PlayStation 4 - General Discussion Thread

TimboSliceGB said:
maybe the people should keep it to them selfs. why does a game website need two pages of people telling someone if they speak english? That is my main point in all this sadly people on internet likes to be bullies and act like children.
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im just saying, turning around and calling people names doesn't make you look any better. Just turn the other cheek.

 
TimboSliceGB said:
grow the fuck up. in all honesty im really getting to the point if these personal attacks on me don't stop i will get a mod involved.
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I wish you would get a mod involved and get yourself banned... It would be so much nicer to discuss Playstation 4 in the Playstation 4 Thread instead of having to deal with your trolling.

http://youtu.be/_fSft3JCM78

It seems like the leaks were pretty spot on. PS4 gets Dead Nation: Apocalypse Edition. PS3 gets Tomb Raider, Thomas was Alone and Lone Survivor: Director's Cut. The PSV is getting Unit 13 and Monster Hunter: Freedom Unite.

Kind of bad timing on Tomb Raider with the PS4 version coming out a few weeks ago.

http://youtu.be/K1BoJnUN8GE

I love these N games. N++ seems destined to PS+ to me (I'm guessing May or June), but we'll see.

http://youtu.be/JhtU_sjQzjM

Soo cool. The game also went gold on 2/25.

http://youtu.be/PEg6Pz2VkHk

A trailer for the March PS+ game. I'm not sure, but I think this may be the first game to actually use the Playstation App.

http://youtu.be/Z9DE7XLe6Q8

 
KillerRamen said:
I wish you would get a mod involved and get yourself banned... It would be so much nicer to discuss Playstation 4 in the Playstation 4 Thread instead of having to deal with your trolling.
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sorry to say but you sir don't know the meaning of trolling and if you did you would know your ps buddies do most of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

every single person on this thread has trolled not just me. i do nothing but give my opinions on topics here and get shit on for them. I guess you dont mind that your ps buddies go on for two pages about someones bad grammer.

 
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Stellar Inertia said:
Thats the feeling I get from Thief. Its annoying not being seen by people. And the lightning periodically frightens me from moving. I play stealthily as in I dont let a single person see me the entire game. That adds a challenge.

Overall I can't recommend the game or criticize it just yet. By Sunday or Monday I'm pretty sure Ill have beat the game or at least made it pretty far. If you haven't played by then I can tell you what I think more in depth.
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So I've been playing it awhile tonight and completed the Prologue and Chapter 1. The Dishonored comparison so far is spot-on, although doesn't seem as hard. It's definitely worth a play-through but feels more like a PS3 game than a PS4. Seems like maybe it wasn't intended for the 4 but they saw the opportunity with the lack of quality titles available so far.

March 21 can't get here quick enough!

 
TimboSliceGB said:
sorry to say but you sir don't know the meaning of trolling and if you did you would know your ps buddies do most of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

every single person on this thread has trolled not just me. i do nothing but give my opinions on topics here and get shit on for them. I guess you dont mind that your ps buddies go on for two pages about someones bad grammer.
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If you bothered to read the link you posted, you may realize just how close to trolling you really are.

I mean, jesus, the very fact you never address the grammar thing and continually dodge any and all questions could turn a two page topic about your grammar into 5 posts instead. Then you whine about it, it comes up in a handful of other threads by other people, and you call them trolls too. All the while ignoring the one common factor is not PS fanboys, but you.

If you want criticism to stop and instead actual conversations, perhaps take a miniscule amount of effort to make intelligible sentences instead of what appears to be that of ramblings of a third grader intent on not using punctuation, proper spelling, or any coherant means of stating a point.

We all dont mind discussing video games with you Timbo, but fuck its hard to do that when we cant understand a damn thing you post.
 
Not to beat a dead horse to death but he has already been called out on the Xbox One thread about this issue too.

 
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Sony should have pixel junk monsters made like Plants vs Zombies.  My thing is that for every game that's not on a PS4, Sony should have a similar game made from one of their devs, or from another studio.  Who needs Titanfall...  ArmoredCore... with a great Multiplayer could be awesome.  New gen means a lot of games can get reboots, but the games need to be done right the first time.  

 
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/gchq-ide ... ol/0128871

GCHQ identified Kinect as possible snooping tool; Microsoft denies all knowledge

Ben Parfitt by Ben Parfitt 
Friday, February 28th 2014 at 12:29PM GMT

GCHQ identified Kinect as possible snooping tool; Microsoft denies all knowledge
Xbox 360’s Kinect camera was identified by British spy agency GCHQ as a possible tool for snooping on the public.

