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Seemed about time for a new thread, so here it is. Welcome to the Steam Deals Thread V11!

Daily Deal
Luftrausers - $9.99 $5.99
 
Yesterday's Deal
Metro: Last Light Complete Edition - $19.99 $9.99
Metro 2033 - $14.99 $3.74
 
Weekend Deals
Europa Universalis IV - $39.99 $9.99
Europa Universalis IV Extreme Edition - $44.99 $11.24 [customspoiler=DLC][/customspoiler]
Europa Universalis III Collection - 39.99 9.99
Europa Universalis III Complete - 14.99 3.74 [customspoiler=DLC][/customspoiler]
Europa Universalis: Rome - Gold Edition - 9.99 2.49
PAYDAY 2 - 29.99 9.99 [customspoiler=DLC][/customspoiler]
PAYDAY™ The Heist - 14.99 4.99 [customspoiler=DLC][/customspoiler]

Midweek Madness
Audiosurf 2 - $14.99 $8.99
Audiosurf - $9.99 $2.49
XCOM Complete - $49.99 $24.99 [customspoiler=Includes][/customspoiler][/customspoiler]
Painkiller Complete Pack - $69.99 $13.99 [customspoiler=Includes][/customspoiler][/customspoiler]
 
Weeklong Deals
Pool Nation - $9.99 $1.49
Booster Trooper - $4.99 $0.74
Zeno Clash - $9.99 $1.99
Thunder Wolves - $9.99 $1.99
Alien Breed™ Trilogy - $22.99 $11.49 [customspoiler=Includes][/customspoiler]
Two Worlds II - $19.99 $4.99 [customspoiler=DLC][/customspoiler]
Titan Quest - Immortal Throne - $14.99 $3.74
Titan Quest - $14.99 $3.74
Sine Mora - $9.99 $2.49
Primal Carnage - $14.99 $3.74
Mirror's Edge™ - $19.99 $4.99
Hard Truck Apocalypse / Ex Machina - $7.99 $1.99
Guncraft - $14.99 $3.74
Expeditions: Conquistador - $19.99 $4.99
Alien Spidy - $9.99 $2.49
Violett - $9.99 $2.99
Dark Matter - $14.99 $4.49
Survivor Squad - $8.99 $2.96
Victoria II - $19.99 $6.79
Star Trek - $14.99 $5.09
Knights of Pen and Paper +1 Edition - $14.99 $5.09
Tiny Troopers - $4.99 $2.49
Spate - $9.99 $4.99
SimCity™ 4 Deluxe Edition - $19.99 $9.99
Litil Divil - $9.99 $4.99
Last Dream - $9.99 $4.99
KickBeat Steam Edition - $9.99 $4.99
Euro Truck Simulator 2 - $39.99 $19.99
Dead Space Pack - $34.99 $8.74 [customspoiler=Includes][/customspoiler]
Earthworm Jim Collection - $19.99 $9.99
Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension - $34.99 $17.49
Desert Thunder - $9.99 $4.99
Construction Machines 2014 - $14.99 $7.49
Tower of Guns - $14.99 $8.24
PlayClaw - Game Video Recorder - $49.99 $29.99
Vox - $9.99 $7.49
Obscure II (Obscure: The Aftermath) - $9.99 $7.49
Obscure - $6.99 $5.24
Action Indie Pack - $14.99 $1.49
Geneforge Saga - $19.99 $3.99

Miscellaneous Deals (end time varies)
Cloudbuilt - $19.99 $9.19
Titan Quest Gold - $19.99 $4.99
Football Manager 2014 - $49.99 $12.5
Dracula Trilogy - $19.99 $9.99 [customspoiler=Includes][/customspoiler]
The Wolf Among Us - $24.99 $16.74
MXGP - $39.99 $25.19
FX Eleven - $19.99 $9.99
Franchise Hockey Manager 2014 - $39.99 $19.99
Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons - $14.99 $6.00
 
Thread under construction, more to be added shortly...
 
Thanks to EastX, Detruire, Psydero, and everyone else that has contributed to the thread!
 
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You'd have to be crazy to buy Xbone.
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(You'd also have to be crazy to think any racing series is better than Forza, too.)

 
Are you really that worried about new releases? I'm almost never worried about new releases. I have so many amazing games rotting in my backlog waiting to be played. It's not that I don't want to play them, I just haven't yet. They're there, cozy in my Steam library, just waiting for me. What are new releases?
I'm not worried. I'm just going over the factors involved in deciding whether to buy PS4. I'm disappointed about it tho, nothing to be excited about.

