssey (Game Pass only SKU) (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Assassin's Creed® Origins (Game Pass only SKU) (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Assassin's Creed® Valhalla (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Crysis® 3 (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2020-07-09​

Diablo® IV PC (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

EA SPORTS™ FIFA 23 Standard Edition Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-05-16​

EA SPORTS™ FIFA 23 Standard Edition Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-05-16​

EA SPORTS™ UFC® 3 (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2020-08-19​

F1® 22 Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-06-30​

F1® 22 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-06-30​

Far Cry® 5 (Game Pass only SKU) (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Far Cry® 6 (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

FIFA 22 Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2021-11-21​

FIFA 22 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2021-11-21​

FOR HONOR : MARCHING FIRE EDITION (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

FOR HONOR : MARCHING FIRE EDITION (Not available for purchase)​

Immortals Fenyx Rising™ (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Iron Brigade - Rise of the Martian Bear (Not available for purchase)​

Iron Brigade (Not available for purchase)​

League of Legends (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Legends of Runeterra (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Madden NFL 23 Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-02-09​

Madden NFL 23 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-02-09​

Minecraft Preview (Not available for purchase)​

Minecraft Preview for Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

MLB® The Show™ 24 Xbox One (Not available for purchase)​

NHL® 21 (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2021-04-12​

Starfield - Starfield: Old Mars Skin Pack (Not available for purchase)​

Super Lucky's Tale (Not available for purchase)​

Teamfight Tactics (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

The Cave (Not available for purchase)​

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six® Siege (Game Pass only SKU) (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon® Wildlands - Standard Edition (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

VALORANT (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Watch Dogs®2 (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

 

[SIX min WHISTLE]

I don't think WQ was the "best" Bungie campaign but it was quite the return to old school, Halo 2/3/Reach on Legendary days, so it was a blast in that regard. But yeah, the seasonal model was and is still in place, so if that's not your bag, one good campaign for a few hours isn't going to change your mind. I'm fully invested now so I'm anxiously awaiting the showcase.

I don't know, maybe I have nostalgia goggles but I didn't think WQ came remotely close to the Halo Legendary campaigns. I only remember two tough parts, and a lack of overall variety.

Maybe it comes down to Halo having a pretty limited tool set? I steamrolled through almost everything with my main Sunbreaker build modified to use Severance Enclosure because Dunemarchers had been nerfed, healing when I picked up the hammer. Same loadout of Witherhoard, the BXR, and alternating different elements of rocket launchers for the entire story.

Location-wise it wasn't even on par with Forsaken, let alone a base Destiny game or Halo campaign.

 

[gunstar808]

The Gameflip addiction is real, lol. I bought New Super Lucky’s Tale, Huntdown and Legend Bowl within the last week or so. In other news, has anyone had trouble updating the Series Controller firmware? I’ve been trying to update my Lunar Shift controller to no avail.

Me: "wtf is Legend Bowl" goes to gameflip, insta buy.

Yup, stupid cheap games.

 

[SIX min WHISTLE]

This is surprising. Rockstar bought the team (company?) that makes/runs the servers for the extremely popular GTA Roleplay mods. As I understand it they were already pretty monetized, so that probably was about to kick into overdrive. This kind of mod being forced into corporate red tape seems like a negative to me, but I'm not the audience so I don't really know. Maybe it means console RP modes for GTA6.

https://twitter.com/RockstarGames/status/1689969964923432960?t=ZjnVDjuVM5Me9cdPDt2raw&s=19

 

[JohnnyCage]

This is surprising. Rockstar bought the team (company?) that makes/runs the servers for the extremely popular GTA Roleplay mods. As I understand it they were already pretty monetized, so that probably was about to kick into overdrive. This kind of mod being forced into corporate red tape seems like a negative to me, but I'm not the audience so I don't really know. Maybe it means console RP modes for GTA6.

https://twitter.com/RockstarGames/status/1689969964923432960?t=ZjnVDjuVM5Me9cdPDt2raw&s=19

I hate everything about GTA Online. Just hoping that it doesn't affect the quality of the single player story.

 

[Z-Saber]

I hate everything about GTA Online. Just hoping that it doesn't affect the quality of the single player story.

Fully, totally, and completely unrelated to anything you said.

