2010-2011 NBA Season Thread

[quote name='advanced']LeBron jukes Cleveland, heads for NY would be a good title too.

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LeBron went to his basketball camp today wearing a Yankees hat. For a guy who loves Cleveland so much, he sure does love making the fans piss in their pants in fear of him bolting.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']
WFan 660 is reporting that the Bulls and Wade had a 3rd meeting this past weekend.[/QUOTE]

He only met with them twice. He is now in Miami talking with Micky Arison (Heat's Owner). I predict a re-sign a day or two.

That Jay-Z/David Letterman clip was funny. It's almost as funny as Knicks fans still thinking they have a shot at him. :lol:

The Knicks possibility are going to be a worst team when this free agency ends by switching David Lee for Amare.

As for Dirk re-signing, I knew he would. I think it was a good move for him. Cuban has always looked to get the Mavs better. He treats the players well. I think the Mavs currently have a decent team.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']If I put Joe Johnson in the title, I would have to put Elton Brand, Andre Iguodola, Rashard Lewis, Turk and Eddy Curry as the other misfits who steal money from their teams. I am still trying to figure out how Otis Smith made Lewis the 2nd highest paid player in basketball. Guy made over 20 million last year to score 14 ppg. That is highway robbery. At least Joe Johnson can put up 22 ppg plus.[/QUOTE]

Lewis was putting up 22 ppg when he signed to Orlando from Seattle. In addition, he is a mismatch for most players. Too tall for most SF to guard him, too quick for any other 6'10 player to guard him. And yes, I also agree his contract was too big for him. It doesn't take away from the fact that he is a great player.
 
Yup, Knicks sure are getting worse! Just wondering, who are the Heat going to surround Wade with? Even if the heat go out and give three 15 million dollar deals, they still have Beasley and Chalmers. Thats 51 out of 56 million tied up on 5 players. 5 million for 7 extra spots is really cutting it thin. Which is why I think Wade who did have a 3rd meeting with the Bulls ends up in Chicago.

I do not care what kind of Stats Rashard Lewis put up on a shitty Sonics team. Nobody outside of Otis Smith thought he was worth 18 million plus.


Thanks for the laugh. Amare is a huge downgrade from Lee. HAHAHA.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']
Thanks for the laugh. Amare is a huge downgrade from Lee. HAHAHA.[/QUOTE]

Just wait until you see him next season without Nash and Dragic dishing him the ball. Trust me he will be a huge bust.
 
[quote name='lordopus99']Just wait until you see him next season without Nash and Dragic dishing him the ball. Trust me he will be a huge bust.[/QUOTE]


Really? The same Amare who averaged 20 plus points plus per game before Nash came to Phoenix. The same Amare who is rejoining Coach Pringles. The same Coach Pringles whose system last year so David Lee average close to 21 ppg.

This is the same Amare who is being brought on to also make the team more presentable to the rest of the league. Knicks are already looking like a promising gf to James, Wade, whomever. 2 months ago they were the fat girl with acne, braces, stringy hair and walmart clothing. Now that fat girl has lost some weight, got some pro active, had the braces taken off, did something with her hair and is spending money on clothing. Now the Knicks just have to start going to the gym everyday, tanning salon, beauty salon, etc.

David Lee was never ever ever ever going to make the Knicks more attractive to any free agent. Lee wasn't going to get the Melo's, Tony Parker's, King James of the world even thinking about NY. Amare brings an air of legitimacy. And if Amare had gone to Miami, you would be loving it. Who the hell are you kidding?


Serious question though. Who are the heat going to surround Wade/Bosh with? Even if the Heat get Wade, Bosh and Boozer. 51 million on 5 players. 5 million for the other 7. That is going to be one ugly 8 man rotation outside of the main 3.

Which is why I see Wade going to Chicago with Boozer. Wade, Boozer, Noah, Deng and Rose is a legit contender starting 5 and much more attractive than anything Miami can do.
 
