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Picked up the 10m in evolved Retro trophy this morning by the skin of my teeth (I think I had ~10,070,000 when I died).  Geometry Wars plat is now just 3 x 3-starred coop levels (and all 10 of them 3-starred again) and a few hours of farming away.

 
Which? They look like ants? That took me a number of tries for some reason. Seemed like I did it right a few times before it triggered.
That's the one. I always left like one or two little bad guys even though they were in my blast radius. Finally just said fuckit and I'm moving on. At least that level I had to play over and over was the best of the game. Tried extinction mode briefly and I already don't like it. So I'm done with the game. Enjoyed it more than I thought I would.
 
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That's the one. I always left like one or two little bad guys even though they were in my blast radius. Finally just said fuckit and I'm moving on. At least that level I had to play over and over was the best of the game. Tried extinction mode briefly and I already don't like it. So I'm done with the game. Enjoyed it more than I thought I would.
Yeah, it wasn't a bad level at all. Doesn't take but about five minutes to get to the trophy section either.

How did you play Extinction Mode? With randoms?

 
Yeah, it wasn't a bad level at all. Doesn't take but about five minutes to get to the trophy section either.

How did you play Extinction Mode? With randoms?
Naw I just did it solo offline. I'm sure with actual people it could be ok. But I don't really want to play with other people.
 
Playstation Now subscription pricing announced. $19.99 for 1 month or $44.99 for 3 months.

After glancing at the titles there's a lot of overlap between stuff we've gotten with PS+ previously. If someone was late to Plus they could catch up on quite a few titles that way. Otherwise it's about on par with GameFly.
 
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Serious question time.

So I just pmed gator the online pass code for Burning Skies and I have it locked in for trade at Amazon.

Should I leave the slip the code is on in the case so whoever buys it gets the code and gets all excited there is the code in it, and then gets really bummed out when it doesnt work?

Or should I toss the slip?
I always take the slips out when I trade them. Not sure why though.

 
I always take the slips out when I trade them. Not sure why though.
The only reason I'd keep slips inside Vita games is to ensure that the trade-in grader approves them as being in complete condition--some graders operate under the archaic assumption that Vita games are supposed to include physical instruction manuals.

The alternative is to put a Post-It inside that states Vita games don't include physical manuals.

 
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Playstation Now subscription pricing announced. $19.99 for 1 month or $44.99 for 3 months.

After glancing at the titles there's a lot of overlap between stuff we've gotten with PS+ previously. If someone was late to Plus they could catch up on quite a few titles that way. Otherwise it's about on par with GameFly.
It should be noted that, when available, if you download the PS Now PS4 theme you're entered into a drawing to win a free year of PS Now.

I'll totally get a month sub sometime to try to rip through some backlog titles on my vita. Sounds reasonable enough for me to do once in a while.
 
Playstation Now subscription pricing announced. $19.99 for 1 month or $44.99 for 3 months.

After glancing at the titles there's a lot of overlap between stuff we've gotten with PS+ previously. If someone was late to Plus they could catch up on quite a few titles that way. Otherwise it's about on par with GameFly.
Yeah no sold for me. I don't churn through games quick enough for GameFly to make sense so this too makes no sense for me. $180 for a year?

 
Seriously though fuck this cold weather and going back to work after vacation.
This x1000.

I think the ps now stuff will get more interesting when it hits the vita/ps tv. Once that happens, all of a sudden you can have this little 100 dollar box (or cheaper if found on sale) that can play 100+ ps3 games for fairly cheap on your tv without having to buy any games.

Would be better than gamefly as its instant and not limited to just the one game at a time and the 4-5 day turnaround to get another game.

Will be REALLY interesting when it is built in to tvs like they plan where all you have to do is buy a controller and you're playing games.

 
Yeah no sold for me. I don't churn through games quick enough for GameFly to make sense so this too makes no sense for me. $180 for a year?
180/year to play 100+ games if you so choose. Gamefly is about the same and youd be hard pressed to play that many games in a year through that if you only had the 1 game at a time sub, which is the price point this is at.

No real value for me right now, but when its on the vita I might try it out for a month to play some older games I missed if enough of those are on it.

 
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The only reason I'd keep slips inside Vita games is to ensure that the trade-in grader approves them as being in complete condition--some graders operate under the archaic assumption that Vita games are supposed to include physical instruction manuals.

The alternative is to put a Post-It inside that states how Vita games don't include physical manuals.
Only Vita game I have ever traded to Amazon was Resistance. That didn't come with a manual I don't think. If they want to ship it back to me at their expense over a 'manual' that sounds pretty stupid but ok. Would be my first and last trade to Amazon as well. As it stand UPS tracking shows they got the game on Friday but Amazon shows it as still not delivered when I track it through their site. I am sure it will work out.

