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#5251 Zmonkay

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:53 PM

god dammit, only want Grim but need something else for free shipping... hmmm, random 3DS preorder GO!

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:59 PM

That's an awful price for Blaster. These toys are selling for $22 at Target and Toys R US.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:07 PM

Yeah, glad I don't need/want him. Grim being 22 free shipping no tax is a no brainer. Plus forced my hand at getting around to preordering Project X Zone :D
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:07 PM

That's an awful price for Blaster. These toys are selling for $22 at Target and Toys R US.


It was $22.99 from Amazon, not a 3rd party.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:50 PM

Yeah foc blaster and Grimlock have been going in and out of stock for 22.99 the past week or so on amazon. When they sell out it's back to the 3rd party seller inflated prices.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:38 AM

$22.96, and that's the one.

You shouldn't have any problem finding it in the near future -- it's 3 Grimlocks to 1 Blaster. I have also seen Soundwave/Soundblaster at Target, so it looks like they'll be around.


Sweet...thanks. Missed it on Amazon last night...guess I'll have to keep a closer eye out.

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#5257 MrSneis

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:46 PM

Anyone know of upcoming deals like tru b1g1 half off?
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Posted 24 February 2013 - 05:19 AM

Went to TRU and picked up all four Kre-O Combiner sets, plus 10 of the 12 bags. I didn't recall that the 'extra' combiner members were sold as singles, and I didn't want to have to track them down later.

I passed on the blind bags earlier and only caved this time because of the combiner members and I heard that distribution is really spotty. The one box at this TRU had 10 of the 12, but I've heard others can have much fewer. I missed out on Insecticon and Bludgeon. I may try to catch them later, depending on how I feel after the ones I've got.

So far, I've opened Springer, Singe, Dirge, Hook, and Devastator. It's an improvement over the preview wave, but there's still some ways to go.

I think part of the problem is that the priorities are still screwed up. There are lots of parts, which adds value, but still little paint. Compared to Lego minifigures, Kre-O still doesn't feel finished. The minifigures that come in the large sets and don't have vehicle modes seem to be more elegant and less cheap. Tolerances are sometimes iffy, and some ideas -- like snapping treads on to the arms -- don't work well at all. Both with the minifigures and the combiners, it's often the case that handling them causes something to fall off. It's not like Lego is totally immune to this, but they're still much better at it.

Kre-O also seems to want to complete the look with parts, which look oversized for the figures. Springer does not look better with a grey brick on his chest. Singe looks stupid with a big clear red 'engine' or whatever that's supposed to be. They are also still obsessed with the over-the-neck shield pieces that hide the paltry paint they sprung for. I still can't for the life of me understand this. I shouldn't have to choose between seeing Springer's paint details and his helicopter blades. Same goes for Dirge. Amusingly, on the back of the single bags, Dirge's picture shows his chest art but he has his wings on. This is not possible given the parts in the bag. At least the paint budget is better this time -- only Singe has monochrome paint. The rest look much better than the preview wave.

Devastator is a mixed bag, too. For the money, it's a good value -- four figures plus extra parts. However, the parts are becoming a headache. All Kre-O minifigures come with parts, and if you display the robots, you've got parts with nowhere to go.

Devastator is cheaty in every mode -- build the robots and there are parts. Then there are parts just for Devastator. However, even Devastator doesn't use all the parts. I swear I'm going to lose something because there's nowhere to put all the parts.

The single figures come with display bricks, which is a good idea. I wish they were the single height bricks, though, because these are now too tall for the plastic storage boxes I use for minifigures. They also sprung for paint on all these blocks, but they all say 'Kre-O', as if there was any confusion on the matter. I'd rather this paint go on the figure. Or put the name of the character on the brick, like Lego does for its planet Star Wars sets. And, annoyingly, the combiners lack these bricks. Hook has one. None of the other Constructicons do. That's...weird.

