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My bad, it’s really easy to conflate posts when you’re dealing with so many bad takes at once.
This is such a textbook example of the pot calling the kettle black, it’s not even funny. Based on the most objective measure we have, average user and critic review scores, you are expressing opinions that not many are going to agree with. Thats fine, but criticizing someone disagreeing with the notion that Muramasa is the best game of all time, by calling that disagreement a bad take, come on…I like the game too, but a 79 average user rating on metacritic with 111 reviews compared to Ocarina of Time having a 91 with 11,000. Not to mention it’s 99 critic review score. The vast majority are going to view this as a bad take, and might express that disagreement.

Skyward sword tried some interesting things, but is the worst mainline Zelda by far, in my, and the metacritic aggregate opinion. And I know some people like the Wii, just like some people like the Kardashians, but I think both made the world a worse place.
 
Yeah that was nearly two decades ago, the industry moved on from shoehorned motion controls for the most part and it was very flash in the pan, some good games came out of it, some bad, and a whole lot of shovelware but who cares the PS1/2, XBOX 360 had a ton of shovelware too along with a lot of the other best consoles.

Hell if Wii weren't a success Nintendo might not have survived at all, the N64/Gamecube flop double whammy was a bruiser.
 
If Skyward Sword wasn't a Zelda game it would have been dismissed as shovelware. We don't have to pretend that every game with Zelda in the title is a masterpiece. It's an absolute joke of a game compared to OoT, MM, TP, WW, BOTW and TOTK.
 
I'd say get a hobby, but this is your hobby. Jesus, dude. It's video games.
Yeezus dude, What part stuck in your crotch, the jab at the Kardashians or the Wii? Since it’s just video games, which would be dumb to get defensive about, I guess the Kardashians? Anyone that doesn’t think the Kardashians, and their ilk, have made the world a worse place, i‘d view as a fool or feeding from the same trough. And the Wii is basically the Kardashians of video game systems. So read into that whatever you want, but that’s where I was coming from. I know you can survive the joke. Star Trek warned us about them years ago, ignore its warning about their species at your own peril.
 
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Skyward Sword was better than Twilight Princess at least, sure the bird travel thing was kind of lame but it sure beat yet another big and boring empty world like OoT, Twilight Princess was just OoT's big field with an unnecessary maze on top.
 
Wii software sales show how casual its user base was. How does Mario Galaxy and Smash Bros only sell 12 million copies to 100 million users? Only 9 games on this console surpassed 10m sales and among them are Wii Sports, Wii Sports Resort, Wii Play, Wii Fit and Wii Fit Plus. I'd wager at least 75% of Wii owners have never owned another gaming system in their lives.
 
Oh no not the casuals they smell like deodorant 🤮 get out of my hobby grandma!

It was short term success that almost sank their hardware business long term. The 3DS was also struggling out of the gate which led to emergency price cuts. Going hybrid with the Switch was basically their hail mary. Had it not been the hit it was then Nintendo would probably be publishing games on PlayStation right now.
 
This is such a textbook example of the pot calling the kettle black, it’s not even funny. Based on the most objective measure we have, average user and critic review scores, you are expressing opinions that not many are going to agree with. Thats fine, but criticizing someone disagreeing with the notion that Muramasa is the best game of all time, by calling that disagreement a bad take, come on…I like the game too, but a 79 average user rating on metacritic with 111 reviews compared to Ocarina of Time having a 91 with 11,000. Not to mention it’s 99 critic review score.

There’s nothing objective about an argumentum ad populum. OOT isn’t special anymore. It was revelatory in 1998, but as I already explained, games that set the standards for a genre are pretty much never going to age especially gracefully, since games in the genre that come after are going to learn those lessons and build on them. OOT is not a bad game, but it’s just not on par with the 3D Zeldas that have come since without the aid of nostalgia goggles.
 
I don’t know how anyone was able to play OoT on an n64. I tried to, but the textures were so muddy that I really had a hard time navigating. But where I was totally able to play it, and really loved it at the time, was on the GameCube. There was a preorder disc that you could get with Wind Waker. Finally you could actually tell a tree from a rock from a wall
 
I don't think they really upgraded the graphics or improved anything for the Gamecube preorder disc version it was just a straight port as far as I remember, are you sure you didn't just play it on a different television that was better suited for it?

Man I miss when preordering games got you something worthwhile.... that, uh, one time!
 