MGS GZ runs the same on X1 too lol, plus its only 30 mins. only the ps3 and 360 versions are trash doe.
Are you serious? The PS4 version is leagues better than the Xbone one.

 
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I'm not worried. I'm just going over the factors involved in deciding whether to buy PS4. I'm disappointed about it tho, nothing to be excited about.

Are you serious? The PS4 version is leagues better than the Xbone one.
That's why I went with the Xbone. It's the same old thing, one console is "technically" slightly better than the other, but then the that goes up and down between different games, and updates roll along and things change, and a couple years later the arguments have mostly died down and both consoles are generally considered to be similar.

As a PC gamer, you're looking at two things. 1. Exclusives, and 2. What can the console do that the PC can't? The PS4 is really just a PS3 with better graphics, while the Xbone adds some new features that you can't get on the PC. I was more interested in the Xbone exclusives, so that's where I went.

Sony is good for exclusives too, but none of them interested me, just like none of them really interested me on the PS3 (besides Last of Us).

 
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So $670 or so to play one game, and to replay a game you've already played to death with slightly better graphics.

I'm not sure what to say here.
Not sure either... Did snake buy or just rent the latest MGS game? If he rented maybe we can save him (her?) but if he bought it.. There's likely nothing we can do.

Sony is good for exclusives too, but none of them interested me, just like none of them really interested me on the PS3 (besides Last of Us).
Pretty much the same boat here... With the sole exceptions being the Uncharted series, LBP series, and MLB The Show. Truth be told, my having bought a a PS3 could easily be labeled a mistake.

 
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But it's tempting dammit. You don't need to tell me it's a bad idea. I still want one.
I want Wii U and 3ds, and while I wouldn't mind having an Xbone or PS4 (or both), the best approach is really to just wait until the prices drop and you can see which system has the best exclusives. You never know how it'll turn out. I bought an Xbox 360 first and the exclusives for that system turned out to be fuck ing horrible, compared to PS3 or the Wii. Really I would recommend even waiting just til Black Friday and seeing what deals you can get on either console. But it all comes down to whether you think it's worth it or not.

Edit: I think my personal approach is to limit myself to, at most, one new console per year at Black Friday. I bought my PS3 at Black Friday this year...I've played just two games on it (God of War + Demon's Souls). Alright for 200 bucks, since it came with a few games as well, but if I were paying as much for it as an Xbone or PS4....mehhh i'd feel a bit guilty about it.

 
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re: Shield.

I have it and it's well made with a nice construction, good screen. Doesn't feel cheap at all like some android devices can. The streaming works really well for me. It's not just Steam stuff either you can Stream UPlay stuff like AC IV and supposedly some Origin stuff too.

It works pretty well utilizing Steam big picture mode and you can run games not on the list but it's somewhat YMMV. Ones with controller support tend to do okay but the ones that don't have it doesn't work so well. There's an option to map touch controls to the Shield controllers though.

As mentioned the new update today is going to let you stream anywhere you can connect to a wifi connection, not just on your home network. Some people were already doing it though by rooting and that is an option. They've been pretty good with the updates too keeping it on the latest Android version and adding features.

It does work really well with emulators if you're into older games.

I like it but I honestly can't say I play it a ton. Maybe I'm not much of a mobile gamer or maybe it's just me and my obsession with buying games even when I don't play them. *shrug*

*Edit: Oh and I forgot probably the biggest caveat of Shield is that you need a relatively recent Nvidia card to do the streaming. I believe it has to be a 650 or higher.

 
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I'd never heard of the Shield before today. Now I want one because... wants.

I read something about needing an Nvidia card in your PC. Is that true? Or have I misread? I'm V interested in anything that lets me game while I'm not sat upstairs in my study; the wife considers it "antisocial".

Edit: Motoki'd. I better go check my PC, I have *no* idea what my graphics card is.
 
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It might. LoS are the first/only Castlevania games to come to PC, iirc.
There was a PC release of the NES trilogy along with both NES Contra games. Best I can tell, it was just the NES ROMs run through an emulator though. I have it on my shelf... redundantly since I have all the NES carts.

