Steam Deals Thread V13 ~ Star Wars Empire at War $6.80 | The Legend of Korra $10.04 | Red Faction Guerrilla $2.99 |

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Summer sale has come and gone; welcome to the Steam Deals Thread V13!
 
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Daily Deal
Star Wars: Empire at War Gold Edition - $19.99 $6.80

 
Yesterday's Deal

N/A

Midweek Madness
The Legend of Korra - $14.99 $10.04

Red Faction - $9.99 $1.49
Red Faction II - $9.99 $1.49
Red Faction Armageddon - $19.99 $2.99
Red Faction Guerrilla - $19.99 $2.99 
 
Thanks to EastX, Detruire, Psydero, and everyone else that has contributed to the thread!

 
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I don't know about you lot, but I've been revisiting Batman: Arkham Asylum for the Playfire achievements. That game is five years old and still better than most of the stuff I've played over the last year.

It's still very, very good. I'm not sure I'm good enough to get that 50p super-duper-combo achievement though.

Posting here as, somehow, unbelievably, some people have still not played Arkham Asylum. I know, I know. :nottalking:
Some older games, they get dated (graphically technically; gameplay-wise; UI-wise; whatever) - and it's dated so badly, you just can't play it in the modern-era.

Some games, they can just stand the test of time.

I think Arkham series does stand that test of time.

When a game comes along...gets something so right and/or does things so differently - and it all works, you get something ranging from good to great. I think Arkham Asylum + Arkham City are both great. Asylum had the fresh-ness of its mechanics, while I think Arkham City improved by...adding the kitchen sink and making the game more open in some ways, TBH. That series' combat system was imitated by other games (i.e. see Sleeping Dogs, in which that was a great twist on a GTA-style game) - so that's already a sign of how great those two Arkham games were when others are copying it and/or also trying to take that combat-system plus toss their own spin onto it.

And that's not even getting into how Arkham series actually got so much of the actual Batman so right (story, gameplay, immersion into the universe), when...well, many Batman games in recent years really didn't get it right.

Back to the topic of playing games on time, late, and/or the feeling of a game possibly being dated - I think this can be different for many people, especially depending on when they originally play the game. Hopefully, it's a lot closer to when it actually came out. B/c when you do a replay way later, you can be more forgiving - b/c you know how it played "back in the day".

For example...

I think some people could have trouble getting into some games mixing FPS or TPS elements w/ RPG elements. A lot of these games - they didn't rely so heavily on the actual shooter elements, they relied more on the RPG stuff. While the had the shooter style of controls for feel + gameplay - they also relied heavily on Level, Stats, Skills, and especially on "dice-rolls."

Vampire: Bloodlines could be one b/c its combat by today's standards, is a bit clunky + dated, especially if they didn't play it back when it came out - it doesn't really do combat nowhere as great as some others that try to mix RPG and action elements (see Mass Effect 2 + 3). But for a RPG, back when it came out - its combat was great...and games mixing RPG, action, and even some FPS elements.

Honestly - I think Mass Effect 2 + 3 did ruin combat for games mixing RPG + heavy shooting elements for many - which could expose a classic like Deus Ex 1 (you can be more forgiving w/ that b/c it's much older) + Alpha Protocol (somewhat more recent title that could feel dated, especially since it came out after Mass Effect 2).

 
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I don't know about you lot, but I've been revisiting Batman: Arkham Asylum for the Playfire achievements. That game is five years old and still better than most of the stuff I've played over the last year.
It's still very, very good. I'm not sure I'm good enough to get that 50p super-duper-combo achievement though.

Posting here as, somehow, unbelievably, some people have still not played Arkham Asylum. I know, I know. :nottalking:
I thought asylum was better than city
 
I don't know about you lot, but I've been revisiting Batman: Arkham Asylum for the Playfire achievements. That game is five years old and still better than most of the stuff I've played over the last year.

It's still very, very good. I'm not sure I'm good enough to get that 50p super-duper-combo achievement though.