Wii software sales show how casual its user base was. How does Mario Galaxy and Smash Bros only sell 12 million copies to 100 million users? Only 9 games on this console surpassed 10m sales and among them are Wii Sports, Wii Sports Resort, Wii Play, Wii Fit and Wii Fit Plus. I'd wager at least 75% of Wii owners have never owned another gaming system in their lives.
Million sellers tier are a niche number of titles. That generally come from established ips. Outside of pack ins most games will NEVER sell 50% of a consoles install base. as not everyone likes the same game. Hell I'd be surprised if there's games that sold even 10-20%.

But that's also not factoring in rentals, sharing, digital, buying used.
 
Despite your attempt to turn it around on me by making it seem like I'm the one being weird, such a statement about video games says more about you than anyone else.
I posted about a video game system, your the one who took it, and made it personal. Even if I touched a nerve about a video game system you like, there’s no need for that shit. But yeah, repeatedly going to ad hominem personal attacks, and nothing but that, to defend a video game system, does say a lot about the attacker. I feel the Wii was a bad turn for Nintendo, and the industry. Is that better, or still too “weird” to say on a video game forum? And I explained the joke portion enough, if you can’t now get its basis, then oh well, Star Trek is just too complicated I guess.
 
Million sellers tier are a niche number of titles. That generally come from established ips. Outside of pack ins most games will NEVER sell 50% of a consoles install base. as not everyone likes the same game. Hell I'd be surprised if there's games that sold even 10-20%.

But that's also not factoring in rentals, sharing, digital, buying used.

Mario 64 sold 12 million to 32 million users. Mario Galaxy sold 12 million to 100 million users. I think that attach rate paints the picture of how many non-gamers had a Wii.

Just look how well software is doing on the Switch. Franchises like Fire Emblem and Kirby are reaching heights that seemed impossible. That's what happens when actual gamers buy your console and want content to play. Most Wii owners just played Wii Sports for a day and then threw it in a box to collect dust.
 
I don't think they really upgraded the graphics or improved anything for the Gamecube preorder disc version it was just a straight port as far as I remember, are you sure you didn't just play it on a different television that was better suited for it?

Man I miss when preordering games got you something worthwhile.... that, uh, one time!
The graphics weren’t different, but the resolution was improved, 640x480p vs the original 320x240i. Do you count progressive scan when calculating resolution? It was 8x the resolution on GC if you do, or still 4x even if not. It was quite literally a game changer for me
 

Gotta love a longer Dunkey video. I'm not a huge racing/Mario Kart fan, barely touched MK8, but man, I would definitely buy that soundtrack whenever (if ever) it's released separately.

It also seems to do open world correctly; it's supposed to be a toy box. I get what it adds to something like Forza and Test Drive, but I'm a bigger fan of Burnout Paradise (I miss that series...). As an open world exploration and trick machine, something Dunkey is known to love, watching him attempt that one Beanstalk Track trick was fun. That's the sort of stupidity I get sucked into.

I'm too competitive to make something like MK fun to play online...

... this is how you post a video. With context for folks to determine if they want to watch it. Be the change you want...
 
Mario 64 sold 12 million to 32 million users. Mario Galaxy sold 12 million to 100 million users. I think that attach rate paints the picture of how many non-gamers had a Wii.

Just look how well software is doing on the Switch. Franchises like Fire Emblem and Kirby are reaching heights that seemed impossible. That's what happens when actual gamers buy your console and want content to play. Most Wii owners just played Wii Sports for a day and then threw it in a box to collect dust.
You're kind of contradicting yourself there. Fire Emblem Three Houses only sold between 4-5 million copies. Kirby and the Forgotten Land sold less than 8 million. Mario Odyssey sold less than 30 million, but against Switch hardware sales of about 152 million, that's in line with Mario Galaxy on the Wii. Everything else that isn't Pokémon, Mario Kart or Zelda BOTW/TOTK sold around or less than Fire Emblem. So by your metric, actual gamers aren't buying the Switch either if they didn't buy the Wii.
 
Skyward Sword was better than Twilight Princess at least, sure the bird travel thing was kind of lame but it sure beat yet another big and boring empty world like OoT, Twilight Princess was just OoT's big field with an unnecessary maze on top.
Finally someone with a brain that also thinks this. I have more Wii games than N64 games, than Gamecube games, than PS3 games. Only the xbox 360 beats it in terms of great games on a system. Wii truly was a fantastic system but people dismiss it because WAGGLE CONTROLS MAKE MY BONES HURT!!!!!! and all the shovelware it has because everyone was trying to capitalize on its success.
 
