M. Night is back. Devil doesn't suck.

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Just got back from a midnight screening. Loved The Sixth Sense, liked Unbreakable, Signs was OK, The Village, Lady in the Water, and The Happening were all torture. I didn't think he had another great one in him but shockingly, apparently he did.
 
You can't really give him credit for it when he didn't direct or even write the screenplay. You can credit him with finding a way to shit up that Avatar franchise, though.
 
[quote name='moon_knight']I believe he only wrote the story, not the screenplay and he didn't direct the movie.[/QUOTE]

That's probably to the benefit of the movie. I often suspected that one of the reasons his movies were suffering was because he wanted to do everything with them - write, direct, produce, act, etc. Probably due to his early success, they became more and more self-indulgent. It's the George Lucas Factor. Perhaps him ceding some control of the movies to others will give him a much needed bump in them.
 
Yeah, Night didn't have much to do with this movie.

Not that it matters, Devil wasn't screened for critics, so it's probably going to suck.
 
Why would the Devil waste his time with a bunch of people in an elevator, when he could've brought his posse of demons to posses their bodies? Unless that's what he wants us to think. Damn you MNS.
 
[quote name='moon_knight']I believe he only wrote the story, not the screenplay and he didn't direct the movie.[/QUOTE]

Bingo, but as that I'm not wasting my money on seeing this in a theatre. If it at all, it's going to be a rental, a free one at that, or taken from the library. Not paying to see his crap, ever.

[quote name='Cantatus']That's probably to the benefit of the movie. I often suspected that one of the reasons his movies were suffering was because he wanted to do everything with them - write, direct, produce, act, etc. Probably due to his early success, they became more and more self-indulgent. It's the George Lucas Factor. Perhaps him ceding some control of the movies to others will give him a much needed bump in them.[/QUOTE]

To a certain extent/degree, yes, but on the other George Lucas is/was an excellent director who made several films to his name (THX 1138, American Grafitti). It's only been in recent times where he's somewhat tarnished his name (Episode 3 was good). On the other hand, M. Night hit the lottery with The Sixth Sense, made a couple of somewhat (questionable) decent flicks in Signs and Unbreakable, and then made nothing but shit since.
 
Can we get a plot spoiler? What's the twist? I have no intention of seeing it but I want to know if this twist is as silly as his last few have been.
 
Here is the movie spoiled for you if you don't want to see it.

Basically five people get trapped in an elevator in building in downtown Philly. The power goes out every once in awhile and they slowly start to die one by one in pretty gruesome ways. Obviously, everyone thinks it's somebody different and it leads to everyone turning on each other. One of the security guards watching on the security cameras thinks it's the devil because of story his mother told him when he was a kid. When there is a suicide (which there was that morning in the same building), the devil will take over the body of a person nearby and go after the souls of certain people. That's the setup.

First time the lights go out, the hot girl gets "bitten" on her back. Everyone sort of thinks it's the tall, goofy dude. Next time the lights go out, the tall goofy, dude gets a piece of glass in his throat. Not him. Next time the lights go out, the older lady is hung from the elevator ceiling with a cord. Not her. Next time the lights go out, the big black dude gets his head spun 180 degrees. Not him. The last dude and the girl both think it's each other, so they have a stand-off of sorts, both holding a piece of glass at each other. Lights go out again, and the guy stabs the girl. When the lights come on and he sees what he's done, he is remorseful and scared. He's on the ground holding her while she's bleeding to death when the fucking old lady gets up and starts talking to him in a creepy, old lady devil voice. Her eyes are pitch black and she is fucking freaky (it's Doug's mom from King of Queens haha). She was after his soul the entire time because 5 years ago he was involved in a hit and run in which he killed a mother and her son. He fled the scene and just left a note saying "I'm so sorry".

At the same time all of this shit is going down in the elevator, the cops are watching the security camera footage while trying to find a way into the elevator. They are trying to figure out who all the people in the elevator are and who the killer is. Overall, the ending got me pretty good.
 
