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[quote name='pimpinc333']The Eagles have been playing great the past 2 weeks. Needless to say that the Giants have dropped off within the past few games they played. They are going into this game off with 2 weeks off rest and no momentum what so ever. They are looking very shaky. The only way the Giants will beat the Eagles is if they rush for more then 200 yards. Eli will not beat the Eagles with his arm.[/quote]

The Eagles did not play great last week. If the Vikings had a semi-competent QB the score would have been much much closer and the Vikings might have even won. Tavaris Jackson was awful. They played great against the Cowboys (at home, moments after learning they were in with a win). I'm not saying the Eagles can't win - it should be a good game (and a division rival can always win on any day at any point in the season, IMO) but I don't know how you can say the Giants are looking shaky - after losing to the Eagles and Cowboys back to back (immediately following the Plax fiasco and without Jacobs!) they beat the Panthers when it mattered to secure home-field advantage. The loss to the Vikings was with their B-team. Jacobs and Ross didn't play and the starters only played a half and the Vikings still needed a last second 50-yard FG to beat them (and they were playing for their playoff lives at that point).
 
[quote name='javeryh']There's no way 3 road dogs are winning this weekend. I would bet the farm on it. I think people are getting sucked in by the Eagles who lost just 3 weeks ago 10-3 in a must-win game against a division rival and who have been inconsistent all year and also by the Ravens who rely 95% on the defense to win games - the Titans defense was EXCELLENT this year and they are facing a rookie QB who is playing a bit over his head at this point. The only reason I picked the Chargers (which I'm not completely sold on) is because historically one visiting team wins this week and Pittsburgh has no running game, Big Ben is completely banged up (one hit in the 1st Quarter and he could be done) and they played to an 18-10 game that was actually a lot closer. San Diego has a great QB, good WRs and Sproles is good enough to fill in for LDT (who is in rapid decline anyway). I think the Panthers are the safest bet - especially if Bolden is out but I won't be surprised by any outcome of any game.[/quote]

Not making any predictions here, but I noticed you failed to mention the Steelers D. They made Rivers look like a rookie last go around, and I guarantee you they'll hit Sproles harder than Indy ever could. Just sayin ;)

The main thing I'm worried about, and this is something the media hasn't been talking about, is the usually subpar special teams play of the Steelers. The only area Sproles will likely make an impact in is during punt returns (given that Ernster can even keep the ball inbounds past 30 yards).
 
[quote name='pimpinc333']The Eagles have been playing great the past 2 weeks. Needless to say that the Giants have dropped off within the past few games they played. They are going into this game off with 2 weeks off rest and no momentum what so ever. They are looking very shaky. The only way the Giants will beat the Eagles is if they rush for more then 200 yards. Eli will not beat the Eagles with his arm.[/quote]

I agree the Giants need a big rushing game to win but Eli can beat anyone with his arm. He is one of the best QBs in the league right now (he did make the Pro Bowl). There are even discussions on ESPN that he is on the right track to the Hall of Fame. The Giants had a league-low 12 turnovers this year - Eli doesn't make the mistakes and poor decisions he used to the last few years. He is accurate, he takes way fewer sacks and he has developed a nice deep throw as well. He also knows the playbook and can recognize defensive alignments with the best of them. He can still screw it up (he had several poor games this year) but he has proven time and time again that he is best under pressure which is one of the best attributes a QB can have this time of year.

[quote name='primetime']Not making any predictions here, but I noticed you failed to mention the Steelers D. They made Rivers look like a rookie last go around, and I guarantee you they'll hit Sproles harder than Indy ever could. Just sayin ;)

The main thing I'm worried about, and this is something the media hasn't been talking about, is the usually subpar special teams play of the Steelers. The only area Sproles will likely make an impact in is during punt returns (given that Ernster can even keep the ball inbounds past 30 yards).[/quote]

I totally agree with you there. Special teams play is going to be huge but if San Diego punts anywhere close to how they did last week the Steelers are going to be pinned on a lot of their drives and they just don't have a home run threat on offense. Honestly, the only reason I'm picking against the Steelers is because Big Ben is banged up and you have to pick one road team this week and I just like the other match ups better. I'm guessing this will be a 13-10 game but Rivers will get it done during crunch time. If the Pittsburgh D can either score or force a turnover in the red zone it will be the difference in the game. Either way, I'll be rooting for the Steelers for sure.
 
