PSNOT 2.0 - I kind of want to subscribe to IndieBox.

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GatorBeerGeek said:
I do not remember any games that I have played that required more than 3. Those were not stealth gameplay and they still pissed be off, so I assume this would be even more of a pain in the ass to do 2 of a stealth game.

As far as the online I have watched many of you guys stream it. It definitely would not be fun for me. It seemed like you had to play the online in more of a stealth mode too by crawling around like a dumbass all the time. I already hate competitive multiplayer enough when it is fast paced. There is no way that would be fun to me.

I know it seems hard for you to understand at times, but people do not always find the same type of games fun.
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You've never enjoyed any stealth game, like ever? If so then I guess you wouldn't like TLOU. The stealth is honestly pretty forgiving as the enemies are pretty bad at detecting you. I feel like it's one of those games everyone should try, but it sounds like you made up your mind already.

 
mpaullin said:
You've never enjoyed any stealth game, like ever? If so then I guess you wouldn't like TLOU. The stealth is honestly pretty forgiving as the enemies are pretty bad at detecting you. I feel like it's one of those games everyone should try, but it sounds like you made up your mind already.
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...Yeah, that definitely isn't the case for Survivor difficulty, which Gator would have to play to get the plat.

 
mpaullin said:
You've never enjoyed any stealth game, like ever? If so then I guess you wouldn't like TLOU. The stealth is honestly pretty forgiving as the enemies are pretty bad at detecting you. I feel like it's one of those games everyone should try, but it sounds like you made up your mind already.
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I dont like stealth games either. The last one I enjoyed was Metal Gear Solid on Ps1. I couldnt even finish the ship in the second before I got bored. As I get older I dont feel the need to sneak around taking my time in a game.

Having said that I want to play TLOU to experience it. I am waiting for the PS4 version to be $10 or less. I will probably play it on normal, but if it gets too slow or I die too much I wont be afraid to drop it to easy just to get through it.

 
pharmacrest said:
I also use PSNP to see what games I played and if I might go back to them one day. But it doesnt bother me at all to see games I know I wont play again. It isnt clutter, its one more game in the list easily skipped over. I actually really like seeing the 0% games as I know I really hated those. The 0 is a great reminder.
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The 0% games are generally still in my normal backlog. I think I've got 2-3 that I immediately didn't like and don't intend to play. The majority of my 0% games are from booting something up just to make sure it works but not actually playing it yet.

 
Thermopyle said:
The 0% games are generally still in my normal backlog. I think I've got 2-3 that I immediately didn't like and don't intend to play. The majority of my 0% games are from booting something up just to make sure it works but not actually playing it yet.
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O. C. D.

 
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jimbo8574 said:
Fired it up this morning and it asked me to pick the language which I thought was a little strange (did this yesterday). Picked English and then it went to what I thought was a loading screen and it did nothing. I had to read some text to figure out they now wanted me to press start.

WTF. I already told you to load the game and didn't learn a foreign language in 7 hours. I thought the fucken thing lost my install/save. It did push it to the cloud last night but I didn't want to waste the little time I had reinstalling the game.

If that is my only annoyance with the game I will be happy.
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Yeah, it does that every time. It's pretty bizarre.

 
Vigilante said:
...Yeah, that definitely isn't the case for Survivor difficulty, which Gator would have to play to get the plat.
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Yeah, I'm not looking forward to that but I'll try it sooner or later. I'm also a stealth hater, but tlou on normal wasn't too awful.

I liked the evil within's stealth - you can go stealthy and be somewhat successful, but if you screw up you can just say fuck it and unleash holy hell on whoever spotted you and everyone that follows with very little consequence.
 
mpaullin said:
You've never enjoyed any stealth game, like ever? If so then I guess you wouldn't like TLOU. The stealth is honestly pretty forgiving as the enemies are pretty bad at detecting you. I feel like it's one of those games everyone should try, but it sounds like you made up your mind already.
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Speaking of stealth; it's not on any PS systems, but I hope everybody with PC/360 access has played Mark of the Ninja. If you haven't and still have a 360 it's absolutely worth playing before you ditch the 360. Or playing on PC if you can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSwyZ45L1r8

I mentioned it a few weeks back but don't think anybody commented on it, so I'm not sure if everybody is aware of the game.

