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Draekon said:
They're two entirely different games as far as I'm concerned. Divinity is entirely turned based where you take turns based on your speed in battle and perform an entire action or set of actions that is determined by your AP.

In Pillars, it is essentially real-time with pause mechanics that allow you to issue/re-issue and queue (somewhat) orders. Technically in Pillars your speed of actions in battle is determined by a number of things such as your Dexterity, the kind of weapon you have equipped, your armor and any other beneficial or detrimental effects that the particular character may be experiencing. You can also slow or speed up combat in Pillars as well. It's a lot closer to games like Baldur's Gate.

Combat in this video starts at around 20:25 into the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoWw5swpfX0

I don't entirely agree with everything he says, but it should give you a brief idea while explaining a little bit.
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What about comparing Divine Divinity to PoE?

 
MysterD said:
What about comparing Divine Divinity to PoE?
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Sure, if you tell me the difference between Baldur's Gate (PoE) and Diablo (Divine Divinity) which is probably the closest comparison I can make between two well known games. I'd like to just keep it short and say one's more tactical and slower paced while the latter is more reactionary and faster paced. Saying it was essentially real-time isn't entirely correct I know, but in comparison to Original Sin I felt it was more apt.

I'm also lazy and don't want to spend an hour writing something. It'd be easier to grab videos of gameplay on each and just say, "Here, look for yourself."

 
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MakMan333 said:
Sigh. I want it pretty badly.

I'll probably end up getting it later in the year, the release calendar looks pretty barren after the Batman game, so maybe a decent summer deal gets me to bite.
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Have you played all the IE games? Just do that to hold you over til it hits a good price. I really want PoE but I still haven't played Planescape, either of the Icewind Dale or the NWN games, so I'll just do that first.

 
spoderman said:
Damn, why didn't you pull a dfg? :whistle2:(
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pasports31 said:
Have you played all the IE games? Just do that to hold you over til it hits a good price. I really want PoE but I still haven't played Planescape, either of the Icewind Dale or the NWN games, so I'll just do that first.
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I'm playing through Bloodborne still, and then I have the DS2 DLC to play so I've got a ton of shit to keep me covered.

 
Earlier this week I got my final trophy in Bloodborne and essentially 100%'ed the game. It was a Hell of a ride. As much as I love the various Souls games Bloodborne has been my favorite so far. Anyone with a PS4 should pick it up. I could see a PC port in the future but not for quite awhile.

 
pasports31 said:
Have you played all the IE games? Just do that to hold you over til it hits a good price. I really want PoE but I still haven't played Planescape, either of the Icewind Dale or the NWN games, so I'll just do that first.
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If you want random Internet advice, you should really try planescape. Fantastic world and story.

 
hal said:
Speaking as someone who has experience with this, I can tell you that it's a giant pain in the butt. Good forum software and hosting is not free. Properly managing and maintaining a forum is time consuming. It really should be left to people that are passionate about their vision and not just disgruntled casual posters like us.

The downside to CAG is the odd moderation and their passive aggressive way of communication. The upside to CAG is, well, that it's up and running. In the past, you could also say that it was nice to have official reps (Amazon, Blink, GMG on occasion, etc).
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I think the CAG crew would do well with a Steam deals megathread at Videogamegeek.com. It's certainly a moderated place, but the moderating is actually consistent.

 
Draekon said:
Sure, if you tell me the difference between Baldur's Gate (PoE) and Diablo (Divine Divinity) which is probably the closest comparison I can make between two well known games. I'd like to just keep it short and say one's more tactical and slower paced while the latter is more reactionary and faster paced. Saying it was essentially real-time isn't entirely correct I know, but in comparison to Original Sin I felt it was more apt.

I'm also lazy and don't want to spend an hour writing something. It'd be easier to grab videos of gameplay on each and just say, "Here, look for yourself."
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Divine Divinity is basically a single-player (somewhat) open-world Diablo w/ a ton more character, story + plot elements. I just wish the voice-acting in Divine Divinity wasn't so all over the place.

BG series is more party-based + more strategic. So, if you're comparing PoE to any of the BioWare BG games - that's an insanely high compliment for any game.

Hell, comparing PoE to any of the Infinity Engine games - yeah, I can start drooling....

