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#8281 Bumslie

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 03:21 PM

After trying the demos, Sine Mora and Knytt Underground are definite buys for me.


I figured you'd buy Knytt Underground. I know I'm going to get lost for hours in that game. I love the feeling of exploration that old NES had and the was a flashback. Sine Mora is such a steal for $4.89 and looks beautiful on the Vita.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 03:26 PM

I am totally blown away by how excellent Knytt Underground is. It's just so good. The world is enormous and incredibly varied, with different parts of the map being very distinct and recognizable. At first I was disappointed that there was no power progression a-la Metroid where you gain abilities that unlock new parts of the map; here everything is open all at once, you just have to figure out how to get in. After playing for a good 8 or 10 hours though I have to say that it really makes for an incredible experience; you can just wander and explore freely, going wherever there are empty spaces on the map and circling round if you hit a dead end.

Yes, 8 or 10 hours. This game is big. I've still only opened up about two-thirds of the map in that time, and I know there are a TON of secret areas I haven't touched (I've found two or three so far but there are many many more). I'm sure it's possible to "win" in less time than I've already spent, if you beeline to objectives and skip over side quests, but man you'd be missing out.

Also of note: the storyline is very weird, and the characters are really full of tropes, but it's still incredibly entertaining. I'm finding myself fascinated by the world and the question of how it became the way it is, and of course science vs. religion is always a fertile germ to grow a world around.

Everyone should try the demo. If you like it even a little bit you should grab the game while it's on sale. The demo gives you a taste, but there's more to the actual game, as you gain a crucial ability:
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Give it a try.

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#8283 6er

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 04:14 PM

Gahh I have a backlog and fear sine Mora and kyntt will be free through plus in the future, but you guys have almost convinced....

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 04:15 PM

Gahh I have a backlog and fear sine Mora and kyntt will be free through plus in the future, but you guys have almost convinced....


get Sine Mora.
I'm undecided on Knytt and Big Sky Infinity

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#8285 affa

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 04:52 PM

Gahh I have a backlog and fear sine Mora and kyntt will be free through plus in the future, but you guys have almost convinced....


Sine Mora is a love letter to schmup fans. Incredible bosses, great vibe, great controls -- multiple ships + multiple pilots (subweapons) + multiple power capsules (time slow down, bullet reflection, time rollback) ensure vastly different gameplay (and replay value).

lots of nice to haves-- for example, as soon as you meet a boss you unlock that boss in 'boss trainer' mode, so you can easily practice them. difficultly should appeal to all (story mode on normal isn't particularly difficult, and allows 10 continues + starting on any chapter, while score attack mode on insane offers a massive challenge for the hardcore).

and it controls really, really well. the trophies will requires mastering the game, but that's the kind of schmup this is.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 04:59 PM

I keep waiting for RollingSkull to chime in and tell everyone how much Sine Mora sucks, but he's probably just a PC gamer and doesn't come into PS3 threads.

I have no opinion, since I don't have it.
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#8287 tylerh1701

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 05:02 PM

^He comes to the XBL thread once in a while to shit on pretty much every indie game except for Shank/Shank2. I don't think I've ever seen him in the PSN thread.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 05:13 PM

Sine Mora is a love letter to schmup fans. Incredible bosses, great vibe, great controls -- multiple ships + multiple pilots (subweapons) + multiple power capsules (time slow down, bullet reflection, time rollback) ensure vastly different gameplay (and replay value).

lots of nice to haves-- for example, as soon as you meet a boss you unlock that boss in 'boss trainer' mode, so you can easily practice them. difficultly should appeal to all (story mode on normal isn't particularly difficult, and allows 10 continues + starting on any chapter, while score attack mode on insane offers a massive challenge for the hardcore).

and it controls really, really well. the trophies will requires mastering the game, but that's the kind of schmup this is.


for the life of me I can't get past the level where you have to stay within the trash

#8289 handsomepete

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 05:38 PM

for the life of me I can't get past the level where you have to stay within the trash


that run sucks. the only advice I can give is try to hang near the back end of the trash (still staying in it), makes it slightly easier to see where it's going. after blowing up a half dozen times that worked ok for me.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 05:40 PM

Hmm... tempted to get SF X T for the Vita, especially considering I don't have the DLC for the PS3 version. On the other hand, common sense would tell me that the cart (which I'd rather have for space reasons) can't be too far away from hitting $20. But on the OTHER hand... Capcom has only dropped down UMVC3 to $30 retail after an entire year. Tough call for me.


