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#2011 dmaul1114

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 11:18 PM

Yeah, I hate defensive battles. Really looking forward to the Fiesta Bowl and Rose Bowl as those should be shootouts.

I don't really like WVU's chances in the Orange. Defense has been week all year, and our offense has struggled to put points up the 2nd half of the season. Could get ugly if Clemson jumps on us early.


As for ND-FSU--two of my most hated teams. So it's one of those 'hope for a meteor strike' matchups. :D

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#2012 Magus8472

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 11:31 PM

I don't really like WVU's chances in the Orange. Defense has been week all year, and our offense has struggled to put points up the 2nd half of the season. Could get ugly if Clemson jumps on us early.


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#2013 Chitown021

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 11:58 PM

My goodness, so much love for the Irish in this thread...

I will be rooting for Kansas State, Notre Dame, and for Mizzou to get beat by North Carolina since they decided to skip town on the Big 12 and on Kansas City.
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#2014 blindinglights

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 12:41 AM

My goodness, so much love for the Irish in this thread...



I just think it's comical that they seriously expect to contend for national titles every single year (although, I've noticed some fans over the last few years have toned that down to BCS bowls, which is still pretty comical), yet the boosters refuse to let anyone have enough time to get their system and players firmly in place.

I seriously don't understand why any good coach with rising stock would ever want to go there. The program "prestige" seems like it would be far overshadowed by the ridiculous expectations.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 01:45 AM

I just think it's comical that they seriously expect to contend for national titles every single year (although, I've noticed some fans over the last few years have toned that down to BCS bowls, which is still pretty comical), yet the boosters refuse to let anyone have enough time to get their system and players firmly in place.

I seriously don't understand why any good coach with rising stock would ever want to go there. The program "prestige" seems like it would be far overshadowed by the ridiculous expectations.



That is annoying. I'm a fan but a realistic one. In the past couple years my goal has just been to WIN a frickin' bowl game. We went so long without winning one it was pathetic. Also the hiring and firing of coaches has been insane. You've got to give a guy at least a few years to implement their system and recruit their guys.
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Posted 06 December 2011 - 12:23 PM

RG3 for Heisman! He won't win but I think he's the most deserving of all the candidates IMHO. He put up ridiculous numbers against quality Big 12 opponents. He did the most with the least with Baylor.
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#2017 blindinglights

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 03:38 PM

RG3 for Heisman! He won't win but I think he's the most deserving of all the candidates IMHO. He put up ridiculous numbers against quality Big 12 opponents. He did the most with the least with Baylor.



If the award is for the player that meant the most to his team, it's absolutely ridiculous if he doesn't get it.

#2018 dmaul1114

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 04:09 PM

It's not an MVP award. It's just an award for the best player.

I'd probably go with RG3 as well. Mathieu is probably the best player, but he's such a douchebag and had the drug issue so I don't think he'll get the votes. Hard for a defensive player to win even without the extra baggage.

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#2019 dmaul1114

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 05:40 PM

http://brett-mcmurph...532522/33728643

Looks like the Big East expansion/replacements will finally be announced tomorrow per CBSSports.

Will be adding Boise State, San Diego State, Houston, SMU and UCF in 2013. First two football only, latter 3 in all sports.

Guess Air Force and Navy are still holding out.

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#2020 blindinglights

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 06:12 PM

Looks like the Big East expansion/replacements will finally be announced tomorrow per CBSSports.

Will be adding Boise State, San Diego State, Houston, SMU and UCF in 2013. First two football only, latter 3 in all sports.

Guess Air Force and Navy are still holding out.



Does this mean the ACC gets Pitt and Syracuse next year? VT has Pitt scheduled as an OOC game, I'm wondering if we get a different opponent should they become ACC teams next year.

#2021 dmaul1114

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 06:17 PM

All indications are still that Pitt and Cuse are staying until 2014. They haven't sued to try to leave early like WVU has.

My guess is once WVU gets out early (and they will) that will set a precedent and we'll see Pitt and Cuse leave as well as long as they're also willing to pay whatever settlement.

At this point in the scheduling game I think they both stay for next year and go to the ACC in 2013 when all these new schools join the Big East.


Edit: CBSsports has a story up now with more or less the above info. Pitt and Cuse and waiting to see what happens with WVU, if WVU leaves early they'd leave early too (though no indication if they'd bolt next your or in 2013).

Also notes that Navy is expected to join next week. Air Force is still deciding--if they say no, apparently Temple is next in line for an invite.