As part of new documents revealing that webcam images of Yahoo users have been captured by governments, The Guardian also reveals that one of GCHQ’s presentations “discusses with interest the potential and capabilities of the Xbox 360's Kinect camera, saying it generated ‘fairly normal webcam traffic’ and was being evaluated as part of a wider program”.

The plans were part of a surveillance program entitled Optic Nerve that worked to capture imagery of internet users via in-built hardware camera tech.

It is not yet known whether GCHQ actually recorded and stored images captured via Kinect

The revelation is a nightmare for Microsoft, which has already had to fight against the security backlash that erupted when it transpired that Xbox One would ship with a new always-on Kinect camera.

“Microsoft has never heard of this program," a spokesperson told MCV. “However, we’re concerned about any reports of governments surreptitiously collecting private customer data. That’s why in December we initiated a broad effort to expand encryption across our services and are advocating for legal reforms.”

 
8bitArtist said:
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/gchq-ide ... ol/0128871

GCHQ identified Kinect as possible snooping tool; Microsoft denies all knowledge

Ben Parfitt by Ben Parfitt
Friday, February 28th 2014 at 12:29PM GMT

GCHQ identified Kinect as possible snooping tool; Microsoft denies all knowledge
Xbox 360’s Kinect camera was identified by British spy agency GCHQ as a possible tool for snooping on the public.

As part of new documents revealing that webcam images of Yahoo users have been captured by governments, The Guardian also reveals that one of GCHQ’s presentations “discusses with interest the potential and capabilities of the Xbox 360's Kinect camera, saying it generated ‘fairly normal webcam traffic’ and was being evaluated as part of a wider program”.

The plans were part of a surveillance program entitled Optic Nerve that worked to capture imagery of internet users via in-built hardware camera tech.

It is not yet known whether GCHQ actually recorded and stored images captured via Kinect

The revelation is a nightmare for Microsoft, which has already had to fight against the security backlash that erupted when it transpired that Xbox One would ship with a new always-on Kinect camera.

“Microsoft has never heard of this program," a spokesperson told MCV. “However, we’re concerned about any reports of governments surreptitiously collecting private customer data. That’s why in December we initiated a broad effort to expand encryption across our services and are advocating for legal reforms.”
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Legit issue that exists with all devices that have cameras on them but this has to be one of the worse written articles I've read in a while. The headline is totally misleading and the information relayed in the article does not jive with the title nor does the article makes sense. Saying GCHQ can use the Kinect as a snooping device is the equivalent of saying the NSA can use Kinect to spy on people. No shit!

This begs the question why would Microsoft be aware of a foreign run government program to spy on people? Unless someone can prove that they knowingly participated then the story doesn't have any legs besides the government overstepping its bounds and invading people's privacy.

 
Mixer23 said:
Guys, he just likes the attention.

If we all just ignored him he'd probably be gone within a week or two...
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Exactly. Unfortunately putting him on ignore doesn't help currently as so many people give him the attention he wants, quote his barely literate posts etc. making any reasonable next gen discussion on this site impossible since he rants in here, the X1 thread and even the Wii U thread.

And the mods refuse to do anything about it, and have generally been sucking at regulating the forums in general. I guess Cheapy probably doesn't want to lose more ad views etc. with forum traffic already way down since they launched this crappy 3.0 forum software.

I'm pretty much getting to the point of just looking for deals here, not using affiliate links, and taking my posting to properly moderated sites like GAF where posters like Timbo don't last a day.
 
dmaul1114 said:
Exactly. Unfortunately putting him on ignore doesn't help currently as so many people give him the attention he wants, quote his barely literate posts etc. making any reasonable next gen discussion on this site impossible since he rants in here, the X1 thread and even the Wii U thread.

And the mods refuse to do anything about it, and have generally been sucking at regulating the forums in general. I guess Cheapy probably doesn't want to lose more ad views etc. with forum traffic already way down since they launched this crappy 3.0 forum software.

I'm pretty much getting to the point of just looking for deals here, not using affiliate links, and taking my posting to properly moderated sites like GAF where posters like Timbo don't last a day.
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Couple things. 1) why the hell would I want attention from any one. 2) all I give is opinions on things not rants. 3) I love how I'm the bad guy but you got people here that try to bate me to start drama. 4) I have used gaf for years now and never got banned. Unlike most users on this site they let you say your opinion and not bash it nonstop.
 