Following up on my own thought here, but does anyone know if the code that comes with SF X T retail package expires? Since getting the 12 characters as DLC is a big motivation for me in this deal, that would factor in for me whether I should get this in the sale or wait for the retail cart to drop.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 05:45 PM

Not sure if I should buy any of these....BlazBlue, Dokuro, Knytt, Sine Mora, or Sumioni. I pretty much have enough waiting to be played as it is and I'm a plus subscriber. Prices seem good though.

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#8292 jacknicklson

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 05:47 PM

The answer should be no
Digital backlog is even more wasteful than a physical one

#8293 wilflare

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 06:19 PM

and I'm done with Sine Mora. pretty short but I guess the fun comes with mastery.
I have $8 to spend before I get $100
should I go for Knytt and Big Sky Infinity (asked this plenty of times but each time I get mixed responses).

was thinking of DW Next or EDF... lol but I guess the $ should go towards P4G

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#8294 Bumslie

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 06:24 PM

and I'm done with Sine Mora. pretty short but I guess the fun comes with mastery.
I have $8 to spend before I get $100
should I go for Knytt and Big Sky Infinity (asked this plenty of times but each time I get mixed responses).

was thinking of DW Next or EDF... lol but I guess the $ should go towards P4G


Knytt Underground is great if exploring is something you enjoy. I heard more negative about Big Sky than Knytt Underground.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 06:25 PM

The answer should be no
Digital backlog is even more wasteful than a physical one


lol good call! Yeah with MGS HD, AC III, LBP, and Resistance yet to be played I think I'm good for awhile. That's not even counting the Plus stuff I want to play like Jet Grind. Thanks for being the voice of reason!

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#8296 The Furry Panda

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 06:35 PM

and I'm done with Sine Mora. pretty short but I guess the fun comes with mastery.
I have $8 to spend before I get $100
should I go for Knytt and Big Sky Infinity (asked this plenty of times but each time I get mixed responses).

was thinking of DW Next or EDF... lol but I guess the $ should go towards P4G

Buy knytt. Don't play the demo, cuz you just have to do it all over again x.x. But it's great. I'm addicted.

#8297 Bumslie

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 06:43 PM

Buy knytt. Don't play the demo, cuz you just have to do it all over again x.x. But it's great. I'm addicted.


I started playing the demo then after 15-20 minutes I realized I was going to purchase. That was enough gameplay for me to make a decision. I also didn't want to do everything over again. This game takes me back to my younger gaming years it's excellent.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 07:02 PM

was thinking of DW Next or EDF... lol but I guess the $ should go towards P4G

You can easily get over 100 hours of gameplay from P4G. If you want something that will last you a while, get that.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 07:16 PM

lol good call! Yeah with MGS HD, AC III, LBP, and Resistance yet to be played I think I'm good for awhile. That's not even counting the Plus stuff I want to play like Jet Grind. Thanks for being the voice of reason!


Resistance, while not good, is a very quick clear/platinum if you want to feel better about your backlog. I cranked it out in 2 long train trips myself...

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 07:29 PM

Resistance, while not good, is a very quick clear/platinum if you want to feel better about your backlog. I cranked it out in 2 long train trips myself...

I actually really enjoyed burning skies. Not sure why it gets so much hate. Haven't played the online, but I doubt its horrible or anything. The story actually kept me interested the whole way through and I wanted to know what the hell was going on. Unlike 3...or 2... lol.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 07:45 PM

lol good call! Yeah with MGS HD, AC III, LBP, and Resistance yet to be played I think I'm good for awhile. That's not even counting the Plus stuff I want to play like Jet Grind. Thanks for being the voice of reason!


Physical backlog seems worse to me. Wastes space on your shelf and the copy itself could be being played by someone else who doesn't buy digital.

#8302 jkam

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 07:55 PM

Resistance, while not good, is a very quick clear/platinum if you want to feel better about your backlog. I cranked it out in 2 long train trips myself...


