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#31 UncleBob

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 05:44 AM

I already did, dumbshit. Did you read the post?

I'm not going to argue semantics with you.


If by "semantics" you mean you never named anyone, then sure.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 05:52 AM

You're really stretching it here. So what you're saying here is that Martin was so hopped up on iced tea that he pulled a full grown man that is 100 pounds heavier than him, out of a car, either by ripping the door off its hinge, through the window, and/or teleporting him out of it with his mutant negro powers, and then proceeded to go Sam Jackson on Zimmerman? Is this accurate?

Or maybe you should just read some articles on the story instead of being your usual ignorant self and have an informed opinion for once.



I did read an article:

http://www.palmbeach...xtype=rss_crime


"George Zimmerman is Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family.."

AND

"Zimmerman told police he acted in self-defense. Police found blood on his face and the back of his head as well as grass on the back of his shirt.

That jibes with what Cheryl Brown's teenage son witnessed while walking his dog that night. Thirteen-year-old Austin stepped out his front door and heard people fighting, he told the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday.

"I heard screaming and crying for help," he said. "I heard, 'Help me.' "

It was dark, and the boy did not see how the fight started, in fact, he only saw one person, a man in a red shirt — Zimmerman — who was on the ground."


Now that more is slowly being released it is starting to make some of you look like idiots.



BUT because he got out of his vehicle it's a crime? He's guilty right? Because it seems like that is the leg you're standing on

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 05:55 AM

If by "semantics" you mean you never named anyone, then sure.


So I answered twice and then you repeated my answer. Do you have a mental disability or something?

Lets cut the bullshit. If you have a point to make, then make it. If not, then name some names.

#34 UncleBob

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:05 AM

DD - I've named as many names as you have.

GBAStar - It doesn't matter if this guy turns out to be David Duke in disguise or Jesse Jackson in disguise. The folks here have already made up their mind. "White" man (even if he isn't white) shooting a black man - racist. Facts do not equate into the situation.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:07 AM

DD - I've named as many names as you have.

GBAStar - It doesn't matter if this guy turns out to be David Duke in disguise or Jesse Jackson in disguise. The folks here have already made up their mind. "White" man (even if he isn't white) shooting a black man - racist. Facts do not equate into the situation.


I actually said I didn't really care if he was racist, I just don't think any reason short of the kid hitting him with a barbed wire bat would justify shooting the kid in the chest.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:13 AM

I did read an article:

http://www.palmbeach...xtype=rss_crime


"George Zimmerman is Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family.."

AND

"Zimmerman told police he acted in self-defense. Police found blood on his face and the back of his head as well as grass on the back of his shirt.

That jibes with what Cheryl Brown's teenage son witnessed while walking his dog that night. Thirteen-year-old Austin stepped out his front door and heard people fighting, he told the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday.

"I heard screaming and crying for help," he said. "I heard, 'Help me.' "

It was dark, and the boy did not see how the fight started, in fact, he only saw one person, a man in a red shirt — Zimmerman — who was on the ground."


Now that more is slowly being released it is starting to make some of you look like idiots.



BUT because he got out of his vehicle it's a crime? He's guilty right? Because it seems like that is the leg you're standing on

Being multiracial doesn't mean that you identify as a person of color. Unless you're arguing the one-drop rule, you're barking up the wrong tree.

Zimmerman was in his car following Martin. The incident didn't start when he got out of his car. If someone was following you in a relatively unknown neighborhood, you'd probably be put on the defensive too. Zimmerman was told not to engage and wait for the cops. He then said, "Those assholes always get away." 2 minutes later, Martin was shot. You don't get to claim self-defense if you start a fight or initiate threatening behavior.

Or maybe, you can tell us how a black kid in a hoodie looks suspicious with skittles and iced tea.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:24 AM

DD - I've named as many names as you have.

So you agree that since whites benefit the most, that it is impossible for a white person to not be racist according to how you think I define racism.

You're a really dishonest sack of shit.

GBAStar - It doesn't matter if this guy turns out to be David Duke in disguise or Jesse Jackson in disguise. The folks here have already made up their mind. "White" man (even if he isn't white) shooting a black man - racist. Facts do not equate into the situation.