 
If anyone was wondering, post code 4 exam freedom wars is better than the preceding levels by a decent amount. Some of the missions are starting to get tough with multiple abductors at the same time and your accessory not getting to you fast enough for revives. You actually have to be tactical and consider when to drag/heal/sever/etc and on which abductor. For the first time I'm looking forward to getting back to it tonight and seeing what code 6 looks like.
 
MildObstruction said:
Yeah, I'm not looking forward to that but I'll try it sooner or later. I'm also a stealth hater, but tlou on normal wasn't too awful.

I liked the evil within's stealth - you can go stealthy and be somewhat successful, but if you screw up you can just say fuck it and unleash holy hell on whoever spotted you and everyone that follows with very little consequence.
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There's this one area in TLoU (I think it was a hotel?) where you almost always end up fighting a bunch of guys no matter how much you sneak around, but during my Survivor playthrough, I was so invested in the stealth that I went even slower than I usually did for that section. After taking care of a few guys with the bow (leaning forward and gripping my controller the whole time), I braced for the usual ambush, but nothing happened. Instead of fighting 5-6 guys, the 2-3 I had dealt with prevented any more from arriving.

Man, did that feel satisfying. I felt a similar euphoria after clearing the village in Ch. 2 of The Evil Within on Akumu without being detected once. I love it when stealth is done right.

 
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pharmacrest said:
Finally! I can send you all screen shots of all the awesome common trophies as I earn them! Woot!
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Ninja or someone else with Photoshop wizardry needs to add trophies to this:

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#commonscommontrophies

 
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GatorBeerGeek said:
I do not remember any games that I have played that required more than 3. Those were not stealth gameplay and they still pissed be off, so I assume this would be even more of a pain in the ass to do 2 of a stealth game.

As far as the online I have watched many of you guys stream it. It definitely would not be fun for me. It seemed like you had to play the online in more of a stealth mode too by crawling around like a dumbass all the time. I already hate competitive multiplayer enough when it is fast paced. There is no way that would be fun to me.

I know it seems hard for you to understand at times, but people do not always find the same type of games fun.
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I haven't plat it yet but pretty sure you have to play it 4 times for 100%.

pharmacrest said:
I might have spoken too soon about the commons in Tennis in the Face.

I just realized this Heavy Fire game has 28 trophies and EVERY SINGLE ONE (except the plat at 49.43) is above 50% on PSNP. Even the plat in the second game is above 50%. #commons
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So GOTY?

 
Talked to the Guest Service dude at my downtown Target today and he said as long as I have the receipt and can do return shenanigans to get that BOGO deal retroactively.  I was hoping to grab the PS3 Wolfenstein New Order on clearance as my free game but apparently clearance games don't count.  Only the ones in the bins.  Nothing else in there really grabbed me at the $20 range, so I'll probably go to a different store and grab Jak & Daxter collection or something.

 
Zimm108 said:
Talked to the Guest Service dude at my downtown Target today and he said as long as I have the receipt and can do return shenanigans to get that BOGO deal retroactively. I was hoping to grab the PS3 Wolfenstein New Order on clearance as my free game but apparently clearance games don't count. Only the ones in the bins. Nothing else in there really grabbed me at the $20 range, so I'll probably go to a different store and grab Jak & Daxter collection or something.
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Did you scan Wolfenstein with the Price Checker to see if "Special Promotion" appeared? If it does, it's part of the promo, regardless of whether it's clearance or in the bins.

 
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Vigilante said:
Did you scan Wolfenstein with the Price Checker to see if "Special Promotion" appeared? If it does, it's part of the promo, regardless of whether it's clearance or in the bins.
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I did scan it at the price checker, but was looking for "Value" to show up. I'm pretty sure "Special Promotion" didn't appear. It looked just like a regular scan text besides the lower price. Thanks for making me go back and check again though.

 
Zimm108 said:
Talked to the Guest Service dude at my downtown Target today and he said as long as I have the receipt and can do return shenanigans to get that BOGO deal retroactively. I was hoping to grab the PS3 Wolfenstein New Order on clearance as my free game but apparently clearance games don't count. Only the ones in the bins. Nothing else in there really grabbed me at the $20 range, so I'll probably go to a different store and grab Jak & Daxter collection or something.
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You have that generic trophy card now. Play something with a trophy card, please. Flash sale was the worst sale, confirmed.

