20 year old baby sitter accused of sleeping with 14 year old boy.

[quote name='thisboywillbreak']This story is actually very much like a situation I'm in right now. Er. That came out all wrong, I swear!

One of my younger cousin's friends (14) admitted that she's thinking about sleeping with some 20+ year old guy she met. From what I was told, they have already met twice, and the real kicker is that he has a wife and a family. She doesn't even know his last name. So fucked up![/QUOTE]

Just becuase no one else has... you should consider calling the cops or at least telling her parents. This has 'horrible outcome' written all over it.
 
[quote name='DuelLadyS']Just becuase no one else has... you should consider calling the cops or at least telling her parents. This has 'horrible outcome' written all over it.[/QUOTE]


Sounds more like it has "remains found" written all over it.
 
[quote name='shieryda']I blame the booze. Had it not been purchased and consumed by the minor, this may never have been investigated/discovered.[/QUOTE]
Here's the funny thing: they're both underage...
 
[quote name='Javery']I have a daughter and a son and this is 100% the way I feel even though I shouldn't.



:D:D:D[/QUOTE]


I think it is ok that a 14 boy and 14 girl are treated differently. I mean a 14 girl could get pregnant and thus needs to be more careful, a 14 year old boy could not get pregnant and be less careful. So it is just different because of biology and possible ending outcomes.

What bothers me is though the sentence for the adults should be the same. It seems women who do this to younger boys gets a lesser sentence but men who do this to younger women get the book thrown to them.
 
Well, I think the pregnancy angle is why the sentences are often lighter as well.

The older man can knock up the teenage girl and ruin her life. If the older woman gets pregnant, the harm is done to her on that front. Not like the 20 year old in this case could sue the 14 year old for child support!

And it's just the angle discussed in this thread as well--that teen boys are raging hormones and happy as hell to stick their dick in any decent looking chick (or guy for the gay teens). So it's harder for everyone--including judges--to see a predation angle. And I imagine a lot of the time the boy isn't wanting to press charges, and the victim's wishes tend to have a significant impact on sentencing. Where there are probably more cases of females getting their heart's broken and then turning in the guy etc.
 
[quote name='nixmahn']I think it is ok that a 14 boy and 14 girl are treated differently. I mean a 14 girl could get pregnant and thus needs to be more careful, a 14 year old boy could not get pregnant and be less careful. So it is just different because of biology and possible ending outcomes.

What bothers me is though the sentence for the adults should be the same. It seems women who do this to younger boys gets a lesser sentence but men who do this to younger women get the book thrown to them.[/QUOTE]
So let's say that a the 14 year old boy got the 20 year old babysitter pregnant. Then what? Are we going to absolve him of child support or force him to work? Should the 14 year old boy hold less responsibility than a pregnant 14 year old girl for a potential child? Since the boy is 14 and probably legally unable to work, should the mother be able to sue his parents for child support? Or maybe that was the plan all along?

My point is that double standards *cough*patriarchy*cough* like these can very serious consequences even if its a boy with raging hormones that'll hump anything in sight. And we're not even talking about how society is structured to view the sexuality of girls that most people just tend to ignore as if somehow, the only females that get horny are the so-called sluts.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Well, I think the pregnancy angle is why the sentences are often lighter as well.[/QUOTE]
You're absolutely right, and this should always be a factor even if I'm a proponent of the gender-blind predation angle.

The older man can knock up the teenage girl and ruin her life. If the older woman gets pregnant, the harm is done to her on that front. Not like the 20 year old in this case could sue the 14 year old for child support!
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Can the mother sue the parents as legal guardians then?
 
In response to your first post above--you posted again quoting me while I was typing this one....


Oh for sure.

I was just explaining some of the "logic" behind the double standard. Not saying it was justifiable!

Re: the child support issues...that's where it gets tricky legally.

You can't convict the 20 year old girl for seducing the 14 year old boy, and also award her child support from his parents. By convicting her of statutory rape or child molestation etc., you are legally saying the sex wasn't consenusal (because the 14 year old boy was under the age of consent) and thus he can't be held responsible for the child. That ruling essentially said he was raped.