TimboSliceGB said:
grow the fuck up. in all honesty im really getting to the point if these personal attacks on me don't stop i will get a mod involved.
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Or you know you could just stop posting in here.

Win win win for everyone!

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I think of this after every post I read from Timbo. Post by 4thhorseman really made me think of it too.

On Topic: I wasnt really that interested in Infamous but the more I watch videos and read about it, the more I think i'm going to buy it.

Also shitty that psv is getting unit 13, already got it from my vita bundle I bought. Not a good game either, no checkpoints means starting every level over from beginning when you die.

 
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Wow so second son is considered the first real AAA next gen title? It's funny how Titanfall gets discredited because it is multiplatform and one of those is not a sony console. Titanfall will move more xbox one consoles than Infamous will move ps4's so I would consider that a "true" next gen game even though it is going to be multiplatform.
 
Fanboygamer said:
Wow so second son is considered the first real AAA next gen title? It's funny how Titanfall gets discredited because it is multiplatform and one of those is not a sony console. Titanfall will move more xbox one consoles than Infamous will move ps4's so I would consider that a "true" next gen game even though it is going to be multiplatform.
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Titanfall gets discredited cause it looks like a last gen title.

 
Fanboygamer said:
Wow so second son is considered the first real AAA next gen title? It's funny how Titanfall gets discredited because it is multiplatform and one of those is not a sony console. Titanfall will move more xbox one consoles than Infamous will move ps4's so I would consider that a "true" next gen game even though it is going to be multiplatform.
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i would say that might be true in some way. The ps4 hype is still going on because they are so hard to find. So you got tons of people just wanting a system and good chance come late march sony will have decent supply coming in. On the side of ms they have systems collecting dust in stores and for most titanfall is really the first game they look at to make them jump into next gen.


Gamer4life88 said:
Titanfall gets discredited cause it looks like a last gen title.
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What is your def of next gen title? From a person that played titanfall beta on x1 where the game is running at 800 p and will be close to 900 p at launch, i can tell you it looks better then anything 360 can push out. No one has yet to see footage of 360 version who knows how well that will play.

 
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Blaster man said:
You must have a lot of time on your hands. It used to be, people would consider a game "finished" when they "beat" the game. Now they've added in all these extra chores and people don't consider a game "complete" unless they do them all. Most of those things are just time sinks for no apparent reason. At least with Remember Me most (all but one type) of the collectables are power ups though you certainly don't need them all to complete the game.
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I meant maxing out trophies and achievements which aren't hard to do if your decent at games and doesn't take long. No I do not collect every damn pointless collectible in a game like AC4 where they dont matter.

 
Fanboygamer said:
Wow so second son is considered the first real AAA next gen title? It's funny how Titanfall gets discredited because it is multiplatform and one of those is not a sony console. Titanfall will move more xbox one consoles than Infamous will move ps4's so I would consider that a "true" next gen game even though it is going to be multiplatform.
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The majority of us are not hating on Titanfall but this is a discussion about PS4 games on the PS4 thread. Thus, don't be surprised if Second Sons is thought of as the first real AAA next gen game for the PS4. Furthermore, the game looks awesome and I expect it to be very well received.

 
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second son was the game everyone was talking about since it was announced at ps4 conf last feb. So for most people yes it's the first true next gen game for ps4.

 
TimboSliceGB said:
What is your def of next gen title? From a person that played titanfall beta on x1 where the game is running at 800 p and will be close to 900 p at launch, i can tell you it looks better then anything 360 can push out. No one has yet to see footage of 360 version who knows how well that will play.
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Visuals play a part for me. Titanfall doesn't look that great from the videos I've seen. I still think the 360 version will be on par with it, that's why they've kept it hidden. They don't want any negative press in regards to it and they want to sell Xbones. Just my opinion of course. I also thought the game was said to run at 792p. That being said, Im sure it will be a hit for MS.

 
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I am interested in Titanfall when its $30 or less for 360. Other than that though Im not buying a $500 system for one game.

Or I lied. I would probably buy a XBone for Gears. Especially if its a custom console. Hopefully by then the system will be $450 or less since its sure looking that way with all the sales/gift card deals for buying a XBone now.  :D

 
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For me next gen is about the visuals and fluidity because who wants to play a game at 1080p @ 30fps when you get frame rate dips, I would personally play a game at lower visual settings to get a better FPS. I would do that a lot with my old video card, I would set the settings to med/high so I would get a consistent 60+.