It was, just not enough for me to look over the drop in quality compared to the other DS Castlevanias (or even the GBA ones). I should have been more specific, it's my least favourite Metroidvania (not Classicvania). Even Portrait of Ruin isn't as terrible as Simon's Quest (and we're still pretending Judgment never happened, right?)
I liked the sisters' mode in Portrait of Ruin better than the story game. Of course, it was hard to appreciate PoR when the one before it, Dawn of Sorrow, won me over to be my favorite in the series by combining the best elements of Aria, Symphony, and Curse.

I enjoyed Judgment for what it was, though Simon's portrayal was, ugh.

Impossible? I scoff at your impossible. I loved Simon's Quest, and it was one of the first games I ever beat. Could I play through it now? Oh, hell no. But Little Spoony Bard had some NES skillz.
I loved Simon's Quest. It was an easier game that the original Castlevania, in the long run. I remember being disappointed at first that Dracula's Curse wasn't like Simon's Quest, but then Curse was sooo good that I was instantly glad they went the way they did. Then Symphony went and put the freedom of exploration back in and Castlevania's place in gaming history was solidified.

Still love Simon's Quest, but I continue to have the game memorized... which may actually be for the best, since there's no getting stuck at Deborah's Cliff or not realizing that the ferryman can take you to an alternate destination.

 
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Someone help me, I found PS4 in stock online and the limited supply is playing tricks with my mind. I want one.

After tax it's a whopping $508.49 and games are $80 after tax here. I think my cheap ass blood will save me in the end, but man I'm tempted.
Sounds like you made up your mind, but you could literally buy thousands of Steam games for that much money.

Look how low we have sunk in this thread.

Need sale now, Steam!
SO why is it I log into check the Steam Deals and I run into console talk ??????

I fear Gabe's wrath.....
Seriously, I open up the thread this morning and discover four unread pages only to have to wade through this shit. I thought something exciting was happening! I blame the bundle sites more than Valve, actually...only Indiegala has had anything exciting recently.

I loved Simon's Quest. It was an easier game that the original Castlevania, in the long run. I remember being disappointed at first that Dracula's Curse wasn't like Simon's Quest, but then Curse was sooo good that I was instantly glad they went the way they did. Then Symphony went and put the freedom of exploration back in and Castlevania's place in gaming history was solidified.

Still love Simon's Quest, but I continue to have the game memorized... which may actually be for the best, since there's no getting stuck at Deborah's Cliff or not realizing that the ferryman can take you to an alternate destination.
I enjoyed Simon's Quest too, but I didn't get into it until the internet and walkthroughs came along. You'd have had to be a damn lucky bastard to figure out the tricks to progress without them, or Nintendo Power hints or whatever people used back in the day. Anyway, SQ was the original Metroidvania and assuming you don't get stuck I still think it's a great game.

 
Cannot really patch hardware at that level... It would be like adding RAM to your video card (or anything else for that matter) via a patch.

Despicable? *shrug* Not sure but you can always buy a 2000 used... Case in point; you don't really think I bought a PS3 at launch do you? ;)
The wording is what bothers me. They didn't say it was impossible/they couldn't patch it, just that they weren't going to. Which makes me think there was a solution, but they couldn't be bothered.

That's why I went with the Xbone. It's the same old thing, one console is "technically" slightly better than the other, but then the that goes up and down between different games, and updates roll along and things change, and a couple years later the arguments have mostly died down and both consoles are generally considered to be similar.

As a PC gamer, you're looking at two things. 1. Exclusives, and 2. What can the console do that the PC can't? The PS4 is really just a PS3 with better graphics, while the Xbone adds some new features that you can't get on the PC. I was more interested in the Xbone exclusives, so that's where I went.

Sony is good for exclusives too, but none of them interested me, just like none of them really interested me on the PS3 (besides Last of Us).
Well, to be fair right now, there's a sizeable difference in the performance for the two. That said, it's early in the generation, but since they have such similar architecture and the PS4 has a DDR5 (which they're going to regret because costs are skyrocketing due to the cryptocurrency miners) and the Xbox One has a DDR3, there's a high chance that a performance difference will remain unless the devs specifically make it with the Xbox One in mind. The only hope for the Xbox One is DX12, Nvidia and AMD just announced massive support for OpenGL (and showcased massive gains with it at GDC the day after the DX12 announcement) though (which the PS4 is using) so.. where it goes is anyone's guess. There's speculation DX12 = Mantle, as well.

Interestingly enough it's the reverse of last generation, where the PS3 was the "weaker" system (see Bayonetta, RDR) because of its stupid deliberately complicated architecture (yes, it was intentional -> http://www.cnet.com/news/sony-ps3-is-hard-to-develop-for-on-purpose/), where the PS3 had to be developed for first before being ported to the 360, lest risking it not work at all.

