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Welcome to the Xbox Deals and Discussion thread.

General info
  • You cannot currently buy any Xbox 360 content on xbox.com using your account balance, you can only use an active credit card or PayPal. To use your balance, you must make purchases on your console. Unfortunately, even "purchasing" free content through the web site like trials requires an alternative method of payment tied to your account, though adding an empty MasterCard / Visa gift card that is registered for online purchases will work. Xbox One games can be purchased on the web site with your account balance.
  • Some sales are intended for Gold subscribers only, as noted within each section.
    On Xbox One, Gold trials of any length work for sales and Games with Gold. You must be an active Gold subscriber (paid or trial) to play Games with Gold purchases.
  • On Xbox 360, you must have at least a 1 month Gold subscription for sales and Games with Gold. Neither 48 hour trials, 14 day trials nor free weekends qualify.
  • All known sales and information on sales should make their way into the OP. Major Nelson usually updates his blog with new sales information every Tuesday.
  • ALL OFFERS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE! No information within this thread can or should be construed as accurate (or still valid), therefore ...
  • Always verify Xbox Live Marketplace prices before your purchase!
  • Spend wisely, have fun, and enjoy!

Latest Sales Posts​

Apr 23 - Wednesday drops​

Apr 22 - Tuesday drops​

Apr 21 - Weekly Sale - Last chance​

Apr 17 - Spring Sale carry over​

Apr 16 - Spring Sale - Other drops​

Apr 15 - Tuesday drops​

Apr 14 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance​

Apr 9 - Wednesday drops​

Apr 8 - Tuesday drops​

Apr 7 - Weekly Sale - Last chance​

Apr 3 - Thursday drops​

Apr 2 - Wednesday drops​

Apr 1 - Tuesday drop​

Mar 31 - Weekly Sale - Last chance​

Mar 27 - Thursday drops​

Mar 26 - Wednesday drops​

Mar 25 - Tuesday drops​

Mar 24 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance​

Mar 19 - Wednesday drop​

Mar 18 - Tuesday drops​

Mar 17 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance​

Mar 13 - Thursday drops​

Mar 12 - Wednesday drops​

Mar 11 - Tuesday drops​

Mar 10 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance​

Mar 6 - Thursday drops​

Mar 5 - Wednesday drops​

Mar 4 - Tuesday drop​

Mar 3 - Weekly Sale - Last chance​

Feb 27 - Thursday drops​

Feb 26 - Wednesday drop​

Feb 25 - Tuesday drops​

Feb 24 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance​

Feb 20 - Thursday drops​

Feb 19 - Wednesday drops​

Feb 17 - Weekly Sale - Last chance​

Feb 13 - Thursday drops (Anime Month)​

Feb 12 - Wednesday drops​

Feb 11 - Tuesday drops​

Feb 10 - Weekly Sale - Last chance​

Feb 7 - Thursday drops​

Feb 5 - Wednesday drops​

Feb 3 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance​

Jan 30 - Anime Month​

Jan 29 - Wednesday drops (Team17 sale)​

Jan 28 - Tuesday drops​

Jan 27 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance​

Jan 24 - Lunar New Year sale follow up​

Jan 23 - Lunar New Year sale​

Jan 22 - Wednesday drops​

Jan 20 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance​

Jan 14 - Tuesday drops​

Jan 13 - Weekly Sale - Last chance​

Jan 8 - Wednesday drops (Wired Productions sale)​

Jan 7 - Tuesday drops (Wired Productions sale)​

Jan 6 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance​

Jan 3 - Beyond Countdown follow up​

Jan 2 - Beyond Countdown Sale​

Jan 1 - Wednesday drop​

Latest Countdown Posts​

Apr 21 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Apr 16 - Spring Sale final countdown​

Apr 14 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Apr 7 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Mar 31 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Mar 24 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Mar 20 - Spring Sale​

Mar 17 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Mar 10 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Mar 3 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Feb 24 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Feb 17 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Feb 10 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Feb 3 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Jan 27 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Jan 23 - Lunar New Year sale countdown​

Jan 20 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Jan 13 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Jan 10 - Lunar New Year sale countdown​

Jan 6 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Game Pass potential departure dates​

Last updated - 2025-05-01
What is this?
Game prices in the Xbox store have a UTC end date associated with them. These dates generally fall into 5 categories :
  1. The item is currently on sale. These are usually the weekly sale items that end Tuesday mornings at 09:59:59 UTC.
  2. The item will go on sale, usually within 2-3 weeks. These are usually set to switch at 23:59:59 UTC, like the weekly sale on Monday evenings. Some of the major annual sales (Spring, Summer, Black Friday, Holiday) start on Thursday evening UTC, and some times appear to be random.
  3. The item is on Game Pass and is not currently or going to be on sale in the next few weeks. Third party games generally cluster around 09:59:59 UTC on the 1st and 16th of each month. Currently, at least one game is associated with every 1st and 16th through January 2026. The dates then spread out, ending with Human Fall Flat on July 1, 2028.
  4. First party and EA Play titles are farther out, starting in 2049, with many in 2799 and 9998.
  5. No date - some items do not have a price and so don't have a date. If the item is part of a bundle that has a price, the date from the bundle is used.
The list below uses the dates associated with games on Game Pass and EA Play. Time stamps in red are the regular Game Pass departure times and titles in red are confirmed to be leaving, either from Microsoft's regular news postings or by devs / publishers. Items available through Game Pass Core, currently on sale or not available for purchase are also color coded.

The date associated with a Game Pass game is not a guarantee it will leave on that date, but since March 2023 when the price data started getting analyzed, every game that's left Game Pass had been flagged as leaving on that date. It's given a number of people an extra heads up on the generally 2 week notice Microsoft provides.

If you have any questions about the list, please ask in the thread.

Most likely current and pending sales
2025-05-05 23:59:59
An Elder Scrolls Legend: Battlespire (PC)​
Arx Fatalis (PC)​
Ashen​
Assassin's Creed Origins​
Borderlands 3: Ultimate Edition​
Dead by Daylight​
DREDGE​
Fallout 3​
Fallout 3: Game of the Year Edition (PC)​
Fallout Tactics (PC)​
Flintlock: The Siege of Dawn​
For The King II​
Grand Theft Auto Online (Xbox Series X|S) - Grand Theft Auto V: Story Mode (Xbox Series X|S)​
Grand Theft Auto Online (Xbox Series X|S) (Not available for purchase)​
Grand Theft Auto V (Xbox One & Xbox Series X|S)​
Grand Theft Auto V (Xbox One) (Not available for purchase)​
Mafia: Definitive Edition​
Mafia: Definitive Edition (PC)​
PlateUp!​
South Park: The Fractured but Whole​
The Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard (PC)​
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind Game of the Year Edition (PC)​

2025-05-06 09:59:59
Flock​
Isonzo​
Isonzo (Windows)​
Legend of Mana​
Monster Sanctuary - Game Pass Core​
Neon Abyss​
Neon White​
OCTOPATH TRAVELER​
OCTOPATH TRAVELER II​
PowerWash Simulator - Game Pass Core​
SnowRunner - Game Pass Core​
SnowRunner (Windows 10)​
STAR WARS Battlefront (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2018-11-11​
STAR WARS Battlefront II - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
STAR WARS Jedi: Fallen Order - EA Play - 2020-11-10​
STAR WARS Jedi: Survivor - EA Play -​
STAR WARS Jedi: Survivor Xbox One - EA Play -​
STAR WARS: Squadrons - EA Play -​
The Gunk​
TRIALS of MANA​
We Love Katamari REROLL+ Royal Reverie​