 
Vigilante said:
...Yeah, that definitely isn't the case for Survivor difficulty, which Gator would have to play to get the plat.
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Well I can only speak to rational gaming habits (playing a game for as long as you're having fun with it).

pharmacrest said:
I dont like stealth games either. The last one I enjoyed was Metal Gear Solid on Ps1. I couldnt even finish the ship in the second before I got bored. As I get older I dont feel the need to sneak around taking my time in a game.

Having said that I want to play TLOU to experience it. I am waiting for the PS4 version to be $10 or less. I will probably play it on normal, but if it gets too slow or I die too much I wont be afraid to drop it to easy just to get through it.
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Old school stealth games can definitely be frustrating/slow paced. I feel like recently there have been a lot of games where stealth is your easier option, but not mandatory (Dishonored, the last Hitman, even Battlefield Hardline). I find those to be more fun than games where you instantly die after being detected.

 
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Crunchewy said:
You have that generic trophy card now. Play something with a trophy card, please. Flash sale was the worst sale, confirmed.
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Yeah I know I hate that. I was looking forward to a card with the art from the game. Weird that a lot of those flash sale games never got the proper card treatment.

And I did earn some trophies this morning in Virtua Tennis, but no way to sync them. So just pretend you took your nightly Viagra gramps and enjoy the blue.

 
To answer the stealth question, no I haven't. AC series has enough action that I can get by. The mandated stealth parts for full synch are the worst. I'd rather just kill however I want, but the rest is fun enough that I look over that piece.
 
mpaullin said:
Old school stealth games can definitely be frustrating/slow paced. I feel like recently there have been a lot of games where stealth is your easier option, but not mandatory (Dishonored, the last Hitman, even Battlefield Hardline). I find those to be a lot of fun than games where you instantly die after being detected.
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I have ADHD or whatever they want to call it now. Even though it isnt even a real stealth game I started getting tired and bored of sneaking around in Hardline. I almost quit a couple times until I figured out how best to stick em up with the badge and to run through the levels without being seen. It took me half the game before I realized I could run to the checkpoint and not have to kill or arrest everyone on a level.

The very last level took me all of 30 seconds to complete as I completely skipped all the bad guys and snuck around the back to the end. That was my favorite part of the game.

 
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Bumslie said:
The blood splatter on the clothes in Bloodborne is awesome.

So the people that played it today, what do you think of it?
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It's still early, but I think I'm enjoying it more than the Souls games (which I admittedly never got that far into). I enjoy the (slightly) increased mobility and not having a shield makes the combat more fast paced (more fun than "wait, block, strike, wait, block strike"). Being able to gain some health back and carry a lot more health potions makes me feel slightly less vulnerable.

Also, I'm embarrassed to admit that I never realized if you paused and quit these games you'd start right back where you left off (thanks to whoever posted that yesterday). For some reason I always though you started at the last campfire so I would always be hesitant to boot it up for fear I wouldn't have enough time to progress far.

There are still those un-user friendly quirks that these games are known for. The only reason I knew pressing L1 would change my weapon to a different mode is because I read it in a review. Why wouldn't they mention that in some sort of tutorial? Ditto with pressing up to sacrifice some health for bullets (though I think I did see that on a load screen at some point). I've accidentally done that like 5 times while trying to switch my item.


guardian_owl said:
reddit says http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/305yyo/psa_you_can_level_up_before_first_boss/

go to the sewers, there is an item there that gives you insight (I think it is like Bloodborne's version of humanity). Use the item while NOT INSIDE THE HUNTER'S DREAM, once you have at least 1 level of insight you can level up
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Thanks. I've already been in that dungeon area so I should have what I need.

 
There's also going to be a Vita system update tonight which among some accessibility stuff also "enables PS Vita to support 60 fps streaming for Remote Play".

This is irrelevant to me, as for me Remote Play has sketchy performance already, let alone at 60 fps. Unless this update improves the performance.

 
Zimm108 said:
Talked to the Guest Service dude at my downtown Target today and he said as long as I have the receipt and can do return shenanigans to get that BOGO deal retroactively. I was hoping to grab the PS3 Wolfenstein New Order on clearance as my free game but apparently clearance games don't count. Only the ones in the bins. Nothing else in there really grabbed me at the $20 range, so I'll probably go to a different store and grab Jak & Daxter collection or something.
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The Target I checked yesterday didn't have a bin. I was hoping the assorted games on one of the shelves would count, especially since Rayman Legends (Vita) was there but didn't have an assigned shelf spot, but no dice. Planning to check a different one tonight--hopefully I'll have better luck there.