Posting here as, somehow, unbelievably, some people have still not played Arkham Asylum. I know, I know. :nottalking:
I revisited it when the Steamworks conversion happened and got all the achievements. I'm now playing through Origins, clunky and buggy as it is.

And that super duper combo achievement is easy to do in one of the advanced challenge stages - just keep vaulting over everyone to set up the attacks. Your combo won't end if you keep jumping over people.

 
RE: IndieBox

At first I thought it was pretty silly too, shelling out $15+ for an indie game that's probably been bundled, with a few gimmicky toys/memorabilia but after reading what one of their store reps said in the reddit thread, gave me a better perspective.

So basically us cheapasses aren't the target audience, but if you want to pay $17 for a random games collectors edition, it's not bad, considering most collectors edition for new console/pc games has a $20+ markup over the regular version.
I wanted to buy the Escape Goat 2 CE but I was broke. That CD. ;_;

 
I revisited it when the Steamworks conversion happened and got all the achievements. I'm now playing through Origins, clunky and buggy as it is.

And that super duper combo achievement is easy to do in one of the advanced challenge stages - just keep vaulting over everyone to set up the attacks. Your combo won't end if you keep jumping over people.
I liked Batman: Arkham Origins, but that game IMHO is NOT even close to the two previous Batman Arkham games from Rocksteady.

 
I liked Batman: Arkham Origins, but that game IMHO is NOT even close to the two previous Batman Arkham games from Rocksteady.
I think it'll annoy me for that exact reason so I'm not buying unless it gets bundled.

The Arkhams are the kind of games I'm happy to tell non-gaming friends about, they're that good.
 
Wrong. Origins had the same gameplay and a better story than City.
Origins gameplay-wise felt like "more of the same" w/ very few new tweaks, changes + additions.

Also, on the new villains - I think some of those characters (especially lesser known villains) could've been fleshed-out quite a bit more + some of the story felt predictable to me. I think they squandered some opportunities on the story, as well - things that just should've hit me, didn't.

Also, how many times is...

<Arkham series spoiler>

...The Joker going to be the main villain in these games?

I love The Joker character and have no problem w/ him showing-up - but my God, does it always have to be him being the main villain? Can someone else shine + lead as the bad-ass villain?

 
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I think it'll annoy me for that exact reason so I'm not buying unless it gets bundled.

The Arkhams are the kind of games I'm happy to tell non-gaming friends about, they're that good.
I think Batman: AO is easily worth the $5 or so that I spent on it.

It feels honestly like a big expansion pack to Arkham City, in so many ways. If you think you'd be fine w/ that - enjoy!

While I think Origins is the worst game in the Batman: Arkham series so far - that's not a bad thing b/c I do think it's still actually good.

Certainly nothing wrong w/ that - especially if you don't spend the farm on this game...which you shouldn't, since it has been cheap before.

It's just...the other two previous Rocksteady-developed Batman Arkham games were both freaking great + felt a lot more fresher than the "more of the same" Origins was throwing-up.

 
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I liked Batman: Arkham Origins, but that game IMHO is NOT even close to the two previous Batman Arkham games from Rocksteady.
Oh, it isn't. The combat is fine, but a bunch of things just feel off. The fact that so many special moves are locked behind stupid trials that have nothing to do with the main story is annoying too.

Wrong. Origins had the same gameplay and a better story than City.
Ha. Hell no. I like Origins' story, but City was better, and the gameplay in Origins feels weird. The changed audio cues when someone gets hit / is knocked out also threw me off for a while. The boss fights I've had so far were fun as hell, I'll give it that, but the other stuff feels halfassed.

 
Origins gameplay-wise felt like "more of the same" w/ very few new tweaks, changes + additions.

Also, on the new villains - I think some of those characters (especially lesser known villains) could've been fleshed-out quite a bit more + some of the story felt predictable to me. I think they squandered some opportunities on the story, as well - things that just should've hit me, didn't.
I think Origins is the better game hands down. Origins combat was faster and more fluid and though the story wasn't Shakespeare, I still thought it was easily better and more entertaining than City's. Asylum is still the best of the three to me though.