2025-05-12 23:59:59
Age of Empires Definitive Edition (PC)​
Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition​
Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition (Not available for purchase)​
Age of Empires III: Definitive Edition (PC)​
Age of Empires IV: Anniversary Edition​
Age of Empires IV: Anniversary Edition (PC)​
Age of Mythology: Retold​
Ara: History Untold (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
Ara: History Untold Standard Edition (PC)​
Ara: History Untold, Alexander the Great (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
Ara: History Untold, Confucius (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
Ara: History Untold, Harriet Tubman (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
Ara: History Untold, John A. Macdonald (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
Arcade Paradise​
As Dusk Falls​
Avowed (Not available for purchase)​
Avowed Standard Edition​
Bleeding Edge​
BLiNX: The Time Sweeper​
Broken Age​
Broken Age (PC)​
Brütal Legend​
Costume Quest​
Crackdown 3​
Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge​
Disneyland Adventures​
Fuzion Frenzy​
Galacticare​
Gears 5 - Boost: 30 Day Bonus (Not available for purchase) - Game Pass Core​
Gears 5 Game of the Year Edition - Game Pass Core​
Gears 5 Ultimate-Add-On (Not available for purchase) - Game Pass Core​
Gears 5: Hivebusters - Game Pass Core​
Gears of War 4​
Gears Tactics​
Gears Tactics - Base Game (Not available for purchase)​
Goat Simulator: Remastered​
Grounded - Game Pass Core​
Halo 5: Guardians - Game Pass Core​
Halo Infinite (Campaign)​
Halo Wars 2 - Welcome to the Ark (Not available for purchase) - Game Pass Core​
Halo Wars 2 (Not available for purchase) - Game Pass Core​
Halo Wars 2: Standard Edition - Game Pass Core​
Halo Wars: Definitive Edition​
Halo: The Master Chief Collection​
Halo: The Master Chief Collection - Halo 3: ODST​
Halo: The Master Chief Collection - Halo: Reach​
Halo: The Master Chief Collection (Not available for purchase)​
Hypnospace Outlaw​
Joy Ride Turbo​
Killer Instinct: Anniversary Edition​
Mass Effect - EA Play -​
MASSIVE CHALICE​
Max: The Curse of Brotherhood​
Microsoft Flight Simulator - Digital Ownership (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
Microsoft Flight Simulator (Not available for purchase)​
Microsoft Flight Simulator Standard 40th Anniversary Edition​
Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition​
Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition (PC)​
Pentiment​
Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire - Ultimate Edition​
Pillars of Eternity: Complete Edition​
Pillars of Eternity: Definitive Edition (PC)​
Pillars of Eternity: Hero Edition - Pillars of Eternity: Royal Edition Upgrade Pack (PC)​
Pillars of Eternity: Hero Edition - Pillars of Eternity: The White March Part I (PC)​
Pillars of Eternity: Hero Edition - Pillars of Eternity: The White March Part II (PC)​
Pillars of Eternity: Hero Edition (PC)​
Psychonauts​
Psychonauts (Windows 10)​
Psychonauts 2 - Game Pass Core​
Quantum Break​
Quantum Break (PC)​
ReCore​
Rise of Nations: Extended Edition (PC)​
Rolling Hills: Make Sushi, Make Friends​
Rush: A DisneyPixar Adventure​
Ryse: Legendary Edition​
Ryse: Son of Rome - Blade of Favor (Not available for purchase)​
Ryse: Son of Rome - Centurion Gladiator Skin (Not available for purchase)​
Ryse: Son of Rome - Glott Gladiator Skin (Not available for purchase)​
Ryse: Son of Rome - Gorgon's Fury (Not available for purchase)​
Ryse: Son of Rome - Legendary Edition Bonus Bundle (Not available for purchase)​
Ryse: Son of Rome - Marius Gladiator Skin (Not available for purchase)​
Ryse: Son of Rome (Not available for purchase)​
ScreamRide​
Sea of Thieves: 2025 Edition​
Stacking​
State of Decay 2: Juggernaut Edition - Game Pass Core​
State of Decay: Year-One (Not available for purchase)​
Sunset Overdrive​
Tell Me Why: Chapter 2 (Not available for purchase)​
Tell Me Why: Chapter 3 (Not available for purchase)​
Tell Me Why: Chapters 1-3​
The Bard's Tale ARPG : Remastered and Resnarkled​
The Bard's Tale IV: Director's Cut​
The Bard's Tale Trilogy - EA Play -​
Torment: Tides of Numenera​
Torment: Tides of Numenera (PC)​
Wasteland 2: Director's Cut​
Wasteland Remastered​
We Happy Few​
Zoo Tycoon: Ultimate Animal Collection​

2025-05-13 09:59:59
Borderlands 3 Season Pass​
Borderlands 3: Season Pass 2​
Overcooked! 2 - Game Pass Core​
Shadow of the Tomb Raider Definitive Edition Extra Content​

2025-05-15 09:59:59
Blizzard Arcade Collection​
Call of Duty (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 - Content Pack 1 (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 - Content Pack 1 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 - Cross-Gen Bundle​
Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 - Standard Edition (Windows)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III - Content Pack 1 (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III - Content Pack 1 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III - Content Pack 2 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III - Content Pack 3 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III - Content Pack 4 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III - Content Pack 5 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III - Cross-Gen Bundle​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III - Standard Edition (PC)​
Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy​
Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy (PC)​
Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - Ultimate Evil Edition (Not available for purchase)​
Diablo IV (Not available for purchase)​
Spyro Reignited Trilogy​
Spyro Reignited Trilogy (PC)​

