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JohnnyCage said:
The huge success of E33 and Oblivion at $50 make MS's choice to charge $80 for Outer Worlds 2 even more baffling. They are sending that game out to die.
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MS made the call on this so they're weaponizing Nintendo's greed to push Game Pass appeal. I can both fault them and not at the same time. Nintendo threw the first stone.
 
I'd say it's more MS pulling a "we have to price our games at $80 but look, you can get gamepass for a few months for the same price and get so much more" play. They're basically going to do what Netflix did with streaming- great value/cheap early on and then slowly get people used to it being shittier over time.
 
That is just a trope phrase meant to imply stupidity. I’m saying you’d have to only be looking at the past month or so to say Nintendo threw the first stone. Odd use of that phrase though, raising game prices is throwing stones? Maybe at consumers I guess. Microsoft’s been a dump truck.
 
I don't think it's just MS... I think we're at a point where there's no real "competition" in gaming like we saw in the past. Nintendo controls a segment of the market thanks to their franchises and the convenience of their hybird system. MS has a ton of studios that they're using to just expand the franchises via Gamepass and expansion into other platforms. Sony has the console market under control thanks to having such a variety of games from internal and external studios.

All 3 are gouging consumers in someway- Nintendo and MS with games, Sony with their subscription services; plus all three with overpriced hardware. Doesn't matter which one of them was "first" to jack up prices since we're losing on all fronts right now.
 
Noob question time, because Google is failing me.

I signed up for PS5 Plus Premium.

I was trying to get the free PS5 upgrade for a game, which is also on PS plus.

The upgrade option wasn't there, only the install from PS+ option. Is that normal for games like that since I have PS+ as well?
 
Monthly games generally don't work for free upgrades if that is what you are asking. Occasionally they'll get patched to allow it later like with the plus version of ff7 remake. But that's not common.

Now if you are talking about the rental games in their versions of gamepass I dunno.
 
Vinny said:
I'd say it's more MS pulling a "we have to price our games at $80 but look, you can get gamepass for a few months for the same price and get so much more" play. They're basically going to do what Netflix did with streaming- great value/cheap early on and then slowly get people used to it being shittier over time.
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We said the same thing.
 
Jodou said:
MS made the call on this so they're weaponizing Nintendo's greed to push Game Pass appeal. I can both fault them and not at the same time. Nintendo threw the first stone.
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Mario Kart is the biggest franchise in the industry aside from GTA, CoD, Minecraft and Fortnite. Microsoft thinking they can charge $80 for an AA game like Outer Worlds 2 is just stupidity by them and has nothing to do with what Nintendo does. Sony is still keeping Ghost of Yotei and Death Stranding 2 at $70. People need to stop making excuses for Microsoft. They are offering the worst value proposition in the industry right now unless you are already locked in their ecosystem.
 
JohnnyCage said:
Mario Kart is the biggest franchise in the industry aside from GTA, CoD, Minecraft and Fortnite. Microsoft thinking they can charge $80 for an AA game like Outer Worlds 2 is just stupidity by them and has nothing to do with what Nintendo does. Sony is still keeping Ghost of Yotei and Death Stranding 2 at $70. People need to stop making excuses for Microsoft. They are offering the worst value proposition in the industry right now unless you are already locked in their ecosystem.
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Oh so popularity makes it ok then. Glad we cleared up how sheep view things.
 
JohnnyCage said:
Mario Kart is the biggest franchise in the industry aside from GTA, CoD, Minecraft and Fortnite. Microsoft thinking they can charge $80 for an AA game like Outer Worlds 2 is just stupidity by them and has nothing to do with what Nintendo does. Sony is still keeping Ghost of Yotei and Death Stranding 2 at $70. People need to stop making excuses for Microsoft. They are offering the worst value proposition in the industry right now unless you are already locked in their ecosystem.
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In somewhat related news, it looks like Borderlands 4 will stay at $70 and NOT $80. I guess the backlash worked???? lol
 
I preordered BL3 super deluxe edition that came with the SB for PS4. It wasn’t worth it. I’ll hold off for a sale in the first year after I hear about the antagonist and story.
 