Second Son has amazing graphics and sprites from what I have seen from gameplays but to belittle another next gen title because it is not on your preferred platform is disrespectful. Albeit, I know I am on the ps3/ps4 forums and there will be bias, there should be a level of respect amongst ourselves when it comes to gaming. Either way I'm looking forward to March with all the great releases there is no way you can go wrong.
 
Fanboygamer said:
For me next gen is about the visuals and fluidity because who wants to play a game at 1080p @ 30fps when you get frame rate dips, I would personally play a game at lower visual settings to get a better FPS. I would do that a lot with my old video card, I would set the settings to med/high so I would get a consistent 60+.

Second Son has amazing graphics and sprites from what I have seen from gameplays but to belittle another next gen title because it is not on your preferred platform is disrespectful. Albeit, I know I am on the ps3/ps4 forums and there will be bias, there should be a level of respect amongst ourselves when it comes to gaming. Either way I'm looking forward to March with all the great releases there is no way you can go wrong.
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So my question to you then, and this isnt meant with any malice , what does that make the Call of Duty games on last gen? They ran at 60 fps (not sure about consistent though), so I feel that has to be more to it than just frame rate. Which is why I think graphics also matter, because Im not sure if last gen systems could do both. To me, that is one factor if its next gen: being able to do something the previous gen cant.

Of course that leads to arguments about what can and can not be done, and not one I am knowledgeable enough to get into.
 
4thHorseman said:
So my question to you then, and this isnt meant with any malice , what does that make the Call of Duty games on last gen? They ran at 60 fps (not sure about consistent though), so I feel that has to be more to it than just frame rate. Which is why I think graphics also matter, because Im not sure if last gen systems could do both. To me, that is one factor if its next gen: being able to do something the previous gen cant.

Of course that leads to arguments about what can and can not be done, and not one I am knowledgeable enough to get into.
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I think that is why call of duty has a mass appeal. CoD has great balanced gameplay, fluid frame rates and amazing marketing with that said the upgrade to this gen improves on all those points with a better emphasis on visuals and textures. Although MS has not figured out the 1080p formula yet this gen is already off to a great start and I am looking forward to all the iterations of our favorite games with the next gen engines and makeovers.
 
TimboSliceGB said:
Couple things. 1) why the hell would I want attention from any one. 2) all I give is opinions on things not rants. 3) I love how I'm the bad guy but you got people here that try to bate me to start drama. 4) I have used gaf for years now and never got banned. Unlike most users on this site they let you say your opinion and not bash it nonstop.
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What's your username on NeoGAF?

 
I was in the Beta for Titanfall as well. The game isnt bad at all, but it didnt really feel like gen. It looks alright but it really doesnt look like something the 360 could do.

 
Wow, PS+ is really starting to impress me for quality of content.  Seems they've finally got over playing favorites with EU and are sharing the love.  Nothing for me this month, but I can finally be confident in the future of the program.  Sony has really brought back that magic I felt with PS1 again.

 
I have a quick question, On ps3 there is the option to delete game data and save data separately so as to keep your saves while deleting huge installs like Splinter Cell Blacklist. Is this option on PS4 and if so, how do you go about doing it?

 
NeedleInTheHay said:
I have a quick question, On ps3 there is the option to delete game data and save data separately so as to keep your saves while deleting huge installs like Splinter Cell Blacklist. Is this option on PS4 and if so, how do you go about doing it?
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I'm pretty sure if you select "options" to delete the game that it will just delete the game. Also under the memory management thing under options it lists the games and saves separately so you can delete games from there as well.

 
NeedleInTheHay said:
I have a quick question, On ps3 there is the option to delete game data and save data separately so as to keep your saves while deleting huge installs like Splinter Cell Blacklist. Is this option on PS4 and if so, how do you go about doing it?
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Yeah you can do it on the ps4. Your saves are stored under system storage management/application saved data. You can also upload them to the cloud from there.

Edit:

Beaten by Mr. Weiner

 
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i think the order will look great even if it's only 30 fps seeing it's slower pace game. Second son on other hand might have some issues with fast pace stuff at 30 fps. 

 
TimboSliceGB said:
TimboSliceGB, on 02 Mar 2014 - 9:27 PM, said:
i think the order will look great even if it's only 30 fps seeing it's slower pace game. Second son on other hand might have some issues with fast pace stuff at 30 fps.
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Infamous will be the shizznizzle bread basket doodoo haircut what's it all about Mr. Bean! Can't wait!