Racism doesn't require hate to be oppressive. Racism=!hate.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:29 AM

Being multiracial doesn't mean that you identify as a person of color. Unless you're arguing the one-drop rule, you're barking up the wrong tree.

Zimmerman was in his car following Martin. The incident didn't start when he got out of his car. If someone was following you in a relatively unknown neighborhood, you'd probably be put on the defensive too. Zimmerman was told not to engage and wait for the cops. He then said, "Those assholes always get away." 2 minutes later, Martin was shot. You don't get to claim self-defense if you start a fight or initiate threatening behavior.

Or maybe, you can tell us how a black kid in a hoodie looks suspicious with skittles and iced tea.



I have never seen more biased, manipulative reporting in my life. Read this gem:

http://www.sun-senti...story?track=rss

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:50 AM

I have never seen more biased, manipulative reporting in my life. Read this gem:

http://www.sun-senti...story?track=rss


Facts have a liberal bias.:roll:

The 911 tapes have been released. Since you've been doing some "research," you should've at least read the summaries and it doesn't look good for Zimmerman's story.

#40 UncleBob

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:53 AM

DD - I don't know if you're more confused by the definition of the word "name" or the concept of "single person".

I say this because I asked if you could name a single white person and, while you've yet to actually post a name, you keep saying that you've answered.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 07:10 AM

DD - I don't know if you're more confused by the definition of the word "name" or the concept of "single person".

I say this because I asked if you could name a single white person and, while you've yet to actually post a name, you keep saying that you've answered.


No, what you want to have happen here is for me to say that I won't name anyone because, according to how you're defining racism, I think everyone is racist. Or if I name someone, then it would mean that not every white person is racist.

Pick one and choose your own adventure.

I already defined some facets of how racism works and how it pertains to this incident, so why the Fuck are you sticking to a child's understanding of the word, racism.

For Fuck's sake. This is like me explaining that the sky is blue because molecules in the air skatter the light while you're screaming at the top of your lungs that it's the reflection of the ocean.

Edited by dohdough, 17 March 2012 - 07:21 AM.


#42 UncleBob

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 07:14 AM

No, what you want to have happen here is for me to say that I won't name anyone because, according to how you're defining racism, I think everyone is racist. Or if I name someone, then it would mean that not every white person is racist.


That second half is interesting. Your biggest concern with the idea of naming someone is that it'll mean that not every white person is racist. As if that's a bad thing.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 07:15 AM

Facts have a liberal bias.:roll:

The 911 tapes have been released. Since you've been doing some "research," you should've at least read the summaries and it doesn't look good for Zimmerman's story.


"Sanford, Fla., Police Chief Billy Lee said Zimmerman asserts he shot Martin out of self-defense....

....Until we can establish probable cause to dispute that, we don't have the grounds to arrest him," Lee said last Tuesday."

A dispatcher told him to wait for a police cruiser, and not leave his vehicle. But about a minute later, Zimmerman left his car wearing a red sweatshirt and pursued Martin on foot between two rows of townhouses, about 70 yards from where the teen was going.

Zimmerman's pursuit of Martin did not of itself constitute a crime, Lee said. "


Let's put an end to the comments about him disregarding the "advice" (i.e. not legally binding commands) of the 911 dispatcher and being in the wrong solely because he left the vehicle.


Now let's look at the 911 calls...


“The guy on top has a white t-shirt,” another caller said.

Who had a white T-Shirt on? Not Zimmerman....

And

Within minutes, however, 911 calls are being made to police reporting the two are fighting.

"They're wrestling right in the back of my porch," one frantic caller says. "The guy's yelling help and I'm not going out."


Kind of makes these people from the earlier article look like idiots:

This was not self defense,” Cutcher said. “We heard no fighting, no wrestling, no punching. We heard a boy crying. As soon as the shot went off, it stopped, which tells me it was the child crying. If it had been Zimmerman crying, it wouldn’t have stopped. If you’re hurting, you’re hurting.”
She and her friend say they heard the sounds from a few steps away, where they were inside beside an open window. Seconds later, they dashed out to find a boy face down on the ground and a man standing over him, a foot on each side of the body on the ground, with his hands pinning the shooting victim down.
“I asked him, ‘What’s happening here? What’s going on?’ said Cutcher’s friend, who did not want her name published for fear for her safety. “The third time, I was indignant, and he said, ‘just call the police.’ Then I saw him with his hands over his head in the universal sign of: ‘Oh man, I messed up.’”

