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#2911 dmaul1114

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:13 PM

I think an 8 team field will let in all the teams that can be truly competitive with the top 1 or 2 teams each year.

Sixteen would be overkill most years. Yes Louisville who would have been like a 15 or 16 seed beat UF this year who would have been a 3 or 4 seed probably, but I really think UF just wasn't fired up and ready for that game.

I'm fine with either. Probably just wouldn't watch many of the first round games in a 16 game playoff, just like I don't watch much of the opening round games in March Madness. Not worth sitting through blowouts to see an upset or two.

To be fair, most of my sports watching these days are just my teams games (and really only if they're having decent years) and championship games. Too little free time to watch games I don't have a rooting interest in or a title on the line. Especially with football with 3-4 hour games when I could knock out a good chunk of a game or catch up on a couple movies in that time.

Rambling point being I'm not the market they'd be after with a longer playoff anyway.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:27 PM

I wasn't making any correlations, just responding to the post that said that there has been a lot of super bowl blowouts. Of course you won't get magical parity in ncaaf because of a playoff. But you will more teams that have a chance to play.



My bad, I thought you were arguing that the playoffs in the NFL have prevented blowouts.

A playoff isn't going to fix the most significant problem with college football, which is that these kids need to be financially compensated.

I know this is a very trendy argument but most people don't consider the financial costs involved with running a college athletic department. If you were to examine the financial data from most college programs you would realize that most football programs end up losing money. For starters due to Title 9 (not blaming the ladies merely pointing out a fact that most people tend to neglect) for every football player on a scholarship (85 per team) there must be the same number of scholarships offered to female athletes. Factor in all the facility costs, stadium upgrades, travel costs, free gear, meals and you can see the costs add up pretty quickly.

I'm not implying that colleges do not make money from sports (most of them are for profit corporations) but the issue is always presented from the players side and no one seems to want to discuss the entire picture. Furthermore, it is also worth noting that often there is a tremendous amount of pressure and opposition from faculty, students and other powerful individuals who don't care for football and sports in general. After all college is an institution of higher learning not a feeder for the NFL, NBA or MLB.
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#2913 dmaul1114

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:53 PM

Most major conference Football programs are making money, but a good chunk of the ADs are still in the red from the non-revenue sports.

I think that will go away for the big 4 or 5 conference teams with the bump in revenue they're getting from the playoff deal, how much TV contracts have jumped, revenue from league cable channels like the B1G network etc.

That said I'm still mixed on paying the players. I'm fine if it's just giving them more of a stipend. A couple thousand a semester or whatever to have more spending money. They are getting free tuition, room and board already.

If we're talking paying them big salaries, I'm a lot more hesitant. If the NFL/NBA are kicking in the money (instead of having a free minor league system like currently), then great. Also ok if my above assumption is true and the top level schools can do it just from football profits. But in either case I'd prefer seeing the student requirement removed. Just give them the option to take classes for free, but don't require it IMO. Win-win then as they get paid and professors aren't dealing with athletes who don't care at all about class. While those who do can still go for free.

#2914 irideabike

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:23 PM

Or just make them take life skills classes if they opt out.

#2915 dmaul1114

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:09 PM

http://espn.go.com/n...adelphia-eagles

So much for Kelly staying at Oregon, he's the new coach of the Eagles.

http://espn.go.com/c...nference-member

And San Diego State is also staying in the MWC rather than going to the Big East. Been some rumbling that Cincy and UCONN may join for football only and put their other sports in the new league with the 7 catholic schools that are leaving the BE.

Solid plan IMO. Creates a fairly solid football league in the MWC (even moreso if they can get BYU to rejoin) and a very strong basketball conference that maintains a lot of the original Big East (sans Syracuse etc.).

#2916 fatmanforlife99

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:23 PM

http://espn.go.com/c...apparently-hoax

Lol what a joke.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:25 AM

http://espn.go.com/c...apparently-hoax

Lol what a joke.

His comments were idiotic. He said someone was playing a sick joke on him yet he supposely visited her multiple times (stated in the media at the time). He is just one terrible, terrible person.

