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endergeek123 said:
It will be interesting to see how opinions change for the people spending more time with Destiny. For the first 5 or 10 hours I would have given it a 7 or an 8. With 27 hours in it now it's easily a 9 for me and I'm only enjoying my time more
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I actually was bored the first few hours. Probably because I had seen most if not all of it in the Alpha and Beta. As I moved off of Earth it got much better for me. Not a great story or anything but lots of fun as a FPS and the only MP I have tried so far is Control and liked that well enough. Probably be the first game in like 10 months I wasn't racing through so I could trade it back to Best Buy for $44. I think I will be hanging on to this for a while longer.

 
affa said:
fucking velocity 2x plat.

overall, i actually had an easy time of it except 47, which nearly broke me.

overall tips:

1) touch tele is your friend
2) drag throw tele pod is your friend
3) for level 50, rubber band your right trigger so you don't need to gank your hand boosting (i recommend this for velocity ultra too)
4) touch tele is your friend... on level 50 (except one small area).

dammit, looks like handsomepete already got his. that makes me 4th?
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so weird, I once again found touch teleport useless, just like in velocity ultra. I used it two times - once in 50 (to make the long teleport from the left all the way to the right) and once in I think 42 just because.

not sure what drag throw telepod is, but something tells me I'll wish I did. throwing those telepods with the pyramid button + analog stick was pretty frustrating.

and yeah, I mailed it one day before you. tyler may cock block you on 4th place though because he has a raging hard on for rules and I didn't see your name listed in the official participants.
 
handsomepete said:
so weird, I once again found touch teleport useless, just like in velocity ultra. I used it two times - once in 50 (to make the long teleport from the left all the way to the right) and once in I think 42 just because.

not sure what drag throw telepod is, but something tells me I'll wish I did. throwing those telepods with the pyramid button + analog stick was pretty frustrating.

and yeah, I mailed it one day before you. tyler may cock block you on 4th place though because he has a raging hard on for rules and I didn't see your name listed in the official participants.
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But Champ's name isn't listed among the official participants, either, and he got 2nd place.

 
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My coworker that I sit next to is on a conference call.  I come back to my desk and the only thing I hear is "take this massive dump".

I think he was talking about a dump of data into excel.  I hope.

TGIF

 
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New J-Lo/ Iggy Azalea video. 

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Vigilante said:
Zodiac, a new JRPG, is coming to Vita: http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/09/19/tgs-2014-introducing-zodiac-a-new-jrpg-for-ps-vita

Hitoshi Sakamoto (Tactics Ogre, Final Fantasy Tactics, Dragon's Crown, FF XII) will be the composer, and Kazushige Nojima (FF VII, FF VIII, FF X, Kingdom Hearts, KH II, and more) will be a chief writer.

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Daaaaaaaaaaang. :drool:
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My first instinct when I read the title was that it was going to be a JRPG about the Zodiac Killler and I thought "that's different and in slightly poor taste, but I'd probably play it."

 
pharmacrest said:
My coworker that I sit next to is on a conference call. I come back to my desk and the only thing I hear is "take this massive dump".

I think he was talking about a dump of data into excel. I hope.

TGIF
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Remember how you had a "reply to all" disaster at your work recently? My company is now having one about a black cat. And it goes on. And on. And on.
 
If anyone here happens to have Watch Dogs PS4 and wants to work on the Traced trophy, let me know.  It seems like it is almost impossible to get legit since people mainly only do hacks and not tails when doing the online.  I am not sure I have been tailed a single time and I played the entire game with online mode on.  At least they added friend tailing with the patch so you can get it that way.

 
Finished Assassin's Creed 1 late last night so let's go down the line:

*Out-of-Animus story, more entertaining than the sequel, but the story ultimately amounted to the same plot point "buy the next Assassin's Creed to possibly, maybe, but not really get answers to your end questions."

*In Animus story I also liked a bit better, the character is a bit of a dick frustrated with order bureaucracy whereas AC2 is pretty much your standard, fresh-face newbie takes up arms because they murder your .

