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#1051 dmaul1114

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 12:11 AM

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#1052 Magus8472

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 12:15 AM

Amazed that Oregon made it out of there alive after all the injuries and bad mistakes.
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#1053 lordopus99

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 12:28 AM

They hardly bitch slapped Texas last year. Anyways, they just got ass raped by some Cocks, Gamecocks that is. All your credibility just went out the window.

Ohio State will move to #1 and Oregon (if they win, not looking very good today so far) to #2.


Yeah, 37-21 is not a stomping... especially when you throw in the fact they took out McCoy and a couple other players in addition to 2 100+ RBs, 4 interceptions :roll:

As for South Carolina...
You called them a joke team, not me. And my credibility is in question :lol:

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 01:10 AM

Yeah, 37-21 is not a stomping... especially when you throw in the fact they took out McCoy and a couple other players in addition to 2 100+ RBs, 4 interceptions :roll:

As for South Carolina...
You called them a joke team, not me. And my credibility is in question :lol:


lol, I think his credibility isn't in question if he says South Carolina is a joke team and they beat Alabama.

as for Alabama taking out some players, you can say a lot of things for every team in any conference, but it doesn't change the fact they STILL LOST

#1055 scuba t

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 01:23 AM

mastersun sounds like munch with all the hate for Bama. It's true that teams usually don't look good after losses. That's the way life is.

Anyways USC deserved to win that game. They outplayed Alabama and took them out of their element. I never would have guessed that Alabama would have that few rushing yards.

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 01:24 AM

lol, I think his credibility isn't in question if he says South Carolina is a joke team and they beat Alabama.

as for Alabama taking out some players, you can say a lot of things for every team in any conference, but it doesn't change the fact they STILL LOST


They took out the best team in the country and they are joke. You might be just as delusional as Mastersum1.

They might have lost but they will still be in the top 10 and still would beat Oregon or Ohio St if they ever would play them.

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 01:31 AM

They might have lost but they will still be in the top 10 and still would beat Oregon or Ohio St if they ever would play them.


Top 10 doesn't matter, only #1 and #2 at the end of the regular season. Alabama won't be there. Alabama against a good spread team (Good = Oregon, Bad = Florida) would lose badly (see: 2009 Sugar Bowl vs. Utah).

Alabama lost to a team that already has a loss (South Carolina). So deal with it.

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 01:38 AM

They took out the best team in the country and they are joke. You might be just as delusional as Mastersum1.

They might have lost but they will still be in the top 10 and still would beat Oregon or Ohio St if they ever would play them.


LOL, if you still believe in ranks you buy too much into the BCS, BS


last time I checked , Alabama lost in the Sugar Bowl to Utah, and if you are that sure they would be Oregon and Ohio St, that easily, you are pretty delusional

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 01:49 AM

I actually wanted Alabama to win this one, but I guess it doesn't hurt Auburn either way. I really wanted to see both teams (Auburn, Alabama) go undefeated into the Iron Bowl.

Of course Auburn still has to get LSU, Arkansas, and Georgia out of the way. Should still be a really interesting Iron Bowl this year.

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#1061 lordopus99

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 01:50 AM

Top 10 doesn't matter, only #1 and #2 at the end of the regular season. Alabama won't be there. Alabama against a good spread team (Good = Oregon, Bad = Florida) would lose badly (see: 2009 Sugar Bowl vs. Utah).

Alabama lost to a team that already has a loss (South Carolina). So deal with it.


Florida's spread is way better than Oregons. It's why they have won 2 national championships with it (Oregon has never been even close to winning one). It is why Tebow was a god to college football. Hence, his NFL jersey selling the most of all players and he is the 3rd string QB. This year it isn't working as great because Brantley is not an option QB; he is a straight up sit in the pocket guy.

South Carolina's loss was to the #8 team in the country and it was a close game. If Oregon wasn't scared, they would actually play someone of worth with their non-conference games... I guess they were scared since Boise St crushed their dreams last year.

last time I checked , Alabama lost in the Sugar Bowl to Utah, and if you are that sure they would be Oregon and Ohio St, that easily, you are pretty delusional


Thanks for the reply Mastersum's shadow. Last time I checked, they won a National Championship by being undefeated playing against great teams; Oregon on the other hand got their asses handed to them by Boise St and then was beat by the "overrated" Ohio St team.