[quote name='javeryh']I agree the Giants need a big rushing game to win but Eli can beat anyone with his arm. He is one of the best QBs in the league right now (he did make the Pro Bowl). There are even discussions on ESPN that he is on the right track to the Hall of Fame. The Giants had a league-low 12 turnovers this year - Eli doesn't make the mistakes and poor decisions he used to the last few years. He is accurate, he takes way fewer sacks and he has developed a nice deep throw as well. He also knows the playbook and can recognize defensive alignments with the best of them. He can still screw it up (he had several poor games this year) but he has proven time and time again that he is best under pressure which is one of the best attributes a QB can have this time of year.
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Must be a really slow news day for ESPN if they are talking about Eli going to the HoF already. So honestly Eli has had 1 decent season which happens to be this season ( finally he has had one, weren't they going to chalk him up as a bust not too long ago? ). What a shame that all you need to get into the HoF is a Super Bowl ring and 1 decent season. :cry:

Also he will not beat the Eagles with his arm. Thats what I meant. He doesn't have the great WR's like some other teams. ( If they had Plax it might be different ) Arguably, the Eagles have one of the best Secondaries in the game ATM. Brian Dawkins is playing at a level that no WR can compete with right now.

Also to your "Eli is one of the best QB's in the league right now and made the Pro Bowl" I mean seriously there are a bunch of turds in NFC as of right now for QB's. They basically just picked the best of all the shitty QB's. No one really stood out this year as a great QB. ( Warner looked really good until the Cards fell apart, and I don't consider Bree's a good QB either ) IMO there were a lot of snubs in the Pro Bowl selection but that a whole other story.
 
[quote name='js1']Baltimore, I picked because I think they are the better team.(how can you NOT like the Raven's D)
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Are you effing out of your mind? You are buying into the hype and not looking at the actually numbers if you think the Ravens defense is light years ahead of the Titans.

Titans Defense is on par with the Ravens D. Granted they dont have an Ed Reed to return INT but that doesnt take away from the fact that they get INT and fumbles like teams where handing them out like hot cakes.

Titans D is top 3 in the league AHEAD of the Ravens in terms of points allowed per game. They also have beaten both the Ravens and the Steelers on route to having the best record in the NFL.

The Titans Defense is stellar in all formats and lets not forget that they are going against a rookie QB who only threw for 153 yard and 2 INT in their first meeting.

Both the Ravens and the Titans are top 10 in all stat columns expect when it comes to forcing fumbles in which the Titans are 2nd with 23 on the year and the Ravens are 13th.


I know I am a Titans fan so I am slightly biased but if anyone thinks that the Ravens are "simply a better team," or that their defense is somehow way better you are a complete and utter fool.

This game is completely up to the Ravens rookie QB.

Pfft...the Ravens are a better team my ass.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Are you effing out of your mind? You are buying into the hype and not looking at the actually numbers if you think the Ravens defense is light years ahead of the Titans.

Titans Defense is on par with the Ravens D. Granted they dont have an Ed Reed to return INT but that doesnt take away from the fact that they get INT and fumbles like teams where handing them out like hot cakes.

Titans D is top 3 in the league AHEAD of the Ravens in terms of points allowed per game. They also have beaten both the Ravens and the Steelers on route to having the best record in the NFL.

The Titans Defense is stellar in all formats and lets not forget that they are going against a rookie QB who only threw for 153 yard and 2 INT in their first meeting.

Both the Ravens and the Titans are top 10 in all stat columns expect when it comes to forcing fumbles in which the Titans are 2nd with 23 on the year and the Ravens are 13th.


I know I am a Titans fan so I am slightly biased but if anyone thinks that the Ravens are "simply a better team," or that their defense is somehow way better you are a complete and utter fool.

This game is completely up to the Ravens rookie QB.

Pfft...the Ravens are a better team my ass.[/QUOTE]


The Ravens do have a better Defense. Ed Reed will eat the Titans offense alive. As well as Ray Lewis and Suggs will do the same thing.

It's going to be close but I do think the Titans will win.
 
The Raven have arguable a better defense. That is my point.

You think that the Titans defense wont eat Rookie QB alive? Also dont forget that the Titans have a stellar running game so they dont need to pass that much something the Ravens lack.

Ray Lewis? There was only 1 defensive player in the running for MVP for this season and that is Albert Hansworth of the Titans. They also have KVDB in what is one of the best front 4 in the league.