 

[Donken]

I'm still plugging away because we got the "free" BP. I've only unlocked 1 of the experience ashes so far but the seasonal bonuses feel like a joke. I never played D3 but I was under the impression that leveling seasonal characters was supposed to be faster. I've been trying to craft a wrathful invoker to complete the challenge, and now I read they had the crafting rate for it set to 2 or 3%. WHY? It feels like too many of their design choices are made to make you waste time, so I'm bouncing after this season until an expansion is released.

The Battlepass rewards have for sure been underwhelming. Also, it feels like they lowered the regular xp gains just so you have to use the smoldering ashes to get those xp boosts to bring you back to normal xp again, its really not a great feeling. They are really screwing up on Overwatch 2 and on this Diablo 4 stuff.

 

[Freeze Time]

So what are some of your predictions for Best Buy's $10 for 10 days sale? Started off with Sackboy for Playstation.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/video-games/video-game-sale-events/pcmcat1649105798442.c?id=pcmcat1649105798442

 

[bardockkun]

So what are some of your predictions for Best Buy's $10 for 10 days sale? Started off with Sackboy for Playstation.

Fortnite expansion, EA Sports games, Just Dance and that Call of Duty game that took place in World War II that isn't World at War.

 

[JohnnyCage]

So what are some of your predictions for Best Buy's $10 for 10 days sale? Started off with Sackboy for Playstation.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/video-games/video-game-sale-events/pcmcat1649105798442.c?id=pcmcat1649105798442

Deathloop and a buncha Ubi games.

 

[Kromis]

Fortnite expansion, EA Sports games, Just Dance and that Call of Duty game that took place in World War II that isn't World at War.

You mean CoD: WWII?

Just kidding. I forgot WWII existed before Vanguard too. Do COD games generally get discounted that low though? I don't remember if I've ever seen a retail COD game for less than $20 on sale.

Deathloop and a buncha Ubi games.

Immortals Fenyx Rising

 

[bardockkun]

You mean CoD: WWII?

Just kidding. I forgot WWII existed before Vanguard too. Do COD games generally get discounted that low though? I don't remember if I've ever seen a retail COD game for less than $20 on sale.

Immortals Fenyx Rising

That Vanguard one is seemingly the one Best Buy has the most stock of based on how many times it goes on sale during these random ass whatever amount of days game sales.

Speaking of Duty Calling of War World II or whatever, isn't the Activision deal "suppose" to be done by next week or am I making up random dates?

 

[JohnnyCage]

Wouldn't be surprised if Saints Row or Gotham Knights are part of that sale. $10 would probably be my buy price for Gotham but I'm not sure I'd pay anything for SR.

 

[ChefMason]

That Vanguard one is seemingly the one Best Buy has the most stock of based on how many times it goes on sale during these random ass whatever amount of days game sales.

Speaking of Duty Calling of War World II or whatever, isn't the Activision deal "suppose" to be done by next week or am I making up random dates?

It got extended to October now.

 

[bardockkun]

It got extended to October now.

Damn eel pudding munchers in the UK...

 

[RiPPn]

The Gameflip addiction is real, lol. I bought New Super Lucky’s Tale, Huntdown and Legend Bowl within the last week or so. In other news, has anyone had trouble updating the Series Controller firmware? I’ve been trying to update my Lunar Shift controller to no avail.

I think I buy a .75 game a day on GameFlip. lol Today's game of the day was Mail Mole. Also eyeballing Fruit Adventure, which I'll probably make tomorrow's game.

By the way, if you like RPGs, there is a 50 game bundle of Kemco RPG's that is being sold for around $15, regular price for this bundle is $200.

 

[bardockkun]

By the way, if you like RPGs, there is a 50 game bundle of Kemco RPG's that is being sold for around $15, regular price for this bundle is $200.

 

[n64ra]

So what are some of your predictions for Best Buy's $10 for 10 days sale? Started off with Sackboy for Playstation.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/video-games/video-game-sale-events/pcmcat1649105798442.c?id=pcmcat1649105798442

Mario Odyssey, Tear of the Kingdom, DKC Tropical Freeze, oops. Those won't go below $40.

Actually: Mario + Rabbids, Gears Tactics, Cyberpunk, and so on.