[quote name='Tony208']Twist Ending:
Devil sucks

do you see what I did there[/QUOTE]

Wouldn't a more unexpected twist be if the movie didn't suck?
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers']To a certain extent/degree, yes, but on the other George Lucas is/was an excellent director who made several films to his name (THX 1138, American Grafitti). It's only been in recent times where he's somewhat tarnished his name (Episode 3 was good). On the other hand, M. Night hit the lottery with The Sixth Sense, made a couple of somewhat (questionable) decent flicks in Signs and Unbreakable, and then made nothing but shit since.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't deny George Lucas is a good director. However, there is a certain, noticeable weakness in his movies when he tries to do everything, especially when it comes to writing a screenplay by himself.
 
[quote name='moon_knight']I believe he only wrote the story, not the screenplay and he didn't direct the movie.[/QUOTE]

Correct. He wrote the story but did not do the screenplay nor did he direct it.

If you looked at most of the advertising material it says m night in big letters preceeded by "produced by". I think he is just wanting his name on something, anything that he is involved with in hopes of getting his name back with the public because everyone is sick of his stuff. He is promoting himself more than the movie by putting his name on it.

Im sure if all he did was bring in donuts and coffee for the crew the movie poster would say "catered by M night shaymalan"
 
[quote name='n4styn4t3']Here is the movie spoiled for you if you don't want to see it.

Basically five people get trapped in an elevator in building in downtown Philly. The power goes out every once in awhile and they slowly start to die one by one in pretty gruesome ways. Obviously, everyone thinks it's somebody different and it leads to everyone turning on each other. One of the security guards watching on the security cameras thinks it's the devil because of story his mother told him when he was a kid. When there is a suicide (which there was that morning in the same building), the devil will take over the body of a person nearby and go after the souls of certain people. That's the setup.

First time the lights go out, the hot girl gets "bitten" on her back. Everyone sort of thinks it's the tall, goofy dude. Next time the lights go out, the tall goofy, dude gets a piece of glass in his throat. Not him. Next time the lights go out, the older lady is hung from the elevator ceiling with a cord. Not her. Next time the lights go out, the big black dude gets his head spun 180 degrees. Not him. The last dude and the girl both think it's each other, so they have a stand-off of sorts, both holding a piece of glass at each other. Lights go out again, and the guy stabs the girl. When the lights come on and he sees what he's done, he is remorseful and scared. He's on the ground holding her while she's bleeding to death when the fucking old lady gets up and starts talking to him in a creepy, old lady devil voice. Her eyes are pitch black and she is fucking freaky (it's Doug's mom from King of Queens haha). She was after his soul the entire time because 5 years ago he was involved in a hit and run in which he killed a mother and her son. He fled the scene and just left a note saying "I'm so sorry".

At the same time all of this shit is going down in the elevator, the cops are watching the security camera footage while trying to find a way into the elevator. They are trying to figure out who all the people in the elevator are and who the killer is. Overall, the ending got me pretty good.
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Sounds lame, but what's with that thing in the trailer when the dude turns on his lighter?

Also, sometimes producing a movie isn't much of an involvement. They can credit somebody with being a producer if they show them a rough cut and they say "I like it."
 
[quote name='n4styn4t3']He wrote and produced it. I'd say that's a pretty big involvement.[/QUOTE]

Well he is a great writer, he comes up with good ideas. Its his screenplays an end product that suck. And he is one of like 9 producers so saying he produced it doesnt mean shit. Besides producers sometimes have small parts to play in the product but in the end its very minimal and doesnt effect the overall end product much.
 
I am on a personal quest to boycott anything M. Night has any involvement in. If everyone else would follow suit we could get him to stop making movies. If his percentage of good to bad movies was my grades in college i'd be kicked out.
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers']To a certain extent/degree, yes, but on the other George Lucas is/was an excellent director who made several films to his name (THX 1138, American Grafitti). It's only been in recent times where he's somewhat tarnished his name (Episode 3 was good).[/QUOTE]

Episode 3 was NOT good. It was just better than the two shitty movies that preceded it.
 
[quote name='NeoFrank1']Episode 3 was NOT good. It was just better than the two shitty movies that preceded it.[/QUOTE]

It's alright. I was all ready to write off Christensen as a horrible actor, but he moaned like a bitch pretty good without those limbs.
 
signs was an amazing movie until you see how cheesy the aliens look. up until that point i was actualy scared some extent especially during that bday party scene that shit was awesome. unbreakabe and 6th sense are good to. its just his addiction with twists that make his movies one trick ponies. once you see them theres no point in watching again.

theres been alot of demon/devil/posession fims of late. guess thats the new it franchise.
 