But once again....last time they played Ed Reed, Suggs, and Lewis didnt do enough to win them the game.

The point is this......the Ravens have many weapon that we all know and love, but the Titans have just as many that apparently only Titans fan know about and give credit to.
 
[quote name='pimpinc333']Must be a really slow news day for ESPN if they are talking about Eli going to the HoF already. So honestly Eli has had 1 decent season which happens to be this season ( finally he has had one, weren't they going to chalk him up as a bust not too long ago? ). What a shame that all you need to get into the HoF is a Super Bowl ring and 1 decent season. :cry:

Also he will not beat the Eagles with his arm. Thats what I meant. He doesn't have the great WR's like some other teams. ( If they had Plax it might be different ) Arguably, the Eagles have one of the best Secondaries in the game ATM. Brian Dawkins is playing at a level that no WR can compete with right now.

Also to your "Eli is one of the best QB's in the league right now and made the Pro Bowl" I mean seriously there are a bunch of turds in NFC as of right now for QB's. They basically just picked the best of all the shitty QB's. No one really stood out this year as a great QB. ( Warner looked really good until the Cards fell apart, and I don't consider Bree's a good QB either ) IMO there were a lot of snubs in the Pro Bowl selection but that a whole other story.[/quote]

I agree with you in that he's not going to throw for 300 yards and 3TDs - that's not what the Giants are all about. If the run game gets going though and the O-line is on their game he can be deadly with a play action pass or 10 yard hooks and outs all the way down the field. Anyone remember the 50 yard bomb Eli threw that hit Hixon in the chest (which he dropped)? That could have changed the outcome of their second meeting - the worst game the Giants have played all year.

[quote name='Soodmeg']Are you effing out of your mind? You are buying into the hype and not looking at the actually numbers if you think the Ravens defense is light years ahead of the Titans.

Titans Defense is on par with the Ravens D. Granted they dont have an Ed Reed to return INT but that doesnt take away from the fact that they get INT and fumbles like teams where handing them out like hot cakes.

Titans D is top 3 in the league AHEAD of the Ravens in terms of points allowed per game. They also have beaten both the Ravens and the Steelers on route to having the best record in the NFL.

The Titans Defense is stellar in all formats and lets not forget that they are going against a rookie QB who only threw for 153 yard and 2 INT in their first meeting.

Both the Ravens and the Titans are top 10 in all stat columns expect when it comes to forcing fumbles in which the Titans are 2nd with 23 on the year and the Ravens are 13th.


I know I am a Titans fan so I am slightly biased but if anyone thinks that the Ravens are "simply a better team," or that their defense is somehow way better you are a complete and utter fool.

This game is completely up to the Ravens rookie QB.

Pfft...the Ravens are a better team my ass.[/quote]

This is exactly how I feel about the Eagles (although I'm a biased Giants fan). Apparently, you are only as good as your last game but everyone is forgetting that both the Ravens and Eagles beat teams that were total frauds. They matched up well against already inferior teams and all of a sudden they are the hot teams to beat.

I totally agree with you about the Ravens - they are going to lose this weekend.
 
if Kevin Mawae doesn't play that running game drops significantly... Ed Reed is only as good as the 7-8 guys in front of him.. The Ravens got pressure on Pennington and he had to force throws which Ed Reed gobbled up.. Pennington doesn't have a strong arm like Collins..

the main thing to take away from last week was that Baltimore and Philly luckily played teams with QBs that aren't that good... This of course hyped them up for this week. Also Peyton Manning didn't deserve the MVP.. he wasn't the best player in the league..
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']The Raven have arguable a better defense. That is my point.

You think that the Titans defense wont eat Rookie QB alive? Also dont forget that the Titans have a stellar running game so they dont need to pass that much something the Ravens lack.

Ray Lewis? There was only 1 defensive player in the running for MVP for this season and that is Albert Hansworth of the Titans. They also have KVDB in what is one of the best front 4 in the league.


But once again....last time they played Ed Reed, Suggs, and Lewis didnt do enough to win them the game.

The point is this......the Ravens have many weapon that we all know and love, but the Titans have just as many that apparently only Titans fan know about and give credit to.[/QUOTE]

Ummm the Ravens actually have a great running game. So great they rank 4th in the NFL averaging 148.5 yards a game.

I'll also say it again. The Ravens D is better then the Titans.
 