So the PS4 (like the 360) will most likely be the better multiplat machine of the two. That said, with the majority of titles being on Xbox One, PC, PS4 because of the similar system architecture between the 3, it may not even matter as long as you have a gaming PC.

So yeah, as you said, exclusives should be the main motivating factor for buying either this gen if you're a PC gamer, and the exclusives just aren't there though (right now I'd say the Xbox One has the edge on exclusives, of the two). Other than that, the PS4 will most likely be the go-to choice for console-only games.. which I expect to be very, very few of this gen (and regular exclusives too) because porting is simpler/cheaper than ever. Japanese devs are probably the last big holdout on that front.

I want Wii U and 3ds, and while I wouldn't mind having an Xbone or PS4 (or both), the best approach is really to just wait until the prices drop and you can see which system has the best exclusives. You never know how it'll turn out. I bought an Xbox 360 first and the exclusives for that system turned out to be fuck ing horrible, compared to PS3 or the Wii. Really I would recommend even waiting just til Black Friday and seeing what deals you can get on either console. But it all comes down to whether you think it's worth it or not.

Edit: I think my personal approach is to limit myself to, at most, one new console per year at Black Friday. I bought my PS3 at Black Friday this year...I've played just two games on it (God of War + Demon's Souls). Alright for 200 bucks, since it came with a few games as well, but if I were paying as much for it as an Xbone or PS4....mehhh i'd feel a bit guilty about it.
+1 Almost all the millions of people who bought the Xbox One or PS4 within the first month, did it on hype alone, which isn't the best decision. There's almost no benefit to being an early adopter/guinea pig other than playing stuff at release. The only time being an early adopter got you anything was the 3DS with its ambassador program, and that was only because of an $80 price drop within 4 months of launch (big slap in the face), which happened because there was so much hype for the 3DS that they raised the original price (there's an interview where they said they were surprised by the demand, and they adjusted the price accordingly, the cost of parts for it was only $100something, iirc)

To be fair, the 360 had good exclusives until about 2009/2010, when coincidentally, their focus shifted to the Kinect (which proceeded to eat up all the future exclusives). Basically, they dumped their exclusives-securing money into the money pit that was the original Kinect (in fact, the Kinect is pretty much the reason for all their woes, but I could talk about that all day).

There was a PC release of the NES trilogy along with both NES Contra games. Best I can tell, it was just the NES ROMs run through an emulator though. I have it on my shelf... redundantly since I have all the NES carts.

I liked the sisters' mode in Portrait of Ruin better than the story game. Of course, it was hard to appreciate PoR when the one before it, Dawn of Sorrow, won me over to be my favorite in the series by combining the best elements of Aria, Symphony, and Curse.

I enjoyed Judgment for what it was, though Simon's portrayal was, ugh.
Interesting, sounds like the Genesis releases on Steam. Can't imagine it sold well..

Yeah, that's what I mean by "drop in quality", Dawn of Sorrow was fantastic.

Judgment is "fun", I just pretend it's not a Castlevania game. It's just a coincidence that Judgment's MC shares the same name as Simon, right? There's gotta be plenty of Simon Belmonts out there. ;_;

 
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Anyone else interested in Betrayer?

Its a controller-friendly, semi-open world game with a unique setting with a mystery as its plot device.

I don't normally buy Indie games at release, but I liked the concept and wanted to support this new developer (former Monolith people).  I bought it through JakeNome....

 
To be fair, the 360 had good exclusives until about 2009/2010, when coincidentally, their focus shifted to the Kinect (which proceeded to eat up all the future exclusives). Basically, they dumped their exclusives-securing money into the money pit that was the original Kinect (in fact, the Kinect is pretty much the reason for all their woes, but I could talk about that all day).
I guess my thing is that with their "good exclusives," I have zero interest in them. What are their good ones? Halo and Gears of War? Blech.

 
Anyone else interested in Betrayer?

Its a controller-friendly, semi-open world game with a unique setting with a mystery as its plot device.

I don't normally buy Indie games at release, but I liked the concept and wanted to support this new developer (former Monolith people). I bought it through JakeNome....
FTFY, seriously, Monolith is/was fantastic, that should be the first thing you say. No shame in supporting their former people, even at full price. Thank you for the heads-up.

Maybe I just have a soft spot for them because they made the first PC game I really loved..

 
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Anyone else interested in Betrayer?