Sixth Sense was good until I realized he ripped off the twist from an episode of Nickelodeon's "Are You Afraid of the Dark?" Plus admitted to it too. That and he's the only person ever to make a movie that I walked out of (Airbender) and so with that I hope all his movies bomb and he literally gets killed on the streets. Yes, I hated Airbender THAT MUCH.
 
[quote name='bardockkun']Sixth Sense was good until I realized he ripped off the twist from an episode of Nickelodeon's "Are You Afraid of the Dark?" Plus admitted to it too. .[/QUOTE]


lmao wow thats pretty damn sad guess he must have gotten some advice from tarantino. are you afraid of the dark was a damn good tv series.
 
When I went to go see Scott Pilgrim, the devil was one of the previews.

After 20 or 30 seconds of the preview, I kept thinking "this has got to me a M. Night Shamalan movie". The preview got towards its end, and when his name came up, half the theater started to laugh.

There were many an utterance of "What a Tweest".
 
Having the M. Night tag on a movie is the kiss of death at this point of his career. His reputation as both a director and screenwriter starting taking a nosedive at the ending of Signs then exploded in an epic fashion in trainwreck that was The Last Airbender.

Shyamalan's name is recognizable, but in a Uwe Boll "Oh shit, it's this asshat again..." sort of recognition that nobody really wants unless you're Uwe Boll.
 
[quote name='ced']Having the M. Night tag on a movie is the kiss of death at this point of his career. His reputation as both a director and screenwriter starting taking a nosedive at the ending of Signs then exploded in an epic fashion in trainwreck that was The Last Airbender.

Shyamalan's name is recognizable, but in a Uwe Boll "Oh shit, it's this asshat again..." sort of recognition that nobody really wants unless you're Uwe Boll.[/QUOTE]


shamylan is bad but nobody will ever be as horrible as uwe boll. you know that asshole is doing a movie about auschwitz? looks like its suposed to be in the vein of torture porn which of all the things to do a torture porn flick on thats just completly wrong.
 
[quote name='Viol8tor']Ive never seen Unbreakable. Is it better or as good as the 6 sense and signs?[/QUOTE]

I actually liked it better than both.
 
[quote name='n4styn4t3']Here is the movie spoiled for you if you don't want to see it.

Basically five people get trapped in an elevator in building in downtown Philly. The power goes out every once in awhile and they slowly start to die one by one in pretty gruesome ways. Obviously, everyone thinks it's somebody different and it leads to everyone turning on each other. One of the security guards watching on the security cameras thinks it's the devil because of story his mother told him when he was a kid. When there is a suicide (which there was that morning in the same building), the devil will take over the body of a person nearby and go after the souls of certain people. That's the setup.

First time the lights go out, the hot girl gets "bitten" on her back. Everyone sort of thinks it's the tall, goofy dude. Next time the lights go out, the tall goofy, dude gets a piece of glass in his throat. Not him. Next time the lights go out, the older lady is hung from the elevator ceiling with a cord. Not her. Next time the lights go out, the big black dude gets his head spun 180 degrees. Not him. The last dude and the girl both think it's each other, so they have a stand-off of sorts, both holding a piece of glass at each other. Lights go out again, and the guy stabs the girl. When the lights come on and he sees what he's done, he is remorseful and scared. He's on the ground holding her while she's bleeding to death when the fucking old lady gets up and starts talking to him in a creepy, old lady devil voice. Her eyes are pitch black and she is fucking freaky (it's Doug's mom from King of Queens haha). She was after his soul the entire time because 5 years ago he was involved in a hit and run in which he killed a mother and her son. He fled the scene and just left a note saying "I'm so sorry".

At the same time all of this shit is going down in the elevator, the cops are watching the security camera footage while trying to find a way into the elevator. They are trying to figure out who all the people in the elevator are and who the killer is. Overall, the ending got me pretty good.
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That sounds fucking stupid. Thank you for posting spoilers, I was looking for them.
 
Reading through this makes me want to watch the Sixth Sense again. Good thing its available for streaming on netflix. I know what I'm doing tonight!
 
[quote name='ced']Having the M. Night tag on a movie is the kiss of death at this point of his career. His reputation as both a director and screenwriter starting taking a nosedive at the ending of Signs then exploded in an epic fashion in trainwreck that was The Last Airbender.