 
By the by, freedom wars is $22 ($17.59 gcu) at bby right now. Lego batman 3 is also on sale for $18/$14.50 gcu.

Surprisingly all of the used vita game prices went back to normal prices. If they don't change their tivs from 0.25 for everything though they might as well just delete them from the site.
 
Crunchewy said:
There's also going to be a Vita system update tonight which among some accessibility stuff also "enables PS Vita to support 60 fps streaming for Remote Play".

This is irrelevant to me, as for me Remote Play has sketchy performance already, let alone at 60 fps. Unless this update improves the performance.
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I just think it's good that they were in the rp code at all. Hopefully they fixed some of the quirks, but I think if you're having performance problems now you'll keep having them due to the relatively craptacular wifi in the vita. I've had to make a lot of accommodations in my house to get it to work (moving my router to under the floor of my main level to get a strong enough signal for both devices at the same time for example) but it's definitely my favorite thing.

Fun fact - helldivers has an excellent rp implementation despite having a full vita port. I can play the ps4 version just as well from my vita though and get all the shiny graphics AND play with my psnot brethren.
 
Hey yo Pete,

Do you remember if you need the full 980 stars to get invited to the playoffs in Virtua Tennis 4, or if you just need to achieve that last rank at 950?  I was dum and missed a lot of stars on the 2nd tour and I'm worried I'm not gonna have enough now that I'm on the last leg of the last tour.  I think I can squeak by at 950 but the 980 is gonna be mega tough.

 
I finally watched a video of Axiom Verge and I'm not totally sold on it. The graphics seem pretty bad. I get they are going for the retro vibe but Super Metroid looked a lot better than that. Something about the color palette is just unattractive to me and makes me think it will be a pain to navigate. Gameplay looks solid enough, I guess. Seems like it apes Metroid too much. I could just boot that up instead and get a similar amount of enjoyment. Maybe I'm missing some sort of interesting twist. Will scope the reviews when it releases. 

 
Regarding poor WiFi on Vita. I'm not sure if that's the issue or not, but my PS4 is hooked up via Ethernet and I get sketchy RP performance even when I'm in the same room as the router. The WiFi worked fine when I played Helldivers on the Vita (not RP), but RP doesn't seem to work very well.

 
MildObstruction said:
Yeah, I'm not looking forward to that but I'll try it sooner or later. I'm also a stealth hater, but tlou on normal wasn't too awful.

I liked the evil within's stealth - you can go stealthy and be somewhat successful, but if you screw up you can just say fuck it and unleash holy hell on whoever spotted you and everyone that follows with very little consequence.
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That's the case with Hitman Absolution too, it is the most gun friendly of the Hitman games.

 
Zimm108 said:
Hey yo Pete,

Do you remember if you need the full 980 stars to get invited to the playoffs in Virtua Tennis 4, or if you just need to achieve that last rank at 950? I was dum and missed a lot of stars on the 2nd tour and I'm worried I'm not gonna have enough now that I'm on the last leg of the last tour. I think I can squeak by at 950 but the 980 is gonna be mega tough.
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I don't recall, but I know I did the same thing and ended up doing a third play through world tour to get the needed amount (so it's probably the 980). It pissed me off until I remembered that it was fun to play. I just waited a year in between runs.
 
mpaullin said:
Also, I'm embarrassed to admit that I never realized if you paused and quit these games you'd start right back where you left off (thanks to whoever posted that yesterday). For some reason I always though you started at the last campfire so I would always be hesitant to boot it up for fear I wouldn't have enough time to progress far.
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Yep, that's the way it is with all 3 Souls games, It's just like suspend->resume, except it doesn't work when you're being invaded and if you quit during a boss when you boot back up you will be standing just outside the boss fog gate, but any consumables you used during the fight (spell charges, estus flasks, etc.) will still be gone.

First time I played Demon's Souls blind I played 4 hours straight, annoyedly looking for a save point for the last 3 before I realized it saves automatically every 20-30 seconds (periodically and whenever you do anything in your inventory) and you have to quit to do a manual save.

 
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Crunchewy said:
Regarding poor WiFi on Vita. I'm not sure if that's the issue or not, but my PS4 is hooked up via Ethernet and I get sketchy RP performance even when I'm in the same room as the router. The WiFi worked fine when I played Helldivers on the Vita (not RP), but RP doesn't seem to work very well.
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I'll be first to ask if you have direct connection off in your ps4's rp settings (I imagine you do).
 
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