The women, who were the first on the scene, said they saw Zimmerman pacing back and forth.
I know what I heard. I heard a cry and a shot,” the second witness said. “If there was a fight, it did not happen here where the boy was shot. I would have heard it, as this all happened right outside my open window.”
The women think there may well have been a physical altercation between the two, but it must have taken place in a different spot, where Zimmerman perhaps had a chance to compose himself and draw his weapon.
Cutcher was one of eight or nine 911 callers that night but she said investigators dismissed her, and a detective failed follow up with her. Both women said police seemed very blasé.


^ Maybe the reason why the detective came of as "Blase" was because he could tell the woman from that article were idiots and their story makes no friggin sense and doesn't support the facts and what was reported by other witnesses... just a hunch

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 07:23 AM

So basically this guy took the law into his own hands, couldn't handle a kid, and shot him dead.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 07:38 AM

That second half is interesting. Your biggest concern with the idea of naming someone is that it'll mean that not every white person is racist. As if that's a bad thing.


Look shit-for-brains, every white person in the US benefits from being on top of the social heirarchy of race. It doesn't matter if there are white people that don't hate black people when by doing nothing to make things more equitable, just perpetuates systemic inequalities/racism. For the nth time, you don't have to hate someone to do or say something racist.

Your question is dumb and meaningless because it's a child's understanding of racism. Grow the Fuck up.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 07:50 AM

"Sanford, Fla., Police Chief Billy Lee said Zimmerman asserts he shot Martin out of self-defense....

....Until we can establish probable cause to dispute that, we don't have the grounds to arrest him," Lee said last Tuesday."

A dispatcher told him to wait for a police cruiser, and not leave his vehicle. But about a minute later, Zimmerman left his car wearing a red sweatshirt and pursued Martin on foot between two rows of townhouses, about 70 yards from where the teen was going.

Zimmerman's pursuit of Martin did not of itself constitute a crime, Lee said. "


Let's put an end to the comments about him disregarding the "advice" (i.e. not legally binding commands) of the 911 dispatcher and being in the wrong solely because he left the vehicle.


Now let's look at the 911 calls...


“The guy on top has a white t-shirt,” another caller said.

Who had a white T-Shirt on? Not Zimmerman....

And

Within minutes, however, 911 calls are being made to police reporting the two are fighting.

"They're wrestling right in the back of my porch," one frantic caller says. "The guy's yelling help and I'm not going out."


Kind of makes these people from the earlier article look like idiots:

This was not self defense,” Cutcher said. “We heard no fighting, no wrestling, no punching. We heard a boy crying. As soon as the shot went off, it stopped, which tells me it was the child crying. If it had been Zimmerman crying, it wouldn’t have stopped. If you’re hurting, you’re hurting.”
She and her friend say they heard the sounds from a few steps away, where they were inside beside an open window. Seconds later, they dashed out to find a boy face down on the ground and a man standing over him, a foot on each side of the body on the ground, with his hands pinning the shooting victim down.
“I asked him, ‘What’s happening here? What’s going on?’ said Cutcher’s friend, who did not want her name published for fear for her safety. “The third time, I was indignant, and he said, ‘just call the police.’ Then I saw him with his hands over his head in the universal sign of: ‘Oh man, I messed up.’”

The women, who were the first on the scene, said they saw Zimmerman pacing back and forth.
I know what I heard. I heard a cry and a shot,” the second witness said. “If there was a fight, it did not happen here where the boy was shot. I would have heard it, as this all happened right outside my open window.”
The women think there may well have been a physical altercation between the two, but it must have taken place in a different spot, where Zimmerman perhaps had a chance to compose himself and draw his weapon.
Cutcher was one of eight or nine 911 callers that night but she said investigators dismissed her, and a detective failed follow up with her. Both women said police seemed very blasé.