I just dont understand how you can go 13-3 with top 10 defense and have beaten almost everyone in the play offs already and somehow magically become an underdog or a long shot to win.

I am not saying the Titans will hands down win the game. I am saying the game is much more even than people are giving credit for. But those are the breaks when the media latches on to one team like they always do.

Doesnt really matter what you do during the regular season because ESPN will starting riding Eli by the way I am one of the few that DIDNT forget he was a bust until he rode his defense to a superbowl behind HOF Michael Strahan. Or any other "hot" team or player of their choosing. Stats mean nothing, performance means nothing....just hype.

Also, I fully agree that Manning didnt come close to deserving the MVP for this season. Another example of hype. The Colts are suppose to win games and I hate how they disregard loosing as a significant factor. Yeah on the back of Manning they won a way into the play offs but lets not forget that on the back of Manning they lost the first couple games too.

Yeah they would not have won those games without Manning but you completely undermine all the other players in the league who were constantly winning from the get go.
 
[quote name='pimpinc333']Ummm the Ravens actually have a great running game. So great they rank 4th in the NFL averaging 148.5 yards a game.[/quote]

Yeah, I just checked that and its a hell of a surprise to me. Every time I looked at them they were fumbling like crazy so I didnt think it was so good. My bad about that.


But that does lead to another strength when it comes to the Titans, 2nd in the NFL in forced fumbles against the 3rd highest fumbling team.

I like those odds
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']I just dont understand how you can go 13-3 with top 10 defense and have beaten almost everyone in the play offs already and somehow magically become an underdog or a long shot to win.

I am not saying the Titans will hands down win the game. I am saying the game is much more even than people are giving credit for. But those are the breaks when the media latches on to one team like they always do.

Doesnt really matter what you do during the regular season because ESPN will starting riding Eli by the way I am one of the few that DIDNT forget he was a bust until he rode his defense to a superbowl behind HOF Michael Strahan. Or any other "hot" team or player of their choosing. Stats mean nothing, performance means nothing....just hype.

Also, I fully agree that Manning didnt come close to deserving the MVP for this season. Another example of hype. The Colts are suppose to win games and I hate how they disregard loosing as a significant factor. Yeah on the back of Manning they won a way into the play offs but lets not forget that on the back of Manning they lost the first couple games too.

Yeah they would not have won those games without Manning but you completely undermine all the other players in the league who were constantly winning from the get go.[/quote]

I agree.. go Titans... dont under estimate them. the only thing that will screw us is if Collins gets hurt and boy wonder Vince Young is put in... but then again... who knows maybe InVINCEable will surprise us even then
 
Bill Romanowski wants to be the Denver head coach. Besides how stupid he is to think he could just jump from retired player to head coach, I don't think I could trust him with control of a team on any level.
 
I'll never forgot when I saw a TV segment on his home life and they showed like a fishing tackle box full of a bunch of med and supplements that he would take daily. Shit was insane, his kid evan had one.
 
[quote name='javeryh']
I totally agree with you there. Special teams play is going to be huge but if San Diego punts anywhere close to how they did last week the Steelers are going to be pinned on a lot of their drives and they just don't have a home run threat on offense. Honestly, the only reason I'm picking against the Steelers is because Big Ben is banged up and you have to pick one road team this week and I just like the other match ups better. I'm guessing this will be a 13-10 game but Rivers will get it done during crunch time. If the Pittsburgh D can either score or force a turnover in the red zone it will be the difference in the game. Either way, I'll be rooting for the Steelers for sure.[/quote]

It'll be nice and cold Sunday, but I'm still a little worried about Scifres (sp?).
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Are you effing out of your mind? You are buying into the hype and not looking at the actually numbers if you think the Ravens defense is light years ahead of the Titans.

Titans Defense is on par with the Ravens D. Granted they dont have an Ed Reed to return INT but that doesnt take away from the fact that they get INT and fumbles like teams where handing them out like hot cakes.

Titans D is top 3 in the league AHEAD of the Ravens in terms of points allowed per game. They also have beaten both the Ravens and the Steelers on route to having the best record in the NFL.

The Titans Defense is stellar in all formats and lets not forget that they are going against a rookie QB who only threw for 153 yard and 2 INT in their first meeting.

Both the Ravens and the Titans are top 10 in all stat columns expect when it comes to forcing fumbles in which the Titans are 2nd with 23 on the year and the Ravens are 13th.