2025-05-01 15:59:59
Anno 1800 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II - Content Pack 1 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II - Content Pack 2 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II - Content Pack 3 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II - Content Pack 5 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II - Content Pack 6 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II - Cross-Gen Bundle​
Citizen Sleeper 2: Starward Vector​
2025-05-05 17:59:59
Revenge of the Savage Planet (Not available for purchase)​
Revenge of the Savage Planet PC (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
2025-05-06 23:59:59
Dungeons Of Hinterberg​
Metal Slug Tactics​
2025-05-07 21:59:59
Still Wakes the Deep​
2025-05-07 23:59:59
MechWarrior 5: Clans​
South of Midnight​
2025-05-08 09:59:59
Farming Simulator 22​
Farming Simulator 22 PC (PC)​
2025-05-08 13:59:59
The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited - The Elder Scrolls Online: Morrowind Upgrade (Not available for purchase) - Game Pass Core​
The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited (Not available for purchase) - Game Pass Core​
2025-05-08 23:59:59
Commandos: Origins​
Commandos: Origins (Win) (PC)​
2025-05-10 14:59:59
Blue Prince​
2025-05-14 09:59:59
Fable Anniversary - Game Pass Core​
Fable II​
Fable III​
Forza Motorsport Standard Edition​
2025-05-14 23:59:59
DOOM: The Dark Ages (Not available for purchase)​
DOOM: The Dark Ages Standard Edition​
DOOM: The Dark Ages Void DOOM Slayer Skin (Not available for purchase)​
2025-05-16 09:59:59
Brothers: a Tale of Two Sons​
Brothers: a Tale of Two Sons (PC)​
Chants of Sennaar​
Chants of Sennaar (Windows)​
Dune: Spice Wars (moved from 2025-06-01)​
Farming Simulator 22​
Farming Simulator 22 PC (PC)​
Hauntii​
Jurassic World Evolution 2​
Little Kitty, Big City​
Planet of Lana​
The Big Con (moved from 2025-06-01)​
2025-05-17 06:59:59
Crime Scene Cleaner​
2025-05-17 14:59:59
Tempopo​
2025-05-20 23:59:59
Senua's Saga: Hellblade II​
2025-05-21 23:59:59
Creatures of Ava​
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - Xbox Edition​
2025-05-22 14:59:59
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered​
2025-05-24 06:59:59
Clair Obscur: Expedition 33​
2025-06-01 09:59:59
Against the Storm (PC)​
Cassette Beasts​
Firework (Windows)​
Generation Zero​
Goat Simulator 3​
Goat Simulator 3: Windows Edition​
Goat Simulator 3: Xbox One Edition​
Humanity​
Hypnospace Outlaw​
LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga (Game Pass only SKU) (Not available for purchase) (moved from 2025-05-01)​
Moving Out 2​
PAYDAY 2: CRIMEWAVE EDITION (Not available for purchase) - Game Pass Core​
Remnant II - Standard Edition​
Rolling Hills: Make Sushi, Make Friends​
Slayers X: Terminal Aftermath: Vengance of the Slayer​
2025-06-04 16:59:59
One Lonely Outpost​
2025-06-10 23:59:59
MULLET MADJACK​
2025-06-13 11:59:59
The Alters​
2025-06-16 09:59:59
Depersonalization (PC)​
Dordogne​
Dordogne (Windows)​
Far Cry 6​
Isonzo​
Isonzo (Windows)​
Keplerth (PC)​
My Time at Sandrock​
My Time at Sandrock (Not available for purchase)​
My Time at Sandrock Online (Not available for purchase)​
REMATCH (Not available for purchase)​
Shadowrun Returns​
Shadowrun Trilogy​
Shadowrun: Dragonfall - Director's Cut​
Shadowrun: Hong Kong - Extended Edition​
The Callisto Protocol (Not available for purchase)​
The Callisto Protocol for Xbox One​
The Callisto Protocol for Xbox Series X|S​
The Callisto Protocol for Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase)​
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege (Not available for purchase)​
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege Deluxe Edition​
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege Year 1 Operators (Not available for purchase)​
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege Year 2 Operators (Not available for purchase)​
2025-06-16 14:59:59
33 Immortals (Game Preview)​
2025-06-19 09:59:59
REMATCH (Not available for purchase)​
2025-06-25 13:59:59
Atomfall​
2025-07-01 09:59:59
Arcade Paradise​
Journey To The Savage Planet: Employee Of The Month​
Journey To The Savage Planet: Employee Of The Month (PC)​
Persona 3 Reload (moved from 2025-02-01)​
Robin Hood - Sherwood Builders​
SteamWorld Dig​
SteamWorld Dig 2​
2025-07-11 03:59:59
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 + 4 - Content Pack (Not available for purchase)​
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 + 4 - Cross-Gen Edition​
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 + 4 - Wireframe Tony Shader (Not available for purchase)​
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 + 4 (Not available for purchase)​
2025-07-15 09:59:59
Turnip Boy Robs a Bank​
2025-07-16 09:59:59
Assassin's Creed Valhalla​
Cricket 24​
Cricket 24: The Official Game Of The Ashes (PC)​
Flock​
Gigantic: Rampage Edition​
Kunitsu-Gami: Path of the Goddess​
Mafia: Definitive Edition​
Mafia: Definitive Edition (PC)​
Magical Delicacy (moved from 2026-07-16)​
Moonlighter (moved from 2024-12-01)​
No Man's Sky​
Tchia​
The Case of the Golden Idol​
2025-07-24 01:59:59
WUCHANG: Fallen Feathers (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
WUCHANG: Fallen Feathers (Not available for purchase)​
2025-08-01 09:59:59
Cooking Simulator​
Cooking Simulator Windows​
Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord (moved from 2025-02-01)​
NINJA GAIDEN 3: Razor's Edge (Not available for purchase)​
NINJA GAIDEN Σ (Not available for purchase)​
NINJA GAIDEN Σ2 (Not available for purchase)​
NINJA GAIDEN: Master Collection​
Starbound (PC)​
2025-08-16 09:59:59
Atlas Fallen (Not available for purchase)​
Atlas Fallen: Reign of Sand​
Atlas Fallen: Reign of Sand - Free Upgrade​
Atlas Fallen: Reign of Sand (Windows)​
PlateUp!​
2025-09-01 09:59:59
Borderlands 3​
Borderlands 3 (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
Borderlands 3 Gearbox Cosmetic Pack​
Borderlands 3 Gold Weapon Skins Pack​
Borderlands 3 Neon Cosmetic Pack​
Borderlands 3 Retro Cosmetic Pack​
Borderlands 3 Season Pass​
Borderlands 3 Toy Box Weapons Pack​
Borderlands 3: Season Pass 2​
Borderlands 3: Ultimate Edition​
Borderlands 3: Ultimate Edition (PC)​
Call of the Wild: The Angler​
Core Keeper​
Core Keeper (PC)​
Sea of Stars​
This War of Mine: Final Cut​
2025-09-16 09:59:59
RESIDENT EVIL 2​
Train Sim World 5: Free Starter Pack - Train Sim World 5: Frankfurt - Fulda: Kinzigtalbahn​
Train Sim World 5: Free Starter Pack - Train Sim World 5: San Bernardino Line: Los Angeles - San Bernardino​
Train Sim World 5: Free Starter Pack - Train Sim World 5: West Coast Main Line: London Euston - Milton Keynes​
Train Sim World 5: Standard Edition​
Wargroove 2​
2025-10-01 09:59:59
All You Need is Help​
Cocoon​
Sifu​
Terra Invicta (Game Preview) (PC) (moved from 2025-04-01)​
We Love Katamari REROLL+ Royal Reverie​
2025-10-16 09:59:59
A Plague Tale: Requiem​
A Plague Tale: Requiem - Windows​
Cities: Skylines II - PC Edition (PC)​
Donut County​
Grand Theft Auto Online (Xbox Series X|S) - Grand Theft Auto V: Story Mode (Xbox Series X|S)​
Grand Theft Auto Online (Xbox Series X|S) (Not available for purchase)​
Grand Theft Auto V (Xbox One & Xbox Series X|S)​
Grand Theft Auto V (Xbox One) (Not available for purchase)​
Grand Theft Auto V (Xbox Series X|S)​
Grand Theft Auto V Enhanced (PC)​
Grand Theft Auto V Enhanced (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
Grand Theft Auto V Legacy (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
RESIDENT EVIL 3 for Windows​
SpongeBob SquarePants: The Patrick Star Game​
2025-11-01 09:59:59
Dead Island 2​
Dead Island 2 (Windows)​
Jusant​
Metal Slug Tactics​
Return to Monkey Island​
Wartales​
2025-11-16 09:59:59
Football Manager 2024 (PC)​
Football Manager 2024 Console​
Frostpunk (PC)​
Frostpunk: Console Edition​
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - Windows Edition​
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - Xbox Edition​
Spirittea​
2025-12-01 09:59:59
Aliens: Dark Descent​
Aliens: Dark Descent (Windows)​
Car Mechanic Simulator 2021 (moved from 2024-12-01)​
Clone Drone in the Danger Zone​
Genesis Noir (moved from 2025-03-01)​
Genesis Noir: Windows Edition (moved from 2025-03-01)​
Lords of the Fallen​
Lords of the Fallen (PC)​
OCTOPATH TRAVELER​
OCTOPATH TRAVELER II​
PAW Patrol Mighty Pups Save Adventure Bay​
SteamWorld Build​
2025-12-16 09:59:59
Ben 10: Power Trip​
Hollow Knight: Voidheart Edition​
Hunt: Showdown 1896​
Mortal Kombat 11​
Still Wakes the Deep​
Wildfrost​
2026-01-01 09:59:59
Carrion​
Carrion (PC)​
Hell Let Loose​
House Flipper​
Injustice 2​
Injustice 2 - Standard Edition (PC)​
Middle-earth: Shadow of War​
Middle-earth: Shadow of War - Standard Edition Content (Not available for purchase)​
Middle-earth: Shadow of War (Not available for purchase)​
Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl 2​
Road 96​
2026-01-16 09:59:59
Flintlock: The Siege of Dawn​
Lonely Mountains: Snow Riders​
Medieval Dynasty​
Medieval Dynasty (Xbox One)​
Neon White​
Palworld (Game Preview) (moved from 2025-02-01)​
Starbound​
2026-02-01 09:59:59
Brotato (moved from 2025-02-01)​
Orcs Must Die! Deathtrap​
Shady Part of Me​
Shady Part of Me (Windows)​
2026-03-01 09:59:59
Bluey: The Videogame (moved from 2025-03-01)​
Disney Dreamlight Valley​
Expeditions: A MudRunner Game​
Expeditions: A MudRunner Game (Windows)​
Monster Train​
Nine Sols​
2026-03-16 09:59:59
Enter The Gungeon​
Lightyear Frontier (Game Preview)​
Mythwrecked: Ambrosia Island​
2026-04-01 09:59:59
Cities: Skylines - Remastered​
Cities: Skylines - Windows 10 Edition (PC)​
Cities: Skylines - Xbox One Edition - Game Pass Core​
Mad Streets​
NARAKA: BLADEPOINT​
SMITE 2 (Game Preview)​
THE FINALS​
2026-04-16 09:59:59
Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes​
Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes (Not available for purchase)​
Hunt: Showdown 1896 (Windows)​
Inscryption​
Shadow of the Tomb Raider Definitive Edition​
2026-05-01 09:59:59
Another Crab's Treasure​
Ashen​
Citizen Sleeper​
Creatures of Ava​
DayZ - Game Pass Core​
Descenders - Game Pass Core​
Goat Simulator - Game Pass Core​
Goat Simulator: Remastered​
Goat Simulator: Remastered (Windows Edition)​
Manor Lords (Game Preview) (PC)​
2026-05-16 09:59:59
Galacticare​
Shadowrun Returns PC (PC)​
Shadowrun: Dragonfall - Director's Cut PC (PC)​
Shadowrun: Hong Kong - Extended Edition PC (PC)​
2026-06-01 09:59:59
ASTRONEER - Game Pass Core​
Dead by Daylight​
Dead by Daylight Windows​
Payday 2: Crimewave Edition - Game Pass Core​
theHunter: Call of the Wild​
theHunter: Call of the Wild - Windows 10​
World War Z​
World War Z - WWZ Upgrade to Aftermath​
World War Z (PC)​
World War Z: Aftermath​
World War Z: Aftermath (PC)​
World War Z: Aftermath Upgrade (PC)​
2026-06-16 09:59:59
Among Us - Game Pass Core​
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge - Game Pass Core​
2026-07-01 09:59:59
Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Not available for purchase)​
Slay The Spire - Game Pass Core​
Slay The Spire (PC)​
Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition (moved from 2025-05-01)​
Unpacking - Game Pass Core​
Warhammer 40,000: Darktide​
2026-07-16 09:59:59
Dungeons Of Hinterberg​
Golf With Your Friends - Game Pass Core​
Golf With Your Friends (Windows Version)​
PowerWash Simulator - Game Pass Core​
Stellaris (PC)​
Stellaris: Console Edition​
Techtonica (Game Preview)​
2026-08-01 09:59:59
Celeste - Game Pass Core​
Crusader Kings III (moved from 2025-02-01)​
Crusader Kings III (PC) (moved from 2025-02-01)​
Go Mecha Ball​
INSIDE - Game Pass Core​
Roboquest​
Sniper Elite: Resistance​
2026-08-16 09:59:59
Firewatch - Game Pass Core​
LIMBO - Game Pass Core​
LIMBO (PC)​
Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader​
2026-09-01 09:59:59
Neon Abyss​
Neon Abyss (PC)​
Star Trucker​
2026-09-16 09:59:59
Dead Cells - Game Pass Core​
Dead Cells (PC)​
Spiritfarer: Farewell Edition - Game Pass Core​
Superliminal - Game Pass Core​
2026-10-01 09:59:59
Chivalry 2 - Game Pass Core​
2026-11-01 09:59:59
Deep Rock Galactic - Game Pass Core​
2026-11-16 09:59:59
Frostpunk 2 (PC)​
Wreckfest - Game Pass Core​
Wreckfest (PC)​
2026-12-01 09:59:59
Legend of Mana​
Monster Sanctuary - Game Pass Core​
Monster Sanctuary (Windows Version)​
Overthrown (Game Preview)​
Stardew Valley - Game Pass Core​
Stardew Valley (PC)​
Totally Reliable Delivery Service - Game Pass Core​
TRIALS of MANA​
Vampire Survivors - Game Pass Core​
2026-12-16 09:59:59
For The King II​
2027-01-01 09:59:59
VALORANT​
2027-01-16 09:59:59
NINJA GAIDEN 2 Black​
2027-02-01 09:59:59
Eternal Strands​
Trailmakers​
2027-02-16 09:59:59
Kingdom Two Crowns​
2027-03-01 09:59:59
Balatro​
2027-03-16 09:59:59
Control - Game Pass Core​
Control Expansion 1 "The Foundation" - Game Pass Core​
Control Expansion 2 "AWE" - Game Pass Core​
Control Season Pass - Game Pass Core​
Control Standard Edition - Control Expansion Pack 1 The Foundation (PC)​
Control Standard Edition - Control Expansion Pack 2 AWE (PC)​
Control Standard Edition (PC)​
Control Ultimate Edition - Game Pass Core​
Control Ultimate Edition - Xbox Series X|S - Game Pass Core​
Control Ultimate Edition (PC)​
TUNIC - Game Pass Core​
2027-04-01 09:59:59
SUPERHOT: MIND CONTROL DELETE - Game Pass Core​
Zombie Army 4: Dead War (moved from 2025-04-01)​
2027-05-01 09:59:59
SnowRunner - Game Pass Core​
SnowRunner - Anniversary DLC - Game Pass Core​
SnowRunner (Windows 10)​
SnowRunner (Not available for purchase) - Game Pass Core​
2027-06-01 09:59:59
Batman: Arkham Knight - Game Pass Core​
Terraria​
2027-06-16 09:59:59
Totally Accurate Battle Simulator​
2027-07-01 09:59:59
Assassin's Creed Odyssey​
Assassin's Creed Origins​
Far Cry 5​
FOR HONOR​
FOR HONOR - Standard Edition (Not available for purchase)​
Immortals Fenyx Rising​
My Friend Peppa Pig​
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Wildlands - Standard Edition (Game Pass only SKU)​
Watch Dogs2​
2027-09-16 09:59:59
Riders Republic​
Riders Republic (Not available for purchase)​
2027-10-16 09:59:59
South Park: The Fractured but Whole​
2027-12-16 09:59:59
Overcooked! 2 - Game Pass Core​
Overcooked! 2 (PC)​
2028-02-01 09:59:59
Far Cry New Dawn​
2028-05-01 09:59:59
Far Cry 4​
2028-07-01 09:59:59
Human Fall Flat - Game Pass Core​
Watch Dogs: Legion​