All that aside, hopefully the teasers at the end of Origins and Blackgate hinting at a Suicide Squad game will actually amount to something.

 
RE: IndieBox

I'm an old gamer and I love big boxes. That beign said, that box (from the video) was awful. I have some old boxes and those were great, this one is... not. I have no problem paying $20 or wathever, but THAT box is not worth at all. Also, if they included a steam/GOG/AnyOtherDigitalStore code TOO, it will be better.

Just my opinion

 
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RE: IndieBox

I'm an old gamer and I love big boxes. That beign said, that box (from the video) was awful. I have some old boxes and those were great, this one is... not. I have no problem paying $20 or wathever, but THAT box is not worth at all. Also, if they included a steam/GOG/AnyOtherDigitalStore code TOO, it will be better.

Just my opinion
FWIW they say they give Steam keys for games that are on Steam but don't guarantee that all of their featured games will be on Steam in the future.

The other thing is to borrow a cliche from the console side of CAG, shipping kills it, particularly if you are outside the US where the shipping rates will be substantial.

 
Ha. Hell no. I like Origins' story, but City was better, and the gameplay in Origins feels weird. The changed audio cues when someone gets hit / is knocked out also threw me off for a while. The boss fights I've had so far were fun as hell, I'll give it that, but the other stuff feels halfassed.
Agreed on the boss fights.

I think the boss fights were one of the things that I really thought were actually really good + "fun as hell" (as you put it) in Origins.

For me, that's one of the things that really-really stood out here, for sure.

 
RE: IndieBox

I'm an old gamer and I love big boxes. That beign said, that box (from the video) was awful. I have some old boxes and those were great, this one is... not. I have no problem paying $20 or wathever, but THAT box is not worth at all. Also, if they included a steam/GOG/AnyOtherDigitalStore code TOO, it will be better.

Just my opinion
Speaking of older CE's in big boxes I still have my BG2 CE complete with all the goodies!

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MysterD thanks for using spoilers. Believe it or not, that is a game sitting in the old backlog. I know I know, it's incredible, I really need to get around to it etc. Problem is I also need to get around to all the rpgs from my hiatus. That list includes kotor 2, morrowind, oblivion, FO 3, FO: NV, Dragon Age, dragon age 2. I also have Vampire Bloodlines which I've never played and need to get around to. I think there may be a couple of other rpgs in there but I think that covers the big ones.

Tell me CAG what should I play after shadowrun returns: dragonfall, which I recommend you all get next time it goes on sale. Preferably for around $5.
 
Speaking of older CE's in big boxes I still have my BG2 CE complete with all the goodies!

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Cool CE!

I don't have very many CE's - most of 'em, I've bought dirt-cheap.

If people ain't played any of the Baldur's Gate games from BioWare - i.e. BG1 + Tales of the Sword Coast & BG2: SoA + ToB - they really should get onto that pronto.

For very strategic party-controlling RPG's, it's one of the best series.

A lot of those old Infinity Engine games were fantastic.

If you loved DA: Origins + missed BG series - you owe it to yourself to take on the BG series.

Vice versa, as well - if you loved BG series and missed DAO, get on that pronto!

 
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Tell me CAG what should I play after shadowrun returns: dragonfall, which I recommend you all get next time it goes on sale. Preferably for around $5.
Vampire would be a good change of pace but sticking with the RPG theme.

Or, if you have it, Divinity: Original Sin. I'm hooked on it right now.

 
I had the BG1 box with all the goodies... And sold it. One of my biggest mistakes from back then, don't know why I did it
 
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MysterD thanks for using spoilers. Believe it or not, that is a game sitting in the old backlog. I know I know, it's incredible, I really need to get around to it etc.
You're talking about Batman: AO, right?