[drool]

BG1 was great; BG2: SOA is arguably the best base-game for a traditional-fantasy RPG ever made; BG2: TOB is arguably the best expansion pack ever for a RPG; and PS:T is my favorite RPG of all time (and all has the best prose + writing found in CRPG).

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Correlli said:
If you want random Internet advice, you should really try planescape. Fantastic world and story.
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Can't argue that.

Anyone who wants lots of choices (especially lots of non-violent choices, if certain speech-based choices are high); & lots of great story, characters, and especially book-worthy writing + prose: this is the CRPG to play.

 
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pasports31 said:
Have you played all the IE games? Just do that to hold you over til it hits a good price. I really want PoE but I still haven't played Planescape, either of the Icewind Dale or the NWN games, so I'll just do that first.
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I don't know what it was about NWN w/ its SP campaigns - but the NWN1 base-game wasn't that great; and NWN2 was solid (Certainly better than NWN1 base-game) but nothing spectacular.

NWN series on SP campaigns really shined + knocked it out the park w/ the expansions. NWN1: Hordes was fantastic; and so was NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer (i.e. Mask is the closest thing to Planescape: Torment since that game).

 
Captain Urahara said:
Earlier this week I got my final trophy in Bloodborne and essentially 100%'ed the game. It was a Hell of a ride. As much as I love the various Souls games Bloodborne has been my favorite so far. Anyone with a PS4 should pick it up. I could see a PC port in the future but not for quite awhile.
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try Demon's Soul while you are at it

The Soul series and any similar type of game from From Software should be enjoyed backward, esp. if you are new to the genre. Blood Borne is the most accessible and easiest to get into

Play in this order: BloodBorne, DS2, DS1, Demon's Soul

 
Captain Urahara said:
Earlier this week I got my final trophy in Bloodborne and essentially 100%'ed the game. It was a Hell of a ride. As much as I love the various Souls games Bloodborne has been my favorite so far. Anyone with a PS4 should pick it up. I could see a PC port in the future but not for quite awhile.
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I'm not far into the game, at all, but I think it's safe to say that I'd put Bloodborne above 2 below 1. I like it, but I think it's pretty flawed.

 
agentghost said:
try Demon's Soul while you are at it
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Agreed. Really I say to play and enjoy all of them. Obviously Dark Souls 1 & 2 are available on multiple platforms but Demon's Souls is PS3 only and Bloodborne is PS4 only.

MakMan333 said:
I'm not far into the game, at all, but I think it's safe to say that I'd put Bloodborne above 2 below 1. I like it, but I think it's pretty flawed.
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Obviously they all have their own flaws. I really enjoy Bloodborne the most mostly due to the aesthetics. The dark gothic environments are great and accompanied with the soundtrack it is a real hitter. That's enough to see over the minor flaws I think Bloodborne has.

 
agentghost said:
try Demon's Soul while you are at it

The Soul series and any similar type of game from From Software should be enjoyed backward, esp. if you are new to the genre. Blood Borne is the most accessible and easiest to get into

Play in this order: BloodBorne, DS2, DS1, Demon's Soul
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I'm curious - what makes Bloodborne much more accessible than the others?

 
MysterD said:
Divine Divinity is basically a single-player (somewhat) open-world Diablo w/ a ton more character, story + plot elements. I just wish the voice-acting in Divine Divinity wasn't so all over the place.

BG series is more party-based + more strategic. So, if you're comparing PoE to any of the BioWare BG games - that's an insanely high compliment for any game.

Hell, comparing PoE to any of the Infinity Engine games - yeah, I can start drooling....

[drool]

BG1 was great; BG2: SOA is arguably the best base-game for a traditional-fantasy RPG ever made; BG2: TOB is arguably the best expansion pack ever for a RPG; and PS:T is my favorite RPG of all time (and all has the best prose + writing found in CRPG).
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I didn't really go into detail because it felt like your reply was a half-joke and ended up editing my half-joke reply to sound less asshole'ish as I often come off that way with the way I write.

Anyhow, I feel the game is better than Baldur's Gate but not as good as Baldur's Gate 2 or Planescape: Torment. It did very well to create a world, which is something those games already had. Further the system/rules in place works pretty well, but could always use tweaks to further improve it. If they continue making future games in the world, I can only imagine that it'll be better now that they've done all the difficult creation for the world and system out of the way.