Far future dates, mostly first party and EA Play
2048-09-10 23:59:59
NHL 25 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​
2048-12-30 23:59:59
Dead Space - EA Play - 2023-10-26​
EA SPORTS College Football 25 - EA Play -​
EA SPORTS FC 24 Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​
EA SPORTS FC 24 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​
EA SPORTS PGA TOUR - EA Play -​
F1 23 (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​
F1 24 - EA Play -​
GRID Legends - EA Play - 2022-09-01​
Madden NFL 24 (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​
Madden NFL 24 Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​
Madden NFL 24 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​
Madden NFL 25 Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​
Madden NFL 25 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​
STAR WARS Jedi: Survivor - EA Play -​
Super Mega Baseball 4 - EA Play -​
UFC 5 - EA Play -​
WILD HEARTS Standard Edition - EA Play -​
2049-12-30 23:59:59
Age of Empires IV: Anniversary Edition​
Age of Empires IV: Anniversary Edition (4K HDR bundle) (PC)​
NHL 24 Xbox One - EA Play -​
NHL 24 Xbox Series X|S - EA Play -​
2098-12-31 23:59:59
Battlefield 1 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
NBA LIVE 19 - EA Play - 2019-05-10​
Plants vs. Zombies Garden Warfare 2 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
2099-02-01 19:59:59
Halo Wars 2: Standard Edition - Game Pass Core​
2099-04-04 09:59:59
Halo Wars 2 (Not available for purchase) - Game Pass Core​
2099-04-18 09:59:59
The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 2​
The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 3​
The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 4​
The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 5​
The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Season Pass (Episodes 2-5)​
The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - The Complete Season (Episodes 1-5)​
2099-12-29 23:59:59
State of Decay 2: Juggernaut Edition - Game Pass Core​
2100-06-12 23:59:59
Max: The Curse of Brotherhood​
2220-10-06 03:59:59
Need for Speed Hot Pursuit Remastered - EA Play - 2021-06-25​
2220-10-13 23:59:59
Mass Effect Legendary Edition - EA Play -​
2220-10-22 23:59:59
Battlefield V (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2020-06-20​
2220-12-11 23:59:59
It Takes Two - Digital Version - EA Play - 2021-11-03​
2229-01-03 23:59:59
ARK: Survival Evolved Season Pass​
2779-12-30 23:59:59
DIRT 5 - EA Play - 2021-08-10​
DiRT Rally 2.0 - EA Play - 2021-08-10​
2798-12-30 21:59:59
Wasteland Remastered​
2798-12-31 23:59:59
Fuzion Frenzy​
The Elder Scrolls Online - Game Pass Core​
Zoo Tycoon: Ultimate Animal Collection​
2799-01-14 23:59:59
Age of Empires III: Definitive Edition (PC)​
2799-02-01 09:59:59
Halo Wars 2 (PC) (Not available for purchase) - Game Pass Core​
2799-02-08 09:59:59
The Walking Dead: The Complete First Season​
2799-02-08 23:59:59
Forza Horizon 5 Standard Edition​
2799-02-17 23:59:59
Wolfenstein: Youngblood​
Wolfenstein: Youngblood (PC)​
2799-02-28 09:59:59
The Walking Dead: Season Two​
2799-03-02 23:59:59
Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary (PC)​
Halo: The Master Chief Collection - Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
2799-03-07 23:59:59
Halo Infinite (Campaign)​
2799-03-11 23:59:59
Dishonored Definitive Edition​
Dishonored Definitive Edition (PC)​
DOOM 3​
DOOM 64​
Fallout 4 - Game Pass Core​
Fallout 4 (PC)​
Prey (Cloud Gaming enabled)​
Prey (PC)​
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind​
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind​
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind Game of the Year Edition (PC)​
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion​
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Game of the Year Edition (PC) - 2009 (PC)​
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition (PC)​
The Evil Within​
The Evil Within (PC)​
Wolfenstein: The New Order​
Wolfenstein: The New Order (PC)​
Wolfenstein: The Old Blood​
Wolfenstein: The Old Blood (PC)​
2799-03-16 23:59:59
DOOM Eternal (BATTLEMODE - PC) (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
Fallout 76 - Game Pass Core​
Fallout 76 (PC)​
2799-03-24 07:59:59
Bleeding Edge​
2799-03-26 23:59:59
Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition​
The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 1, In Too Deep - The Walking Dead: Michonne - Season Pass​
2799-03-28 09:59:59
The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 1, In Too Deep​
The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 1, In Too Deep - The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 2, Give No Shelter​
The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 1, In Too Deep - The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 3, What We Deserve​
The Walking Dead: Michonne - The Complete Season​
2799-03-28 23:59:59
Lost in Random - EA Play - 2022-04-13​
2799-04-10 23:59:59
Ori and the Will of the Wisps - Game Pass Core​
2799-04-29 23:59:59
Joy Ride Turbo​
2799-04-30 08:59:59
Sea of Thieves: 2025 Edition​
2799-05-12 23:59:59
Psychonauts​
Psychonauts (Windows 10)​
2799-05-17 23:59:59
MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries​
2799-05-18 23:59:59
Wasteland 2: Director's Cut​
2799-05-31 23:59:59
Banjo Kazooie: N n B​
Banjo-Kazooie​
Banjo-Tooie​
Disneyland Adventures​
Fable III​
Gears of War​
Gears of War 2​
Gears of War: Judgment​
Gears of War: Ultimate Edition (Not available for purchase)​
Halo 5: Guardians - Game Pass Core​
Halo: Spartan Assault​
Jetpac Refuelled​
Kameo​
Perfect Dark Zero​
Rush: A DisneyPixar Adventure​
Sunset Overdrive​
Viva Piñata​
Viva Piñata: TIP​
2799-06-09 05:59:59
Crackdown 3​
Crackdown 3: Campaign (Not available for purchase)​
Crackdown 3: Wrecking Zone (Not available for purchase)​
Gears of War 4​
Gears of War: Ultimate Edition for Windows 10​
Halo: Spartan Assault (Mobile / PC)​
Halo: Spartan Strike​
Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice (PC)​
Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition (PC)​
ReCore​
2799-06-09 06:58:59
Halo Wars 2: Standard Edition (PC) - Game Pass Core​
Sunset Overdrive (PC)​
2799-06-09 23:59:59
Gears 5 - Game Pass Core​
The Outer Worlds​
The Outer Worlds (PC)​
2799-06-13 18:59:59
Arx Fatalis (PC)​
BATTLETECH (PC)​
Dishonored: Death of the Outsider​
Dishonored: Death of the Outsider (PC)​
DOOM​
Fallout (PC)​
Fallout 2 (PC)​
Fallout 3​
Fallout 3: Game of the Year Edition (PC)​
Fallout Tactics (PC)​
Fallout: New Vegas Ultimate Edition (PC)​
Psychonauts 2 - Game Pass Core​
RAGE​
The Evil Within 2​
The Evil Within 2 (PC)​
Wolfenstein II: Standard Edition (PC)​
Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus​
Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
2799-06-14 23:59:59
ScreamRide​
2799-06-17 23:59:59
The Bard's Tale ARPG : Remastered and Resnarkled​
2799-06-26 23:59:59
Torment: Tides of Numenera (PC)​
2799-06-30 23:59:59
Banjo Kazooie: N n B (Not available for purchase)​
Banjo-Kazooie (Not available for purchase)​
Banjo-Tooie (Not available for purchase)​
Fable II​
GoldenEye 007 (Not available for purchase)​
Jetpac Refuelled (Not available for purchase)​
Kameo (Not available for purchase)​
Perfect Dark​
Perfect Dark (Not available for purchase)​
Perfect Dark Zero (Not available for purchase)​
Rare Replay​
Rare Replay (Not available for purchase)​
Ryse: Legendary Edition​
Ryse: Son of Rome - Colosseum Pack​
Ryse: Son of Rome - Duel of Fates Pack​
Ryse: Son of Rome - Mars' Chosen Pack​
Ryse: Son of Rome - Morituri Pack​
Ryse: Son of Rome (Not available for purchase)​
State of Decay: Year-One (Not available for purchase)​
Viva Piñata (Not available for purchase)​
Viva Piñata: TIP (Not available for purchase)​
2799-07-13 23:59:59
Halo 3 (PC)​
Halo: The Master Chief Collection - Halo 3 (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
2799-07-18 23:59:59
BLiNX: The Time Sweeper​
Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge​
Microsoft Flight Simulator: Add-on Support​
2799-07-21 23:59:59
Grounded - Game Pass Core​
2799-07-24 23:59:59
Killer Instinct​
2799-08-13 14:59:59
The Bard's Tale Trilogy - EA Play -​
2799-08-16 23:59:59
Microsoft Solitaire Collection​
2799-08-17 23:59:59
New Super Lucky's Tale​
2799-08-19 14:59:59
Age of Empires Definitive Edition (PC)​
2799-08-19 19:59:59
Quake​
Quake III Arena (PC)​
2799-08-19 23:59:59
Battletoads​
2799-08-24 23:59:59
Halo Infinite​
2799-08-27 14:59:59
The Bard's Tale IV: Director's Cut​
2799-08-31 23:59:59
Fable Anniversary - Game Pass Core​
Gears of War 3​
Mass Effect - EA Play -​
2799-09-19 23:59:59
Tell Me Why​
Tell Me Why: Chapter 2 (Not available for purchase)​
Tell Me Why: Chapter 3 (Not available for purchase)​
Tell Me Why: Chapters 1-3​
Wasteland 3​
Wasteland 3 (PC)​
2799-09-22 02:59:59
Halo 3: ODST (PC)​
Halo: The Master Chief Collection - Halo 3: ODST (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
2799-09-30 23:59:59
Dishonored 2 - Game Pass Core​
Dishonored 2 (PC)​
DOOM Eternal Standard Edition - Game Pass Core​
Phoenix Point​
2799-10-07 23:59:59
Brütal Legend​
2799-10-10 23:59:59
The Sims 4 Get to Work - EA Play -​
2799-10-14 23:59:59
Fallout: New Vegas (BC)​
2799-10-27 23:59:59
Day of the Tentacle Remastered​
Full Throttle Remastered​
Grim Fandango Remastered​
2799-10-28 14:59:59
Age of Empires IV: Anniversary Edition - Age of Empires IV: 4K HDR Video Pack (PC)​
Age of Empires IV: Anniversary Edition (PC)​
2799-11-03 23:59:59
Minecraft Launcher (PC)​
2799-11-08 23:59:59
Battlefield 2042 Xbox One - EA Play -​
2799-11-09 15:59:59
Gears Tactics​
2799-11-14 23:59:59
Halo 4 (PC)​
Halo: Reach (PC)​
Halo: The Master Chief Collection​
Halo: The Master Chief Collection - Halo 3: ODST​
Halo: The Master Chief Collection - Halo 4 (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
Halo: The Master Chief Collection - Halo REACH (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
Halo: The Master Chief Collection - Halo: Reach​
Halo: The Master Chief Collection (PC)​
Halo: The Master Chief Collection (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
RAGE 2​
RAGE 2 (PC)​
2799-11-16 23:59:59
ARK: Survival Evolved​
ARK: Survival Evolved - ARK: Aberration (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