 
Donut2922 said:
If that holds true, I'll be stunned.
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Why is it hard to believe?

Even if Infamous isn't as hyped as Titanfall the PS4 certainly is more hyped and selling better then the X1 so why wouldn't a PS4 bundle (with any game) sell better, at least in regards to preorders received, then an X1 bundle even if it has the most anticipated game included?

I mean they could bundle Knack with the PS4 and as long as it was readily available I would expect it to outsell the Titanfall bundle.

Edit: The article is comparing bundle sales... not straight Infamous vs Titanfall sales right? If so then I would certainly expect Titanfall to outsell infamous

 
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GBAstar said:
Why is it hard to believe?
Even if Infamous isn't as hyped as Titanfall the PS4 certainly is more hyped and selling better then the X1 so why wouldn't a PS4 bundle (with any game) sell better, at least in regards to preorders received, then an X1 bundle even if it has the most anticipated game included?
I mean they could bundle Knack with the PS4 and as long as it was readily available I would expect it to outsell the Titanfall bundle.


Edit: The article is comparing bundle sales... not straight Infamous vs Titanfall sales right? If so then I would certainly expect Titanfall to outsell infamous
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I would imagine a good chunk of PS4 owners are planning on picking up Infamous. Mainly because the lack of PS4 games available. Most people that had a PS4 since November are probably wanting some fresh games to play. The only things that might keep a PS4 owner away from Infamous would be the lack of multiplayer or it's because they didn't play the previous Infamous games. Personally I'm not into multiplayer games and prefer a good single player story over multiplayer any day.

The same can be said about TitanFall about the lack of games. And it's the complete opposite, it has multiplayer and doesn't have single player. I also have a Xbone and will probably pick up TitanFall if reviews are good. My main reason is because I just want something to play on my Xbox. All other games that are multi-platform, I've purchased for the PS4. Not because of the 1080p vs 700p, but because I prefer the dashboard and controller of the PS4.

True Story:
I actually had both the PS3 and 360 at launch and preferred my 360 over the ps3. Ended up selling my ps3 within the first year. And only played Xbox. In 2010 I ran into a large sum of money and rebought a PS3 and immediately started playing some of the exclusives that I had missed out on. From that point on, I preferred my PlayStation over XBOX. I just enjoy all the Sony exclusive games and never really got into the Xbox exclusives. Then PS+ came out and I seen the value there. When Sony started the IGC, they made a good service great. Microsoft starting their Games With Gold program shows they wanted what Sony had. And honested those games have been a joke. Games With Gold still hasn't came to Xbone and PS4 has had PS+ since the night it launched.

Sorry to just rant a little and I know it probably isn't the right place for it. Just wanted to say those things.
 
GBAstar said:
Why is it hard to believe?

Even if Infamous isn't as hyped as Titanfall the PS4 certainly is more hyped and selling better then the X1 so why wouldn't a PS4 bundle (with any game) sell better, at least in regards to preorders received, then an X1 bundle even if it has the most anticipated game included?

I mean they could bundle Knack with the PS4 and as long as it was readily available I would expect it to outsell the Titanfall bundle.

Edit: The article is comparing bundle sales... not straight Infamous vs Titanfall sales right? If so then I would certainly expect Titanfall to outsell infamous
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Yeah, its just comparing the bundles. I expect Titanfall to outsell Second Son as well only because its on more platforms.

 
GBAstar said:
Why is it hard to believe?

Even if Infamous isn't as hyped as Titanfall the PS4 certainly is more hyped and selling better then the X1 so why wouldn't a PS4 bundle (with any game) sell better, at least in regards to preorders received, then an X1 bundle even if it has the most anticipated game included?

I mean they could bundle Knack with the PS4 and as long as it was readily available I would expect it to outsell the Titanfall bundle.

Edit: The article is comparing bundle sales... not straight Infamous vs Titanfall sales right? If so then I would certainly expect Titanfall to outsell infamous
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The Infamous bundle is currently outselling both the Titanfall bundle and the standalone game on Gamestop.com.

http://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=28-xu0

The big advantage Infamous has over Titanfall right now is that there are well over a million more PS4s in people's homes. (5.6 million PS4s versus 3+ million Xbox Ones... I'm not sure what the current number for Xbox One is since the last report I remember is for the end of 2013.)

 
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