^ Maybe the reason why the detective came of as "Blase" was because he could tell the woman from that article were idiots and their story makes no friggin sense and doesn't support the facts and what was reported by other witnesses... just a hunch


Walking on a motherfucking street with a hoodie on isn't a motherfucking crime either so why the Fuck did Zimmerman think he was suspicious? If the witnesses were so unreliable, why did the cops ask leading questions when the tapes corroborate with their account of Martin being the one pleading for help? If Zimmerman never got out of the car, there would've never been a shooting. Records indicate that Zimmerman has a history of violence and oversteps his authority, so why the Fuck is he given more benefit of the doubt compared to an average kid? Is it so unlikely that Zimmerman decided to try and detain Martin until the cops showed up considering his history of this kind of bullshit? Is it so unlikely that it was most likely Martin that was acting in self defense?

This is not some isolated incident of Zimmerman acting like a wannabe cop, this guy has a fucking history of it.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 07:56 AM

So basically this guy took the law into his own hands, couldn't handle a kid, and shot him dead.



I'd say that is accurate.

I certainly don't want to sound like I'm defending the final outcome (dead kid) but my point is to those that think race was a motive in the killing as I'm willing to bet race and racism has played a much larger role in shaping the comments in this thread and in the newspaper articles then it did with the outcome that night.

I mean the dude (Zimmerman) made something like 60+ calls to the police in just 14 months. I think it is safe to say that not every single call was to report a suspicous black person in a hoodie.

If anything this article should focus on restricting gun control as he (Zimmerman) would make a good poster boy for why it is NOT a good idea to let average joe blows walk around with concealed handguns.

#48 UncleBob

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 08:01 AM

Look shit-for-brains, every white person in the US benefits from being on top of the social heirarchy of race. It doesn't matter if there are white people that don't hate black people when by doing nothing to make things more equitable, just perpetuates systemic inequalities/racism. For the nth time, you don't have to hate someone to do or say something racist.

Your question is dumb and meaningless because it's a child's understanding of racism. Grow the Fuck up.


i.e.: Racism will never be over as long as there are white people.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 08:01 AM

Walking on a motherfucking street with a hoodie on isn't a motherfucking crime either so why the Fuck did Zimmerman think he was suspicious? If the witnesses were so unreliable, why did the cops ask leading questions when the tapes corroborate with their account of Martin being the one pleading for help? If Zimmerman never got out of the car, there would've never been a shooting. Records indicate that Zimmerman has a history of violence and oversteps his authority, so why the Fuck is he given more benefit of the doubt compared to an average kid? Is it so unlikely that Zimmerman decided to try and detain Martin until the cops showed up considering his history of this kind of bullshit? Is it so unlikely that it was most likely Martin that was acting in self defense?

This is not some isolated incident of Zimmerman acting like a wannabe cop, this guy has a fucking history of it.



What was Zimmerman convicted of? I must have missed that.....

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 08:19 AM

i.e.: Racism will never be over as long as there are white people.

The sky is blue because its the reflection of the ocean...

Fuck it. You know what? I'm done explaining this shit to you. Racism never be over because of ignorant fucks like you.


What was Zimmerman convicted of? I must have missed that.....


He hasn't been arrested for murder but that doesn't mean he never killed anyone, but feel free to keep white knighting this guy. Pun intended.

#51 UncleBob

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 08:26 AM

Fuck it. You know what? I'm done explaining this shit to you.


Thank whatever deities do exist. This means there will be less posts about how all white people are either racists or closet racists - so that's a win for sanity.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 08:36 AM

Thank whatever deities do exist. This means there will be less posts about how all white people are either racists or closet racists - so that's a win for sanity.


Cause racism only operates on an individual basis right? The white man's burden must be breaking your back. Get fucked.

#53 UncleBob

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 08:47 AM

Cry me a river, DD. Cry me a river.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:49 AM

I'd say that is accurate.

I certainly don't want to sound like I'm defending the final outcome (dead kid) but my point is to those that think race was a motive in the killing as I'm willing to bet race and racism has played a much larger role in shaping the comments in this thread and in the newspaper articles then it did with the outcome that night.

I mean the dude (Zimmerman) made something like 60+ calls to the police in just 14 months. I think it is safe to say that not every single call was to report a suspicous black person in a hoodie.

If anything this article should focus on restricting gun control as he (Zimmerman) would make a good poster boy for why it is NOT a good idea to let average joe blows walk around with concealed handguns.


Yeah, I can agree with you there. I'm not as sold as DD that this was a race issue, but there's no doubt this is an issue about why people shouldn't be running around like Clint Eastwood, it's just too easy to make the wrong decision.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:10 PM

I'd say that is accurate.

