The Mitchell Report

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Somsone just sent me this list - we will know soon enough how accurate it is...

Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton Bradley, David Bell,
Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozzie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton
Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Schoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez,Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, Jason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood
 
I saw a similar list floating around earlier today and it seems plausible. Shaq-fuing Brewers just gave Gag-ne a ton of money...I really hope he's not on the list. Well we'll find out in 10 minutes I suppose!
 
Say bye-bye to Clemens' legacy if this is legit!


I'm actually kind of surprised that Trot Nixon and Varitek are on the list...I always thought they were good guys.
 
many didn't think that there would be redsox in the list, due to the fact mitchell is a consultant to the redsox. He listed quite a few players, some who have spent the entire career with boston (trot nixon, jason varitek) and some who spent some time here (eric gagne, julian tavares, will cordero, dante bichette, jose canseco, paxton crawford, johnny damon (who imo looks like he started juicing since joining the yanks as his forearms have about 2x in size since he was in boston)carl everett, nomar, mo vaugh, jose offerman, jeremy giambi, rich garces and Rafaeil Bettancourt who was a sox minor league prospect, i believe a ss
 
does the list really do anything...there is no possible punishments given, no one was forced to testify or give names...a lot of the info gathered were from players that said " I think so and so took". It is useless, and imo will be talked about a shitload for a week and then forgotten about.
 
[quote name='ryanbph']does the list really do anything...there is no possible punishments given, no one was forced to testify or give names...a lot of the info gathered were from players that said " I think so and so took". It is useless, and imo will be talked about a shitload for a week and then forgotten about.[/quote]

If it comfirms that they used steroids then it won't be forgtten about. They can't do anything to the players but it will hurt their legacy. It just makes the entire league look bad and will hurt the players named.
 
It will hurt the players named but without due process (or any real proof other than hearsay) none of it really means anything. I mean, it wouldn't shock me if those players did steroids but I kind of assume everyone does them anyway. At the end of the day I'm still going to be rooting for my favorite laundry.
 
A little easier on the eyes.

Brady Anderson
Manny Alexander
Rick Ankiel
Jeff Bagwell
Barry Bonds
Aaron Boone
Rafaeil Bettancourt
Bret Boone
Milton Bradley
David Bell
Dante Bichette
Albert Belle
Paul Byrd
Wil Cordero
Ken Caminiti
Mike Cameron
Ramon Castro
Jose Canseco
Ozzie Canseco
Roger Clemens
Paxton Crawford
Wilson Delgado
Lenny Dykstra
Johnny Damon
Carl Everett
Kyle Farnsoworth
Ryan Franklin
Troy Glaus
Rich Garces
Jason Grimsley
Troy Glaus
Juan Gonzalez
Eric Gagne
Nomar Garciaparra
Jason Giambi
Jeremy Giambi
Jose Guillen
Jay Gibbons
Juan Gonzalez
Clay Hensley
Jerry Hairston
Felix Heredia, Jr.
Darren Holmes
Wally Joyner
Darryl Kile
Matt Lawton
Raul Mondesi
Mark McGwire
Guillermo Mota
Robert Machado
Damian Moss
Abraham Nunez
Trot Nixon
Jose Offerman
Andy Pettitte
Mark Prior
Neifi Perez
Rafael Palmiero
Albert Pujols
Brian Roberts
Juan Rincon
John Rocker
Pudge Rodriguez
Sammy Sosa
Scott Schoenweiis
David Segui
Alex Sanchez
Gary Sheffield
Miguel Tejada
Julian Tavarez
Fernando Tatis
Maurice Vaughn
Jason Varitek
Ismael Valdez
Matt Williams
Kerry Wood
 
[quote name='vherub']is there a link to the actual report? si has it, but it is getting hammered.[/quote]

But, But, sports radio says no one cares about baseball anymore ;)
 
The list is absolutely false. There is no mention of ARod, Varitek, Damon, Nomar, Tavarez, TROT Nixon (there is a section on Otis Nixon), Mota (who is only named as background for the Lo Duca trade), Prior, Wood, or Bagwell, to name those who I searched.
 
UPDATED - 2:38
Players who are named in the report that i've seen:
Bonds
Clemens
Pettite
Gagne
Sheffield
Tejada
Paul Lo Duca
Both Giambis
Mo Vaughn
Fernando Vina
Kevin Brown
Benito Santiago
Bobby Estella
Jerry Harrison Jr
Randy Velarde
Lenny Dykstra
David Segui
Larry Bigbie
Brian Roberts
Jack Cust
Tim Laker
Josias Manzanillo
Todd Hundley
Mark Carreon
Hal Morris
Matt Franco
Rondell White
Chuck Knoblauch
Jason Grimsley
Gregg Zaun
David Justice
F.P. Santangelo
Glenallen Hill
Danny Neagle
Ryan Franklin
Chris Donnels
Todd Williams
Phil Hiatt
Todd Pratt
Kevin Young
Mike Lansing
Cody McKay
Kent Mercker
Adam Piatt
Matt Herges
Brendan Donnelly
Chad Allen
Paul Byrd
Jose Canseco
Rick Ankiel
David Bell
Jay Gibbons
Troy Glaus
Jose Guillen
John Rocker
Scott Shoenweis
Matt Williams
Steve Woodard
Gary Matthews Jr.
There are some scrubs I skipped over.
 