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#1062 scuba t

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 02:15 AM

LOL, if you still believe in ranks you buy too much into the BCS, BS


last time I checked , Alabama lost in the Sugar Bowl to Utah, and if you are that sure they would be Oregon and Ohio St, that easily, you are pretty delusional

That was two years ago and a completely different team.
How does that make an argument that Alabama couldn't beat Oregon or Ohio State?

Using that logic, I would say that since Ohio State lost three straight years in a BCS game, they can't beat Oregon.(I know that Ohio State beat Oregon in the Rose Bowl last year)

#1063 lordopus99

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 02:42 AM

It's official #9 Arizona lose to 2-2 3-2 Oregon St.

#1064 WarPSycho

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 03:08 AM

Florida's spread is way better than Oregons. It's why they have won 2 national championships with it (Oregon has never been even close to winning one). It is why Tebow was a god to college football. Hence, his NFL jersey selling the most of all players and he is the 3rd string QB. This year it isn't working as great because Brantley is not an option QB; he is a straight up sit in the pocket guy.

South Carolina's loss was to the #8 team in the country and it was a close game. If Oregon wasn't scared, they would actually play someone of worth with their non-conference games... I guess they were scared since Boise St crushed their dreams last year.



Thanks for the reply Mastersum's shadow. Last time I checked, they won a National Championship by being undefeated playing against great teams; Oregon on the other hand got their asses handed to them by Boise St and then was beat by the "overrated" Ohio St team.




Lol yes Alabama and the rest of the SEC are willing to play really "tough" non conference games
Duke is really tough, i'll admit Penn State is something, but not this year.
and I didnt know Miami and South Florida are superb teams.

and yes Alabama and SEC deserve all their credit, give me a break.


and just because my opinion aligns with matersum's doesn't mean we have the same opinion.

#1065 WarPSycho

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 03:09 AM

That was two years ago and a completely different team.
How does that make an argument that Alabama couldn't beat Oregon or Ohio State?

Using that logic, I would say that since Ohio State lost three straight years in a BCS game, they can't beat Oregon.(I know that Ohio State beat Oregon in the Rose Bowl last year)

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just using the other guys logic, just like you probably would

#1066 Magus8472

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 03:16 AM

It's official #9 Arizona lose to 2-2 3-2 Oregon St.


Feel free to gloss over the fact that 3-2 Oregon State's two losses were within 10 14 points to TCU and Boise State. Then you can complain that big teams don't schedule anybody and simultaneously reveal exactly why they don't.

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#1067 lordopus99

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 04:20 AM

Lol yes Alabama and the rest of the SEC are willing to play really "tough" non conference games
Duke is really tough, i'll admit Penn State is something, but not this year.
and I didnt know Miami and South Florida are superb teams.


First off, Miami doesn't play an SEC team this year. On another note... If Miami isn't a good team, then name some good teams.

Feel free to gloss over the fact that 3-2 Oregon State's two losses were within 10 14 points to TCU and Boise State. Then you can complain that big teams don't schedule anybody and simultaneously reveal exactly why they don't.


Sorry! The loss to TCU was by 9 and the loss to Boise St was by 13... for a total of 22, not 14. Yes, their losses are to good teams but I just stated the result because I felt Arizona was overrated BIG time.

#1068 WarPSycho

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 04:51 AM

First off, Miami doesn't play an SEC team this year. On another note... If Miami isn't a good team, then name some good teams.


the one in Ohio, not Florida
not everything revolves around the South you know

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 05:24 AM

Florida's spread is way better than Oregons. It's why they have won 2 national championships with it (Oregon has never been even close to winning one). It is why Tebow was a god to college football. Hence, his NFL jersey selling the most of all players and he is the 3rd string QB. This year it isn't working as great because Brantley is not an option QB; he is a straight up sit in the pocket guy.


Sounds like excuses to me. Florida sucks THIS year. I don't care what they've done in the past. Losing to a crappy LSU team today proved that.

South Carolina's loss was to the #8 team in the country and it was a close game. If Oregon wasn't scared, they would actually play someone of worth with their non-conference games... I guess they were scared since Boise St crushed their dreams last year.