Its a controller-friendly, semi-open world game with a unique setting with a mystery as its plot device.

I don't normally buy Indie games at release, but I liked the concept and wanted to support this new developer (former Monolith people). I bought it through JakeNome....
This has been in early access since last fall. I bought it from Jakenome back then and played it a bit. I like the art design/style and the combat, story, environment are all very cool. It was obviously unfinished back then so I didn't dedicate too much time into it, but now that it is finished I look forward to going back and putting more time in it.

 
Anyone else interested in Betrayer?

Its a controller-friendly, semi-open world game with a unique setting with a mystery as its plot device.

I don't normally buy Indie games at release, but I liked the concept and wanted to support this new developer (former Monolith people). I bought it through JakeNome....
I do think the game looks interesting, but I haven't had a chance to check it out more. I did add it to my wishlist this morning though to research it after I saw it.

 
This has been in early access since last fall. I bought it from Jakenome back then and played it a bit. I like the art design/style and the combat, story, environment are all very cool. It was obviously unfinished back then so I didn't dedicate too much time into it, but now that it is finished I look forward to going back and putting more time in it.
I know he mentioned it was semi-open world, but does it lean more towards RPG/open world or more towards a survival horror/linear type of game? I think I might like it either way, but I'm curious. I should youtube some videos of people playing the game to get a better idea.

 
I know he mentioned it was semi-open world, but does it lean more towards RPG/open world or more towards a survival horror/linear type of game? I think I might like it either way, but I'm curious. I should youtube some videos of people playing the game to get a better idea.
I didn't get too deep into it but it really is a mix of both. It is open world and you go around killing baddies, but I ran into story lines and info that you don't find in survival games. So I would peg it as an open world survival game but with more story than you would expect. There is story, but you're left to sort of interpret it as you want.

 
I'm torn between buying this now since I'm sure it's worth the $18 or waiting to see if it drops more. The only thing that kind of throws me off is the black and white, I'm not sure how much I like that.

 
I'm torn between buying this now since I'm sure it's worth the $18 or waiting to see if it drops more. The only thing that kind of throws me off is the black and white, I'm not sure how much I like that.
I believe they allow you to colorize it after getting complaints about it, but you should double check that (I don't mind it myself). It was $15 during early access and I got it for $10 through a trader so the price has been cheaper.

 
I'm torn between buying this now since I'm sure it's worth the $18 or waiting to see if it drops more. The only thing that kind of throws me off is the black and white, I'm not sure how much I like that.
You can change the color as you see fit - I think you can have it look natural, or black-&-white, or a mix (there is a slider, I think).

JakeNome has it for less than $14 - so I went that route.

 
I guess my thing is that with their "good exclusives," I have zero interest in them. What are their good ones? Halo and Gears of War? Blech.
*sigh* I run into this attitude all the time when talking about the 360, and I hate it. But it's not even your fault for feeling that way, they did really shitty advertising for their gems. But I'll do you a service, and give you a list:

Good 360 Exclusives That Aren't Halo, Fable, Forza or Gears List:
Ace Combat 6
Beautiful Katamari
Blue Dragon
Bullet Witch
Chromehounds (Sucks now that servers are down forever)
Crackdown (sequel is meh)
Culdcept Saga
Dead or Alive 4 (Xtreme 2 if you wanna ogle)
Deathsmiles 1 & 2
Fuzion Frenzy 2
Gunstringer (Kinect-required, very underrated)
Idolm@ster
Kameo
Kinect Sports (surprisingly good)
Kingdom Under Fire: CoD
Namco Museum Virtual Arcade
Ninja Gaiden 2
Onechanbara
Project Gotham Racing series
Rumble Roses XX
Too Human
Viva Pinata series

Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts
Undertow
Naruto: Broken Bond (the original was okay)
Sonic Free Riders
Guilty Gear 2: Overture
Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor
Perfect Dark Zero
Saints Row
Akai Katana
Assault Heroes 2
Bomberman Live
Bomberman Battlefest
Boom Boom Rocket
Charlie Murder
Hybrid
Islands of Wakfu
Ridge Racer 6
Pinball FX 1
Screwjumper!
South Park Let's Go Tower Defense Play
The Splatters

Dead Rising 2: Case Zero & Case West
Deadlight
Doritos Crash Course 1 & 2
Dash of Destruction
KoF: Sky Stage
KoF: 2002 Ultimate Match