ARK: Survival Evolved - ARK: Extinction (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
ARK: Survival Evolved - ARK: Genesis Season Pass​
ARK: Survival Evolved - ARK: Genesis Season Pass (PC)​
ARK: Survival Evolved - ARK: Scorched Earth (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
ARK: Survival Evolved (PC)​
ARK: Survival Evolved Aberrant Skins (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
ARK: Survival Evolved Explorer's Edition (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
ARK: Survival Evolved Explorer's Edition (Not available for purchase)​
ARK: Survival Evolved Season Pass​
2799-11-23 00:59:59
Forza Horizon 5 (Not available for purchase)​
Forza Motorsport (Not available for purchase)​
2799-11-23 23:59:59
Gears 5 Game of the Year Edition - Game Pass Core​
2799-12-03 15:59:59
DOOM Eternal Standard Edition (PC)​
2799-12-07 23:59:59
Need for Speed Unbound - EA Play - 2023-06-22​
2799-12-11 23:59:59
Halo Wars: Definitive Edition (PC)​
2799-12-13 23:59:59
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition​
2799-12-17 23:59:59
Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice - Game Pass Core​
2799-12-30 23:59:59
Battlefield 2042 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2022-11-22​
Battlefield 4 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
Burnout Paradise Remastered - EA Play - 2018-11-11​
EA SPORTS WRC (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​
Fe - EA Play - 2018-09-03​
Immortals of Aveum - EA Play -​
Mirror's Edge Catalyst - EA Play - 2019-05-14​
Need for Speed - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
Need for Speed Heat - EA Play - 2020-07-14​
Need for Speed Payback - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
Need for Speed Rivals - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
NHL 94 REWIND - EA Play - 2021-03-01​
Peggle 2 - EA Play - 2019-05-14​
Plants vs. Zombies Garden Warfare - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
Plants vs. Zombies: Battle for Neighborville - EA Play - 2020-03-04​
STAR WARS Battlefront II - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
STAR WARS Jedi: Fallen Order - EA Play - 2020-11-10​
STAR WARS Jedi: Survivor Xbox One - EA Play -​
STAR WARS: Squadrons - EA Play -​
Super Mega Baseball 3 - EA Play - 2022-03-03​
The Sims 4 - EA Play -​
The Sims 4 EA Play Edition (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-05-22​
Titanfall 2 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
UFC 4 - EA Play -​
Unravel - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
Unravel Two - EA Play - 2019-01-19​
2799-12-31 22:59:59
ARK: Survival Ascended​
ARK: Survival Evolved - ARK: Aberrant Skins (Not available for purchase)​
ARK: Survival Evolved - ARK: Aberration (Not available for purchase)​
ARK: Survival Evolved - ARK: Extinction (Not available for purchase)​
ARK: Survival Evolved - ARK: Scorched Earth (Not available for purchase)​
ARK: Ultimate Survivor Edition​
As Dusk Falls​
Broken Age​
Call of Duty (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 - Content Pack 1 (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 - Content Pack 1 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 - Cross-Gen Bundle​
Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 - Standard Edition (Windows)​
Contrast​
Costume Quest​
Costume Quest 2​
Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy​
DEATHLOOP​
DOOM + DOOM II​
Gang Beasts - Game Pass Core​
Ghostwire: Tokyo​
Halo Wars: Definitive Edition​
Hi-Fi RUSH​
Killer Instinct: Anniversary Edition​
MASSIVE CHALICE​
Microsoft Flight Simulator Standard 40th Anniversary Edition​
Minecraft​
Minecraft Dungeons​
Minecraft Legends​
Ni no Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom - The Prince's Edition​
Ni no Kuni Wrath of the White Witch Remastered​
Pentiment​
Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire - Ultimate Edition​
Pillars of Eternity: Complete Edition​
Quake II​
Quantum Break​
Redfall​
skate. (2007) - EA Play - 2021-08-05​
Stacking​
The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1​
Torment: Tides of Numenera​
We Happy Few​
2999-12-30 23:59:59
It Takes Two - Digital Version Data (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​
It Takes Two (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​
9998-12-30 00:00:00
A Way Out - EA Play - 2019-11-02​
Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition​
Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition (Not available for purchase)​
Age of Mythology: Retold​
Alice: Madness Returns - EA Play - 2019-10-25​
An Elder Scrolls Legend: Battlespire (PC)​
Anthem - EA Play - 2019-10-09​
Ara: History Untold (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
Ara: History Untold Standard Edition (PC)​
Ara: History Untold, Alexander the Great (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
Ara: History Untold, Confucius (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
Ara: History Untold, Harriet Tubman (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
Ara: History Untold, John A. Macdonald (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
ARK: Ultimate Survivor Edition (PC)​
Army of Two - EA Play - 2018-11-11​
Battlefield 1 Apocalypse - EA Play -​
Battlefield 1 Deluxe Edition Content (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​
Battlefield 1 Hellfighter Pack (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​
Battlefield 1 In the Name of the Tsar - EA Play -​
Battlefield 1 Revolution - EA Play -​
Battlefield 1 They Shall Not Pass - EA Play -​
Battlefield 1 Turning Tides - EA Play -​
Battlefield 3 (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2011-10-08​
Battlefield Hardline (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2018-07-08​
Bejeweled 2 - EA Play - 2008-03-08​
Bejeweled 3 - EA Play - 2011-10-14​
BLACK - EA Play -​
Blizzard Arcade Collection​
Borderlands 3 Boost Mods Pack (Not available for purchase)​
Broken Age (PC)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II - Content Pack 1 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II - Content Pack 2 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II - Content Pack 3 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II - Content Pack 5 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II - Content Pack 6 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II - Cross-Gen Bundle​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III - Content Pack 1 (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III - Content Pack 1 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III - Content Pack 2 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III - Content Pack 3 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III - Content Pack 4 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III - Content Pack 5 (Not available for purchase)​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III - Cross-Gen Bundle​
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III - Standard Edition (PC)​
Call of Duty: Warzone​
Call of Duty: Warzone - Content Pack 4 (Not available for purchase)​
Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy (PC)​
Crash Team Racing Nitro-Fueled - Game Pass Core​
Crysis - EA Play - 2020-07-09​
Crysis 2 - EA Play - 2020-07-09​
Dante's Inferno - EA Play - 2018-08-02​
Dead Space (2008) - EA Play - 2008-10-08​
Dead Space 2 - EA Play -​
Dead Space 3 - EA Play -​
Dead Space Ignition - EA Play - 2010-10-13​
Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - Ultimate Evil Edition (Not available for purchase)​
Diablo IV (Not available for purchase)​
DOOM Eternal (BATTLEMODE) (Not available for purchase) - Game Pass Core​
Dragon Age 2 - EA Play -​
Dragon Age: Inquisition (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2014-10-28​
Dragon Age: Origins - EA Play -​
Feeding Frenzy - EA Play - 2008-03-15​
Feeding Frenzy 2 - EA Play - 2008-09-17​
FIGHT NIGHT CHAMPION - EA Play -​
Forza Motorsport Standard Edition​
Genshin Impact​
Halo 2: Anniversary (PC)​
Halo: The Master Chief Collection - Halo 2: Anniversary (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
Heavy Weapon - EA Play - 2008-03-15​
Indiana Jones and the Great Circle​
Killer Instinct (PC)​
Killer Instinct: Anniversary Edition (PC)​
Mass Effect 2 - EA Play -​
Mass Effect 3 - EA Play -​
Mass Effect: Andromeda (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2017-03-15​
MechWarrior 5: Clans​
Medal of Honor Airborne - EA Play - 2008-03-15​
Microsoft Flight Simulator (Not available for purchase)​
Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 - Standard Edition​
Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 (Not available for purchase)​
Minecraft Dungeons for Windows (Not available for purchase)​
Minecraft Dungeons for Windows + Launcher (PC)​
Minecraft for Windows (Not available for purchase)​
Minecraft Legends - Windows (Not available for purchase)​
Minecraft Legends for Windows + Launcher (PC)​
Minecraft: Java & Bedrock Edition for PC (PC)​
Minecraft: Java Edition (PC) (Not available for purchase)​
Mirror's Edge - EA Play - 2008-11-05​
Overwatch 2​
Peggle - EA Play - 2018-11-11​
Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire - Ultimate Edition (PC)​
Pillars of Eternity: Definitive Edition (PC)​
Pillars of Eternity: Hero Edition - Pillars of Eternity: Deadfire Pack (PC)​
Plants vs. Zombies - EA Play - 2010-09-24​
Quake 4 (PC)​
Quantum Break (PC)​
RESIDENT EVIL 3 for Xbox (Not available for purchase)​
Return to Castle Wolfenstein (PC)​
Rise of Nations: Extended Edition (PC)​
Sea of Solitude - EA Play - 2020-01-21​
Senua's Saga: Hellblade II​
Skate 3 - EA Play -​
Spyro Reignited Trilogy​
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Darthziggy said:
I don't think WQ was the "best" Bungie campaign but it was quite the return to old school, Halo 2/3/Reach on Legendary days, so it was a blast in that regard. But yeah, the seasonal model was and is still in place, so if that's not your bag, one good campaign for a few hours isn't going to change your mind. I'm fully invested now so I'm anxiously awaiting the showcase.
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I don't know, maybe I have nostalgia goggles but I didn't think WQ came remotely close to the Halo Legendary campaigns. I only remember two tough parts, and a lack of overall variety.