*Cities were better in Assassin's Creed 1, they felt more organic even if at times it was to the detriment of movement throughout the city as it would be in real life.

*Combat, pretty much the same. You get a few new tricks in the sequel but it boils down to the same "walk up behind and blade in back" or "be surrounded by 5-6 of X guards as they attack you one at a time-ish in repetitive sword fighting. I don't think they really improved the combat that much in AC2, they just were able to break it up by adding other, non-combat related things for you to do like the tomb's platforming sections, building up your town, etc..

It's pretty clear they had no idea how to end it though, as before the last few bosses they just drop like 70 enemies at you in a gauntlet which isn't challenging, since no matter how many enemies are present there is only room for 5-7 to surround you at a time, it's just hella annoying and time consuming.

People made it seem like there was a quantum leap in quality between AC and AC2, but there were just a few iterative improvements and some things the original does better. Final rating: Not as bad a advertised.

 
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guardian_owl said:
He-man, then Ninja Turtles, then Ducktales, Talespin, and Darkwing Duck and then my holy trinity of 80's adventure TV heroes: Knight Rider, Macgyver, and Quantum Leap.
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I fuck ing loved Quantum Leap and you almost forgot the A-Team!

Corgstradamus said:
Dude do you know what happens at the end of David the Gnome?
Him and his wife fucking die in the last episode
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David the Gnome
is dead!
Say it aint so! WTF!?

 
Holy shit, according to Engadget, Microsoft said they plan to recoup the $2.5 billion spent on Minecraft in FY15. They're currently in FY15 and the deal won't close untitled he end of the year. Which means they're expecting to make that money back in about six months. I really think they've gone full retard on this one.
 
I finished The Amazing Spider-Man on Vita (thought it was solid consider it was a port of the PS3 version). I'm starting to realize with a game like that you might as well start on "hard" if you want to platinum it. My bad. What should I play next on Vita?

Injustice: Gods Among Us
LEGO Batman 2
Sly 3
Stealth Inc: A Clone In The Dark
Steamworld Dig

I also have some good Plus offerings like Dragon's Crown and 2X but I figure I should finish what I actually paid for first.

 
ProfessorStotch said:
Holy shit, according to Engadget, Microsoft said they plan to recoup the $2.5 billion spent on Minecraft in FY15. They're currently in FY15 and the deal won't close untitled he end of the year. Which means they're expecting to make that money back in about six months. I really think they've gone full retard on this one.
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Haha wow the author of that article is a fucking retard.

Based on actually researching that weird and audacious claim (something the author apparently felt was unnecessary) I'm pretty sure by "break-even by GAAP principles", Microsoft means that they will bring in as much income from Mojang/Minecraft in FY 2015 as they would if they didn't use that money to purchase Mojang and just left it in the bank and gain interest.

Minecraft bringing in 2.5 billion in one year is ridiculous. Nobody should ever actually think that is possible.

 
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While I do not believe that MS will get its money back next year (if ever), you have to remember that Minecraft is not just about video games now. There are a ton of other things like toys, clothing, etc.

 
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Hey Stotch (and other Destinyeers), are you/which faction are you in?  I was not even aware of them until I looked at some link you posted recently.  Wondering if I should equip one of those faction items before playing a little at lunch today.

 
I'm going to go ahead and quote the full article since Engadget will probably pull it down because it's so stupid, in case anyone actually wants to read it.

Microsoft announced this week that it's buying hugely popular game franchise Minecraft for $2.5 billion. For that money, Microsoft gets rights to the game and ownership of its Stockholm, Sweden-based development studio, Mojang. It doesn't retain the company's founders or Minecraft's infamously outspoken creator, Markus "Notch" Persson.
 
Does that sound like a lot, $2.5 billion? Well, it is in human dollars, but not so much when you're Microsoft and you've got $85 billion in "cash, cash equivalents and short-term investments." Regardless of the fact that this week's deal only cost Microsoft around 3 percent of the money it has on-hand, here's the real kicker (in the form of a statement from Microsoft): "Microsoft expects the acquisition to be break-even in FY15 on a GAAP basis." Woof, that's a doozy of a sentence right there.
 