Wreckateer

Snoopy Flying Ace
Rez HD
Geometry Wars 1 & 2
Trials HD
ilomilo
Death Tank
Guwange HD
Both Dishwasher games
Trouble Witches Neo
Guardian Heroes HD
Virtua On OT
Raskulls
Splosion Man/Ms. Splosion Man
Comic Jumper (I guess)
Full House Poker
Alien Hominid HD
Perfect Dark HD
Radiant Silvergun HD
N+
Marble Blast Ultra

Banjo HD games

Dead Rising 1 (Wii port doesn't count)

Lost Odyssey (very underrated, one of the best JRPGs for the system, multiplats included)

English Tales of Vesperia

Bangai-O HD

Ninety-Nine Nights 1 & 2

Edit: Also, there's a bajillion and one Japanese-only shmups because Sony actively turned them away. Seriously.

 
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*sigh* I run into this attitude all the time when talking about the 360, and I hate it. But it's not even your fault for feeling that way, they did really shitty advertising for their gems. But I'll do you a service, and give you a list:

Good 360 Exclusives That Aren't Halo, Fable, Forza or Gears List:
Ace Combat 6
Beautiful Katamari
Blue Dragon
Bullet Witch
Chromehounds (Sucks now that servers are down forever)
Crackdown (sequel is meh)
Culdcept Saga
Dead or Alive 4 (Xtreme 2 if you wanna ogle)
Deathsmiles 1 & 2
Fuzion Frenzy 2
Gunstringer (Kinect-required, very underrated)
Idolm@ster
Kameo
Kinect Sports (surprisingly good)
Kingdom Under Fire: CoD
Namco Museum Virtual Arcade
Ninja Gaiden 2
Onechanbara
Project Gotham Racing series
Rumble Roses XX
Too Human
Viva Pinata series
Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts
Undertow
Naruto: Broken Bond (the original was okay)
Sonic Free Riders
Guilty Gear 2: Overture
Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor
Perfect Dark Zero
Saints Row
Akai Katana
Assault Heroes 2
Bomberman Live
Bomberman Battlefest
Boom Boom Rocket
Charlie Murder
Hybrid
Islands of Wakfu
Ridge Racer 6
Pinball FX 1
Screwjumper!
South Park Let's Go Tower Defense Play
The Splatters
Dead Rising 2: Case Zero & Case West
Deadlight
Doritos Crash Course 1 & 2
Dash of Destruction
KoF: Sky Stage
KoF: 2002 Ultimate Match
Wreckateer
Snoopy Flying Ace
Rez HD
Geometry Wars 1 & 2
Trials HD/Evolution
ilomilo
Death Tank
Guwange HD
Both Dishwasher games
Trouble Witches Neo
Guardian Heroes HD
Virtua On OT
Raskulls
Splosion Man/Ms. Splosion Man
Comic Jumper (I guess)
Full House Poker
Alien Hominid HD
Perfect Dark HD
Radiant Silvergun HD
N+
Marble Blast Ultra
Banjo HD games
Dead Rising 1 (Wii port doesn't count)
Lost Odyssey (very underrated, one of the best JRPGs for the system, multiplats included)
English Tales of Vesperia
Bangai-O HD
I own a 360 and can admit that list is pathetic, aside from Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia. There are some decent games on that list but I think only those 2 are worth owning the system for. Trials Evolution is great, but you can just buy that on Steam/Uplay.
 
You can change the color as you see fit - I think you can have it look natural, or black-&-white, or a mix (there is a slider, I think).

JakeNome has it for less than $14 - so I went that route.
Yea I think I'm sold on this now. I didn't even know this game existed yesterday and now I need it lol. I just finally got around to getting Skyrim and was going to play that next but now I think I might have to put that on the backlog.

 
I own a 360 and can admit that list is pathetic, aside from Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia. There are some decent games on that list but I think only those 2 are worth owning the system for. Trials Evolution is great, but you can just buy that on Steam/Uplay.
I agree, most of it isn't worth buying a system for, but DR1 was good at the time, I still think Gaiden 2 is better than Sigma 2. I enjoyed DoA4, Viva Pinata, some of the HD games (Banjo specifically because the Stop n Swop FINALLY WORKS!). Too Human, Crackdown, Kameo, Project Gotham Racing, etc. All of that together, was enough to get me to buy in.

I made the list because he didn't ask for system sellers, just good exclusives. On top of that, there are many games I left out that were 360/PC only (I forgot about Trials being on PC, edited), like Left 4 Dead, etc. So if you're like me and didn't have a gaming PC at the time, you had that factor as well.