Maybe it comes down to Halo having a pretty limited tool set? I steamrolled through almost everything with my main Sunbreaker build modified to use Severance Enclosure because Dunemarchers had been nerfed, healing when I picked up the hammer. Same loadout of Witherhoard, the BXR, and alternating different elements of rocket launchers for the entire story.

Location-wise it wasn't even on par with Forsaken, let alone a base Destiny game or Halo campaign.
 
GamerSavage said:
The Gameflip addiction is real, lol. I bought New Super Lucky’s Tale, Huntdown and Legend Bowl within the last week or so. In other news, has anyone had trouble updating the Series Controller firmware? I’ve been trying to update my Lunar Shift controller to no avail.
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Me: "wtf is Legend Bowl" goes to gameflip, insta buy.

Yup, stupid cheap games.

 
This is surprising. Rockstar bought the team (company?) that makes/runs the servers for the extremely popular GTA Roleplay mods. As I understand it they were already pretty monetized, so that probably was about to kick into overdrive. This kind of mod being forced into corporate red tape seems like a negative to me, but I'm not the audience so I don't really know. Maybe it means console RP modes for GTA6.

https://twitter.com/RockstarGames/status/1689969964923432960?t=ZjnVDjuVM5Me9cdPDt2raw&s=19
 
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This is surprising. Rockstar bought the team (company?) that makes/runs the servers for the extremely popular GTA Roleplay mods. As I understand it they were already pretty monetized, so that probably was about to kick into overdrive. This kind of mod being forced into corporate red tape seems like a negative to me, but I'm not the audience so I don't really know. Maybe it means console RP modes for GTA6.

https://twitter.com/RockstarGames/status/1689969964923432960?t=ZjnVDjuVM5Me9cdPDt2raw&s=19
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I hate everything about GTA Online. Just hoping that it doesn't affect the quality of the single player story.

 
bee01 said:
I'm still plugging away because we got the "free" BP. I've only unlocked 1 of the experience ashes so far but the seasonal bonuses feel like a joke. I never played D3 but I was under the impression that leveling seasonal characters was supposed to be faster. I've been trying to craft a wrathful invoker to complete the challenge, and now I read they had the crafting rate for it set to 2 or 3%. WHY? It feels like too many of their design choices are made to make you waste time, so I'm bouncing after this season until an expansion is released.
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The Battlepass rewards have for sure been underwhelming. Also, it feels like they lowered the regular xp gains just so you have to use the smoldering ashes to get those xp boosts to bring you back to normal xp again, its really not a great feeling. They are really screwing up on Overwatch 2 and on this Diablo 4 stuff.

 
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Fortnite expansion, EA Sports games, Just Dance and that Call of Duty game that took place in World War II that isn't World at War.
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You mean CoD: WWII? :beer:

Just kidding. I forgot WWII existed before Vanguard too. Do COD games generally get discounted that low though? I don't remember if I've ever seen a retail COD game for less than $20 on sale.

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Deathloop and a buncha Ubi games.
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Immortals Fenyx Rising :razz:

 
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Kromis said:
You mean CoD: WWII? :beer:

Just kidding. I forgot WWII existed before Vanguard too. Do COD games generally get discounted that low though? I don't remember if I've ever seen a retail COD game for less than $20 on sale.

Immortals Fenyx Rising :razz:
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That Vanguard one is seemingly the one Best Buy has the most stock of based on how many times it goes on sale during these random ass whatever amount of days game sales.

Speaking of Duty Calling of War World II or whatever, isn't the Activision deal "suppose" to be done by next week or am I making up random dates?

 
Wouldn't be surprised if Saints Row or Gotham Knights are part of that sale. $10 would probably be my buy price for Gotham but I'm not sure I'd pay anything for SR.

 
bardockkun said:
That Vanguard one is seemingly the one Best Buy has the most stock of based on how many times it goes on sale during these random ass whatever amount of days game sales.

Speaking of Duty Calling of War World II or whatever, isn't the Activision deal "suppose" to be done by next week or am I making up random dates?
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It got extended to October now.
 
GamerSavage said:
The Gameflip addiction is real, lol. I bought New Super Lucky’s Tale, Huntdown and Legend Bowl within the last week or so. In other news, has anyone had trouble updating the Series Controller firmware? I’ve been trying to update my Lunar Shift controller to no avail.
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I think I buy a .75 game a day on GameFlip. lol Today's game of the day was Mail Mole. Also eyeballing Fruit Adventure, which I'll probably make tomorrow's game.