Oh yes, the #8 team who almost blew it against Kentucky today and only beat South Carolina because they were handed the game. Oregon scheduled Tennessee when they were SEC contenders, not their fault they suck (yet they pretty much beat LSU). Can't control it, but had to settle with Portland State because another team chickened out. Also, New Mexico was a good team when they scheduled them.

Thanks for the reply Mastersum's shadow. Last time I checked, they won a National Championship by being undefeated playing against great teams; Oregon on the other hand got their asses handed to them by Boise St and then was beat by the "overrated" Ohio St team.


In the past. Right now, Oregon and Ohio State are the top 2 teams and that's all that matters.

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 05:28 AM

Fact is, rankings mean nothing at the beginning of the season except give teams unfair advantages to making the BCS title game. Any team that is upset by a lower ranked team or unranked team is considered overrated and not deserving of their ranking. This group now includes Alabama, South Carolina, Florida, Arizona, Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, Miami Stanford.

All that matters is who is unbeaten and at the top and playing well: OSU, Oregon, Oklahoma, Nebraska, TCU, BSU. So Alabama and the rest of the SEC can take notice that college football doesn't revolve around them.

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 06:36 AM

Sorry! The loss to TCU was by 9 and the loss to Boise St was by 13... for a total of 22, not 14. Yes, their losses are to good teams but I just stated the result because I felt Arizona was overrated BIG time.


Fair enough, though I meant each game was within 14, not both together. But yeah, Arizona's ranking/hype was based entirely off that Iowa game.
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Posted 10 October 2010 - 12:50 PM

All that matters is who is unbeaten and at the top and playing well: OSU, Oregon, Oklahoma, Nebraska, TCU, BSU.


Utah is unbeaten and playing well. They should end up moving up to #8 (assuming Auburn falls a spot) and still have to play TCU.

Also, New Mexico has never really been a good team. They were 1-11 last year, and 4-8 in 2008. Currently they are 0-6. They had a decent year in 2007, but did Oregon really expect them to have the same players 3 years later?

#1073 lordopus99

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 04:12 PM

the one in Ohio, not Florida
not everything revolves around the South you know


The context in which you stated. Your comment was directed at "weak" non-conference schedule of the SEC. I just stated the fact that Miami did not play any team from the SEC. Again, do you even have any idea about any team on the East coast and who they play...


Sounds like excuses to me. Florida sucks THIS year. I don't care what they've done in the past. Losing to a crappy LSU team today proved that.

What did you expect... They lost their god, Tebow (his words are on a plaque at the stadium; no other player has that), they lost their center, lead WR, TE (who starts for NE), half of the defense... in other words, every impact player went bye bye. Florida's spread offense needs an Option QB, which I have already stated John Brantley is not. Brantley in high school was a sit back in the pocket QB, who had a great arm and great vision to throw accurate and deep passes... a spread offense does not play that way. At a certain point... my guess sometime next year, Trey Burton will come into his own and take on that role (he is doing a little of that now). Again, these are young guys.

As for LSU, who really says they are a "crappy" team... each week they win and are undefeated playing better talent than Oregon is... :roll:
UNC > Tennessee
West Virginia > Portland St (are they even D1?!?)

Oh yes, the #8 team who almost blew it against Kentucky today and only beat South Carolina because they were handed the game. Oregon scheduled Tennessee when they were SEC contenders, not their fault they suck (yet they pretty much beat LSU). Can't control it, but had to settle with Portland State because another team chickened out. Also, New Mexico was a good team when they scheduled them.

*cough*excuses.
Again, a win is a win. If Oregon would actually play ANYONE of any WORTH, then I would be fine saying they are the best team in the land... but they haven't. Their schedule is the one who is the biggest joke.
Tennessee is 2-4
New Mexico is 0-6
Portland St is 2-3
Arizona St is 3-3
Washington St is 1-5
I wouldn't be surprised if this bites them in the ass at the end of the season when an undefeated Nebraska/Oklahoma and an undefeated TCU/Utah leap frogs them in the BCS. Heck, Auburn could too, especially if they knock off undefeated LSU and #11 Arkansas in the next two weeks.