I know I am a Titans fan so I am slightly biased but if anyone thinks that the Ravens are "simply a better team," or that their defense is somehow way better you are a complete and utter fool.

This game is completely up to the Ravens rookie QB.

Pfft...the Ravens are a better team my ass.[/QUOTE]

Well then I'm an "complete and utter fool" then:dunce: I think that there is a reason why the Titans have not gotten much respect this season. I do love Jeff Fisher as a coach, Kerry Collins does nothing for me as a qb, but the running game and D is good, but "playoff" good we will see.

I did not say the Ravens D was "way" better, but that's why they play the games. I think Flacco is up to it, but I did see that Vanderbosch, and haynesworth are playing so it is possible that the Titans could harass Flacco enough to win. But for a one game victory, I would take the Ravens D + their experiance, over the Titans D. I think this game is going to come down to who ever has less turnovers. I think it will be a 14-10 game. Either way.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Bill Romanowski wants to be the Denver head coach. Besides how stupid he is to think he could just jump from retired player to head coach, I don't think I could trust him with control of a team on any level.[/quote]

That is hands down the funniest thing I've heard all year.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']The Raven have arguable a better defense. That is my point.

You think that the Titans defense wont eat Rookie QB alive? Also dont forget that the Titans have a stellar running game so they dont need to pass that much something the Ravens lack.

Ray Lewis? There was only 1 defensive player in the running for MVP for this season and that is Albert Hansworth of the Titans. They also have KVDB in what is one of the best front 4 in the league.


But once again....last time they played Ed Reed, Suggs, and Lewis didnt do enough to win them the game.

The point is this......the Ravens have many weapon that we all know and love, but the Titans have just as many that apparently only Titans fan know about and give credit to.[/QUOTE]

I don't even know if Flacco is considered a "rookie" anymore. Just because he has played a full season+one road playoff win.
 
Well I dont know, if Greg Oden can still be a rookie even though he was clearly with the club for an entire year and 11 months before the next season training camp.

Who knows anymore.
 
I'm not really sure what point I was trying to make, I guess that I was trying to say that since flacco has some experience under his belt he should not be able to be too rattled by another playoff game. Especially a team that he has already played against this season.
 
Js1 I know the point you are trying to make but I dont think you will get anyone to buy into it. A rookie is a rookie is a rookie man.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Js1 I know the point you are trying to make but I dont think you will get anyone to buy into it. A rookie is a rookie is a rookie man.[/QUOTE]

I know... I know. I made a bad choice of words and I dug myself deeper by trying explain myself.
 
[quote name='js1']I know... I know. I made a bad choice of words and I dug myself deeper by trying explain myself.[/quote]

No worries. We've all been there before.
 
i'm not.. Baltimore and SD were in perfect weather conditions for punting.. we won't see the enormous punts this weekend in much colder weather..
 
[quote name='DJSteel']i'm not.. Baltimore and SD were in perfect weather conditions for punting.. we won't see the enormous punts this weekend in much colder weather..[/quote]

Yeah, it should be windy too. That should help.
 
[quote name='DT778']Can't have the Steelers getting six before the Niners so I'm hoping San Diego finds a way to win.[/quote]

San Diego should be the least of your worries if you're hoping for that ;)
 
[quote name='DT778']Can't have the Steelers getting six before the Niners so I'm hoping San Diego finds a way to win.[/quote]

The Niners?
 
Lets go titans.

Hell yeah, Johnson hit scott with the okey doke for a 15 yard game. Tie them shoes up tighter son!
 
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TOUCHDOWN TITANS!

Where is your fucking D at now Ravens?

Lets go, baby.

Lets see what this rookie can do against our defense.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']TOUCHDOWN TITANS!

Where is your fucking D at now Ravens?

Lets go, baby.

Lets see what this rookie can do against our defense.[/QUOTE]

:lol:

We just saw what the rookie can do.
 
Shaddup! But that was one hell of a throw....Hope will the broken coverage though.

Well our rookie just picked up a 32 yard run.


I notice that we are just going with a 4 man front for pressure.....once we starting sending MLB and DB in we will start getting those sacks.



UGH!

RUN THE GOD DAMN BALL! They cleary cant stop the running game keep with it until they do. 3 yards and 3 downs to do it, no excuse for not picking that up.
 
Our defense is playing better than the Ravens is. Other than that crazy INT that Collins threw although I see exactly why he threw it. They only had 2 DB in back there and if that was a little lower it would have been 6 easy with just 1 person to beat.