By the way, if you like RPGs, there is a 50 game bundle of Kemco RPG's that is being sold for around $15, regular price for this bundle is $200.

 
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By the way, if you like RPGs, there is a 50 game bundle of Kemco RPG's that is being sold for around $15, regular price for this bundle is $200.
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I think I buy a .75 game a day on GameFlip. lol Today's game of the day was Mail Mole. Also eyeballing Fruit Adventure, which I'll probably make tomorrow's game.

By the way, if you like RPGs, there is a 50 game bundle of Kemco RPG's that is being sold for around $15, regular price for this bundle is $200.
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Bought the bundle for 12,50 the other day with a voucher...already had 11 of the games, however I only paid for 5 of them, the rest came with Gold or from Giveaways. And the "paid" ones came from Gameflip as well..soo still a good deal =P

 
bardockkun said:
That Vanguard one is seemingly the one Best Buy has the most stock of based on how many times it goes on sale during these random ass whatever amount of days game sales.

Speaking of Duty Calling of War World II or whatever, isn't the Activision deal "suppose" to be done by next week or am I making up random dates?
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MS/ABK extended their merger agreement way out to October, but the CMA set a deadline for them to issue a final report/decision for 8/28.

And the CMA are the ones holding the deal up.

Assuming all goes well the deal should close late this month.

However, the CMA stated in their sworn testimony to the CAT that they would try to issue an updated provisional finding on the ABK deal this week - And that obviously hasn't happened....

 
RiPPn said:
I think I buy a .75 game a day on GameFlip. lol Today's game of the day was Mail Mole. Also eyeballing Fruit Adventure, which I'll probably make tomorrow's game.

By the way, if you like RPGs, there is a 50 game bundle of Kemco RPG's that is being sold for around $15, regular price for this bundle is $200.
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That's a really good deal on the RPG bundle, I have never used GameFlip though, always to nervous to buy codes for other regions with the thousands i've spent on games on my account.

 
Are you allowed to sell GameFlip codes to other users? Because I can't seem to get into my account at the moment, and I would much rather pay GameFlip's three dollars for Otogi than Microsoft's TWENTY dollars. If anyone would like to help me out, it'd be appreciated, and you will of course be reimbursed.

 
JohnnyCage said:
Wouldn't be surprised if Saints Row or Gotham Knights are part of that sale. $10 would probably be my buy price for Gotham but I'm not sure I'd pay anything for SR.
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Saints Row isn't a great game. But worth it at $10 I think. I paid $15.

On Playstation at least there was a bugged trophy that just got patched.

 
Forza Motorsport is unable to get split-screen working on Xbox. Not getting co-op to work on Halo Infinite after it being a staple of the franchise for the last two decades is unforgivable. And now with Baldur's Gate 3, shaping up to be one of the best games in video game history skipping xbox due to the devs not being able to get split-screen co-op mode working on the Series S and countless other games skipping Xbox entirely... I truly hope Xbox goes back to the drawing board and NEVER releases another Xbox Series S ever again! I didn't spend $600 on the World's most powerful console to have an entire generation crippled by an underpowered machine. This is ridiculous! If they wanted a cheaper console, they should just have made a disc-less Series X for $100 cheaper like Playstation did. The world's richest company and they can't hire some competent engineers? ENOUGH!

https://twitter.com/IdleSloth84_/status/1690061182990782464?s=20

 
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Forza Motorsport is unable to get split-screen working on Xbox. Not getting co-op to work on Halo Infinite after it being a staple of the franchise for the last two decades is unforgivable. And now with Baldur's Gate 3, shaping up to be one of the best games in video game history skipping xbox due to the devs not being able to get split-screen co-op mode working on the Series S and countless other games skipping Xbox entirely... I truly hope Xbox goes back to the drawing board and NEVER releases another Xbox Series S ever again! I didn't spend $600 on the World's most powerful console to have an entire generation crippled by an underpowered machine. This is ridiculous! If they wanted a cheaper console, they should just have made a disc-less Series X for $100 cheaper like Playstation did. The world's richest company and they can't hire some competent engineers? ENOUGH!

https://twitter.com/IdleSloth84_/status/1690061182990782464?s=20
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Did Larian recently announce that the Xbox version has been cancelled? Because AFAIK it's just delayed indefinitely until they can get the game working well on Series S.

 
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Did Larian recently announce that the Xbox version has been cancelled? Because AFAIK it's just delayed indefinitely until they can get the game working well on Series S.
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What makes you think Larian can get split-screen co-op working on Series S when Xbox OWN first party studios can't do it? Baldur's Gate will be coming to Playstation August 31st but not Xbox. That is a fact. And for once this has nothing to do with Sony moneyhatting the game.

The problem is that Series S only has 8 gigs of ram. Even the steam deck has 16 gigs of ram. That is how they are able to get BG3 working on a handheld like the steam deck but not Xbox. Anybody who's ever built a PC understands the importance of having more ram.

Microsoft's only option is to stop forcing parity between Series X and S. They did it with the Xbox 360 and Xbox One.

 
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Wait until people finally find out that teraflop has been used as a marketing gimmick and does not accurately tell how powerful your hardware is.
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The Series X is more powerful than PS5, but both consoles are close enough that it just depends on which console developers spend more time optimizing for which is usually PS5 since it has more users. PS5 uses higher clock speeds but less CUs, Xbox has lower clock speed but more CUs. This is like the intel duo cores vs quad cores from 2007 all over again. Many duo cores were able to hit higher clock speeds due to having less cores. It took time for game developers to take advantage of the extra cores in Quad core CPUs. Nobody would take a dual core over a quad core nowadays and even PS5 Pro will have more CUs in the future if it ever comes out.

Every company uses marketing gimmicks. Sony lied about the power of the SSD. They said many of their games would not be possible without the power of their magical SSD and yet it magically works on last gen hardware or even regular old mechanical harddrives when their game comes to PC even Ratchet and Clank. :rofl:

 
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The Series X is more powerful than PS5, but both consoles are close enough that it just depends on which console developers spend more time optimizing for which is usually PS5 since it has more users. PS5 uses higher clock speeds but less CUs, Xbox has lower clock speed but more CUs. This is like the intel duo cores vs quad cores from 2007 all over again. Many duo cores were able to hit higher clock speeds due to having less cores. It took time for game developers to take advantage of the extra cores in Quad core CPUs. Nobody would take a dual core over a quad core nowadays and even PS5 Pro will have more CUs in the future if it ever comes out.

Every company uses marketing gimmicks. Sony lied about the power of the SSD. They said many of their games would not be possible without the power of their magical SSD and yet it magically works on last gen hardware or even regular old mechanical harddrives when their game comes to PC even Ratchet and Clank. :rofl:
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Well, if you really know anything about actual computer hardware you would know there are big differences between minimum specs and recommended specs.

 
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Forza Motorsport is unable to get split-screen working on Xbox. Not getting co-op to work on Halo Infinite after it being a staple of the franchise for the last two decades is unforgivable.
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I am sad that only Nintendo seems to care about split screen and couch co-op gaming.
 
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The Series X is more powerful than PS5, but both consoles are close enough that it just depends on which console developers spend more time optimizing for which is usually PS5 since it has more users. PS5 uses higher clock speeds but less CUs, Xbox has lower clock speed but more CUs. This is like the intel duo cores vs quad cores from 2007 all over again. Many duo cores were able to hit higher clock speeds due to having less cores. It took time for game developers to take advantage of the extra cores in Quad core CPUs. Nobody would take a dual core over a quad core nowadays and even PS5 Pro will have more CUs in the future if it ever comes out.

Every company uses marketing gimmicks. Sony lied about the power of the SSD. They said many of their games would not be possible without the power of their magical SSD and yet it magically works on last gen hardware or even regular old mechanical harddrives when their game comes to PC even Ratchet and Clank. :rofl:
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Yeah I'm not sure why Microsoft decided to go "wide" with more CUs. I guess they didn't want a beefy cooling solution like the PS5 if they were go with higher clocks. I always thought the extra CUs were meant for some scalable Azure stuff since they were betting big on cloud gaming, like using idle Series X boards for some extra computing power for non-gaming applications (machine learning?) that could take advantage of GPU resources. Maybe that's what happened with the queues for cloud streaming? Either they winded down the servers to lower costs or reallocated the resources to something else.

I really hope Microsoft can flex their additional CU advantage but I don't think it is any time soon. I love Mark Cerny's developer-first approach to the design of the PS4 and PS5 to make development easier. (Warning - armchair dev rhetoric) This Xbox gen reminds me of the PS3 in some ways - hard to develop for and puts the onus on developers to really extract as much juice out of it rather than Microsoft providing good tools to extract that power. I think it was last gen where I read developers loved the PS4 tools over Xbox One's but I'm not sure what devs are saying now for Series consoles.

I applaud Microsoft for going with the two console approach and I have no doubt they will continue with this approach next generation (just based on the naming scheme). There's just going to be some major growing pains for now until Microsoft can get their tools sorted out or developers tune their engine for this "scalable" approach going forward.

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The lack of RAM in the Series S was super short sighted, especially since RAM prices have absolutely cratered since the consoles launched.  I don't think feature parity should have ever been a strict requirement.