#2918 Chitown021

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 01:48 AM

His comments were idiotic. He said someone was playing a sick joke on him yet he supposely visited her multiple times (stated in the media at the time). He is just one terrible, terrible person.



I was just watching a little bit of the press conference ND just held. The AD says supposedly Manti never met her and when he spoke about "meeting" it was the on-line type. He referenced the documentary and TV show "Catfish" as examples of what happened to Te'o. He wouldn't get into a lot of the specifics as he kept saying he'd let Manti tell the story and just kept praising his character. He said that's the reason he wasn't suspicious and fell for this "hoax" so hard.

This seems like a whole lot of spin and damage control to keep it from hurting his draft status.
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#2919 blindinglights

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 01:53 AM

Have you guys read the actual Deadspin report? It's obvious he was in on it. No one would be stupid enough to be duped like that.
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:28 AM

Probably not that dumb, but to put it nicely these guys aren't in college for hard science degrees or even degrees in several cases.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:18 AM

I was just watching a little bit of the press conference ND just held. The AD says supposedly Manti never met her and when he spoke about "meeting" it was the on-line type. He referenced the documentary and TV show "Catfish" as examples of what happened to Te'o. He wouldn't get into a lot of the specifics as he kept saying he'd let Manti tell the story and just kept praising his character. He said that's the reason he wasn't suspicious and fell for this "hoax" so hard.

This seems like a whole lot of spin and damage control to keep it from hurting his draft status.


This article describes in astounding detail how Manti and Lennay met in person http://articles.sout...rish-head-coach

EDIT: The page is no longer available, LOL, the plot thickens

#2922 Chitown021

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:55 AM

Well he is telling the truth about being the victim of a hoax. The problem is it's looking more and more like a hoax he created!
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:42 PM

This article describes in astounding detail how Manti and Lennay met in person http://articles.sout...rish-head-coach

EDIT: The page is no longer available, LOL, the plot thickens

http://webcache.goog...rish-head-coach

Is this the one you are looking for?

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 01:35 AM

http://webcache.goog...rish-head-coach

Is this the one you are looking for?


That leads to a 404 error also, but anyways, the South Bend Tribune reposted it. They took it off claiming the article had been archived for 2 months already (flat out lie, several people on their FB page reported reading the article on the 16th, including myself)

Everyone looks bad in this situation.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:06 PM

That leads to a 404 error also, but anyways, the South Bend Tribune reposted it. They took it off claiming the article had been archived for 2 months already (flat out lie, several people on their FB page reported reading the article on the 16th, including myself)

Everyone looks bad in this situation.

Well shit, it was working when I posted it. At least they reposted it.

#2926 JStryke

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 07:14 PM

I'm not sure what's more ridiculous. Manti Te'o's imaginary girlfriend or the people trying to capitalize on it.

http://www.florencef...tes.php?nID=370

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 09:44 PM

The media should have known that the GF didn't exist since the WBC didn't attempt to protest the funeral.
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#2928 chuckie88

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 05:49 PM

I'm not sure what's more ridiculous. Manti Te'o's imaginary girlfriend or the people trying to capitalize on it.

http://www.florencef...tes.php?nID=370


Actually, I think that the Freedom have the right idea. The imaginary-friend-day type activities sound like a good time to me! :lol:
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#2929 Chitown021

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 06:46 PM

The media should have known that the GF didn't exist since the WBC didn't attempt to protest the funeral.



LOL, bravo sir! :applause:

Even thought it was an imaginary death I'm surprised they still didn't try to protest in and spew their nonsense.
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#2930 blindinglights

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 06:48 PM

Manti's interview hasn't made me any less suspicious. Especially considering he confessed to lying about actually meeting her.
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#2931 A Happy Panda

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 08:57 PM

Manti's interview hasn't made me any less suspicious. Especially considering he confessed to lying about actually meeting her.


I still don't get why the interview wasn't done on camera.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:05 PM

LOL, bravo sir! :applause:

Even thought it was an imaginary death I'm surprised they still didn't try to protest in and spew their nonsense.