Shyamalan's name is recognizable, but in a Uwe Boll "Oh shit, it's this asshat again..." sort of recognition that nobody really wants unless you're Uwe Boll.[/QUOTE]

I thought his reputation exploded after The Village. To this day I can't believe I spent money on that movie, and then consequently as though forced, obligated, no tied to the chair, sat through the entirety of the movie even though I knew what the twist was from the basically the get go. I think I'd rather sit through a Uwe Boll movie than a M. Knight Sham movie. At least with Uwe Boll you know what you're getting and can get some laughs out of it. M. Knight's films are basically annoying pestering crap that are simply insipid.
 
[quote name='lokizz']shamylan is bad but nobody will ever be as horrible as uwe boll. you know that asshole is doing a movie about auschwitz? looks like its suposed to be in the vein of torture porn which of all the things to do a torture porn flick on thats just completly wrong.[/QUOTE]

Eh, it's been done to death on the Rape of Nanking (which was arguably a worse atrocity).

As for Devil, thank you for those spoilers. I can now rest easy I avoided a shitty shitty movie.
 
Thanks for the spoilers. It's great to get to the "twist" without having to sit through 2+ hours of torture.

At least with an Uwe Boll movie it's almost a complete consensus that you'll get a few laughs. With M. Night there's this overwhelming pressure from the hardcore fans to give him another chance and when your friends drag you to some absolute horrifically bad film you have to deal with them trying to justify the "suck" on the way home.

For the record I have enjoyed a few films of M. Night's but even when regarding Sixth Sense I don't find his twists and concepts to be genius. Some people just don't have it in them to succeed more than once or twice.

As for Devil, I was never interested. The best horror (for me) is the type that takes place in space. That overwhelming sense of no escape is the best. Being stuck in an enclosed elevator? It gets the confinement right but seriously, where is this movie supposed to go?
 
[quote name='bardockkun']Sixth Sense was good until I realized he ripped off the twist from an episode of Nickelodeon's "Are You Afraid of the Dark?" Plus admitted to it too. That and he's the only person ever to make a movie that I walked out of (Airbender) and so with that I hope all his movies bomb and he literally gets killed on the streets. Yes, I hated Airbender THAT MUCH.[/QUOTE]

Actually before the episode of "Are You Afraid of the Dark?" was the Goosebumps novel, The Ghost Next Door.

Edit-Scratch that, according to the IMDB link someone posted the AYAOTD episode was from 1991 and The Ghost Next Door was from 1993.
[quote name='ced']Having the M. Night tag on a movie is the kiss of death at this point of his career. His reputation as both a director and screenwriter starting taking a nosedive at the ending of Signs then exploded in an epic fashion in trainwreck that was The Last Airbender.

Shyamalan's name is recognizable, but in a Uwe Boll "Oh shit, it's this asshat again..." sort of recognition that nobody really wants unless you're Uwe Boll.[/QUOTE]

Same thing happened at the theater I was at for the Inception premiere. The screen showed "from M. Night..." and there was the slightest pause then the entire theater burst out laughing.

[quote name='ced']Having the M. Night tag on a movie is the kiss of death at this point of his career. His reputation as both a director and screenwriter starting taking a nosedive at the ending of Signs then exploded in an epic fashion in trainwreck that was The Last Airbender.

Shyamalan's name is recognizable, but in a Uwe Boll "Oh shit, it's this asshat again..." sort of recognition that nobody really wants unless you're Uwe Boll.[/QUOTE]
I have a feeling if Devil tanks (which I think it will going up against The Town and Easy A) this will be the last we see of M. Night for a while. Then again, I thought the same thing after The Happening but then came The Last Airbender and Devil.
 
[quote name='ced']Having the M. Night tag on a movie is the kiss of death at this point of his career. His reputation as both a director and screenwriter starting taking a nosedive at the ending of Signs then exploded in an epic fashion in trainwreck that was The Last Airbender.

Shyamalan's name is recognizable, but in a Uwe Boll "Oh shit, it's this asshat again..." sort of recognition that nobody really wants unless you're Uwe Boll.[/QUOTE]

Same thing happened at the theater I was at for the Inception premiere. The screen showed "from M. Night..." and there was the slightest pause then the entire theater burst out laughing.
 
For those who saw the film, how would you rank this film compared to his others? It can't be worse than rock bottom Airbender so maybe more like The Village mediocrity?
 
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