2008 Republican Convention Thread

If you support Sarah Palin, how do you feel about her deliberately lying to you about being opposed to the "bridge to nowhere"?

Don't you feel like she's insulting your intelligence by assuming you aren't bright or interested enough to look up these things?
 
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It sure looked like she opposed it. ;)
 
I wonder how Republicans at the Convention or watching on tv think about it being so white, do they even notice? Also Joe Gibbs speech came off as a religous nut.
 
Mccain set to announce change is coming. God I hope this news is true and he just calls it quits .
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They generalized the stance, like everyone does.

Okay, NBC really needs to stop showing that in case someone calls them out on it.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']They generalized the stance, like everyone does.[/QUOTE]

Because everyone is on both sides of the fence like McCain?

I don't get what you're saying.
 
Its simple. Palin was for the bridge to nowhere, before she was against it.


What did that protester's shirt say? Now I know why there are so many USA chants... They are to drown out dissent in the audience. They can keep Ron Paul from the floor, but they can't stop some nitwit?
 
I'm sure we'll hear about it afterwards, along with what Code Pink (I think that's what they're called) did.
 
Anybody else watching John McCain's acceptance speech? I must really question his patriotism - I see no flag pin anywhere on him. :lol:
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Pro life v. Pro Choice isn't as simple as it sounds.

EDIT: Sigh...why does security have to suck?[/QUOTE]

I understand that; but how can they generalize a stance that covers all the bases?

I missed the protestor; can someone give me the rundown?
 
He didn't mention his vote on that bill. Also, I'll give you that I don't see a pin on him.

There were 3 protestors overall. 1 in a black shirt with a banner, 2 in pink shirts. Can't tell you much beyond that I'm afraid. Watch afterwards, it'll be covered more than likely.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Watch afterwards, it'll be covered more than likely.[/QUOTE]

Replete with the conservatives deriding the "liberal media" for focusing on a security breach at the convention for the party that considers themselves the national security party.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Replete with the conservatives deriding the "liberal media" for focusing on a security breach at the convention for the party that considers themselves the national security party.[/quote]

They usually cover everything noteworthy. If there was a protester caught on camera during the Obama speech, you would've heard about it later.
 
[quote name='BlueSwim']Translation: War with Iran confirmed[/QUOTE]

dont fool yourself. war with iran will come no matter who is in office.
 
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']dont fool yourself. war with iran will come no matter who is in office.[/quote]


:cry::cry::cry:
 
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']dont fool yourself. war with iran will come no matter who is in office.[/QUOTE]

Yeeeeeeeeeah.

Bit of trivia for you guys:
McCain was a POW.
 
I'm kinda shocked he went into a lot of detail about his time as a POW which was powerful I think. I don't get the whole 'I'm gonna tattletale on earmarkers' part. Seems a bit juvenile.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']I'm kinda shocked he went into a lot of detail about his time as a POW which was powerful I think. I don't get the whole 'I'm gonna tattletale on earmarkers' part. Seems a bit juvenile.[/quote]

That was the best and most powerful part of an otherwise terrible and rambling speech, which makes sense given it's the aspect of his character that most intrigues and inspires people to root for him.

But it doesn't tell me why he's qualified to be president.

I especially liked the call to community service when Palin belittled Obama (three times!) less than 24 hours ago for doing just that.
 
I don't think it was a good speech, but I think he tried (just me thinking here) to give a speech based on the idea that he's already a maverick, and what he's saying is different from traditional Republicans, which is why he didn't elaborate.

But like what's being said on TV is he's not comfortable giving speeches like this and it showed.
 
I think it showed that, when it comes to "zingers" and attack politics, nobody can beat the Republicans.

As for policies and offerings, because they're offering the same thing Bush did/does/would do (particularly in the realm of health care), their speechwriters settle for vague allusions to "low taxes" and sating our addiction to finite and depleting sources of energy.
 