The first real domino in the NBA Free Agency has just dropped. A chain reaction will follow.

It is being reported all over the place that Amar's Stoudemire has agreed to a deal with the Knicks. There will be a Press Conference at 6 30 p.m. Eastern. There is a photo of MSG with the Sign having a picture of Amar'e and welcoming Amar'e to the Knicks.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']Really? The same Amare who averaged 20 plus points plus per game before Nash came to Phoenix. The same Amare who is rejoining Coach Pringles. The same Coach Pringles whose system last year so David Lee average close to 21 ppg.
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The same Amare that still had a quality PG in Starbury (in his prime) for that time period. He still was surrounded by great shooters (Joe Johnson, Marion, Barbosa). David Lee did his numbers with scrubs. That is something Amare hasn't done.

David Lee was never ever ever ever going to make the Knicks more attractive to any free agent. Lee wasn't going to get the Melo's, Tony Parker's, King James of the world even thinking about NY. Amare brings an air of legitimacy. And if Amare had gone to Miami, you would be loving it. Who the hell are you kidding?
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Why would it matter... you said that everyone wants to play for New York since it is biggest city in the world :roll:

Amare does nothing for your chances. Denver has already gone on record stating they will not trade Melo so we will see if he decides to leave come his free agency time. As for Parker, I doubt he ever leaves SA while TIMMY still plays. Lebron. I have stated before. I feel he already made up his mind before free agency even started. I think this is all for show. You really think he was ever interested in LA Clippers... come on man. The same can be said for NY. If he wants to win a championship, his best chance is with Chicago. If he doesn't want that, then he will re-sign to be with family, friends, and the community he helped build. I personally think he stays with Cleveland. Just my thought.

I could care less if Amare had went to Miami; I am an Orlando Magic fan. I stated way prior that I felt the Heat were never interested in Amare.

Serious question though. Who are the heat going to surround Wade/Bosh with? Even if the Heat get Wade, Bosh and Boozer. 51 million on 5 players. 5 million for the other 7. That is going to be one ugly 8 man rotation outside of the main 3.
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If the Heat grab Wade and Bosh, they could use the remaining money to get quality role players i.e not max players. From seeing who they have brought in (Mike Miller, Brendan Haywood, etc), I think they are going more the route I am mentioning.

Which is why I see Wade going to Chicago with Boozer. Wade, Boozer, Noah, Deng and Rose is a legit contender starting 5 and much more attractive than anything Miami can do.
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I don't see Chicago doing anything better than what they did last year by adding Wade and Boozer. Wade is essentially the same player that Rose is. They are both 6'3 combo guards. Boozer and Noah are essentially the same player too. They are great defenders with a fairly good post game that both play PF.

Remember at one time your own Knicks had an overload at one position i.e. 2005-06 with Jalen Rose, Jamal Crawford, Starbury, Stevie Franchise, Nate Robinson, and QRich and you saw what happened (23-59 record). If I recalled correctly, they played a 3 guard lineup and got burned every night from the opposite teams SF.

The first real domino in the NBA Free Agency has just dropped. A chain reaction will follow.
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The dimes will truly fall once Lebron tells the media of his decision. Until then, I don't see any true "chain reaction".
 
[quote name='Tony208']yeah $20-30 million don't mean a lot to them
kind of like how a few bucks doesn't make or break a deal for us CAG's[/QUOTE]

Never said it didn't mean a lot...but according to them, a title is all that matters. I'm just saying most of today's pro athletes are hypocrites. They say its about the ring, then go out and get a max deal, crippling most NBA franchises.
 
Miami is going to have 5 million left over if they get 3 big players and still need to fill out the roster of 7 more players. Mike Millers of the world are not coming for 700'000.

You are really going to mention the Knicks from 2006 and compare that to Wade and Rose? SERIOUSLY? Come on.