I just mainly hate the Xbox = Gears/Halo/Forza machine talk, because before 2009/2010, it wasn't. It's just those games were the ones Microsoft pushed in the limelight, for better or worse.

 
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That's why I went with the Xbone. It's the same old thing, one console is "technically" slightly better than the other, but then the that goes up and down between different games, and updates roll along and things change, and a couple years later the arguments have mostly died down and both consoles are generally considered to be similar.
I think you're really downplaying the difference between PS4 and XBone's hardware capabilities, they're not anywhere as close as PS3 and 360 were.

 
I just mainly hate the Xbox = Gears/Halo/Forza machine talk, because before 2009/2010, it wasn't. It's just those games were the ones Microsoft pushed in the limelight, for better or worse.
Maybe I don't understand this point, but Halo has been the main selling point for the system dating back to the original Xbox. And GoW has been out since 2006 and was the selling point for the 360.

 
Maybe I don't understand this point, but Halo has been the main selling point for the system dating back to the original Xbox. And GoW has been out since 2006 and was the selling point for the 360.
It's the equivalent of calling the PS3 the Killzone/Uncharted/David Cage machine, which I think is similarly unfair.

I think you're really downplaying the difference between PS4 and XBone's hardware capabilities, they're not anywhere as close as PS3 and 360 were.
It is way too early to make that call. The PS3 had a much worse GPU they put in last minute. I'd say the comparison is closer than you think (look at Dark Souls 2, for example).

 
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It's the equivalent of calling the PS3 the Killzone/Uncharted/David Cage machine, which I think is similarly unfair.
I don't. I'd throw Resistance in, remove Cage (his games are cult really) and add in The Last of Us.

The difference though is that with games like TLOU and Uncharted 3, PS3 has been able to keep churning out top notch exclusives to replace the older ones so it never gets that title. Xbox fizzled out with the exclusives and even their established series started declining which is why they remain with that label.

 
I think you're really downplaying the difference between PS4 and XBone's hardware capabilities, they're not anywhere as close as PS3 and 360 were.
Yeah, from what I've read PS4 is a lot more powerful than Xbone. They are similar in most places, but PS4 has the huge edge in GPU power. That said, the differences are probably not noticeable in normal gameplay for most people.

 
*sigh* I run into this attitude all the time when talking about the 360, and I hate it. But it's not even your fault for feeling that way, they did really shitty advertising for their gems. But I'll do you a service, and give you a list:

Good 360 Exclusives That Aren't Halo, Fable, Forza or Gears List:
Ace Combat 6
Beautiful Katamari
Blue Dragon
Bullet Witch
Chromehounds (Sucks now that servers are down forever)
Crackdown (sequel is meh)
Culdcept Saga
Dead or Alive 4 (Xtreme 2 if you wanna ogle)
Deathsmiles 1 & 2
Fuzion Frenzy 2
Gunstringer (Kinect-required, very underrated)
Idolm@ster
Kameo
Kinect Sports (surprisingly good)
Kingdom Under Fire: CoD
Namco Museum Virtual Arcade
Ninja Gaiden 2
Onechanbara
Project Gotham Racing series
Rumble Roses XX
Too Human
Viva Pinata series

Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts
Undertow
Naruto: Broken Bond (the original was okay)
Sonic Free Riders
Guilty Gear 2: Overture
Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor
Perfect Dark Zero
Saints Row
Akai Katana
Assault Heroes 2
Bomberman Live
Bomberman Battlefest
Boom Boom Rocket
Charlie Murder
Hybrid
Islands of Wakfu
Ridge Racer 6
Pinball FX 1
Screwjumper!
South Park Let's Go Tower Defense Play
The Splatters

Dead Rising 2: Case Zero & Case West
Deadlight
Doritos Crash Course 1 & 2
Dash of Destruction
KoF: Sky Stage
KoF: 2002 Ultimate Match

Wreckateer

Snoopy Flying Ace
Rez HD
Geometry Wars 1 & 2
Trials HD
ilomilo
Death Tank
Guwange HD
Both Dishwasher games
Trouble Witches Neo
Guardian Heroes HD
Virtua On OT
Raskulls
Splosion Man/Ms. Splosion Man
Comic Jumper (I guess)
Full House Poker
Alien Hominid HD
Perfect Dark HD
Radiant Silvergun HD
N+
Marble Blast Ultra

Banjo HD games

Dead Rising 1 (Wii port doesn't count)