 

[Antarael Dulacre]

I think I buy a .75 game a day on GameFlip. lol Today's game of the day was Mail Mole. Also eyeballing Fruit Adventure, which I'll probably make tomorrow's game.

By the way, if you like RPGs, there is a 50 game bundle of Kemco RPG's that is being sold for around $15, regular price for this bundle is $200.

Bought the bundle for 12,50 the other day with a voucher...already had 11 of the games, however I only paid for 5 of them, the rest came with Gold or from Giveaways. And the "paid" ones came from Gameflip as well..soo still a good deal =P

 

[briandadude]

Best Buy predictions:

Rainbow 6
FIFA
Just Dance
Lego Brawls
Pac-Man
Assassins Creed
NBA 2K
Plants vs Zombies
Rabbids Party Legends

 

[adonfraz]

That Vanguard one is seemingly the one Best Buy has the most stock of based on how many times it goes on sale during these random ass whatever amount of days game sales.

Speaking of Duty Calling of War World II or whatever, isn't the Activision deal "suppose" to be done by next week or am I making up random dates?

MS/ABK extended their merger agreement way out to October, but the CMA set a deadline for them to issue a final report/decision for 8/28.

And the CMA are the ones holding the deal up.

Assuming all goes well the deal should close late this month.

However, the CMA stated in their sworn testimony to the CAT that they would try to issue an updated provisional finding on the ABK deal this week - And that obviously hasn't happened....

 

[Donken]

I think I buy a .75 game a day on GameFlip. lol Today's game of the day was Mail Mole. Also eyeballing Fruit Adventure, which I'll probably make tomorrow's game.

By the way, if you like RPGs, there is a 50 game bundle of Kemco RPG's that is being sold for around $15, regular price for this bundle is $200.

That's a really good deal on the RPG bundle, I have never used GameFlip though, always to nervous to buy codes for other regions with the thousands i've spent on games on my account.

 

[Donken]

So what are some of your predictions for Best Buy's $10 for 10 days sale? Started off with Sackboy for Playstation.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/video-games/video-game-sale-events/pcmcat1649105798442.c?id=pcmcat1649105798442

It's gotta be things that Best Buy has stacks of in the back office, so I would guess maybe we see Cyber Punk at least one of the days, probably some Sports and Racing games too.

 

[JohnnyCage]

Best Buy predictions:

Rainbow 6
FIFA
Just Dance
Lego Brawls
Pac-Man
Assassins Creed
NBA 2K
Plants vs Zombies
Rabbids Party Legends

Yeah this looks likely unfortunately lol.

 

[ArugulaZ]

Are you allowed to sell GameFlip codes to other users? Because I can't seem to get into my account at the moment, and I would much rather pay GameFlip's three dollars for Otogi than Microsoft's TWENTY dollars. If anyone would like to help me out, it'd be appreciated, and you will of course be reimbursed.

 

[jimbo8574]

Wouldn't be surprised if Saints Row or Gotham Knights are part of that sale. $10 would probably be my buy price for Gotham but I'm not sure I'd pay anything for SR.

Saints Row isn't a great game. But worth it at $10 I think. I paid $15.

On Playstation at least there was a bugged trophy that just got patched.

 

[deszaras]

That's a really good deal on the RPG bundle, I have never used GameFlip though, always to nervous to buy codes for other regions with the thousands i've spent on games on my account.

Same. I don’t want to take any chances.

 

[Bryson]

Forza Motorsport is unable to get split-screen working on Xbox. Not getting co-op to work on Halo Infinite after it being a staple of the franchise for the last two decades is unforgivable. And now with Baldur's Gate 3, shaping up to be one of the best games in video game history skipping xbox due to the devs not being able to get split-screen co-op mode working on the Series S and countless other games skipping Xbox entirely... I truly hope Xbox goes back to the drawing board and NEVER releases another Xbox Series S ever again! I didn't spend $600 on the World's most powerful console to have an entire generation crippled by an underpowered machine. This is ridiculous! If they wanted a cheaper console, they should just have made a disc-less Series X for $100 cheaper like Playstation did. The world's richest company and they can't hire some competent engineers? ENOUGH!