Devastator is still pretty fun. I haven't yet determined if there's an alternate build that includes Hook. It's not included, that's for sure, which is a missed opportunity. It's big, scale wise, but still cute. Even though there are lots of cheaty parts, it's recognizably Devastator and made up of other minifigures, which is really cool. They also decided to emphasize poseability over transformation authenticity, and I kind of agree with this. I'd rather it be poseable than have a bricky, fragile mess.

I also like the individual figures. They're all different and they look pretty good, even with their stupid chest shields. They did spend some time and effort making each one unique -- some have painted treads on the legs, others have different colors. It's fun to have the teams all together.

So, overall, I'm happy with the combiners and looking forward to messing with the others. The individual bags are getting better, but I wish they'd concentrate a little more on the robots and less on the vehicles. The 'vehicles' and the 'transformations' just suck, and while it's something that Kre-O has that Lego doesn't, I'd rather see really good figures first and transformations later when they get more clever and comfortable with the size and its constraints. I don't think anyone is buying them for the vehicle modes, anyway.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 03:40 AM

Anyone in the Hampton, Va found a FoC Grimlock yet?

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Anyone in the Hampton, Va found a FoC Grimlock yet?


Check Wal-Mart. Every one I've been to this week has had both Grimlock and Blaster.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 02:05 PM

Went to the Super Wal-Mart and picked up FoC Kickback and Starscream; was on the fence on picking up BH Voyager Predaking. Was also going to pick-up FoC Sideswipe but he was cheaper on Amazon so I may just pick him up there ($16 each for Kickback and Starscream where on Amazon they're $25 each).

Didn't see Blaster or Grimlock so I was kind of sad. Hopefully by EOM I'll have pics up of my "new" bedroom i.e. the 32-year-old virgin chamber. hehe~

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#5262 doctordoom

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 04:38 PM

Went to the Super Wal-Mart and picked up FoC Kickback and Starscream; was on the fence on picking up BH Voyager Predaking. Was also going to pick-up FoC Sideswipe but he was cheaper on Amazon so I may just pick him up there ($16 each for Kickback and Starscream where on Amazon they're $25 each).

Didn't see Blaster or Grimlock so I was kind of sad. Hopefully by EOM I'll have pics up of my "new" bedroom i.e. the 32-year-old virgin chamber. hehe~


I was on the fence about Voyager Predaking as well. After seeing him in store I've decided to wait for the Supreme Predaking and Prime. Voyager Predaking looked... cheap... in a "the plastic looks thin" kind of knockoff way. IMO anyway.

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#5263 kell

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 03:30 AM

Yeah, my friend also regrets importing the MP Soundwave after hearing about the hasbro version on the horizon this year. Hopefully, I will be able to score one.


I imported for the first time this year (Soundwave, Red Alert, and Sideswipe) and I don't regret it. TRU exclusives are such a pain to come by in my recent experience and it keeps raising prices to the point where they are getting close to imports.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 03:32 AM

Forgot to mention yesterday, I know some of you were having trouble finding Grimlock, I found 3 at Target in Riverside off Arlington.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:27 AM

Found the last two Kre-O minifigs at Target, which was weird. This one also had plenty of Bludgeons and Insecticons.

Bludgeon is worth it for sheer WTF value, though I think I really hate the way they did treads (for all the figures, not just Bludgeon). Good idea, bad execution. Insecticon is fairly lame and bland.

The winners of this wave are the combiners (including the extra singles), Springer, Warpath, and Airachnid.

I was going to comment on the wave as a whole, but found myself repeating what I wrote about them last time. Lego does a lot more with paint and individual items, whereas Kreons feel awfully generic. The chest shields also have to go. I really think they need to concentrate on character design first.

At a different Target, spied the Wave 2 Beast Hunters Deluxes. Bulkhead has a Roadbuster vibe, but looks goony as a Deluxe. The Cyberverse version looks much nicer. Ripclaw at least looks marginally impressive for a Deluxe, but I'm just not interested.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 10:40 PM

Found BH wave 2 in western MD at Walmart. Smokescreen and Ripclaw rang up at $12.97 each.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 10:59 PM

Forgot to mention yesterday, I know some of you were having trouble finding Grimlock, I found 3 at Target in Riverside off Arlington.