 
180/year to play 100+ games if you so choose. Gamefly is about the same and youd be hard pressed to play that many games in a year through that if you only had the 1 game at a time sub, which is the price point this is at.

No real value for me right now, but when its on the vita I might try it out for a month to play some older games I missed if enough of those are on it.
Many of which were games I wasn't interested in the first place. I have 10+ games I should be playing now. All of which I actually WANT to play 5 of which I got last month. I think this is a crappy value. Guess we will see it if does well for Sony.

 
The PSNow stream quality was hit or miss for me and unplayable at times, despite it telling me time and time again that I was able to stream at the highest quality. That and how horribly the beta was ran left me with quite the chip on my shoulder so this price just makes me laugh.

You may have to wait for your game in the mail, but at least with gamefly you don't have to worry about dips in quality due to a shaky internet connection, or worse, not being able to connect at all.
 
The PSNow stream quality was hit or miss for me and unplayable at times, despite it telling me time and time again that I was able to stream at the highest quality. That and how horribly the beta was ran left me with quite the chip on my shoulder so this price just makes me laugh.

You may have to wait for your game in the mail, but at least with gamefly you don't have to worry about dips in quality due to a shaky internet connection, or worse, not being able to connect at all.
Never messed with it, so didnt think about connection issues, but yea really good point.

 
Playstation Now subscription pricing announced. $19.99 for 1 month or $44.99 for 3 months.

After glancing at the titles there's a lot of overlap between stuff we've gotten with PS+ previously. If someone was late to Plus they could catch up on quite a few titles that way. Otherwise it's about on par with GameFly.
It really isnt close to the Gamefly pricing for cheap asses though. If you ever want to do Gamefly and are paying more than ~$12 a month for 2 at a time you are doing it wrong.

With that said, this does have the advantage of download time versus shipping time. However, Gamefly's library crushes the Now library.

If there is a large Vita catalog I could see that being a decent month long sub since that is where Gamefly is pretty thin.

 
Can't you just redeem it even without the game anyway? Most of these online passes show up a second download anyway no?
I do not know why this did not even cross my mind. Thanks for the suggestion since I am apparently an idiot.

Code Redeemed. Thanks again kilik!

 
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Playstation Now subscription pricing announced. $19.99 for 1 month or $44.99 for 3 months.

After glancing at the titles there's a lot of overlap between stuff we've gotten with PS+ previously. If someone was late to Plus they could catch up on quite a few titles that way. Otherwise it's about on par with GameFly.
Eh. Gamefly shipping kills GF for me. It's taken a 5 days just to get the old game to them, let alone the delay on the new game arriving to me. Not sure why it takes so damn long. Plus with PS Now's subscription you can play as many games as you want in that month. Though I guess you can't share the sub within a family like you could with a disc/downloaded game--since the game isn't stored locally I'd assume that there's no way for a different PSN account to access the rental. That could be a pretty big negative depending on certain things.

 
It should be noted that, when available, if you download the PS Now PS4 theme you're entered into a drawing to win a free year of PS Now.

I'll totally get a month sub sometime to try to rip through some backlog titles on my vita. Sounds reasonable enough for me to do once in a while.
PS4 only at first. No telling when PS3/Vita will get it.

 
The thing with Gamefly vs. PS Now is that PS Now only has PS3 games at launch vs. the all-console goodness that is Gamefly.  So by that rationale, I would say Gamefly is still the better value.

 
The PSNow stream quality was hit or miss for me and unplayable at times, despite it telling me time and time again that I was able to stream at the highest quality. That and how horribly the beta was ran left me with quite the chip on my shoulder so this price just makes me laugh.

You may have to wait for your game in the mail, but at least with gamefly you don't have to worry about dips in quality due to a shaky internet connection, or worse, not being able to connect at all.
Yeah I wasn't overly impressed with the beta either. I played a bit of Dead Island Riptide. I was on a 50/8 cable modem at time but it was a bit laggy at times.

 
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I tried playing some of those missions for the first time in Ultimate Marvel v Capcom 3 on the bus this morning and holy fucking hannah.  I think I got through the first 5 of Wolverine and then nope.  TOO MANY BUTTONS IN A ROW!

Any tips from you fancy tipsters?

 
PSNow will make some degree of sense if and when they start offering PS4 games. I don't want to pay $19.99 a month only to be limited to PS3 games. Why not rent PS4 games too?

 
PSNow will make some degree of sense if and when they start offering PS4 games. I don't want to pay $19.99 a month only to be limited to PS3 games. Why not rent PS4 games too?
I am going to guess the higher resolution of most PS4 games is a bandwidth issue. Also the back end computers aren't they basically Cell processors on a small card or something. Works fine for PS3 games but not the same hardware (AMD) as PS4.