https://twitter.com/IdleSloth84_/status/1690061182990782464?s=20

 

[chnandler_bong]

Forza Motorsport is unable to get split-screen working on Xbox. Not getting co-op to work on Halo Infinite after it being a staple of the franchise for the last two decades is unforgivable. And now with Baldur's Gate 3, shaping up to be one of the best games in video game history skipping xbox due to the devs not being able to get split-screen co-op mode working on the Series S and countless other games skipping Xbox entirely... I truly hope Xbox goes back to the drawing board and NEVER releases another Xbox Series S ever again! I didn't spend $600 on the World's most powerful console to have an entire generation crippled by an underpowered machine. This is ridiculous! If they wanted a cheaper console, they should just have made a disc-less Series X for $100 cheaper like Playstation did. The world's richest company and they can't hire some competent engineers? ENOUGH!

https://twitter.com/IdleSloth84_/status/1690061182990782464?s=20

Did Larian recently announce that the Xbox version has been cancelled? Because AFAIK it's just delayed indefinitely until they can get the game working well on Series S.

 

[Bryson]

Did Larian recently announce that the Xbox version has been cancelled? Because AFAIK it's just delayed indefinitely until they can get the game working well on Series S.

What makes you think Larian can get split-screen co-op working on Series S when Xbox OWN first party studios can't do it? Baldur's Gate will be coming to Playstation August 31st but not Xbox. That is a fact. And for once this has nothing to do with Sony moneyhatting the game.

The problem is that Series S only has 8 gigs of ram. Even the steam deck has 16 gigs of ram. That is how they are able to get BG3 working on a handheld like the steam deck but not Xbox. Anybody who's ever built a PC understands the importance of having more ram.

Microsoft's only option is to stop forcing parity between Series X and S. They did it with the Xbox 360 and Xbox One.

 

[blueweltall]

Wait until people finally find out that teraflop has been used as a marketing gimmick and does not accurately tell how powerful your hardware is.

 

[Bryson]

Wait until people finally find out that teraflop has been used as a marketing gimmick and does not accurately tell how powerful your hardware is.

The Series X is more powerful than PS5, but both consoles are close enough that it just depends on which console developers spend more time optimizing for which is usually PS5 since it has more users. PS5 uses higher clock speeds but less CUs, Xbox has lower clock speed but more CUs. This is like the intel duo cores vs quad cores from 2007 all over again. Many duo cores were able to hit higher clock speeds due to having less cores. It took time for game developers to take advantage of the extra cores in Quad core CPUs. Nobody would take a dual core over a quad core nowadays and even PS5 Pro will have more CUs in the future if it ever comes out.

Every company uses marketing gimmicks. Sony lied about the power of the SSD. They said many of their games would not be possible without the power of their magical SSD and yet it magically works on last gen hardware or even regular old mechanical harddrives when their game comes to PC even Ratchet and Clank.

 

[briandadude]

I can’t even look at a game if it doesn’t trace rays.

 

[blueweltall]

The Series X is more powerful than PS5, but both consoles are close enough that it just depends on which console developers spend more time optimizing for which is usually PS5 since it has more users. PS5 uses higher clock speeds but less CUs, Xbox has lower clock speed but more CUs. This is like the intel duo cores vs quad cores from 2007 all over again. Many duo cores were able to hit higher clock speeds due to having less cores. It took time for game developers to take advantage of the extra cores in Quad core CPUs. Nobody would take a dual core over a quad core nowadays and even PS5 Pro will have more CUs in the future if it ever comes out.

Every company uses marketing gimmicks. Sony lied about the power of the SSD. They said many of their games would not be possible without the power of their magical SSD and yet it magically works on last gen hardware or even regular old mechanical harddrives when their game comes to PC even Ratchet and Clank.

Well, if you really know anything about actual computer hardware you would know there are big differences between minimum specs and recommended specs.

 

[briandadude]

Forza Motorsport is unable to get split-screen working on Xbox. Not getting co-op to work on Halo Infinite after it being a staple of the franchise for the last two decades is unforgivable.

I am sad that only Nintendo seems to care about split screen and couch co-op gaming.

 

[bardockkun]

I am sad that only Nintendo seems to care about split screen and couch co-op gaming.