Lost Odyssey (very underrated, one of the best JRPGs for the system, multiplats included)

English Tales of Vesperia

Bangai-O HD

Ninety-Nine Nights 1 & 2

Edit: Also, there's a bajillion and one Japanese-only shmups because Sony actively turned them away. Seriously.
there are like, no games that excite me, at all, on that list. there are a few *decent* and good games on there, but nothing worth buying a 360 for, at all. I still stand by my comment that when compared to Wii or Ps3, the 360's exclusives are a joke


It's the equivalent of calling the PS3 the Killzone/Uncharted/David Cage machine, which I think is similarly unfair.
Except not really because PS3 has a lot of top of the line exclusives (God of War, Demon's Souls, Little Big Planets, Killzones, Resistance, Infamous, Uncharted, etc). 360 has a good amount of exclusives, but they only have two franchises (Halo + GoW) on par with the large amount of system selling franchises PS3 has.

 
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The difference though is that with games like TLOU and Uncharted 3, PS3 has been able to keep churning out top notch exclusives to replace the older ones so it never gets that title. Xbox fizzled out with the exclusives and even their established series started declining which is why they remain with that label.
Can't say I disagree with that. It's a real shame that they went with the Kinect (for gaming purposes, it's a very useful device outside of gaming) as their focus. I hope Mattrick rots in the hell that is Zynga.

Yeah, from what I've read PS4 is a lot more powerful than Xbone. They are similar in most places, but PS4 has the huge edge in GPU power. That said, the differences are probably not noticeable in normal gameplay for most people.
That's mostly hyperbole. There is a noticeable difference, as I said, but there was a noticeable difference between the 360 and PS3 as well, and that mostly got sorted out towards the end of the generation. Way too early to tell. Which is fine, because I have no intention of buying either any time soon.

there are like, no games that excite me, at all, on that list. there are a few *decent* and good games on there, but nothing worth buying a 360 for, at all. I still stand by my comment that when compared to Wii or Ps3, the 360's exclusives are a joke



Except not really because PS3 has a lot of top of the line exclusives (God of War, Demon's Souls, Little Big Planets, Killzones, Resistance, Infamous, Uncharted, etc). 360 has a good amount of exclusives, but they only have two franchises (Halo + GoW) on par with the large amount of system selling franchises PS3 has.
I think there's plenty of good titles on that list, but I guess I can see how they wouldn't excite you. But to say they were a joke is a little much.. you have to remember that the PS3 had a massive drought of exclusives until around the time the 360 started dropping the ball. They pretty much just ended up switching places which was interesting.

Edit: Didn't notice the second part.

God of War only had 2 PS3 titles, and Ascension was bleh. Demon's Souls is only one game, the other 2 in the "series" went multiplat and it sure as hell didn't sell consoles. I already mentioned Killzone, and Fox mentioned Resistance. I forgot about LBP and Infamous, also good, but also only two games (on PS3).. Also, you forgot Forza. So it's more Resistance/Uncharted/LBP/Infamous/Killzone/God of War/GT vs. Halo/Gears/Forza/Fable/Viva Pinata/Crackdown, definitely in the PS3's favour.. but not by much.

I think 1080p vs 720p and 60fps vs 30fps would be noticeable to anyone with eyeballs.
Well, of course. But PS4 titles don't run in 1080p or 60 FPS aside from one or two games..

The Xbox One also has at least one or two games that does 1080p/60 FPS as well. Like I said, way too early to tell.

 
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That's mostly hyperbole. There is a noticeable difference, as I said, but there was a noticeable difference between the 360 and PS3 as well, and that mostly got sorted out towards the end of the generation. Way too early to tell. Which is fine, because I have no intention of buying either any time soon.
But it isn't hyberbole at all. It's just analysis of the specs, of hardware, of actual processing power.

 
But it isn't hyberbole at all. It's just analysis of the specs, of hardware, of actual processing power.
To say it's a much bigger difference than the one between the PS3 and the 360 is the hyperbole, is what I meant. But I've read how the PS4 is apparently 50% more powerful or something ridiculous like that, and it's simply clickbait exaggeration (as that's "on paper", not factoring in APIs and such).

 
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To say it's a much bigger difference than the one between the PS3 and the 360 is the hyperbole, is what I meant. But I've read how the PS4 is apparently 50% more powerful or something ridiculous like that, and it's simply clickbait exaggeration.
Technically speaking thats actually true.

 
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