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#121 louiedog

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:45 PM

I don't see how that would be a selling point to anyone. Both The Cave and the Kickstarter game are planned to be released on multiple platforms and The Cave can already be purchased on XBL and PSN, as well as PC, Mac, Linux and WiiU. It seems like anyone buying an Ouya will already have at least one of those platforms already and by the time Ouya hits retail, The Cave will already be months old. It really seems like too little too late.


The point is that it's not just phone games. That's why I lead off the paragraph with those words. People were worried it was going to just be that. I provided info about a developer who makes console/PC games being on board with the platform. I never said The Cave would be a system seller.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:00 PM

Looks like new hardware every year. I have one on kickstarter pre-order, but now I'm like Fuck!

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:23 PM

ouya2 2014 ouya3 2015 ouya4 2016 etc etc etc....
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:26 PM

Looks like new hardware every year. I have one on kickstarter pre-order, but now I'm like Fuck!

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I am canceling the shit out of my preorder.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:32 PM

Same here, I'm glad I'm just planning on using mine mainly for emulation and media center purposes. I can see developer support/new releases on it only working with the newer versions, basically forcing you to do a yearly upgrade if you want to play something new.

I thought one of the selling points of this was to avoid all the current fragmenting between all the different android devices. So much for that.


Well the article says it will remain backwards compatible, but we'll see how that works, considering that Android hasn't always managed that (and people programming to the lowest common denominator as far as features go.)

We'll also have to see how well Ouya keeps up with new versions of Android in general. Many big companies have had difficult times keeping up.
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#126 louiedog

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:32 PM

The biggest problem with Ouya is the people at the company speaking for it. "Everything will be free*!!!!", "We're going to tell you that we have plans to hopefully make yours obsolete even though we're months away from shipping the first batch!", and then of course all that bullshit about how gamers are sick of the big companies and Ouya is going to treat you right by giving you REAL games.

*free means demos, IAP, etc.

Something like this, which is cheap and already does some cool things even before games made specifically for it are released, speaks to a large part of its intended crowd on its own. Just about everything the company says seems designed to push them away, but I don't see it bringing in anyone new.

#127 Crunchewy

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:48 PM

Actually the part that I think kills it for me, is not that there will be yearly hardware updates, but that they will be using the Steam model and tie games to the user. If this means that only the purchaser can play the game (with achievements and such), well that's the ultimate deal killer right there. I have two kids. I'm not buying 3 unlocks so that they can play too. I will cancel my pre-order if that's how it's going to work. Hopefully it isn't, though.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:00 PM

Looks like new hardware every year. I have one on kickstarter pre-order, but now I'm like Fuck!

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I'm glad we have this information before the console actually releases. Cancelling my pre-order!

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:39 PM

The one thing that bugs me about the Ouya is the limited internal storage. Like the Wii U it's depending on us plugging in a USB HDD, which increases the size of the whole thing dramatically in this case. The HDD will be larger than the console. I wish it had SD card slot instead. Maybe you can use a flash drive, but Nintendo discourages that, and I imagine they'll discourage that for the Ouya too, but I'm not sure.


If they do allow flash drives, something like this could keep the footprint small:
http://www.amazon.co...5/dp/B00812F7O8

#130 oasisboy

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:41 PM

Actually the part that I think kills it for me, is not that there will be yearly hardware updates, but that they will be using the Steam model and tie games to the user. If this means that only the purchaser can play the game (with achievements and such), well that's the ultimate deal killer right there. I have two kids. I'm not buying 3 unlocks so that they can play too. I will cancel my pre-order if that's how it's going to work. Hopefully it isn't, though.


Can't you just share with your kids and buy only one console??
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#131 Kaiser499

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:42 PM

Just like an iPhone, a new one every year. That definitely put me off, I won't be getting one now.

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#132 oasisboy

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:45 PM

So what is the difference between Ouya and Steam Box?
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:46 PM

Looks like new hardware every year. I have one on kickstarter pre-order, but now I'm like Fuck!

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I had a feeling they would do this, so glad i waited and didnt order. As much as they can say its going to be backwards compatible, its the game devs that decide that, and they wont code for 7 different hardware versions. This just absolutely killed it for me. I already buy a new phone every year, im not buying a new ouya.