Here's the translation: Microsoft expects the purchase of Minecraft/Mojang to have made back the $2.5 billion it cost by July 1, 2015. And that is why Microsoft bought Minecraft.
 
Admittedly, that's a rough translation of all that Microsoft's saying in that jargon-filled sentence. And it's a crucial statement in the several-paragraphs-long press release that announced the deal. So let's break it down, piece by piece!
 
"Microsoft expects the acquisition to be break-even ..."
This one sounds simple, but there's a lot of information in there. First and foremost, "Microsoft expects" is a heavily abridged way of saying, "Microsoft lawyers and accountants painstakingly went over the past financials of Mojang and projected earnings for the next two to five years. After doing that work, we expect these results." Companies don't "expect" anything they haven't deliberately calculated. This is not a guess; it's an equation.
 
The middle bit -- "the acquisition" -- is simply referring to the purchase of Minecraft and Mojang for $2.5 billion. Nothing hidden there.
 
The last bit, however, is especially important. "To be break-even" is to say, "Minecraft and Mojang will recoup the money Microsoft spent on them: $2.5 billion." That's a serious claim, and the seriousness is just getting started.
 
"... in FY15 ..."
Okay, bear with me -- this isn't as complex as it sounds. "In FY15" directly translates to "in Fiscal Year 2015." To understand what that means, we have to understand how Microsoft's fiscal year works (surprise: It's not the same as the calendar year the rest of us exist in). Microsoft's fiscal year begins on July 1st and ends on June 30th, every year. Despite it being calendar year 2014, Microsoft's in fiscal year 2015 right now. So!
 
"Minecraft and Mojang will recoup the money Microsoft spent on them: $2.5 billion."
If Microsoft is in "FY15" right now, and the company's fiscal year ends on June 30th, Microsoft expects to recoup $2.5 billion solely from Minecraft/Mojang by June 30, 2015. That is a serious amount of money from a single property in a relatively short period. How short of a period? The deal is expected to close by the end of 2014; if I'm incredibly generous and say it theoretically closes tomorrow, that's only nine months (between tomorrow and June 30, 2015).
 
"... on a GAAP basis ..."
This is perhaps the most jargon-y bit, but it's another important component. "GAAP" is an acronym for "Generally Accepted Accounting Principles", which means, "the federal standard for accounting." It sets a baseline for consistency across industries in financial reporting. This modifier means that the $2.5 billion Microsoft expects to recoup by mid-2015 can't include anything that isn't directly accountable. Most importantly, it's a measure of confidence -- it means that Microsoft doesn't need to couch any of its financial reporting around the purchase. It's a way of reassuring investors that, hey, this is going to make money. Don't worry, investment firm, if you don't understand video games.
 
MORE THAN JUST GAMES
 
So, where's that $2.5 billion going to come from? Mojang makes a few other games (Scrolls, for instance), but nothing anywhere near as significant (financially or otherwise) as Minecraft. That's okay: Mojang's gotten very good at expanding Minecraft into a franchise and property. The game itself is available virtually everywhere. Both Microsoft and Sony dedicated precious press conference time to say the game would arrive on their current game consoles. For a game that originally "launched" in 2011, that's unheard of. It's outright something that doesn't happen.
 
In the last 24 hours, roughly 7,500 copies sold on PC/Mac: worth around $200,000.
There's a mobile version on both iOS and Android. You can play it on Fire TV! Sure, why not. It is quite literally available on every major game platform, with the exception of Nintendo's consoles and the PlayStation Vita (it's in development). And yes, it is super, super weird that Microsoft will now be the publisher of a game on competing platforms. Head of Xbox Phil Spencer explicitly says in the acquisition announcement that, "We plan to continue to make Minecraft available across platforms -- including iOS, Android and PlayStation, in addition to Xbox and PC."
 