Exactly
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#2933 niceguyshawne

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 04:38 AM

Actually, I think that the Freedom have the right idea. The imaginary-friend-day type activities sound like a good time to me! :lol:


I think that this idea is awesome as well but they are getting a ton of hate for it on their Facebook page.
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#2934 dmaul1114

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:27 PM

Lots of rumblings about realignment again center around the ACC getting raided.

http://texas.rivals....asp?CID=1463673

Big 12 has a meeting on Monday and Tuesday and discussing expansion is on the agenda. Rumblings on twitter and boards that UVA is close to jumping to the Big Ten. UMD filed a countersuit to the ACC and per reports it's starting to look like they'll get out of all or most of the buyout (looks as though the jump from $20 million to $50 million may not go into effect until July). If so that would really open the flood gates.

The common twitter/board speculation is something along the following lines:

Big Ten grabs UVA and UNC or GT.

If it's UVA, SEC takes UNC and Duke. If it's UNC the SEC goes elsewhere--maybe VT and NC State

Big 12 grabs 4-6 of the rest to get to 14 or 16 members. FSU, Miami and Clemson are the most strongly rumored. With GT, VT, NC State and Lousiville also mentioned if they aren't grabbed by one of the other two.

In any case, all that stuff is just speculation. Only facts are that the Big 12 commish said the other day that they could be proactive in expansion and that they will discuss it at the meeting next week.

I'm kind of indifferent. I'd like WVU to get some eastern partners. But most of the teams discussed are so far south that it really doesn't help much on travel. If there was more talk about Lousiville, Pitt, and VT to the Big 12 I'd be more intrigued as that would get old rivals back and cut down on travel for the team and fans a lot.

#2935 lordopus99

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 03:25 AM

I thought we were raided last year...

#2936 dmaul1114

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 09:14 PM

http://buckeyextra.d...ks-ongoing.html

The Columbus dispatch got the minutes from an Ohio State Athletic Council meeting in December (well after the UMD and Rutgers additions) in which OSU president Gordon Gee said that Big Ten discussion of further expansion was on-going and that he believed that there is movement toward 3 or 4 super conferences of 16-20 teams each.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 06:39 PM

Interesting speculation, I'm sure that the conference realignment stuff will only continue over the next few months. If I'm being a selfish Wolverine fan, I'd be excited to have Georgia Tech join the Big Ten so that I would have the chance to watch Michigan here in Atlanta.
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#2938 dmaul1114

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:43 PM

http://espn.go.com/c...edule-fcs-teams

The Big 10 will no longer schedule FCS teams. I hope the other power leagues follow suit. We should see a move toward playing tougher schedules since the selection committee will heavily consider SoS when picking the 4 teams.

Also likely good news for mid-majors as now they'll get a few more games against Big 10 teams (and other leagues if they follow suit) in place of the FCS cupcake games.

As for realignment, nothing new there. Just the same rumblings as last month. Seems everything is in a holding pattern pending the outcome of the UMD-ACC lawsuits.

Only semi-news was the ACC tried again to get members to agree to a grant of rights to solidify the league, but the vote failed.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 11:42 PM

I agree, this is good news for the mid-major schools.
I'm glad the Big 10 decided to get the ball rolling.
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#2940 dmaul1114

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:35 PM

The Big 10 raiding ACC again stuff is picking up a lot of steam on Twitter with some media types included. Dienhart from the Big Ten Network tweeted some stuff yesterday and ESPN Insider Rumor Central has picked up on it as well (don't have an account so can only read this blurb).

http://insider.espn....her-acc-program
Back room deals to decide college football's future as it pertains to realignment appear to be in full swing once again. And it's the Big Ten Conference which continues to lead the way.

An offer to join the Big Ten has reportedly been extended to another ACC program.

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UVA and UNC are the two teams discussed on Twitter, with UVA thought to be a lock and UNC weighting the decision as they want Duke to go with them and apparently the B1G isn't interested.