I certainly don't want to sound like I'm defending the final outcome (dead kid)


You are.

I mean the dude (Zimmerman) made something like 60+ calls to the police in just 14 months. I think it is safe to say that not every single call was to report a suspicous black person in a hoodie.


A rational person would take it to mean the guy should have tamped down about a year before.

Also, I don't take it as evidence of anything that law enforcement is ignoring this for now.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 03:06 PM

I'd say that is accurate.

I certainly don't want to sound like I'm defending the final outcome (dead kid) but my point is to those that think race was a motive in the killing as I'm willing to bet race and racism has played a much larger role in shaping the comments in this thread and in the newspaper articles then it did with the outcome that night.

I mean the dude (Zimmerman) made something like 60+ calls to the police in just 14 months. I think it is safe to say that not every single call was to report a suspicous black person in a hoodie.

If anything this article should focus on restricting gun control as he (Zimmerman) would make a good poster boy for why it is NOT a good idea to let average joe blows walk around with concealed handguns.

If all this is true, then why are you trolling me like a contrarian cum rag when no more than five minutes after that particular post, you ask me when he was convicted of anything as if walking away with killing someone isn't enough. Does talking about racism make you go cross-eyed and go spontaneously dumb or something?

Yeah, I can agree with you there. I'm not as sold as DD that this was a race issue, but there's no doubt this is an issue about why people shouldn't be running around like Clint Eastwood, it's just too easy to make the wrong decision.

Personal racism, this is an important distinction, probably played a huge part of why Zimmerman decided to not only stalk, but ultimately try to confront Martin, which lead to the murder. But this is a separate issue from why Zimmerman hasn't been arrested. His lack of arrest has more to do with systemic racism because he's not only protected as a white man that killed a kid, but specifically a black kid.

Having a black person locked up or killed by white people isn't anything new, but when the inaction of the state allows the perpetrators to get away with it, that's the larger problem that we need to address. It's less about whites hating black people KKK style and more about how the system tells us that black lives are worth less than white ones. This is easily seen in death penalty statistics in which people that murder white people are sentenced to death twice as much as the murder of black people. I mean how the Fuck would anyone explain that when the race of the murderer has no effect on sentencing?

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 03:18 PM

The shooter Zimmerman is "white" but he doesn't sit on top of the so-called socially constructed hierarchy of races. The guy is Latino and comes from a multiracial family according to his father. In any case, the real story will come out, no matter which way it gets resolved. Just like Jena 6.

But it certainly provides for a lot of discussion in the meantime. Interestingly enough, when you look at certain crime statistics, a lot of Latino/Mexican/Hispanic/Whatever suspects are labeled white, which certainly skews things a bit. The privileged whites certain people rage against are probably overstated in the crime stats.

Demographics may be interesting. Sanford is about 30 percent black and 20 percent Hispanic of any race. Where there are large blocs of Hispanics and blacks, there is often tension. A similar drama is playing out in South Los Angeles as blacks feel Mexican immigrants are pushing them out. This NPR story suggests longstanding racial tensions in Sanford.

But it is amazing to see the coverage of a "white" man shooting a black kid. I see about 800 to 900 articles on Google News alone. I didn't see very many articles about the black teens setting that white child on fire and telling him, "That's what you get white boy."

The tram experience lady had her day in court after going on a racist rant on British public transportation. Not so well-known are the Muslim girls who beat down a British white woman, calling her "white slag." They were let off easy because the judge was convinced they were not used to alcohol due to their faith.

Those girls who talked about the black students vs. "$$$$er" students in their school were outcast by society. Of course, we rarely hear about the black on white, black on black, white on white, brown on brown, brown on black, black on brown hate crimes.

Where are the whites involved in the black/brown brawls in South Los Angeles? Should we also cover tensions within different groups of brown folk? By not covering this aspect of the story, the myth that only whites are racist continues to be fueled.

The issue is simplified into white on black and we never get to the true dynamic of the problem, that sometimes it doesn't even involve "whites." And if we can't pin it on a white guy, the media won't cover it. Violence will continue across and within racial lines regardless of the outcome of this particular story because we fail to look at the issue in a complex and honest way. That's not going to happen, so just bring on the inevitable increase in diversity classes, affirmative action and white guilt already.