Well, yeah it's because they still haven't figured out how online works...

 

[briandadude]

Well, yeah it's because they still haven't figured out how online works...

Haha but plenty play Mario Kart and Smash Brothers online. It’s nice to have a free multiplayer option.

 

[Strider Turbulence EX]

That's the nicest thing I ever heard anyone say about Smash Bros' online play.

 

[Kromis]

The Series X is more powerful than PS5, but both consoles are close enough that it just depends on which console developers spend more time optimizing for which is usually PS5 since it has more users. PS5 uses higher clock speeds but less CUs, Xbox has lower clock speed but more CUs. This is like the intel duo cores vs quad cores from 2007 all over again. Many duo cores were able to hit higher clock speeds due to having less cores. It took time for game developers to take advantage of the extra cores in Quad core CPUs. Nobody would take a dual core over a quad core nowadays and even PS5 Pro will have more CUs in the future if it ever comes out.

Every company uses marketing gimmicks. Sony lied about the power of the SSD. They said many of their games would not be possible without the power of their magical SSD and yet it magically works on last gen hardware or even regular old mechanical harddrives when their game comes to PC even Ratchet and Clank.

Yeah I'm not sure why Microsoft decided to go "wide" with more CUs. I guess they didn't want a beefy cooling solution like the PS5 if they were go with higher clocks. I always thought the extra CUs were meant for some scalable Azure stuff since they were betting big on cloud gaming, like using idle Series X boards for some extra computing power for non-gaming applications (machine learning?) that could take advantage of GPU resources. Maybe that's what happened with the queues for cloud streaming? Either they winded down the servers to lower costs or reallocated the resources to something else.

I really hope Microsoft can flex their additional CU advantage but I don't think it is any time soon. I love Mark Cerny's developer-first approach to the design of the PS4 and PS5 to make development easier. (Warning - armchair dev rhetoric) This Xbox gen reminds me of the PS3 in some ways - hard to develop for and puts the onus on developers to really extract as much juice out of it rather than Microsoft providing good tools to extract that power. I think it was last gen where I read developers loved the PS4 tools over Xbox One's but I'm not sure what devs are saying now for Series consoles.

I applaud Microsoft for going with the two console approach and I have no doubt they will continue with this approach next generation (just based on the naming scheme). There's just going to be some major growing pains for now until Microsoft can get their tools sorted out or developers tune their engine for this "scalable" approach going forward.

 

[bee01]

The lack of RAM in the Series S was super short sighted, especially since RAM prices have absolutely cratered since the consoles launched.  I don't think feature parity should have ever been a strict requirement.

Baldur's Gate 3 looks like it turned out to be an all time great RPG.  It's going to take a lot of GOTY votes away from Zelda.

 

[2ndopp]

Off topic, but I'm glad 4K physical movies are region free (unlike DVD and Blu Ray). Hellraiser III never gets re-released in the United States. Pre-ordered the 1-4 collection that's coming out at the end of October

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hellraiser-Quartet-of-Torment-4K-Blu-ray/dp/B08R631TFP/panandscathed-20

https://www.arrowfilms.com/hellraiser-quartet-of-torment-chatterer-slipcase-arrow-store-exclusive-limited-edition-4k-uhd/14887479.html

 

[ArugulaZ]

It's three years until the next console generation, man. Three years. People can't live with the Xbox Series S for three more years? Nintendo fans went from 2006-2012 with a regurgitated last generation system, and the world did not end as a result.

I'm sorry, I'm on Team Withered Technology here. It's way more important for me to be able to afford a game system than to ooh and aah at it. The $220 I spent on the Xbox Series S says it's an awesome game system.

 

[TTAZ]

It's three years until the next console generation, man. Three years. People can't live with the Xbox Series S for three more years? Nintendo fans went from 2006-2012 with a regurgitated last generation system, and the world did not end as a result.

I'm sorry, I'm on Team Withered Technology here. It's way more important for me to be able to afford a game system than to ooh and aah at it. The $220 I spent on the Xbox Series S says it's an awesome game system.

The series s is a great value and is good for what it it, but it’s acting as a bottleneck. I’d gladly pay more money to have access to all the third party games that can’t run on a series s. We are missing out on the potential GOTY because the XSS can’t handle it. This is only going to make more people switch to PlayStation.