It all sounded (both Presidential candidate speeches) like a bunch of big promises that won't solve a damn thing to me.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']It all sounded (both Presidential candidate speeches) like a bunch of big promises that won't solve a damn thing to me.[/QUOTE]

What I saw in both conventions was a repudiation of the past 8 years. That makes sense for the Democrats but for Conservatives it just more evidence of how insane the GOP has become.
 
vague as expected, though McCain explaining his POW experience is really well done and touching. Makes him authentic unlike most other politicians.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']just curious how his POW experience is any different from any other POWs' and how that somehow makes him qualified to lead.[/QUOTE]
He was seriously injured, turned down early release, and was treated more cruelly than most because of his VIP status (son of a high ranking Admiral). He acted about as heroically as anyone probably could, though I consider Stockdale's ordeal more harrowing.

He's a genuine hero. Whether thats relevant to being President or not is debatable, but its least of all relevant to Republicans who ridiculed and attacked the honorable military service of McCain himself in the 2000 primaries, Kerry in 2004, James Stockdale in 92, Max Cleland in 02... Certainly doesn't matter to them.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']He was seriously injured, turned down early release, and was treated more cruelly than most because of his VIP status (son of a high ranking Admiral). He acted about as heroically as anyone probably could, though I consider Stockdale's ordeal more harrowing.[/quote]


from what i have read they offered to either release or treat better many POWs who would publicly denounce America. Kind of curious where you get more cruelly?
 
[quote name='Msut77']What I saw in both conventions was a repudiation of the past 8 years. That makes sense for the Democrats but for Conservatives it just more evidence of how insane the GOP has become.[/quote]

You're tying conservative to republican like it's the same thing, which isn't the case.

The best line McCain had about the Republicans, and I think A LOT of conservatives will agree with is the line about how they were originally elected in 1994 to shrink Government and stop corruption but they became corrupted themselves due to the glimmer of Washington's power. It changes you. Once you leave, you wonder what the hell you were thinking while you were there.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']from what i have read they offered to either release or treat better many POWs who would publicly denounce America. Kind of curious where you get more cruelly?[/QUOTE]
His father was in command of all US forces in Vietnam. They considered it a priority to get something out of him for propaganda purposes, and when he turned down early release he was tortured severely.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Man. One of the best Daily Shows I've seen in ages.[/quote]

Yup...Love that he called the GOP out on their ridiculous belittling of community service as somehow laughable and less worthy of respect than serving as a pampered politician in a bumblefuck town ... especially when all of the dittoheads were hoisting "SERVICE" signs the night before.

Giuliani needs to dig a hole in the foundation of Ground Zero, crawl in, and die.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']And yet it has gotten almost no press coverage so far. Maybe because it wasn't on TV. Oh well.[/quote]


Uh, what? I saw it on TV. :whistle2:s
 
I watched about 5 minutes of his speech. I have no idea what he was saying because I was too distracted at the really shitty presentation of the green screen behind him. On the close up camera, it was green with weird blobs moving around. When the camera switched to a wide shot, it was some pretty picture. The camera kept switching around and the green screen changed scenes, or lost scenes. It was amazingly annoying. I don't know if it was just NBC or the convention itself, but that's the only channel I had.

Oh and thought number 2: He really shouldn't try to wave his arms around. It looks terrible. I've never seen McCain so animated, which seemed very out of character for him.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']You're tying conservative to republican like it's the same thing, which isn't the case.[/QUOTE]


The Republicans AND Conservatives are doing that themselves, not to mention the numerous speeches throwing "liberal" as a dirty word and associating it with the Democrats. You want to blame someone for this, blame it on the Republican tactics that is cementing these labels.

Read the speeches from both conventions, watch the talking points in interviews, etc. You'll see it's the Republicans who will consistently thump their chest about being conservative. On the other hand, Democrats aren't doing that with the word liberal since it's somehow become a dirty word.

Personally, I think it's ridiculous that a person is fully "conservative" or fully "liberal" since it SHOULD vary in different degrees, by issue, by individual person. Unfortunately, it's easier to be on one side or the other in this country, as if it's some kind of football game - it's ridiculous.

I consider myself a Democrat only because I'm a social liberal (bordering on libertarian for certain issues) but conservative when it comes to governmental issues like size, military, etc. Based on existing labels though, I am considered a pot smoking baby aborting gay hippie, despite probably living an actual life more conservative (the actual definition) than actual conservatives (the label).
 
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