Nate Robinson is an idiot who can score some points in spurts. Starbury is a malcontent who gets along with nobody. Steve Francis was the same way. Only thing Richardson could do was shoot 3's and that was lacking at times. Francis, Starbury and Jalen Rose were has beens by 2006 and a mere shadow of their former selves. Starbury and Francis also had horrendous reputations as well. You are going to compare that to Wade who has won a NBA Title, Top 10 player and Derrick Rose who is going into his 3rd season, Roty, etc. Get lost.


Oooooo. The Knicks are far from done working on their roster. More money to sign another Max Deal and Curry's expiring 11.5 in 2011. Far from done.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']
You are really going to mention the Knicks from 2006 and compare that to Wade and Rose? SERIOUSLY? Come on.

Nate Robinson is an idiot who can score some points in spurts. Starbury is a malcontent who gets along with nobody. Steve Francis was the same way. Only thing Richardson could do was shoot 3's and that was lacking at times. Francis, Starbury and Jalen Rose were has beens by 2006 and a mere shadow of their former selves. Starbury and Francis also had horrendous reputations as well. You are going to compare that to Wade who has won a NBA Title, Top 10 player and Derrick Rose who is going into his 3rd season, Roty, etc. Get lost.
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This was not supposed to be a direct comparison. It was a mention that you can have lots of talent and amount to nothing if you don't fill your needs. The Knicks 05-06 team had tons of talent at guards but lack in their Bigs (defensively and rebounding).

Nate Robinson - benched and trashed by franchise; no wonder he was so excited to get out of there
Starbury - 20pts, 9ass (season prior to Knicks) 2-time All Star; benched and trashed by franchise; finally got released like requested
Franchise - 21pts, 7ass, 5boards (season prior to Knicks) 3-time All Star, ROTY
Jalen Rose - 19.9pts (season prior to Knicks)
These are far from has been numbers. The Knicks mistreated most of these players which cause a decrease in their numbers.

Oooooo. The Knicks are far from done working on their roster. More money to sign another Max Deal and Curry's expiring 11.5 in 2011. Far from done.
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Yes they are far from done but at the same time... I doubt you are going to get guys at the level you are anticipating.
 
been gone most of the day and come home to read that lebron and bosh to CHI town is looking likely, by sam amco? anyone care to elbarote on this for me
 
[quote name='wwe101']been gone most of the day and come home to read that lebron and bosh to CHI town is looking likely, by sam amco? anyone care to elbarote on this for me[/QUOTE]

Where did you read that at?
 
[quote name='lordopus99']This was not supposed to be a direct comparison. It was a mention that you can have lots of talent and amount to nothing if you don't fill your needs. The Knicks 05-06 team had tons of talent at guards but lack in their Bigs (defensively and rebounding).

Nate Robinson - benched and trashed by franchise; no wonder he was so excited to get out of there
Starbury - 20pts, 9ass (season prior to Knicks) 2-time All Star; benched and trashed by franchise; finally got released like requested
Franchise - 21pts, 7ass, 5boards (season prior to Knicks) 3-time All Star, ROTY
Jalen Rose - 19.9pts (season prior to Knicks)
These are far from has been numbers. The Knicks mistreated most of these players which cause a decrease in their numbers.


Yes they are far from done but at the same time... I doubt you are going to get guys at the level you are anticipating.[/QUOTE]



Now you are just making up stats. Jalen Rose put up 18.5 ppg the season before. He put up 12 ppg in the half season before he joined the Knicks and 12 ppg with the Knicks. Jalen Rose played 30 more games in the NBA after that and was done.

Steve Francis averaged 16 ppg in 40ish games in 05-06 before being traded to the Knicks. Steve Francis played 40 games the next year in 07 averaging 11 ppg. He played 10 games in 2008 before retiring at the age of 30.

Stephon Marburry was a cry baby prima donna who got traded 4 times before he hit the age of 27. This is the same guy who cried himself off a team with KG. This is the same guy who cried himself off the Nets because they weren't the Knicks. The same guy who cried himself off a team with Joe Johnson and Amar'e. Starburry is the same bitch who sat and sulked because the Knicks grew tired of his act. Starburry is the same bitch who retired at the age of 31.