We just need to get in the endzone and put some points on the board.

Joey F is playing decent but lets not get ahead of ourselves. He only has like 68 yards so far and 3 or 4 receptions. He and is far from killing us in anyway. We have to stop letting Mason get behind us though.
 
Playing about the same? Titans went on a 70 yard drive that started from their own 2 yard line.

Raven have gone 3 and out on every possession that wasnt that one touchdown. Havent run the ball at all, and again other than the TD passes havent done a thing in the passing game.

Look at the TOP. Collins has had all damn day to toss the ball he barely been pressured.

Anyway we have been living in the fucking redzone and havent a thing to show for it. 2 TO is just plain lame. But we are beating ourselves right now with all the mistakes we are having. We are moving the ball easy on this defense.
 
Because getting to the opponent's red zone means nothing if you can't score? Both defenses have given up a TD and stopped everything else, so they're pretty much even.
 
Yeah if you take it at just plain face value but no one does that.

Defensive get tired over time and if we are gashing them now we will be gashing them much more later in the game.

Titans cant seem to punch it in but as the game goes by it will becomes easier. Meanwhile our defense hasnt had a scare the entire first half other than the TD strike. Its not even at all.

20 min of possession? We will start to punch it in, in the seconded half trust me.

The ravens defense hasnt done anything yet but we will see if that changes in the 2nd. Hell they had to all out blitz just to get pressure on Collins.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Playing about the same? Titans went on a 70 yard drive that started from their own 2 yard line.

Raven have gone 3 and out on every possession that wasnt that one touchdown. Havent run the ball at all, and again other than the TD passes havent done a thing in the passing game.

Look at the TOP. Collins has had all damn day to toss the ball he barely been pressured.

Anyway we have been living in the fucking redzone and havent a thing to show for it. 2 TO is just plain lame. But we are beating ourselves right now with all the mistakes we are having. We are moving the ball easy on this defense.[/QUOTE]

Who cares if they went on a 70 yard drive. They didn't get any points out of it. They ended it with a Turnover.

Anywho. I really like Chris Johnson. He is a pretty exciting RB. As well as Collins. I always liked him. He is a great QB.

Also, if Suggs doesn't play then the Ravens could be in trouble.

Either way I could careless who wins or loses. I picked the Titans to go to the Super Bowl but with Soodmeg running his mouth about the Ravens not anywhere near as good as the Titans, I kinda hope the Ravens pull out a Win here. I hope it continues to be a great game regardless.
 
I never said the Ravens where no where near as good as the Titans.

What the hell are you talking about? I said their defense isnt playing better that the Titans are now. I have never once said the Titans were better than the Ravens you are just making up stuff now.


I tell you this though....we need to keep White on the sidelines he is not stepping up at all in this game.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Are you effing out of your mind? You are buying into the hype and not looking at the actually numbers if you think the Ravens defense is light years ahead of the Titans.

Titans Defense is on par with the Ravens D. Granted they dont have an Ed Reed to return INT but that doesnt take away from the fact that they get INT and fumbles like teams where handing them out like hot cakes.

Titans D is top 3 in the league AHEAD of the Ravens in terms of points allowed per game. They also have beaten both the Ravens and the Steelers on route to having the best record in the NFL.

The Titans Defense is stellar in all formats and lets not forget that they are going against a rookie QB who only threw for 153 yard and 2 INT in their first meeting.

Both the Ravens and the Titans are top 10 in all stat columns expect when it comes to forcing fumbles in which the Titans are 2nd with 23 on the year and the Ravens are 13th.


I know I am a Titans fan so I am slightly biased but if anyone thinks that the Ravens are "simply a better team," or that their defense is somehow way better you are a complete and utter fool.

This game is completely up to the Ravens rookie QB.

Pfft...the Ravens are a better team my ass.[/QUOTE]

All of this Soodmeg. You went on a crazed rant because js1 picked the Ravens to win the game. And you are right, you did say all of this as being a biased Titans fan. I really hope the Titans lose now.
 
Again, I never said that the Titans were way better than the Ravens you are completely and utterly misunderstanding what my point was.

My point was that the Titans defense is on par with the Ravens Defense. Thats it. People where acting like the Ravens defense was the only game in town and I was simply informing you that the Titans defense is also very good.

So to clear up the confusion....I think the Titans are about the same as the Ravens slightly better in some areas slightly worse in others.
 
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