Baldur's Gate 3 looks like it turned out to be an all time great RPG.  It's going to take a lot of GOTY votes away from Zelda.

 
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It's three years until the next console generation, man. Three years. People can't live with the Xbox Series S for three more years? Nintendo fans went from 2006-2012 with a regurgitated last generation system, and the world did not end as a result.

I'm sorry, I'm on Team Withered Technology here. It's way more important for me to be able to afford a game system than to ooh and aah at it. The $220 I spent on the Xbox Series S says it's an awesome game system.

 
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It's three years until the next console generation, man. Three years. People can't live with the Xbox Series S for three more years? Nintendo fans went from 2006-2012 with a regurgitated last generation system, and the world did not end as a result.

I'm sorry, I'm on Team Withered Technology here. It's way more important for me to be able to afford a game system than to ooh and aah at it. The $220 I spent on the Xbox Series S says it's an awesome game system.
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The series s is a great value and is good for what it it, but it’s acting as a bottleneck. I’d gladly pay more money to have access to all the third party games that can’t run on a series s. We are missing out on the potential GOTY because the XSS can’t handle it. This is only going to make more people switch to PlayStation.

People buy Nintendo for the low spec “fun family” games. People buy Xbox for the specs and “next gen” experience
 
And I think you should do more with less, so more players can be a part of gaming with less money. I recognize the bottleneck argument, but that doesn't seem like so much of a problem on Steam. Indeed, some games will not run at acceptable speeds on my older computers, but on my third gen laptop, I get good performance out of the 2D stuff, and fair performance from older 3D titles like Ultra Street Fighter IV. On my fourth gen desktop with a modest GPU (a GTX 970 with 4GB of RAM, which I understand is pretty small by today's standards), I haven't found much of anything in my library that I can't play.

It's an old machine, but Steam doesn't drop some arbitrary wall in my face saying that I absolutely cannot play these games. They're still compatible with my computers; they just may not run all that well, or may need to be run on lower settings. I'm willing to accept those compromises if a genuine effort is made to make the games work on older hardware, and I'm willing to accept those same compromises on the Xbox Series S as long as the cuts aren't too deep.

If developers can make Doom Eternal and the Witcher III work on the Nintendo Switch, they can make Baldur's Gate III work on the Xbox Series S. I'm unconvinced there's anything about this game so revolutionary that it's beyond the scope of the S on a fundamental level. Will it look worse, and perhaps run worse? Sure, but the core of the game could be preserved, even if the frame rate and graphics take a hit. The Series S and X are supposed to be scalable anyway; the S needs less horsepower because it outputs to 1080p instead of 4K. If you just own a 1080p television set, those added details would be lost to you even if you had an X.

tl;dr Gamers shouldn't be excluded from the hobby because they can't afford a five hundred dollar game system. Microsoft understands this; why doesn't anyone else?!

 
Sure. In theory you’re right. But it’s the developer’s call. If they deem “it’s too much work with not enough of payoff to optimize the game to run on series s” the end result is that the bottleneck is preventing XSX owners from playing the game. If Microsoft were to drop the requirement of requiring all games to run on both, then there wouldn’t be an issue. But as is, with the end result being XSX owners missing out, it’s an issue
 
Developers are lazy in general when it comes to performance. They don't want to optimize their code because that would require some effort. The Series S has more than enough power for the developers to work with it, but it is easier to just code against the latest PC hardware which is pretty much beyond any of the current gen consoles. These developers probably complain about the lacking hardware in the PS5 and Series X as well.  I remember back in the day of the Atari 2600 developers had to work with far more limitations and they were able to program some games that are still fun to play today. 

Me personally I don't really care about the latest hardware and fancy graphics. I am happy playing the XBox 360 Geometry Wars game on my Series X/S.  About the only graphic intense game I play is Forza Horizon 5 now and then for the heck of it. The graphics are nice, but it's more about just driving around and exploring for me than anything else. 

I do feel that Microsoft has a lack of focus of late other than Gamepass. I am not really sold on the subscription gaming thing, but I got in during the first Gold conversions and I have been keeping it going using rewards points.  Not sure how long I will continue with Gamepass or XBox if things keep going the way they have been. I don't feel any love for Switch or PS5 either. I don't really get excited about new games anymore other than remasters of old games I used to play a lot back in the day. I was bummed that Rise of the Triad remaster did not release on consoles like it did on PC recently.   At least Quake 2 was a pleasent surprise :)

 
It's the split-screen co-op gameplay part Larian Studios is having trouble with. Some of Microsoft's engineers from the Xbox Advanced Technology Group are giving them a hand and the game will launch on Xbox Series X|S, albeit later than on the PS5.

The alternative would be for them to drop that feature altogether (perhaps adding it at a later date) and having it launch at the same time as on the PS5.

Neither scenario is ideal. It's a choice between facing backlash for the game releasing later or by it lacking a feature.

 
Yes, because those engineers were able to work their magic with Halo Infinite and Forza 8. It's never the Series S hardware limitation, it's always those lazy developers.

 
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It's the split-screen co-op gameplay part Larian Studios is having trouble with. Some of Microsoft's engineers from the Xbox Advanced Technology Group are giving them a hand and the game will launch on Xbox Series X|S, albeit later than on the PS5.

The alternative would be for them to drop that feature altogether (perhaps adding it at a later date) and having it launch at the same time as on the PS5.

Neither scenario is ideal. It's a choice between facing backlash for the game releasing later or by it lacking a feature.
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Even if BG3 does end up coming to Xbox in 2024 how is that acceptable? What if Larian can't get co-op to work on Series S at all, what happens then? They have made it abundantly clear that it is integral to their game. I don't buy the lazy developers narrative. Larian have been working on BG3 for 7 years. I don't call that lazy, I call that dedication.

Xbox as a console maker should have made making games easier for developers, not harder! If Microsoft really wanted to get the Series S in as many user's hands as possible then they really needed to eat the cost and include more memory in the Series S and made up the cost through game sales instead of crippling an entire generation of games.

This now opens up a whole other can of worms. What if the Coalition can't get co-op to work in Gears 6? What if features were cut from Starfield due to not having enough memory in the Series S. What if Perfect Dark is in development hell because of the S? What if the reason Starfield and Redfall can't get 60fps working is because of the S? How is any of this acceptable? People blamed the the lack of co-op in Halo Infinite on the incompetence of 343 but it's clear something else is going on when Turn 10. arguably one of of Microsoft's best studios can't even do it.

 


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Did Larian recently announce that the Xbox version has been cancelled? Because AFAIK it's just delayed indefinitely until they can get the game working well on Series S.
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No, I've seen the director say that while the game was never officially announced for the Series X (which I'm not sure is correct), they fully intend on a release for Xbox. In their blog post this week and an interview they say all PC patches will be included on PS5 "and beyond".

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What makes you think Larian can get split-screen co-op working on Series S when Xbox OWN first party studios can't do it? Baldur's Gate will be coming to Playstation August 31st but not Xbox. That is a fact. And for once this has nothing to do with Sony moneyhatting the game.
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Microsoft's only option is to stop forcing parity between Series X and S. They did it with the Xbox 360 and Xbox One.
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Larian are very dead set on split-screen, and I would say 343 was not, considering the hard drop for Halo 5. I would also classify Larian as a competent studio, though they rely on iteration over time. I could not say the same for 343. Technical blunder after technical blunder, with their past mistakes like MCC only being solved by hiring new developers or outside companies and having them do it.

I can't really speak about Turn10, but I don't think they announced split-screen for this Forza. At they very least, they don't have an extremely embarrassing video of their studio head saying that all future titles will include the feature.
https://youtu.be/lNVDVHzhlU8?t=18m2s

I think the best option for BG3 probably would have been to release without split-screen at all, and then patch it in later, hopefully not botching it like 343. Next best is to drop split-screen on Xbox, which I'm not sure the company is willing to do. I would say limit the co-op, like a tether or something, but that is probably a big undertaking compared to cutting it normal optimization.

Parity between 360 and One is not a comparison that is useful, this was never promised or even implied, because they were truly two separate generations of hardware. There were only a handful of games that actually nailed both platforms, stuff like Rise of the Tomb Raider and Titanfall, while a lot of "cross gen" games were disastrous ports down to 360, like Dragon Age Inquisition or Shadow of War.

A more useful comparison would be One and One X. As far as I'm aware games on these platforms managed parity of features, aside from resolution, framerate, and general performance as expected.
 


Bryson said:
What if features were cut from Starfield due to not having enough memory in the Series S. What if Perfect Dark is in development hell because of the S? What if the reason Starfield and Redfall can't get 60fps working is because of the S? How is any of this acceptable?
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I'll give you possible cut features for Starfield, though knowing BGS I think they probably planned with the Series S limitations in mind, or were possibly willing to launch their game running badly on one or more platform targets. I doubt framerate can be blamed on Series S though, framerate and resolution are 100% allowed to defer from Series X. None of BGS or Arkane's modern games have launched with 60 FPS in console. They all got them later from stuff like FPS boost, or didn't have it until a port, like Skyrim. They're fine with and used to 30 FPS.


We also have heard the general reasons why Perfect Dark has been in development hell, and it was largely personnel and management garbage.
 
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