With how Bioware and Bethesda have been the last decade or so with writing and lore though, I find PoE undeniably better in that aspect easily. Bioware has a terrible choice system where you feel like there's a choice but there never is. In PoE it works quite well. It's all about context and there are no clear Right/Wrong or Good/Bad choices. As for Lore, a lot of people feel Bethesda is king but honestly their writing is pretty lackluster. In terms of quantity, sure they may be king but that only gets you so far. The writing in PoE is far and beyond better than what you see in Bethesda games.

The lowest point writing wise is probably the urgency of the main quest as it wraps up for your main character. It's not so much that they don't communicate it to you (If you're using companions and not create-an-adventurer), but that you're able to go on sidequests for days or weeks. I'd go into further detail, but then that would border on some spoilers. Other than that, it's fantastic.

Gameplay though, you can see it for yourself in youtube videos. Just look for the ones that are more towards explaining the mechanics or else you'll run into spoilers. Though if you've played other Infinity Engine games, you will generally know what to expect. However it doesn't use D&D or AD&D ruleset since they'd have to pay royalties to Wizards of the Coast which they just created their own instead. It lets you min/max while still allowing almost any created character(s) to get through the story if you play your cards right.

 
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MysterD said:
I'm curious - what makes Bloodborne much more accessible than the others?
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IMO, Bloodborne is faster paced and tighter control.

Demon's Soul pace and control is ... frustrating. Beating enemies in Demon's Soul is satisfying. Beating enemies in Bloodborne is satisfying AND fun!

I think From Software learned alot from these past Soul games and improve their games vastly

 
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Correlli said:
If you want random Internet advice, you should really try planescape. Fantastic world and story.
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Don't need the advice for that...that's the next old school style rpg game I'm going to play. Taking a little bit of a break from those though...this year already I've played Fallout 1, Baldur's Gate 2 + its expansion, and although it's new, Shadowrun Returns is somewhat similar (isometric, turn based, etc). I'll play Planescape in the next few months probably though.

 
Draekon said:
Anyhow, I feel the game is better than Baldur's Gate but not as good as Baldur's Gate 2 or Planescape: Torment.

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It did very well to create a world, which is something those games already had. Further the system/rules in place works pretty well, but could always use tweaks to further improve it. If they continue making future games in the world, I can only imagine that it'll be better now that they've done all the difficult creation for the world and system out of the way.
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That's fantastic, for you to say PoE to be even be running-up behind the other two great CRPG's. Extremely high compliment.

With how Bioware and Bethesda have been the last decade or so with writing and lore though, I find PoE undeniably better in that aspect easily.
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Eh, I don't think Bethesda's lore, storytelling, and characters were ever on par w/ anything BioWare has done.

Bethesda's stories and whatnot in their books of Lore w/in the ES games are often much better than the lore, voice-acting, dialogue + writing that we deal w/ in the actual ES games w/ their actual quests themselves.

In terms of choices - it's hard to compete w/ Obsidian. In that regard, they've often given players tons of choices that are not the obvious "Good", bad" or things of that sort - and don't turn out obvious, after your decision's been made. Often, it's more of a gray; more of choices + consequence. See FO:NV + Alpha Protocol, for starters.

Bioware has a terrible choice system where you feel like there's a choice but there never is. In PoE it works quite well and there is no direct "Good" or "Bad" choice. It's all about context and there are no clear Right/Wrong or Good/Bad choices. As for Lore, a lot of people feel Bethesda is king but honestly their writing is pretty lackluster. In terms of quantity, sure they may be king but that only gets you so far. The writing in PoE is far and beyond better than what you see in Bethesda games.
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I think in terms of writing, prose, characters & things of that sort - Obsidian has often out-classed BioWare.

Obsidian's problem often was - b/c they have re-used engines & gameplay it doesn't feel super-fresh as previous said game (see KOTOR 2 vs. KOTOR 1; FO:NV vs. FO3; NWN2 vs. NWN1); have technical issues galore (see NWN2 and performance issues out-the-gate; FO: NV's tons of issues out-the-gate); companies kicking their game out the door too early so that they cut tons of content out (see KOTOR 2 + Alpha Protocol); etc etc - so, they often wind-up behind what others are doing.

 
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agentghost said:
IMO, Bloodborne is faster paced and tighter control.