Found 3 at my Target in Pico Rivera hadn't bought one since can't remember when but had to get Grimlock. I've seen Soundwave a couple of times but can't bring my self to buy him.

#5268 Zmonkay

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:32 PM

So torn on Grim. Love him (see my avatar for shit's sake) but he's so hollow and the tale just seems way out of proportion. Love the robot mode but I almost prefer the generations deluxe... Still a solid fig though. He's pretty easy to find around me though. Target and Walmart have had him the past handful of times I've been there. If anyone is desperate for one LMK and I can pick one up, but he should be out on shelves for a decent while longer so I wouldn't worry.

After much fiddling with new voyager Prime and Predaking... I've determined that Prime is surprisingly good and Predaking isn't the cluster I thought he would be. Both feel super super cheap, almost as bad as KO's, and desperately need paint apps, but I've just accepted that as par for the course now with the cost cutting.

Prime's an interesting mold at least, with cool Galaxy Convoy/Star Sabre homages. Predaking would be better with some ball joints at the wing base and stiffer, pinned wing folds, but is otherwise servicable.

Also got WfC Starscream who is ok, but with a few tweaks could have been pretty damned good. I still don't get that there isn't some sort of hatch to hide is bot head in jet mode.

Like Blandstalker I got Kreo Microchange Devy (and the rest of the wave, though haven't opened them) and I really really enjoy the devestator. The individual figs, like the microchange individual figs, are very hit or miss. I prefer to keep them like the Kreon's that come with the bigger sets: just the painted chest and no accessories. I really wish they all came with the cape one of them (forget which) came with though. Then you could add accessories to bot mode and still see the beautifully painted chests.

Still gotta find damned insecticon. Also never did see Airachnid, but given the terrible impressions of her I'm not too upset. Also wouldn't be surprised to see a "spikey" version before too long... sigh.
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 08:54 PM

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#5270 blandstalker

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 05:20 AM

[quote name='Zmonkay']So torn on Grim. Love him (see my avatar for shit's sake) but he's so hollow and the tale just seems way out of proportion. Love the robot mode but I almost prefer the generations deluxe... Still a solid fig though. [/QUOTE]

Yeah, I agree with you. I really like the robot mode -- substantial and tall, without significant kibble, and it feels pretty finished. While it could use maybe a bit more paint on the details, it is very well designed, colorful, and detailed. I love that the light up gimmick works well in both modes and adds to the figure.

But that hollow dinosaur and what the heck is up with that tail? I had to look at the instructions and the box to see if they were serious. It's not terrible, but boy is it a massive cheat.

I then really looked at the instructions and the box and it was just like being back in G1. That illustration of Grimlock on each looked way different from the final product. It gave me a throwback to Runabout and Runamuck, or others whose picture was vastly better than the actual product.

And it's a bit of a shame because Grimlock isn't bad. We've been subjected to far worse, and even though that tail is...odd, it looks reasonably good from most angles. I also find myself forgiving the WfC toys a little bit because they are Cybertronian, and it's not like they have to be a fixed thing.

[quote name='Zmonkay']After much fiddling with new voyager Prime and Predaking... I've determined that Prime is surprisingly good and Predaking isn't the cluster I thought he would be. [...] Prime's an interesting mold at least, with cool Galaxy Convoy/Star Sabre homages. [/QUOTE]

Interesting. I've been holding off, because I was just going to wash my hands of Beast Hunters completely, but I have to admit that Prime looks pretty good. I guess I'll pick it up on sale. It's a Prime; there will be oodles of them through next year.