There’s nothing objective about an argumentum ad populum. OOT isn’t special anymore. It was revelatory in 1998, but as I already explained, games that set the standards for a genre are pretty much never going to age especially gracefully, since games in the genre that come after are going to learn those lessons and build on them. OOT is not a bad game, but it’s just not on par with the 3D Zeldas that have come since without the aid of nostalgia goggles.
Ok, just saying, based on the best type of “objective numbers“ available, it’s like 100 to 1 that are going to disagree with some of your takes. So not disparaging your personal preference in games, but talking about bad takes, probably not the route to go.
Finally someone with a brain that also thinks this. I have more Wii games than N64 games, than Gamecube games, than PS3 games. Only the xbox 360 beats it in terms of great games on a system. Wii truly was a fantastic system but people dismiss it because WAGGLE CONTROLS MAKE MY BONES HURT!!!!!! and all the shovelware it has because everyone was trying to capitalize on its success.
Someone with a brain? It’s fine to like the Wii for what it was, but why do Wii apologists have to be so nasty? And so quick to resort to personal attacks and strawman arguments. Makes bones hurt, whatever. My criticisms of the whole Wii era are not just the system, but the hemlock of greed, market and consumer manipulation and exploitation starting to spread unchecked, with thunderous applause. The basis of a lot of problems we have today, I feel have roots or got exacerbated in this era. Nintendo getting in on pumping stock numbers, stock market speculation, inventory speculation and scalpers, fomo, shovelware, NOAs blue ocean marketing strategy, blocking games like Xenoblade, the one large scale RPG it could have had, otherwise ready for release, for no reason other than to try and show, hey we don’t want dorky gamers, we want normies. And yes, waggle gimmicks did more harm than good for most games. I respect and actually like the attempt, but they made skyward sword worse than it already was. Wind Waker HD, a game that got shat on during its time as kiddy and dumb, has a 9.1 user score on metacritic. Its score has gone up with time. Skyward sword HD a 7.5, it’s already low score to start with, has gone down, even with waggle removed. Why do you think that is? If any remaster quality is better, it’s probably skyward sword, since it’s newer. But it’s source martial is being rated worse. Same with Twilight Princess HD, 8.5. And these are Wii U games, that probably would have been even better remasters on the switch.
 
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Noticed in the controller screen that my right switch 2 joycon is not showing as fully charged even though it’s been charging for days. Anyone else?

Controllers are fully updated.
 
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Mario 64 sold 12 million to 32 million users. Mario Galaxy sold 12 million to 100 million users. I think that attach rate paints the picture of how many non-gamers had a Wii.

Just look how well software is doing on the Switch. Franchises like Fire Emblem and Kirby are reaching heights that seemed impossible. That's what happens when actual gamers buy your console and want content to play. Most Wii owners just played Wii Sports for a day and then threw it in a box to collect dust.
Fire emblem they barely supported prior to awakening on the 3ds. where they went to the opposite of the spectrum. They not only fully supported it but they did lots of free cameo unit dlc, and the eshop credit if you bought it and smt4.

Most of the series remained unlocalized until 7 on the gba.

Let's also note that only 3 houses did well while engage (rightfully) didn't do so hot. God that game was so cringe.
 
i still don't understand the argument that the REAL gamers didn't buy a Wii just because some grandma bought one too. Are "real gamers" really that petty and superficial as a demographic?

How did it hurt Nintendo somehow that the Wii was successful?

Just because Nintendo made boneheaded decisions during that era and was lazy at putting out games toward the end of the cycle doesn't mean their slump during the 3DS and Wii U era had something to do with Wii's success with people who otherwise do not play video games. Nintendo makes boneheaded decisions time and time again and tends to get lazy about first party game output at the end of every system they make

The Wii just isn't that special. It's fine, it has a fine enough library of unique games for "real gamers" to be interested in owning the system, and it's fine that your grandma bought a Wii too. Keeping Nintendo afloat for another decade to be able to put out the Switch and get lucky with Animal Crossing and the Switch tax to keep them afloat for another decade is fine too.

Hopefully Nintendo's luck will last.
 
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Once again, the argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy, there is literally nothing objective about it.
Fair enough, and true, if I was saying your statement was false. I’ve said multiple times the opposite, it‘s valid as your own opinion. Whose take is bad or not though, you probably got at least 100 to 1 against you based on those numbers, so do not be surprised if you get some disagreement. I like Xenogears a lot, but I understand it’s just a niche game in a particular genre. I wouldn’t say it’s better than anything on multiple classic systems, that would be foolish.
 
Xenogears could have more widespread popularity if it could be rereleased or remastered, but Square is run by a bunch of knuckleheads who lost the freaking source code for the game, not to mention some likely licensing hiccups.
 
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