There aren't accurate measurements for the game's sales across all those platforms on an ongoing basis, but the official Minecraft site keeps a statistic of the game's PC/Mac sales across the past 24 hours (in perpetuity). In the last 24 hours, roughly 7,500 copies sold on PC/Mac: worth around $200,000. That's approximately $73 million across one year, on just PC/Mac. When I checked last Saturday, it had sold just shy of 15,000 copies in the previous 24 hours.
 
And that's to say nothing of merchandising (which there is a considerable amount of), or licensing (also considerable), or the annual convention (appropriately titled MineCon). Also, bizarrely, Microsoft acquires all the financial assets of Mojang as well in the process -- that's to say Microsoft gets money from Mojang in the acquisition. Whatever money Mojang had on-hand goes to Microsoft, and that could be considerable. Considerable enough that it outright offsets the $2.5 billion? Perhaps. Mojang was a privately owned company, and none of those numbers are public.
 
MINECRAFT'S CULTURAL IMPACT
 
Anyone who's been to a mall or walked down a touristy block in Manhattan lately knows the cultural impact of Minecraft: T-shirts and Creeper heads are commonplace at tchotchke stands the world over. More importantly, however, is that millions of children grew up with (and are still growing up with) Minecraft. Its iconic characters (main character/silent protagonist Steve and the hilariously explosive Creeper enemy), distinct visual style and -- most of all -- unlimited potential for creativity left a lasting impact on both the game industry and a generation of kids.
 
The next time you attend a Minecraft-themed kids birthday party, think about this acquisition. Minecraft is Mario for millions of kids, and that's a very big deal. Microsoft stands to make many more billions, as the arbiter of a beloved franchise, than the $2.5 billion it's shelling out this year.
 
-Ben Gilbert
 
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If Mojang expected that they could have made $2.5 billion in the next 9 months, why the fuck would they sell the company for $2.5 billion? They would have sold it for like $15 billion or much more!!!

You don't sell you entire company based on one year of expected profits.

 
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jkam said:
I finished The Amazing Spider-Man on Vita (thought it was solid consider it was a port of the PS3 version). I'm starting to realize with a game like that you might as well start on "hard" if you want to platinum it. My bad. What should I play next on Vita?

Injustice: Gods Among Us
LEGO Batman 2
Sly 3
Stealth Inc: A Clone In The Dark
Steamworld Dig

I also have some good Plus offerings like Dragon's Crown and 2X but I figure I should finish what I actually paid for first.
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I recently played through Injustice. Quite a bit of fun even if I'm not big on fighting games. The plat is a bitch and will take you forever, though, so something to consider if that's what you're looking for.

 
micbelt said:
While I do not believe that MS will get its money back next year (if ever), you have to remember that Minecraft is not just about video games now. There are a ton of other things like toys, clothing, etc.
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This.

Getting to be akin to star wars, yea the movies made some money but really its all about the merch.

 
munkywawa said:
Hey Stotch (and other Destinyeers), are you/which faction are you in? I was not even aware of them until I looked at some link you posted recently. Wondering if I should equip one of those faction items before playing a little at lunch today.
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I did the one that has gear that makes your melee and super recharge faster. up the stairs in the hanger area.

I put it on in crucible and leave it off if doing anything else to get the normal vanguard up.

 
kilik64 said:
I did the one that has gear that makes your melee and super recharge faster. up the stairs in the hanger area.

I put it on in crucible and leave it off if doing anything else to get the normal vanguard up.
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Fastest way to get it up I think is play crucible and try and get 2-3 crucible bounties done.

 
munkywawa said:
Hey Stotch (and other Destinyeers), are you/which faction are you in? I was not even aware of them until I looked at some link you posted recently. Wondering if I should equip one of those faction items before playing a little at lunch today.
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Last night when playing with kilik64 and laundrymatt they were talking about this but I missed the details. I have to figure this out later as well. I went back to the Tower and couldn't figure it out.