[quote name='javeryh']I bet Mo Vaughn was sitting at home thinking "Whew! I'm glad I wasn't on there..."[/quote]
lol yeah, along with Fernando Vina, Kevin Brown, and Rondell White. May be a few others on there too. Some are really hard to read.

Edit
Larry Bigbie too. But it looks like he was just paying for "dues".
 
[quote name='vherub']vaughn is on there, maurice = mo[/quote]

I know... I was being sarcastic...

How could they name Lenny Dykstra and NOT Darren Daulton?
 
So Roger Clemens started taking steroids with Toronto, Andy Pettitte in 02, Mo Vaughn in 01, Miguel Tejada in 03, Brian Roberts, Chuck Knoblauch, Jerry Hairston, Paul Lo Duca, Kevin Brown, Eric Gagne started ordering them through Lo Duca in 03, Troy Glaus, Paul Byrd...

Varitek NOT listed.

Dan Duquette is finally vindicated! Clemens was done until he started taking steroids. Mo Vaughn started taking them with the Angels apparently.
 
[quote name='mrlokievil']If it comfirms that they used steroids then it won't be forgtten about. They can't do anything to the players but it will hurt their legacy. It just makes the entire league look bad and will hurt the players named.[/QUOTE]

It's really hard to make the joke that is basebore look any worse. That sport at this point in time is a turd ready to be flushed.

That said, wait until the NFL has it's d-day.
 
[quote name='monkeydeew']please put a * on all of clemens hall of fame baseballs[/quote]

Baseball records will never have the same prestige. I'll never really look at them the same way regardless of who owns them.
 
[quote name='Blitz']It's really hard to make the joke that is basebore look any worse. That sport at this point in time is a turd ready to be flushed.

That said, wait until the NFL has it's d-day.[/quote]

The drug problem in the NFL is nothing compared to the malpractice lawsuits that will appear once the whole post-concussion crap hits the fan
 
boy, jose conseco must feel pretty good right now.

I think the list of players will do nothing to baseball but dam it will screw their reputations. LoDuca apparently reffered the likes of Brown and Gagne to Radomski.
 
I still find it flawed, it's one guy just like Canseco, saying "I injected him, and he took this and that", while I don't disagree with it, it's just hard without visual evidence, or papers about players buying the HGH.
 
[quote name='javeryh']I know... I was being sarcastic...

How could they name Lenny Dykstra and NOT Darren Daulton?[/QUOTE]



woah just because Nailz was doin it doesnt mean Dutch was juicing too.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']woah just because Nailz was doin it doesnt mean Dutch was juicing too.[/quote]

Since it's all just speculation and hearsay I just think Dutch should be in there - he fits the description: HUGE dude who went cuckoo bananas and had a few great years surrounded by a lot of mediocre ones.

I find it interesting that a lot of the players named have had severe injury problems (like Mo Vaughn), went crazy (John Rocker) or ended up dead (like Kile and Caminiti).
 
I think that everyody from this era who is confirmed with steroids should keep their statistics but they have a whole diffrent section in the hof from every other player
chuck knoblauch wtf who would have ever guessed
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']boy, jose conseco must feel pretty good right now.

I think the list of players will do nothing to baseball but dam it will screw their reputations. LoDuca apparently reffered the likes of Brown and Gagne to Radomski.[/quote]

So should Palmeiro to an extent.

Remember when he said he injected Miguel Tejada and Tejada said is was B vitamins or some crap?
 
I agree with that guile. Remember how he got fried after that?

Also I know he was in Jose's book, but there are a lot of flaws in that book, and confirmation by a secondary source that is legit has to occur before I believe it. Anyone who read that book knows it is a horrible read and ESPN had a whole fact sheet of all the lies in it.
 
Palmeiro never said he injected Tejada. He said that he got some supposed B12 from Tejada and that was why he tested positive. So maybe Palmeiro got blasted for no reason.
 
Most of the names are hearsay and speculation, with some factual evidence.

Note that there isn't even any speculation about McGwire. Can we get this man's HOF bust ready already?
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']Palmeiro never said he injected Tejada. He said that he got some supposed B12 from Tejada and that was why he tested positive. So maybe Palmeiro got blasted for no reason.[/quote]

My bad for messing that up.
 
I heard this on WTOP news radio on my work today...

All I can say is wow, just wow....

Just wondering about all those kids who collect baseball cards and thinks these guys are their heroes only to find out they are fakes...
 
[quote name='javeryh']Since it's all just speculation and hearsay I just think Dutch should be in there - he fits the description: HUGE dude who went cuckoo bananas and had a few great years surrounded by a lot of mediocre ones. [/QUOTE]


you think hes cuckoo, but when the mayan calender ends, and with it the world, you will be wishing you listened to Dutch
 
Darren Daulton = Jake Taylor?

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i wonder what this list will really accomplish. are they goign to fire or fine these people? will they take the time to test everyone in all sports no tjust baseball to see if theyre abusing and using performance enhancers? could any of these people have been using things that at one point werent illegal and now are? it all just comes off like a huge smoke screen to divert attention from other things because we all know in the end nobody will do anything about it. its the biggest worst kept secret.

we all know plenty of athletes use them the competition for money and fame is too big not too. i say if you want to use them go ahead but youd better be ready to deal with the consequences out fo your own pocket. if they up and fire everyone who has or is using sports would cease all operations except for maybe professional videogaming or pig pong.
 
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