Jodou said:
Oh so popularity makes it ok then. Glad we cleared up how sheep view things.
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Life isn't always fair. That's just reality. Mario Kart sells itself. Outer Worlds 2 is a game most people can comfortably pass on unless it does something to win them over.

Using whataboutism is just a way to make excuses for Microsoft. They are already the richest (or second richest) company in the world. No one is forcing them to price hike all of their products. Their goal seems to be to kill their own hardware and software sales to drive everyone to game pass for their games. The hurdle for them is that Sony and Nintendo are not going to allow game pass on their platforms and they've already hit a brick wall for subscribers on Xbox and PC.
 
JohnnyCage said:
Life isn't always fair. That's just reality. Mario Kart sells itself. Outer Worlds 2 is a game most people can comfortably pass on unless it does something to win them over.

Using whataboutism is just a way to make excuses for Microsoft. They are already the richest (or second richest) company in the world. No one is forcing them to price hike all of their products. Their goal seems to be to kill their own hardware and software sales to drive everyone to game pass for their games. The hurdle for them is that Sony and Nintendo are not going to allow game pass on their platforms and they've already hit a brick wall for subscribers on Xbox and PC.
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I don't think anyone has made claims contrary. They're pivoting back to what they do best: software and subs. I don't care what they do with their game prices at this point since I'm sold on Game Pass, but I will boycott $80 games as purchases.
 
Moofboy said:
I preordered BL3 super deluxe edition that came with the SB for PS4. It wasn’t worth it. I’ll hold off for a sale in the first year after I hear about the antagonist and story.
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as a CAG member, i usually wait till the GOTY edition comes out with all the DLC and patches/updates and etc... AND more importantly, its below $40 to finally buy the game. In the meantime, I keep playing my long list of backlog games
 
Jodou said:
I don't think anyone has made claims contrary. They're pivoting back to what they do best: software and subs. I don't care what they do with their game prices at this point since I'm sold on Game Pass, but I will boycott $80 games as purchases.
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So you don't care that it hurts PS5 users so long as you get to play them for "free" on game pass. Thanks for clearing that up.
 
podunk320 said:
as a CAG member, i usually wait till the GOTY edition comes out with all the DLC and patches/updates and etc... AND more importantly, its below $40 to finally buy the game. In the meantime, I keep playing my long list of backlog games
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That’s my normal go-to strategy, but I was a bit too hyped for BL3 after dumping hundreds of hours into BL and BL2. Lesson learned.
 
JohnnyCage said:
So you don't care that it hurts PS5 users so long as you get to play them for "free" on game pass. Thanks for clearing that up.
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The only people it hurts are those willing to pay it. Nintendo fans voted with their wallets, this is the result. I could surely hope OW fans vote better, but not much faith there.
 
JohnnyCage said:
Mario Kart is the biggest franchise in the industry aside from GTA, CoD, Minecraft and Fortnite. Microsoft thinking they can charge $80 for an AA game like Outer Worlds 2 is just stupidity by them and has nothing to do with what Nintendo does. Sony is still keeping Ghost of Yotei and Death Stranding 2 at $70. People need to stop making excuses for Microsoft. They are offering the worst value proposition in the industry right now unless you are already locked in their ecosystem.
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Disagree, hard.
 
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shadowysea07 said:
Monthly games generally don't work for free upgrades if that is what you are asking. Occasionally they'll get patched to allow it later like with the plus version of ff7 remake. But that's not common.

Now if you are talking about the rental games in their versions of gamepass I dunno.
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Sorry, wasn't 100% clear, my bad. I have a PS4 disc game that is supposed to have a free PS5 upgrade, Immortals Fenyx Rising. There was no upgrade option on my PS5 for that game, like there has been for Witcher 3 or FF7R Remake PS4 disc versions.