 
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jimbo8574 said:
Last night when playing with kilik64 and laundrymatt they were talking about this but I missed the details. I have to figure this out later as well. I went back to the Tower and couldn't figure it out.
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I get off work early today at 3pm cst, plan to try and hop on for a bit, if I see you on Ill join up and show you whats up if you still need help.

 
handsomepete said:
and yeah, I mailed it one day before you. tyler may cock block you on 4th place though because he has a raging hard on for rules and I didn't see your name listed in the official participants.
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It would be really nice if those competing would vote in the poll to announce they're competing, but it's not an actual rule.

 
jimbo8574 said:
Last night when playing with kilik64 and laundrymatt they were talking about this but I missed the details. I have to figure this out later as well. I went back to the Tower and couldn't figure it out.
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Yeah, I was surprised that when you talk to the map robot in the tower, the 3 faction guys show up on the map. I bought an item from one of them, but I'm still not really clear on what I stop getting when I have it equipped. Marks? XP? Vanguard/crucible levels?

 
munkywawa said:
Hey Stotch (and other Destinyeers), are you/which faction are you in? I was not even aware of them until I looked at some link you posted recently. Wondering if I should equip one of those faction items before playing a little at lunch today.
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I'm not going to get into one yet, but I was thinking of joining Dead Orbit when I do since they seem to always have good auto rifles and armor that enhances auto rifles.

I'm going to get my crucible/vanguard up to level 3 before joining a faction.

And tody I got my first legendary! Aaaaand it was an item for another class. fuck you cryptarch!
 
affa said:
All 50 are perfects. Just need to find/do the bonus missions for the plat.

Level 48/49 were cake. Level 50 had one hard area (where you need to 'slow' one ship while boosting) but once i had that down i had no problems. 47 can still go fuck itself. 7 minute mission. ugh.

will have plat tonight or tomorrow, depending on whether i decide to do collectables.

what place will i come in?
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4th, but I still don't remember how the points breakdowns work.

 
affa said:
All 50 are perfects. Just need to find/do the bonus missions for the plat.

Level 48/49 were cake. Level 50 had one hard area (where you need to 'slow' one ship while boosting) but once i had that down i had no problems. 47 can still go fuck itself. 7 minute mission. ugh.

will have plat tonight or tomorrow, depending on whether i decide to do collectables.

what place will i come in?
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Oh and I do need to see a link to your gamercard to verify it.

 
munkywawa said:
Hey Stotch (and other Destinyeers), are you/which faction are you in? I was not even aware of them until I looked at some link you posted recently. Wondering if I should equip one of those faction items before playing a little at lunch today.
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I joined FWC because their armor focuses on super and grenade regen. I currently have the bond equipped for everything so I can get my rank up as quickly as possible to buy the gear and then I'll go back to working on Vanguard rank.
 
munkywawa said:
Yeah, I was surprised that when you talk to the map robot in the tower, the 3 faction guys show up on the map. I bought an item from one of them, but I'm still not really clear on what I stop getting when I have it equipped. Marks? XP? Vanguard/crucible levels?
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You stop getting Vanguard/Crucible levels while you have it equipped.
 
munkywawa said:
Yeah, I was surprised that when you talk to the map robot in the tower, the 3 faction guys show up on the map. I bought an item from one of them, but I'm still not really clear on what I stop getting when I have it equipped. Marks? XP? Vanguard/crucible levels?
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You stop getting vanguard points.

Vanguard points give you vanguard levels to buy vanguard gear.

the factions replace those points and you get levels with them. Still takes crucible marks to buy stuff but you have to get to level 2 faction (vanguard points) to buy stuff with your crucible marks.

 
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jkam said:
Why is this one private?

EDIT: Oh competing...thought you meant the futurama poll.
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I know Tyler already explained that it was a mistake that the futurama poll is private, but I wish it was public so that I could know who all the dummies in this thread are who don't watch or like it.

Really it should just be a public poll of

"Is futurama the best?

A) Is the space pope reptilian?

B) No, I'm stupid"

 
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