Edited by Spokker, 17 March 2012 - 03:30 PM.


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Posted 17 March 2012 - 03:40 PM

The shooter Zimmerman is "white" but he doesn't sit on top of the so-called socially constructed hierarchy of races. The guy is Latino and comes from a multiracial family according to his father. In any case, the real story will come out, no matter which way it gets resolved. Just like Jena 6.

But it certainly provides for a lot of discussion in the meantime. Interestingly enough, when you look at certain crime statistics, a lot of Latino/Mexican/Hispanic/Whatever suspects are labeled white, which certainly skews things a bit. The privileged whites certain people rage against are probably overstated in the crime stats.

Demographics may be interesting. Sanford is about 30 percent black and 20 percent Hispanic of any race. Where there are large blocs of Hispanics and blacks, there is often tension. A similar drama is playing out in South Los Angeles as blacks feel Mexican immigrants are pushing them out. This NPR story suggests longstanding racial tensions in Sanford.

But it is amazing to see the coverage of a "white" man shooting a black kid. I see about 800 to 900 articles on Google News alone. I didn't see very many articles about the black teens setting that white child on fire and telling him, "That's what you get white boy."

The tram experience lady had her day in court after going on a racist rant on British public transportation. Not so well-known are the Muslim girls who beat down a British white woman, calling her "white slag." They were let off easy because the judge was convinced they were not used to alcohol due to their faith.

Those girls who talked about the black students vs. "$$$$er" students in their school were outcast by society. Of course, we rarely hear about the black on white, black on black, white on white, brown on brown, brown on black, black on brown hate crimes.

Where are the whites involved in the black/brown brawls in South Los Angeles? Should we also cover tensions within different groups of brown folk? By not covering this aspect of the story, the myth that only whites are racist continues to be fueled.

The issue is simplified into white on black and we never get to the true dynamic of the problem, that sometimes it doesn't even involve "whites." And if we can't pin it on a white guy, the media won't cover it. Violence will continue across and within racial lines regardless of the outcome of this particular story because we fail to look at the issue in a complex and honest way. That's not going to happen, so just bring on the inevitable increase in diversity classes, affirmative action and white guilt already.


So lemme get this straight...white kids from Jena don't know the long history of lynching, black on non-black crime never gets reported, white Hispanics don't exist, Europe doesn't have a racism problem, people of color are prone and commit just as much hate crime against whites, and white people feel guilty. Gotcha.

#59 Spokker

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 03:42 PM

In other news, the black militia group wants to take the law into their own hands (looks like Zimmerman isn't the only cowboy in town) and take him in.

http://www.cbsnews.c...trayvon-martin/

Florida has that sweet, sweet castle doctrine and Zimmerman is licensed to carry. They should air the event on Pay-Per-View.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 04:06 PM

So lemme get this straight...white kids from Jena don't know the long history of lynching, black on non-black crime never gets reported, white Hispanics don't exist, Europe doesn't have a racism problem, people of color are prone and commit just as much hate crime against whites, and white people feel guilty. Gotcha.


Jena 6 was a bunch of fucking bullshit and is a perfect example of the cable news outlets distorting a racial story.

Black on white crime is reported on less intensely than white on black crime, yes. The latter becomes a media sensation and the former is relegated to the funny pages. When racial crimes perpetuated by blacks against whites are reported, the race of the offender is often hidden. In the opposite case, well, here you go.

White Hispanics exist, but they aren't the privileged WASPS so-called anti-racists seem to carry on about. I find it odd that if I commit a crime, it goes into the white stats, if we're going to keep such stats.

Europe has a racism problem, and it goes both ways.

People of color are more likely to commit crimes against whites than whites committing crimes against blacks. Even if we are talking about actual "hate crimes," whites commit 62% of hate crimes (which probably also includes white Hispanics) and blacks 19% as of 2009 FBI statistics. Whites are 74.8% of the population and blacks 12.4%. In all, Jews comprised 71.9 percent of the victims, so they should be the ones complaining.

The whole idea, however, only perpetuates this group mentality we have. These crimes by individuals against society, not crimes by groups against other groups. That's the ideal, of course, but it may not be the reality. Suffice to say, we encourage divisiveness.