Demon's Soul pace and control is ... frustrating. Beating enemies in Demon's Soul is satisfying. Beating enemies in Bloodborne is satisfying AND fun!

I think From Software learned alot from these past Soul games and improve their games vastly
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Disagree. I think all the backtracking is obtuse and unnecessary (DS1 + 2 areas fed into each other for the most part, while BB generally has you going in a straight line till you hit a boss), I think having to go back to the Hunter's Dream to reset your health/items/enemies is ridiculous, the camera is terrible, and the bell match making system is also a step back. I like the game, but I think they made some weird choices, that really don't ADD to the game in any way.

 
MysterD said:
Eh, I don't think Bethesda's lore, storytelling, and characters were ever on par w/ anything BioWare has done.
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Even if you like BioWare writing, their lore has always been terrible. That's why their best efforts are the ones in established universes—Greyhawk, Star Wars, Faerun, etc. The lore for Mass Effect and Dragon Age has gotten a little better as the series have progressed, but that's simply from accumulation. When they started, those worlds were stock sci-fi/fantasy, and honestly they haven't progressed all that far since.

Bethesda's writing and plotting, meanwhile, are absolute bollocks, but the lore is actually pretty rich, at least for TES. Fallout's lore comes from Black Isle Studios, of course.
 
Souffrir said:
Even if you like BioWare writing, their lore has always been terrible. That's why their best efforts are the ones in established universes—Greyhawk, Star Wars, Faerun, etc. The lore for Mass Effect and Dragon Age has gotten a little better as the series have progressed, but that's simply from accumulation. When they started, those worlds were stock sci-fi/fantasy, and honestly they haven't progressed all that far since.

Bethesda's writing and plotting, meanwhile, are absolute bollocks, but the lore is actually pretty rich, at least for TES. Fallout's lore comes from Black Isle Studios, of course.
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Agreed, I think the lore for Dragon Age is actually incredibly boring. Mass Effect is definitely better. While Bethesda's story and dialogue suck, the lore for the world itself is pretty fantastic, and I prefer it greatly to either DA or ME.

 
Souffrir said:
I don't think it really was, nor was it made with ill-intent. MysterD is just... like that.

He doesn't really understand how to navigate social interaction.
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Souf is correct on all of this.

My question of "What about PoE compared to Divine Divinity?" was just that - I was looking for comparisons b/t that and PoE.

I have not played Divinity: Original Sin (with its turn-based isometric CRPG style) - so, I don't even know what the heck to compare that to. Ummm - maybe Arcanum (before you get more party members + when you actually have just you and Virgil in the party, and you run the game in turn-based mode)? I wasn't sure what Divinity game you were comparing - but I think you were comparing maybe Original Sin to PoE, not Divine.

Divinity series w/ each iteration has changed quite a bit. Divine was a cross b/t Diablo + a open-world game w/ actual story + character development in a isometric viewpoint. Divinity 2 felt like a cross b/t Fable games + open-world Elder Scrolls games - but again, Divinity 2 actually has a story + character development.

 
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pasports31 said:
Agreed, I think the lore for Dragon Age is actually incredibly boring. Mass Effect is definitely better. While Bethesda's story and dialogue suck, the lore for the world itself is pretty fantastic, and I prefer it greatly to either DA or ME.
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I think Mass Effect 2 probably had the best questing, stories, and character stuff in that Mass Effect series. Just about everything + everyone there - it all felt like it had meaning. Especially when gathering your party-member missions & their Loyalty missions. Especially by the time you do the final mission - when everything feels "on the line" there. It's just - I would've loved to have had say the few tweaks + gameplay improvements in ME3 (the improvements & modifications of weapons system + the new roll move) in ME2. Yeah, I think the Lore in ME is much better than what was in DA.

Of course, I've yet to play DA:I. So, how's the Lore in Inquisition?

 
MakMan333 said:
Disagree. I think all the backtracking is obtuse and unnecessary (DS1 + 2 areas fed into each other for the most part, while BB generally has you going in a straight line till you hit a boss), I think having to go back to the Hunter's Dream to reset your health/items/enemies is ridiculous, the camera is terrible, and the bell match making system is also a step back. I like the game, but I think they made some weird choices, that really don't ADD to the game in any way.
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I completely agree with you. I feel like it's more of a barebones game than the DS ones. Less weapons and build choices. Can't travel between lamps is stupid and having to go to the Hunter's Dream. Though I do like the HUB as it's nice, but with the loading screens it's dumb especially if you choose the wrong location and have to load for over a minute and a half. I tried playing DS1 yesterday and I can tell I'm spolied on the BB graphics.