I wasn't sure if the option wasn't showing because I also have PS+, since Immortals is offered as a game on PS+. That was my question, should I also show the PS5 upgrade separately, or does it not show because I have PS+ right now?
 
podunk320 said:
In somewhat related news, it looks like Borderlands 4 will stay at $70 and NOT $80. I guess the backlash worked???? lol
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I’d take that bet. I’m usually pessimistic about large corps, but I doubt it. It’s not going to have dedicated games (outside maybe some that utilize special features of the system), it would play ps4 games at least, and most likely ps5 as well. So it will have games. Maybe they try expensive proprietary memory cards again, but it wouldn’t be as big of a deal since it should also have a basic hard drive at least. It’s just going to copy the new format for handhelds now. Can look back on this later and see, but I think this is all they will do, which should be fine.

*No marketing or support, that is definitely still in the Sony Playbook, but as long as it’s at least just a portable ps4 or ps5 with its own hard drive as is standard for these things now, that keeps Sony from making most of the same mistakes.
 
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Vinny said:
This got me thinking... what did Sony handle worse, the Vita or the PSVR2?
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I'd say PSVR2. The Vita got first party support, and Sony even went after some third party exclusives and ports, and funded some regional exclusives. I feel Sony basically abandoned any real support for PSVR2 at launch.
 
Souffrir said:
If Sony ever puts out another handheld, I would put money on them learning nothing from the Vita and making literally all the same mistakes.
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If the Portal is any indication, then it appears they would want any handheld to play whatever the PS5 or potentially PS6 could play. I'm kinda thinking it's going to be an xbox series s/x situation, but in this situation you have a handheld with slightly lower specs and everything has to function on both the handheld and the main console.
 
Xenogears said:
I’d take that bet. I’m usually pessimistic about large corps, but I doubt it. It’s not going to have dedicated games (outside maybe some that utilize special features of the system), it would play ps4 games at least, and most likely ps5 as well. So it will have games. Maybe they try expensive proprietary memory cards again, but it wouldn’t be as big of a deal since it should also have a basic hard drive at least. It’s just going to copy the new format for handhelds now. Can look back on this later and see, but I think this is all they will do, which should be fine.

*No marketing or support, that is definitely still in the Sony Playbook, but as long as it’s at least just a portable ps4 or ps5 with its own hard drive as is standard for these things now, that keeps Sony from making most of the same mistakes.
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Plays last gen home console games natively, no marketing, a ton of power for a [current year] handheld.

So… the Sega Nomad? Yeah, that worked out great for Sega, I’m sure Sony will see the same success.

For the record, I think Sony’s biggest mistakes with the Vita (and the PSP, for that matter, they just got bailed out by Monster Hunter with the PSP) were: expensive proprietary memory; too much focus on powerful hardware instead of keeping the price point lower; mostly poor first party support; and too much of an attempt to emphasize smart-device-like functionality over gaming.

Honestly if somebody with a lot of money who had the marketing know how and could secure a diverse and creative library of games wanted to come in and out-Nintendo Nintendo with a low power, high battery life, cheap handheld, I think they’d make crazy money—maybe not Switch 1 money, but I’d bet it would easily crack the top five or so best selling handhelds. Nintendo’s kind of leaving themselves wide open for the old Game Boy niche to be swept out from under them with the direction the Switch family of consoles has been going. Of course the two candidates that could do that most easily, Sony and Microsoft, probably don’t even recognize a market for a device like that could even exist.
 
SackAttack said:
They'd have to include on-board storage for digital games. An optical drive for disc PS4 games would murder the battery life.
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They wouldn’t have to. They’d stick an asterisk on the box that says *Not compatible with PS4 disc games. Then they put in a laughably small amount of memory, possibly zero. Just look at what they didn’t put in the psp go, PS5 pro, and the portal. They didn’t even include a portable console with the portal
 
The PSP was a huge hit. Vita failed because it has no games. Every time I saw someone recommend it the only game they mentioned was Persona 4 Golden. There was seriously no other game worth buying it for.

PSP had GTA, God of War, Socom, Daxter, Gran Turismo, Tekken, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid and many other games worth buying it for.
 
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