People buy Nintendo for the low spec “fun family” games. People buy Xbox for the specs and “next gen” experience

 

[ArugulaZ]

And I think you should do more with less, so more players can be a part of gaming with less money. I recognize the bottleneck argument, but that doesn't seem like so much of a problem on Steam. Indeed, some games will not run at acceptable speeds on my older computers, but on my third gen laptop, I get good performance out of the 2D stuff, and fair performance from older 3D titles like Ultra Street Fighter IV. On my fourth gen desktop with a modest GPU (a GTX 970 with 4GB of RAM, which I understand is pretty small by today's standards), I haven't found much of anything in my library that I can't play.

It's an old machine, but Steam doesn't drop some arbitrary wall in my face saying that I absolutely cannot play these games. They're still compatible with my computers; they just may not run all that well, or may need to be run on lower settings. I'm willing to accept those compromises if a genuine effort is made to make the games work on older hardware, and I'm willing to accept those same compromises on the Xbox Series S as long as the cuts aren't too deep.

If developers can make Doom Eternal and the Witcher III work on the Nintendo Switch, they can make Baldur's Gate III work on the Xbox Series S. I'm unconvinced there's anything about this game so revolutionary that it's beyond the scope of the S on a fundamental level. Will it look worse, and perhaps run worse? Sure, but the core of the game could be preserved, even if the frame rate and graphics take a hit. The Series S and X are supposed to be scalable anyway; the S needs less horsepower because it outputs to 1080p instead of 4K. If you just own a 1080p television set, those added details would be lost to you even if you had an X.

tl;dr Gamers shouldn't be excluded from the hobby because they can't afford a five hundred dollar game system. Microsoft understands this; why doesn't anyone else?!

 

[TTAZ]

Sure. In theory you’re right. But it’s the developer’s call. If they deem “it’s too much work with not enough of payoff to optimize the game to run on series s” the end result is that the bottleneck is preventing XSX owners from playing the game. If Microsoft were to drop the requirement of requiring all games to run on both, then there wouldn’t be an issue. But as is, with the end result being XSX owners missing out, it’s an issue

 

[entexman]

Developers are lazy in general when it comes to performance. They don't want to optimize their code because that would require some effort. The Series S has more than enough power for the developers to work with it, but it is easier to just code against the latest PC hardware which is pretty much beyond any of the current gen consoles. These developers probably complain about the lacking hardware in the PS5 and Series X as well.  I remember back in the day of the Atari 2600 developers had to work with far more limitations and they were able to program some games that are still fun to play today. 

Me personally I don't really care about the latest hardware and fancy graphics. I am happy playing the XBox 360 Geometry Wars game on my Series X/S.  About the only graphic intense game I play is Forza Horizon 5 now and then for the heck of it. The graphics are nice, but it's more about just driving around and exploring for me than anything else. 

I do feel that Microsoft has a lack of focus of late other than Gamepass. I am not really sold on the subscription gaming thing, but I got in during the first Gold conversions and I have been keeping it going using rewards points.  Not sure how long I will continue with Gamepass or XBox if things keep going the way they have been. I don't feel any love for Switch or PS5 either. I don't really get excited about new games anymore other than remasters of old games I used to play a lot back in the day. I was bummed that Rise of the Triad remaster did not release on consoles like it did on PC recently.   At least Quake 2 was a pleasent surprise

 

[Deuteros]

It's the split-screen co-op gameplay part Larian Studios is having trouble with. Some of Microsoft's engineers from the Xbox Advanced Technology Group are giving them a hand and the game will launch on Xbox Series X|S, albeit later than on the PS5.

The alternative would be for them to drop that feature altogether (perhaps adding it at a later date) and having it launch at the same time as on the PS5.

Neither scenario is ideal. It's a choice between facing backlash for the game releasing later or by it lacking a feature.

 

[blueweltall]

Yes, because those engineers were able to work their magic with Halo Infinite and Forza 8. It's never the Series S hardware limitation, it's always those lazy developers.

 

[Bryson]

It's the split-screen co-op gameplay part Larian Studios is having trouble with. Some of Microsoft's engineers from the Xbox Advanced Technology Group are giving them a hand and the game will launch on Xbox Series X|S, albeit later than on the PS5.