So that's one of the stupid things about having arbitrary age of consent (or at least having the age of consent as high as 18 or 16 etc.). If there's no predation involved--which is usually the case when you're talking a fairly small age difference and the female being the older one--there should be no automatic statutory rape law, and the boy or his parents should be held accountable for any pregnancy etc. Just like the parents of a 14 year old girl have to deal with it when the situation is reversed (though there's more chance of child support from the father their since he'd be of working age).


To the second post:

I have no idea whether teen's parents can be sued for child support when the father is not of working age. I've not heard of that happening, but I don't follow statutory rape cases very much.
 
[quote name='dohdough']So let's say that a the 14 year old boy got the 20 year old babysitter pregnant. Then what? Are we going to absolve him of child support or force him to work? Should the 14 year old boy hold less responsibility than a pregnant 14 year old girl for a potential child? Since the boy is 14 and probably legally unable to work, should the mother be able to sue his parents for child support? Or maybe that was the plan all along?

My point is that double standards *cough*patriarchy*cough* like these can very serious consequences even if its a boy with raging hormones that'll hump anything in sight. And we're not even talking about how society is structured to view the sexuality of girls that most people just tend to ignore as if somehow, the only females that get horny are the so-called sluts.[/QUOTE]


I am saying that men and women are different. Women, as soon as they are able, can get pregnant and depending of on the situation can be congratulated or ruin the rest of her life, should be more careful of who they bang. A women is called a slut because, quite frankly, she is not careful of who she bangs.

An attractive girl of 20 years banging a 14 kid male is called a slut because she should be more careful of who she bangs. A 14 girl and a 20 male provide it was concentual, the girl should be even more careful of who she bangs. Basically no matter what age, girls should be more careful than guys of who they bang because of biology and if they are not, unless it is forced rape, they are called a slut, they just have more responsibility, simple as that. I find that fair.

Adults bangs kids should get the same sentence, male or female adults.
 
I don't think the pregnancy angle has much, if any relevance, to the "slut" label double standard.

That's just engrained sexism. Guys are possessive of girls and don't like the idea of a girl they've slept with having had a lot of sex partners etc. Despite the fact that they've slept around a lot themselves in many cases.

It helps explain why teen girl/older guy is treated more severly than teen guy/older girl both legally and in public perception. But it doesn't explain the slut double standard.
 
Well, I know if I was in the boys situation, I would be bouncing for joy to have the sexual experience. But I know it's still not "right" regardless of the double standard.

But I'm still perplexed by people making this girl out to be a supermodel. She's....average at best...
 
[quote name='4thHorseman']
But I'm still perplexed by people making this girl out to be a supermodel. She's....average at best...[/QUOTE]

I think it's just the situation. With teen boy older woman situations the woman isn't often very attractive at all.

So this girl is just hotter than usual for these types of cases. Also, she looks average at best in the mug shot in the video in the first post, but much hotter in the other picture someone found and posted back in post #53 if you missed that one. Here's the link.

http://themichaelshowpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Pirate.jpg
 
[quote name='nixmahn']I am saying that men and women are different. Women, as soon as they are able, can get pregnant and depending of on the situation can be congratulated or ruin the rest of her life, should be more careful of who they bang. A women is called a slut because, quite frankly, she is not careful of who she bangs.

An attractive girl of 20 years banging a 14 kid male is called a slut because she should be more careful of who she bangs. A 14 girl and a 20 male provide it was concentual, the girl should be even more careful of who she bangs. Basically no matter what age, girls should be more careful than guys of who they bang because of biology and if they are not, unless it is forced rape, they are called a slut, they just have more responsibility, simple as that. I find that fair.

Adults bangs kids should get the same sentence, male or female adults.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, not really sure what being called a slut has to do with pregnancy or responsibility. Your logic is silly, or you're an idiot.
 
[quote name='docvinh']Yeah, not really sure what being called a slut has to do with pregnancy or responsibility. Your logic is silly, or you're an idiot.[/QUOTE]

Dude, reread what I wrote and then reread what you wrote. If you still don't get reread everything until you get it.
 
Oh man, I don't know if you guys care but I'll post a really juicy story about what happened here in my town last year where a teacher was ratted out by the freshman she was drinking and sexing it up with. If you guys are interested let me know. xD just so you know, she doesn't live here, she moved cities asap.
 