Problem is I also need to get around to all the rpgs from my hiatus. That list includes kotor 2, morrowind, oblivion, FO 3, FO: NV, Dragon Age, dragon age 2. I also have Vampire Bloodlines which I've never played and need to get around to. I think there may be a couple of other rpgs in there but I think that covers the big ones.
Tell me CAG what should I play after shadowrun returns: dragonfall, which I recommend you all get next time it goes on sale. Preferably for around $5.
Space out a lot of those RPG's because those all are LONG - i.e. 50 hours or more. Especially even more so true for games within the same series. Can get monotonous, w/ games that are very similar in style + games that are very long-winded, playing one after another in a row.

i.e. Don't play KOTOR 1 then right after blaze into KOTOR 2;

Don't play FO3 then right after play FO:NV;

Don't play DA:O and then right after it go after DA2.

You get the drift.

 
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I couldn't even play DA:O and then the expansion right after it cause I was so fed up with the game by that point.
I don't recommend that, either.

Play DAO - then get away from it. That one took me around 100 hours or so.

Then way later, take on Awakening...since that's another 30 hours

 
I Need to play bg2 one of these days. Played 1 last year and really enjoYed it
That's another 50-100 hours plus type of game.

Another one I don't recommend playing one after another.

Especially from BG2 to TOB.

TOB is long, as well - so long, I could even have seen people calling it BG3.

Great series.

 
LogiGun steam keys are up on Indie Royale if you bought the Debut 3 Bundle

Steel & Steam steam keys are up on Groupees if you bought the Steampunk Groupee 2 bundle.

Terrorhedron Steam keys are up on the Desura client and IR page for The Apollo Bundle.

 
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I'd like to try out dual pistols, but they seem like a pain to get. Don't you have to craft two different (or the same) pistols then combine those and buy ANOTHER blueprint? I don't get it.

I was actually looking at Ash. Destiny has stolen my gaming time for now, but I'll probably work towards that Warframe first once the beta ends.
Totally depends, most of the credit ones from the market require you to build/have the pistols like you said and then craft the dual version but some don't (mostly from clan research). One of the things that people do is build a single version of something, rank that to 30, then build another and make dual versions of it - ranking up weapons/frame contributes to your char's mastery rank, allowing you to use rank-locked weapons (and other bonuses, like improved trade per day amounts, etc) - so doing it this way gives you the best bang for your buck.

You can get Rhino first, it will help you get the others - he's pretty much easy mode soloing.

 
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MysterD thanks for using spoilers. Believe it or not, that is a game sitting in the old backlog. I know I know, it's incredible, I really need to get around to it etc. Problem is I also need to get around to all the rpgs from my hiatus. That list includes kotor 2, morrowind, oblivion, FO 3, FO: NV, Dragon Age, dragon age 2. I also have Vampire Bloodlines which I've never played and need to get around to. I think there may be a couple of other rpgs in there but I think that covers the big ones.

Tell me CAG what should I play after shadowrun returns: dragonfall, which I recommend you all get next time it goes on sale. Preferably for around $5.
You'll probably be burnt out on tactical RPGs by the time you've finished Shadowrun, or I'd say Dragon Age. That's one of the best games of the list you've got. Maybe go with one of the first person games you've got there... but come right back and do DA!

 
Winter Wolves y u no giv lesbian ver of Nicole?

I'm sure it will be an add on or seperate version later that he charges extra for.
 
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U fukin wot m8? Ill sock ya in the gabber swear on me mum.

Nah, you're right tho. I saw this posted on GAF and jumped the gun. I still think it will come to PC because I want to believe.
They've been better about doing PC ports in general, but the only fighting game series they've ported to PC thus far is Naruto (was probably an experiment because it's a guaranteed hit they can afford to lose some money on).

Is it possible? Absolutely, and I hope it's true.

It's a shame no DBZ fighting games ever got ported to PC though, the new one isn't being ported to PC either. :whistle2:(

She's right. The technical term is "schlicking", not fapping.

The more you know! :mrgreen:

You're all slacking by the way. Why has no one mentioned this? :shame:

You get free stuff from joining the official Payday 2 group on Steam. The more people who join, the more stuff group members get (mostly free DLC for Payday 2)

One of the rewards is a free copy of the original Payday during one day in October (much like the Sniper Elite V2/Left 4 Dead 2 free day). Makes me feel a little silly for buying it during the summer sale, but oh well.