 
MysterD said:
I think Mass Effect 2 probably had the best questing, stories, and character stuff in that Mass Effect series. Just about everything + everyone there - it all felt like it had meaning. Especially when gathering your party-member missions & their Loyalty missions. Especially by the time you do the final mission - when everything feels "on the line" there. It's just - I would've loved to have had say the few tweaks + gameplay improvements in ME3 (the improvements & modifications of weapons system + the new roll move) in ME2. Yeah, I think the Lore in ME is much better than what was in DA.

Of course, I've yet to play DA:I. So, how's the Lore in Inquisition?
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i haven't played inquistion but its not like lore really changes all that substantially from game to game. like, skyrim has essentially the same overarching lore as oblivion and morrowind. lore is pretty much the world building of a game (history, myths, legends, religions, how the dynamics of a world interact, etc), and that isn't going to change.

 
Flowette said:
Shaq Fu you Trav, seriously.

I'd resisted all last night and thought "yeah, I'll just wishlist it and pretend this never happened". Then you post this buzzword-laden review.

You're suppose to tell me it sucks.

Bad Trav. BAD.
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By the way, I too have a coupon for 33% off Deathtrap if anyone else is thinking of picking it up. Coupon expires 4/14.

Lost Planet sucks, Deathtrap is a lot of fun.

pasports31 said:
Have you played all the IE games? Just do that to hold you over til it hits a good price. I really want PoE but I still haven't played Planescape, either of the Icewind Dale or the NWN games, so I'll just do that first.
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IMHO, you can safely skip the IWD series. It is story-lite and combat heavy, and overall pretty meh. I would go for Planescape, the 2 NWN1 expansions plus there are some other smaller modules in the diamond pack, and then NWN2+expansions. Base game NWN is pretty crap honestly.

By the time you get through that, PoE will have had a bunch of patches and maybe even an expansion!

 
gilby said:
Does backing the Kickstarter count as fakey-ing?

I haven't had enough time to get far into it, but I really like what I see so far.
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Even though it's a little bit different than pre-ordering (b/c you're helping fund a game directly), I still consider it another form of pre-ordering & buying games ASAP at often Premium Pricing - so, yes. :p

I can't speak on how others feel about Kickstarting a game, though.

 
I kickstarted Wasteland 2 and do not regret it.  

Correction, the only regret I had was when InXile did the kickstarter for Torment, there was an option to get both Torment and Wasteland 2.  I wished that inXile would have given the Wasteland 2 backers an option to pay a little more for a copy of Torment.

For what it is worth, Torment can still be had for $30.

 
MakMan333 said:
Disagree. I think all the backtracking is obtuse and unnecessary (DS1 + 2 areas fed into each other for the most part, while BB generally has you going in a straight line till you hit a boss), I think having to go back to the Hunter's Dream to reset your health/items/enemies is ridiculous, the camera is terrible, and the bell match making system is also a step back. I like the game, but I think they made some weird choices, that really don't ADD to the game in any way.
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well, sorry if you felt that way. Demon Soul and DS are too hardcore for me.

BB hit the right chord. I only have the urge of slamming my console 50% of the time while playing BB. For Demon's Soul, it was 80% of the time

Besides I like the dodge mechanic in BB. My gameplay is more fluid and dynamic

 
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gilby said:
I bought it DRM-free from Amazon. Not sure if they still have that available, though.
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I went with a Uplay key from NewEgg. They literally sent me 5 fuck ing emails regarding my order before I got my key. What a waste of digital paper.

Then I viciously rubbed one out 'cause I LOVE Uplay.
 
MysterD said:
Even though it's a little bit different than pre-ordering (b/c you're helping fund a game directly), I still consider it another form of pre-ordering & buying games ASAP at often Premium Pricing - so, yes. :p
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It's a little different than buying when it's brand new, though. It's buying it well before it's even close to that. The kickstarter was two and a half years ago.

I'm not complaining. I knew it would be a long process to craft the game, and backed because I wanted to see it made.

 
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