For everyone wondering about underaged child support: We recently had an article about it in our newspaper.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/article1183449.ece

"Around the country there are plenty of cases of underage boys who got a woman pregnant and then tried to avoid paying child support. The 15-year-old in California who was seduced by the 34-year-old mom next door. The 13-year-old boy in Kansas who had sex with his 17-year-old baby$sitter. The 15-year-old boy in Florida who impregnated a 20-year-old.
Under a strict interpretation of the law, these boys, by virtue of their age, were raped. But family courts have seen these incidents for what they were: consensual sexual encounters. And as a result, they have ordered the boys to pay child support.
The baby is the innocent one, judges say. One court put it this way: If the sex was voluntary, then the parenthood is also."
 
[quote name='slickkill77']For everyone wondering about underaged child support: We recently had an article about it in our newspaper.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/article1183449.ece

"Around the country there are plenty of cases of underage boys who got a woman pregnant and then tried to avoid paying child support. The 15-year-old in California who was seduced by the 34-year-old mom next door. The 13-year-old boy in Kansas who had sex with his 17-year-old baby$sitter. The 15-year-old boy in Florida who impregnated a 20-year-old.
Under a strict interpretation of the law, these boys, by virtue of their age, were raped. But family courts have seen these incidents for what they were: consensual sexual encounters. And as a result, they have ordered the boys to pay child support.
The baby is the innocent one, judges say. One court put it this way: If the sex was voluntary, then the parenthood is also."[/QUOTE]


lol i could see some kids sitting around a chukee cheese complaining about how high their child support payments are and how by the time they get their paper route money/allowance its already spent lol.
 
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[quote name='slickkill77']For everyone wondering about underaged child support: We recently had an article about it in our newspaper.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/article1183449.ece

"Around the country there are plenty of cases of underage boys who got a woman pregnant and then tried to avoid paying child support. The 15-year-old in California who was seduced by the 34-year-old mom next door. The 13-year-old boy in Kansas who had sex with his 17-year-old baby$sitter. The 15-year-old boy in Florida who impregnated a 20-year-old.
Under a strict interpretation of the law, these boys, by virtue of their age, were raped. But family courts have seen these incidents for what they were: consensual sexual encounters. And as a result, they have ordered the boys to pay child support.
The baby is the innocent one, judges say. One court put it this way: If the sex was voluntary, then the parenthood is also."[/QUOTE]
LOLZ. Nice....
 
[quote name='nixmahn']Dude, reread what I wrote and then reread what you wrote. If you still don't get reread everything until you get it.[/QUOTE]

Reread it. You're still an idiot. Essentially, it's the girls fault/responsibility they're called a slut regardless in your eyes, unless they were raped. Gotcha.
 
[quote name='johnnyRingo']I hate these stories even when gender is reversed who gives a a shit.[/QUOTE]

i do. i think it is an awesme human interest story. sex sells. you can quote me on that. especially after looking at riot photos in londan and the railing stock market. i read shit like this and :D
 
idk whats up with the baby sitter need these days.

i remember in 1st or 2nd grade i went home from a friends house early and when my parrents returned home about 2 hours later they asked if okay being alone and said ya and from t hat day forth i never needed to go to my grandmas or a neighbor's house if my parents needed to go out for a bit. :)
 
[quote name='VipFREAK']http://www.care.com/[/QUOTE]

the kid in that pic has one fucked up smile. even if she is losing her baby teeth and whatnot, it looks like her head is crooked or mouth is bent in half. it just aint right.

now if it turns out she really was born physically deformed and has other physical and mental defects, i will feel pretty stupid and it will not look half as funny
 
[quote name='docvinh']Reread it. You're still an idiot. Essentially, it's the girls fault/responsibility they're called a slut regardless in your eyes, unless they were raped. Gotcha.[/QUOTE]

Girls being responsible for being sluts or not, wow, what a novel idea. I can already tell you have serious issues. I will be putting you on ignore for future references.
 
In California if it was the other way around with the ages that kid would have likely been placed on Sex Offender list and his life would have been fucked. The girl would have been a hero on Good Morning America with a book deal in the works.
 
[quote name='Jodou']I'm sensing a lot of sexual frustration in this thread LOL.[/QUOTE]


nah it just sucks that chicks are so slutty nowdays you can literally trip and fall into some pussy but back in the old days girls werent so emotionally damaged and easily used.
 
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