Also, there's been a spotting of Arkham Origins: Complete Edition. Looks like patience may finally pay off.

 
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Been playing Ace Combat Assault Horizon. The game is 100% Arcade, that's not a bad thing but... missions are too long each. There are checkpoints, but missions can turn very repetitive because its length. I've played 3 kind of missions: plane, gunner and chopper, glad they were very different and fun (at least for a while). Will try it again later, because I think one should play it in short/medium bursts. I won't buy the game because it doesn't have much replayability and I think I'll be done with it through the weekend.

Now I'm back to New Vegas ;)

 
I got tired of getting murdered by walking clams in Dark Souls so I went back to Batman Arkham Origins, and I just completed it. Gonna find the Enigma stuff I missed out and clear the two missing criminals from my list now.

I am not looking forward to the mutliplayer achievements though. I hate those. :(

 
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The only game I've played to 100% on more than one platform (Steam & 360; all of the cheevos+challenges). Some of the mechanics are sadly absent from the later entries (the multi-grapple, and throwing during combat removed in favor of "special" takedowns), but Arkham City's/Origin's faster combat makes the combat in Asylum wayyyyyyyy easier to manage. Not sure if you'll have time to cut your teeth on the sequels, but if you ever decide to go back and 100% Asylum it certainly helps.
Finally someone else who comments that AC combat is significantly easier than AA combat!

I revisited it when the Steamworks conversion happened and got all the achievements. I'm now playing through Origins, clunky and buggy as it is.

And that super duper combo achievement is easy to do in one of the advanced challenge stages - just keep vaulting over everyone to set up the attacks. Your combo won't end if you keep jumping over people.
Oh wow. That sounds like DmC before the big patch... where one could constantly evade to keep a combo going. Thankfully they patched that.

 
Finally someone else who comments that AC combat is significantly easier than AA combat!

Oh wow. That sounds like DmC before the big patch... where one could constantly evade to keep a combo going. Thankfully they patched that.
Vaulting over enemies to keep the combo going has been a feature of all three Arkham games. You can't do it forever - you CAN be hit if you're not careful, and if you do it for too long the combo will end. It's useful if you need a one or two second breather to get your bearings and to find your next target.

 
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Vaulting over enemies to keep the combo going has been a feature of all three Arkham games. You can't do it forever - you CAN be hit if you're not careful, and if you do it for too long the combo will end. It's useful if you need a one or two second breather to get your bearings and to find your next target.
^_^ Thanks. I'm familiar with AA & AC, and I thought you were pointing out an issue with AO.

 
I got tired of getting murdered by walking clams in Dark Souls so I went back to Batman Arkham Origins, and I just completed it. Gonna find the Enigma stuff I missed out and clear the two missing criminals from my list now.

I am not looking forward to the mutliplayer achievements though. I hate those. :(
Multiplayer in Origins is crap. I haven't played a game as Batman where I felt less like a badass since this was a thing. I got tired of it really quickly.

 
You're talking about Batman: AO, right?

<snipped advice about spacing sequels and types and what not.>
Asylum actually. Was your spoiler regarding origins? Well either way I haven't played any in the series Got out of gaming for about 8 years or so and was pretty much nintendo console prior to that.

I figured don't follow up immediately with sequels. Though I did go straight from BG 2 to ToB. I am also the type that loves mods. I ran BG 2 w a crap load and had a blast. I just wish it was easier to configure. I hear with the nexus thing it's dead simple for most elder scrolls and the new fallout games.

Right now, I'm leaning towards the older stuff with graphic mods and ease of use/ui mods. That way its slightly prettier and I won't as irritated at some older gameplay restraints as I might be upon coming back to them from newer stuff. I know Vampire and Kotor 2 have had extensive content restored by the fan community, probably irrating to configure the mods but doable. I wish there were really good 360 controller profiles for them though.

Divinity original sin is on my radar for co op but not until my buddy actually gets reliable net. By that time I should be through one or two games hopefully and it'll have a discount for the autumn sale.

I figure I have enough rpgs here I could easily make it last a full year and a half to two years even if I really committed myself to a couple hours a day.
 
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