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#2022 dmaul1114

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 07:14 PM

http://sportsillustr...ef=twitter_feed

Some good news out of Ok State getting left out of the title game....the Big 12 ADs now support a plus 1. This is a change as they didn't not support a 4 team playoff proposal put forward by the SEC a few years back.

Big 10 looks to be the league that remains the most opposed to any kind of playoff.

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#2023 dmaul1114

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 05:58 PM

Larry Fedora is the new UNC coach.

[url]http://espn.go.com/c...ach-source-says[/url

And apparently June Jones is the new Arizona State coach per Tweets from Joe Schad and CBSSports.

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#2024 blindinglights

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 07:03 PM

Fedora seems like a good fit for UNC. Wasn't his name also in the mix for TAMU? Personally, I think UNC would be a better overall situation because the A&M faithful probably want to be competitive immediately in the SEC and I'm not so sure that will work out too well given the transition from a high scoring league where it doesn't seem like anyone knows what a defense is to a league that generally takes great pride in defense. I know the state of Texas is a recruiting hot bed, but I think it would be a rough way to for him start off leading a bigger program between being the new coach, in a new conference, with a different style of play than the program has been built for.
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#2025 dmaul1114

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 07:17 PM

He was mentioned by A&M, but they're likely going with Kevin Sumlin. Which could be a mistake due to the defense dominated nature of the SEC, as you noted.

Sucks for the Big East, just added SMU and Houston, and looks like they're both losing their coaches and thus risk tanking.

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#2026 blindinglights

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 07:47 PM

Wow, the Arizona State fans are pissed about the hiring of June Jones from what I'm reading on the various ASU specific fan boards.
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#2027 dmaul1114

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 07:49 PM

Yeah, I've seen that as well and don't get it. If he can win at Hawaii and SMU, no reason he can't do well at ASU.

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#2028 blindinglights

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 03:02 PM

So I guess the Arizona State fans and boosters screamed loud enough.

The school pulled back the head coaching position offer and Jones is no longer a candidate.
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#2029 Chitown021

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 02:07 AM

Wow, can't believe RG3 actually won the Heisman! It's a rare year where they give the award to the right guy.
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Posted 11 December 2011 - 02:11 AM

Wow, can't believe RG3 actually won the Heisman! It's a rare year where they give the award to the right guy.


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#2031 blindinglights

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 02:15 AM

Nick Saban is an idiot for going on and on about Richardson being the best player in the nation, and luckily the Heisman voters agreed. He didn't even come close.

They got it right, IMO.

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 02:33 AM

Wow, can't believe RG3 actually won the Heisman! It's a rare year where they give the award to the right guy.

He was easily the reason Baylor did so well i.e. the MVP of any team... so well deserved

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 06:09 PM

I was probably as shocked as everyone else. Also RG3's socks were awesome!
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#2034 dmaul1114

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 06:21 PM

Haha.

Todd Graham is leaving Pitt after 1 year on the job to take the Arizona State job.

http://www.pittsburg...s/s_771985.html

As WVU fans chant at games--Eat Shit Pitt! :D

Though I must say that it's pretty shitty that he had his director of football operations forward a text message announcing his resignation to his players. Bad enough he didn't have the guts to tell them in person, but he can't even text them himself?

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#2035 blindinglights

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 07:21 PM

No better than hiring Jones, in my opinion.

#2036 dmaul1114

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 09:58 PM

Apparently the boosters balked at the salary Jones would have gotten. Apparently Graham is cheaper.


More to the leaving Pitt story. Apparently he called the Pitt AD to ask for permission to talk to ASU and was denied. He then resigned 3 hours later. He also apparently put feelers out to Kansas and A&M during their searches as well. Guess he really wanted out of Pittsburgh. Can't blame him! ;(

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#2037 evildeadjedi

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 05:43 PM

"As the Big East turns."
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#2038 blindinglights

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 09:55 PM

I think Pitt might end up being better off with the guy from Wisconsin.
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#2039 lordopus99

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 02:57 AM

So no surprise that Boise St beat that living crap out of Arizona St. Thanks Bowl committees and BCS (been constantly snubbed) for such a great game. :roll:

#2040 blindinglights

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 03:35 AM

So no surprise that Boise St beat that living crap out of Arizona St. Thanks Bowl committees and BCS (been constantly snubbed) for such a great game. :roll:



Do they join the Big East next year, or do they have to stay in the Mountain West another year?

It's a shame they finally join an AQ conference but joining that conference amounts to what is pretty much a lateral move by the time they start playing in it. At least they can drop a game and still get a BCS bowl, but they're still stuck playing a bunch of midmajors.

However, I wonder if they can get some better OOC arrangements (home and home) now that they will be a BCS school.