The alternative would be for them to drop that feature altogether (perhaps adding it at a later date) and having it launch at the same time as on the PS5.

Neither scenario is ideal. It's a choice between facing backlash for the game releasing later or by it lacking a feature.

Even if BG3 does end up coming to Xbox in 2024 how is that acceptable? What if Larian can't get co-op to work on Series S at all, what happens then? They have made it abundantly clear that it is integral to their game. I don't buy the lazy developers narrative. Larian have been working on BG3 for 7 years. I don't call that lazy, I call that dedication.

Xbox as a console maker should have made making games easier for developers, not harder! If Microsoft really wanted to get the Series S in as many user's hands as possible then they really needed to eat the cost and include more memory in the Series S and made up the cost through game sales instead of crippling an entire generation of games.

This now opens up a whole other can of worms. What if the Coalition can't get co-op to work in Gears 6? What if features were cut from Starfield due to not having enough memory in the Series S. What if Perfect Dark is in development hell because of the S? What if the reason Starfield and Redfall can't get 60fps working is because of the S? How is any of this acceptable? People blamed the the lack of co-op in Halo Infinite on the incompetence of 343 but it's clear something else is going on when Turn 10. arguably one of of Microsoft's best studios can't even do it.

 

[SIX min WHISTLE]

Did Larian recently announce that the Xbox version has been cancelled? Because AFAIK it's just delayed indefinitely until they can get the game working well on Series S.

No, I've seen the director say that while the game was never officially announced for the Series X (which I'm not sure is correct), they fully intend on a release for Xbox. In their blog post this week and an interview they say all PC patches will be included on PS5 "and beyond".

What makes you think Larian can get split-screen co-op working on Series S when Xbox OWN first party studios can't do it? Baldur's Gate will be coming to Playstation August 31st but not Xbox. That is a fact. And for once this has nothing to do with Sony moneyhatting the game.
...
Microsoft's only option is to stop forcing parity between Series X and S. They did it with the Xbox 360 and Xbox One.

Larian are very dead set on split-screen, and I would say 343 was not, considering the hard drop for Halo 5. I would also classify Larian as a competent studio, though they rely on iteration over time. I could not say the same for 343. Technical blunder after technical blunder, with their past mistakes like MCC only being solved by hiring new developers or outside companies and having them do it.

I can't really speak about Turn10, but I don't think they announced split-screen for this Forza. At they very least, they don't have an extremely embarrassing video of their studio head saying that all future titles will include the feature.
https://youtu.be/lNVDVHzhlU8?t=18m2s

I think the best option for BG3 probably would have been to release without split-screen at all, and then patch it in later, hopefully not botching it like 343. Next best is to drop split-screen on Xbox, which I'm not sure the company is willing to do. I would say limit the co-op, like a tether or something, but that is probably a big undertaking compared to cutting it normal optimization.

Parity between 360 and One is not a comparison that is useful, this was never promised or even implied, because they were truly two separate generations of hardware. There were only a handful of games that actually nailed both platforms, stuff like Rise of the Tomb Raider and Titanfall, while a lot of "cross gen" games were disastrous ports down to 360, like Dragon Age Inquisition or Shadow of War.

A more useful comparison would be One and One X. As far as I'm aware games on these platforms managed parity of features, aside from resolution, framerate, and general performance as expected.

 

[SIX min WHISTLE]

What if features were cut from Starfield due to not having enough memory in the Series S. What if Perfect Dark is in development hell because of the S? What if the reason Starfield and Redfall can't get 60fps working is because of the S? How is any of this acceptable?

I'll give you possible cut features for Starfield, though knowing BGS I think they probably planned with the Series S limitations in mind, or were possibly willing to launch their game running badly on one or more platform targets. I doubt framerate can be blamed on Series S though, framerate and resolution are 100% allowed to defer from Series X. None of BGS or Arkane's modern games have launched with 60 FPS in console. They all got them later from stuff like FPS boost, or didn't have it until a port, like Skyrim. They're fine with and used to 30 FPS.


We also have heard the general reasons why Perfect Dark has been in development hell, and it was largely personnel and management garbage.