In the past. Right now, Oregon and Ohio State are the top 2 teams and that's all that matters.


You brought up the past, so I brought up the past. Most likely Ohio St and Oregon will be #1 and #2, respectively. But how long will that last...

If the Pac10 and the Big10 ever want to be taken seriously, they would set up a conference championship game. Until then, their teams to me are mostly jokes.

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The last 4 BCS Champions were all from the SEC. :lol:

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#1074 dmaul1114

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 04:26 PM

LSU isn't a crappy team. They just have a crappy offense and don't have a decent QB. They have a great defense though, which helps make up for that.

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#1075 Magus8472

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 06:37 PM

As for LSU, who really says they are a "crappy" team... each week they win and are undefeated playing better talent than Oregon is... :roll:
UNC > Tennessee > West Virginia > Portland St (are they even D1?!?)


You're right, LSU isn't terrible. Though I'm confused as to how Tennessee is simultaneously "better talent" in this paragraph and another in a long line of cupcakes three sentences from now. In any event, LSU beat Tennessee by 2 at home and would have lost but for two extra defensive backs, whereas Oregon beat them by 35 on the road.

And yeah, Portland State is an FCS team, though Oregon only scheduled them because the team they were set to play (Central Michigan, admittedly not a titan of the FBS this year) backed out a few months ago.

*cough*excuses. Again, a win is a win. If Oregon would actually play ANYONE of any WORTH, then I would be fine saying they are the best team in the land... but they haven't. Their schedule is the one who is the biggest joke.
Tennessee is 2-4
New Mexico is 0-6
Portland St is 2-3
Arizona St is 3-3
Washington St is 1-5
I wouldn't be surprised if this bites them in the ass at the end of the season when an undefeated Nebraska/Oklahoma and an undefeated TCU/Utah leap frogs them in the BCS. Heck, Auburn could too, especially if they knock off undefeated LSU and #11 Arkansas in the next two weeks.


Stanford is 5-1 and not as bad as you think they are. Besides, without defending Oregon's scheduling, the simple fact of it is that the BCS does not penalize a team for playing a soft out of conference schedule; it, in fact, rewards them for doing so. Just look at who Florida and Alabama played last year: outside Bama's big season opener against VT, you'll see the likes of FIU, North Texas (FCS), Charleston Southern (FCS) and Chattanooga (FCS). The BCS will consistently rank as best the team that starts highest and wins least; strength of schedule is a tiebreaker and a dim one at that. If such weren't the case you'd probably see more teams play an out of conference schedule like Oregon State's. However, they won't, because they'll risk losing a game early and being written off as "terrible," which will do way more to hurt you in the BCS than having your computer rankings dulled by a few easy early opponents everyone forgets about by the end of the season.

If the Pac10 and the Big10 ever want to be taken seriously, they would set up a conference championship game. Until then, their teams to me are mostly jokes.


Lucky for you, then. They'll both have one next year. (Or, at least, soon.)
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#1076 scuba t

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 07:02 PM

I think North Texas is in the Sun Belt Conference which is FBS. I'm not saying the conference or team is a powerhouse. I'm just making a correction.

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 07:26 PM

The context in which you stated. Your comment was directed at "weak" non-conference schedule of the SEC. I just stated the fact that Miami did not play any team from the SEC. Again, do you even have any idea about any team on the East coast and who they play :


http://espn.go.com/c.../florida-gators

unless you're saying that Florida isn't part of the SEC

There are two schools called Miami if you didn't know that


Alabama should have dropped further down

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 08:03 PM

http://espn.go.com/c.../florida-gators

unless you're saying that Florida isn't part of the SEC

There are two schools called Miami if you didn't know that


Alabama should have dropped further down


There is only one Miami. The other one is known as Miami (OH); for future reference. After looking back, I misread your original followup. My bad.

As for Alabama, they fell where I expected they would.

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 08:30 PM

Lucky for you, then. They'll both have one next year. (Or, at least, soon.)

And the Big Ten will be killing the biggest rivalry in the NCAA because of it, so I'd prefer not having one at all instead.


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Posted 10 October 2010 - 08:41 PM

Utah remained unbeaten, but still dropped a spot.