Yeah I'm playing Unit 13 and I'm on the last solo mission so Resistance is probably next :). Thanks for the info.

I actually really enjoyed burning skies. Not sure why it gets so much hate. Haven't played the online, but I doubt its horrible or anything. The story actually kept me interested the whole way through and I wanted to know what the hell was going on. Unlike 3...or 2... lol.


I agree as I did play the demo, I'm not even a 1st person shooter lover but I had fun with what I played and that is why I picked it up. Getting it cheap helped though too.

Physical backlog seems worse to me. Wastes space on your shelf and the copy itself could be being played by someone else who doesn't buy digital.


Yeah I agree, I'm trying to change my ways though too. The dream is to have 2 to 3 games in the backlog at most...someday :)

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#8303 affa

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 07:58 PM

and I'm done with Sine Mora. pretty short but I guess the fun comes with mastery.


it's definitely about mastery. on normal, you get 10 continues and can restart from later stages -- so sure, you can brute force your way through the levels fairly quickly if that's the goal.

but mastery. oh man. i just S ranked a level on arcade hard. was -not- easy.
now i'm trying to beat arcade on insane w/o pickups (and insane is insane - even enemies you destroy explode in deadly shrapnel)... though i'll likely take a break from this because i'm just not there yet.

but anyway, yea -- if you bull through the game it's not that long (well, 7 long stages, each with several levels and multiple bosses so it's not incredibly short, either) ... but mastery is where it's at. i can easily see this getting more gameplay than any of my other games.

#8304 affa

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 08:01 PM

knytt underground. man, i just don't get the love. i was turned off by the demo, but maybe exploration just isn't for me. though i'm half ready to buy it anyway.

i'm at around $27 so far towards the $50. I'd rather not have reason to reach it... though if Asphalt is near $10 next week it might happen whether i want it to or not.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 08:34 PM

I agree as I did play the demo, I'm not even a 1st person shooter lover but I had fun with what I played and that is why I picked it up. Getting it cheap helped though too.

I was burnt out on fps's when I picked it up. Then, I beat it in one sitting in a motel room over night. Was a great ride. And, I havn't played an fps since.

#8306 tylerh1701

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 08:35 PM

and I'm done with Sine Mora. pretty short but I guess the fun comes with mastery.
I have $8 to spend before I get $100
should I go for Knytt and Big Sky Infinity (asked this plenty of times but each time I get mixed responses).


Besides affa, I don't think anyone has said anything bad about Knytt. Definitely go with that, Big Sky Infinity didn't do anything for me.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 08:56 PM

Yeah I agree, I'm trying to change my ways though too. The dream is to have 2 to 3 games in the backlog at most...someday :)


Only way to do that is stop coming to this (and all other) game sites so you don't learn about sales or interesting games that come out. You can't miss them if you don't know about them :)

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 09:07 PM

Only way to do that is stop coming to this (and all other) game sites so you don't learn about sales or interesting games that come out. You can't miss them if you don't know about them :)


I keep telling myself that too! But I just...can't...stop...:wall:

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 09:14 PM

I keep telling myself that too! But I just...can't...stop...:wall:


Only way to do that is stop coming to this (and all other) game sites so you don't learn about sales or interesting games that come out. You can't miss them if you don't know about them :)


Lol, The never ending battle, Gamer vs. Backlog! FIGHT!

On a serious note though I am trying to be a little bit more selective. One good question to ask yourself is "Am I only interested in this because it's cheap?". Even still I doubt I be without something to play anytime soon :)

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 10:18 PM

Lol, The never ending battle, Gamer vs. Backlog! FIGHT!

On a serious note though I am trying to be a little bit more selective. One good question to ask yourself is "Am I only interested in this because it's cheap?". Even still I doubt I be without something to play anytime soon :)


This mantra has recently hit me. I have so many games in my backlog including FF4 through 9, FFT, Wild Arms, Grandia and other RPGs. Hell, I still have Oblivion, GTA4, Arkham Asylum and City wrapped in plastic.

I think I may have a problem. I can play max 2 hours per week if I'm lucky and some weeks I don't play at all. I will never finish these games EVER. And I bought GTA:SA last week. I probably should just delete this site.