[quote name='Zmonkay']Also got WfC Starscream who is ok, but with a few tweaks could have been pretty damned good. I still don't get that there isn't some sort of hatch to hide is bot head in jet mode.[/QUOTE]

Agree with this. It's not bad. I also quite like the weapon, and that they tried to give you multiple ways to use/mount it. Such an improvement over MechTech. I don't object to the head too much, but would it have killed them? Still, it's a pretty good Starscream, different from what we've been getting for him, but still Starscream-y and it's a fun toy to play with.

[quote name='Zmonkay']Like Blandstalker I got Kreo Microchange Devy (and the rest of the wave, though haven't opened them) and I really really enjoy the devestator. The individual figs, like the microchange individual figs, are very hit or miss.

Yeah, I think the combiners are where it's at for this wave. I've got Predaking assembled now, too, and it's good, too. Not wild about the generic beast heads (which all seem just a bit too big), but Predaking looks good and cute next to Devastator.

[quote name='Zmonkay']I prefer to keep them like the Kreon's that come with the bigger sets: just the painted chest and no accessories. I really wish they all came with the cape one of them (forget which) came with though. Then you could add accessories to bot mode and still see the beautifully painted chests.[/QUOTE]

This is the single stupidest thing they've done with the Kreons. Razorclaw has a beautiful lion's head painted on his chest -- seriously, it rivals anything Lego has done -- and the stupid shield completely covers it up. Aargh! When I get some time, I'm breaking out the dremel tool because you can see how much better they look here. Why can't Hasbro do that?

[quote name='Zmonkay']Still gotta find damned insecticon. Also never did see Airachnid, but given the terrible impressions of her I'm not too upset. Also wouldn't be surprised to see a "spikey" version before too long... sigh.[/QUOTE]

I think they're both worth getting. Neither is great. Both have limitations. But both are also interesting. I don't understand why I kind of like Insecticon, other than they just tried really hard to give it lots of cool stuff, even if it didn't all succeed. Airachnid is just disappointing because it's not nearly as cool as the show model. For a Deluxe sized toy, it's not a bad attempt, but the robot suffers from trying to get the vehicle to look good. However, I was much more disappointed by Knockout and Kup.

I only saw Airachnid once in stores. Once! I've at least seen Insecticon twice, though stores seem to be concentrating on Beast Hunters right now and not Generations.

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#5271 Zmonkay

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 01:25 PM

I understand the chest covers, at least on Devy, as they cover up the detail in combined mode to give uniform green "legs". But would have really cost extra to include those for that purpose and a couple "capes" for individual bot modes? I'm hesitent to dremel because then it throws off the uniformity of combined mode.
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 05:00 PM

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#5273 Ziv_Zulander

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:25 PM

Whoa!


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 04:15 PM

Just got shipping notice from Amazon for the Platinum edition Omega Surpreme. I didn't even realize it had a release date yet from them.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 06:57 PM

Just got shipping notice from Amazon for the Platinum edition Omega Surpreme. I didn't even realize it had a release date yet from them.


Same here! Expected delivery date of 3/14-3/18. I got my shelves up in my room so hopefully soon I'll be able to post some pics of my modest collection (have been collecting for about 3 years now).

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 06:09 PM

Just got my YotS Omega Supreme! Super sweet box, and the figure is fairly large (definitely bigger than Amazon's Unicron), but surprisingly light. Can't wait to put him on the shelf next to my other figures. Should have pics up by the weekend!

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:09 PM

FoC Blaster is in stock on TRU's site at the moment.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 12:41 AM

ordered FoC kickback from amazon and I got the toy with the card folded back and not sealed all the way....WTF. Can't even get a replacement since their sold out

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:53 PM

Go to hasbrorewards.com and print out some transformers coupons.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:47 PM

Go to hasbrorewards.com and print out some transformers coupons.


Just to save people the time, if you don't like the Beast Hunters stuff then don't bother looking through the Hasbro coupons. If you do like BH, then there's a $3 off $10 for single BH toy purchase and $5 off the BH Optimus Kre-O set.

Oh, there's also a $3 off single Rescue Heroes toy for those of you who like those.





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