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/175005-sonys-playstation-now-uses-custom-designed-hardware-with-eight-ps3s-on-a-single-motherboard

 
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I am going to guess the higher resolution of most PS4 games is a bandwidth issue.
That's a non-issue because they can simply stream at 720p or whatever. I'm playing on a 720p TV right now and PS4 games can certainly be played that way. I think they just have no clue what they are doing with this service.

If the issue is the hardware they use on the backend not being capable of running PS4 games, then they really didn't know what they were doing with this service, did they? What a screw up.

 
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I tried playing some of those missions for the first time in Ultimate Marvel v Capcom 3 on the bus this morning and holy fucking hannah. I think I got through the first 5 of Wolverine and then nope. TOO MANY BUTTONS IN A ROW!


Any tips from you fancy tipsters?
Nope, just practice unfortunately. The first 6 missions for most characters are relatively harmless, but the last 2-3 for everyone are painful. I guess if I had to tip:

- it helps if you have the Jill and Shuma characters for the 20 extra missions towards the trophy, but that dlc may have been delisted
- input timing in umvc3 is loose to say the least, so you can use button mashing to help timing
- it's not apparent, but some missions will require tiger knee (qcf but go past forward towards up) motions instead of the listed motions
nemesis mission 9 for example
- don't do those wolverine missions first. Or x23. Ugh.
 
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NOW is still too expensive for any type of mass adoption. I certainly wouldn't pay that but it's is a step in the right direction after seeing those trial prices. If this was like ~$100 annually I'd probably subscribe and not think twice about it. Also not getting the Gamefly comparison. Silly. One catalog is limited, the other is not.
 
Peggle 2 is a decent time killer and I don't regret the (sale price) purchase, but each set of levels goes on too long. By the time I get to the last 2 or 3 in a set I just want to get them over with.

 
NOW is still too expensive for any type of mass adoption. I certainly wouldn't pay that but it's is a step in the right direction after seeing those trial prices. If this was like ~$100 annually I'd probably subscribe and not think twice about it. Also not getting the Gamefly comparison. Silly. One catalog is limited, the other is not.
Both are rental services and short of Redbox (which is REALLY limited in selection) are really the only two options for renting games. One is a physical disc (good for those with limited Internet). The other is also a rental service where you stream games.

I think comparing them makes a lot of sense if you are into renting games.

I think if the price was cheaper AND it was a download vs streaming I would be interested. The performance for me wasn't that great (yes it was during the beta) and the price makes no sense for me.

 
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Prep for a shock, Shipwreck and Wombat are both railing on PS Now.  Jkam is putting up the good fight with Shipwreck at least.

I think the prices are fair, but nothing to rush out and subscribe to right away.  But none of us here are really the audience for PS Now because I'm pretty sure we've all had PS3s for years.  Imagine if the PS4 is your first Sony console, or your first console in general.  There is a lot of value there for $20/$45.  

They do need to continue expanding the catalog, and get PS2 and PS1 classics on there. 

 
I imagine it has more to do with the lack of other market outlets for PS3 titles. If you want a PS4 game you can go out and rent it from redbox, or gamefly, or purchase it. If you want to play a PS3 game and all you have is a PS4 (or you want to play it portable on the vita) you can use PS4. If a developer puts a PS4 game on the service they are potentially getting a much smaller piece of revenue per unit "sold" if someone rented it instead of buying it who would have otherwise purchased it. Renting PS3 games on PS4 there is no opportunity cost as without the service they just wouldn't have been able to purchase it. If the service becomes more popular on TVs / phones / computers then they may start to see it less as PS4 buy revenue and PS4 rent revenue competing against each other since TV, phone, and computer user don't have the opportunity to purchase PS4 games another way.

 
Nope, just practice unfortunately. The first 6 missions for most characters are relatively harmless, but the last 2-3 for everyone are painful. I guess if I had to tip:

- it helps if you have the Jill and Shuma characters for the 20 extra missions towards the trophy, but that dlc may have been delisted
- input timing in umvc3 is loose to say the least, so you can use button mashing to help timing
- it's not apparent, but some missions will require tiger knee (qcf but go past forward towards up) motions instead of the listed motions
nemesis mission 9 for example
- don't do those wolverine missions first. Or x23. Ugh.
So don't start with Wolverine missions. Thanks for the late advice asshole! Trying to do that H, L, H, Air M, Air M, half-circle H, half-circle H+ had me looking all crazy eyed on the bus. Never took my half-circle Hs.

Seriously though, thanks for the tips. I'll start on another character to get more a hang of things. All these combos were always my fighting game kryptonite.

 
[quote name="breakfuss" post="12386354" timestamp="1420471722"]Also not getting the Gamefly comparison. Silly.[/quote]
They're both subscription-based video game rental services. What don't you get?
 
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