Way to shoot yourselves in the foot guys, who thought it would be a good idea to say "theres going to be an updated one next year" before the original one even went on sale...stupidity en masse.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:55 PM

Looks like new hardware every year. I have one on kickstarter pre-order, but now I'm like Fuck!

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Just heard. Now I'm pissed that I got one through kickstarter
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:59 PM

This thread is, straight up, exciting. I've gone through so many emotions reading it. If it accomplishs nothing else, the Ouya got people thinking.

#136 supershammy

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:54 PM

So what is the difference between Ouya and Steam Box?


Steam Box is a concept, and is not a product of any kind yet. Honestly though, if you know the name of the Steam Box, you can probably glean the potential differences on your own.

#137 z3razerviper

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:10 PM

Very bad thing to announce before the first console is even out.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:16 PM

Hahaha, oh Ouya.

And is Steam Box a thing or BYOB (build your own box)?

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:20 PM

Hahaha, oh Ouya.

And is Steam Box a thing or BYOB (build your own box)?


Steam Box is nothing. Steam Box doesn't exist. It is a concept that has been discussed in public and nothing more. One day, it will exist, but for now there is no reason to compare it to other things because it has no concrete features at all.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:45 PM

New console version every year? That's good news to cheap people right? That means you just wait n years before buying the oldest version for fraction of the cost. I have so many games in my backlog I am still playing some NES titles for the first time!
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:03 PM

Looks like new hardware every year. I have one on kickstarter pre-order, but now I'm like Fuck!

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Thought about buying one. But with this news i will just pass seems kinda silly to do that.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:12 PM

Wish they had a trade-in program, trade in your old Ouya and next year's model is half off. Even 30% off I might be able to swing. But this is discouraging news.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:40 PM

So wait, people will never buy an iphone because theres planned to be a new model in the foreseeable future? Seems to be a bit silly whining and canceling preorders on this.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:45 PM

Can't really compare a cell phone to a gaming console.

But yes, having a new iPhone every year is also stupid.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:51 PM

Can't really compare a cell phone to a gaming console.

But yes, having a new iPhone every year is also stupid.


Rofl, you most certainly can compare.

Nothing wrong with having a new iPhone every year. For somebody its always going to be their "first one".

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:45 AM

Rofl, you most certainly can compare.

Nothing wrong with having a new iPhone every year. For somebody its always going to be their "first one".


Not really, the phone is still going to be usable as a phone. The old ouya will have development dropped weeks/months after a new model comes out. No one will bother to develop for different hardware models plus android plus ios. It we VERY stupid to comment on this before your first console makes it to market, talk about counting your chickens before they hatch...


Also, phones vs ouya dont compare well.

#147 Doomstink

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:19 AM

Not really, the phone is still going to be usable as a phone. The old ouya will have development dropped weeks/months after a new model comes out. No one will bother to develop for different hardware models plus android plus ios. It we VERY stupid to comment on this before your first console makes it to market, talk about counting your chickens before they hatch...


Also, phones vs ouya dont compare well.


Most people developing for OUYA are simultaneously targeting Android phones which means they're (for the most part) already targeting devices that are 2-3 years old. The first iteration of OUYA will likely be supported for at least two or three years, just like iOS hardware.

I say this as someone who already has an OUYA dev kit and is working on a launch title for it. Devs want the most people possible to play and buy their games - writing off the first iteration of OUYA a week after the next comes out would be silly; especially since devs can enable/disable graphical effects on the fly based on the hardware.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:33 AM

Not really, the phone is still going to be usable as a phone. The old ouya will have development dropped weeks/months after a new model comes out. No one will bother to develop for different hardware models plus android plus ios. It we VERY stupid to comment on this before your first console makes it to market, talk about counting your chickens before they hatch...


Also, phones vs ouya dont compare well.


Behind Internet, Socia Media, Music and Games, making phone calls is the least used activity. So yes, phones and ouya do compare quite well. Hell can even throw in general game consoles in as well.

#149 Crunchewy

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:59 AM

Can't you just share with your kids and buy only one console??


If it's like steam, you can, but only if you share the account. You don't have your own achievements, friends lists and such. It sucks. I hope the OUYA is not going to be like that, but they mention using a Steam-like model.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 02:00 AM

There would be a huge revolt if Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft started to release a new console every year.