You are really going to bring up Starburry and Francis? Those two were elite pg's in the mid to late 90's and turned into malcontents. Francis cried himself off of the Grizzlies because he didn't want to play in Vancouver. did you even bother to watch the 1999 draft? Dude was legit pissed and about to break down crying. Francis cried himself off of the Rockets with Yao Ming. Starburry and Francis are two of the biggest losers to ever play in the NBA. I wonder why they both retired at the age of 30 and are pretty much unwelcomed in the NBA today. Both of them are black balled.



Yup it is all the Knicks fault. I forgot that Stephon and Steve got trashed by 4 organizations each. It's all the Knicks fault and has nothing to do with the two of them. Pretty funny how your main argument is about 3 players who were all retired pretty young.
All 3 played a grand total of 50 games or so combined after leaving the Knicks. And it had nothing to do with age for Francis and Starburry 30 and 31 and retired. All 3 were has beens.
 
[quote name='Pure Apathy']Where did you read that at?[/QUOTE]


Probably some realgm bs rumor. LeBron and his crew haven't announced anything and have kept everything close to their chest.


Only legit article recently is from ESPN. They interviewed Brian Cashman GM of the Yankees and he believes in his hear that LeBron will be a Knick.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']Probably some realgm bs rumor. LeBron and his crew haven't announced anything and have kept everything close to their chest.


Only legit article recently is from ESPN. They interviewed Brian Cashman GM of the Yankees and he believes in his hear that LeBron will be a Knick.[/QUOTE]

That's what I was thinking. I haven't read anything about it and I doubt anyone will know anything until after that basketball camp is over.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Didnt Joe already sign thus making Amare the 2nd player to drop?[/QUOTE]


Yeah but Joe reupped with the Hawks. Amar'e going to the Knicks is a domino falling because it transitions the power just a little bit.
 
Updated James news. Nothing major and this is taken from Brian Windhorst? Cavs insider twitter. I am just paraphrasing.

LeBron and World Wide Wes are rumored to have had a falling out. WWW is rumored to have been pushing James to go to Chicago.

James is rumored to be interested in Noah and Rose. The main problem is that Rose isn't interested in playing with James.


I take the Rose news as him being the Alpha Dogg of Chicago and wanting to be the star. James coming over just eats into it and his game.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']Updated James news. Nothing major and this is taken from Brian Windhorst? Cavs insider twitter. I am just paraphrasing.

LeBron and World Wide Wes are rumored to have had a falling out. WWW is rumored to have been pushing James to go to Chicago.

James is rumored to be interested in Noah and Rose. The main problem is that Rose isn't interested in playing with James.


I take the Rose news as him being the Alpha Dogg of Chicago and wanting to be the star. James coming over just eats into it and his game.[/QUOTE]

In regards to that rumor, this was posted on ESPN earlier.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/17648/lebron-james-monday-bullets

Marc Stein makes a great point that Joakim Noah is a key selling point for the Bulls as they recruit James. Noah has been an active part of recruiting for the Bulls, having spent time with Bosh and Carlos Boozer, for instance. Sources say Noah was willing to play a similar role with James -- but the plan was scuttled when word came that LeBron did not want players as part of teams' delegations to the pitch meetings in Cleveland. Noah and Derrick Rose had been planning to join the Bulls' delegation to make clear their commitment to being part of a winner, but instead stayed home.
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Well I just read this now too, so it looks like there could be some truth behind the rumor you posted.

@PDcavsinsider Based on several people who have talked to LeBron in last 72 hours, he is giving impression he's undecided after last week's meetings. He really likes Rose & Noah. But there's lack if shooters on roster. Also it doesn't sound like he's exactly being welcomed by Rose.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']
Yup it is all the Knicks fault. I forgot that Stephon and Steve got trashed by 4 organizations each. It's all the Knicks fault and has nothing to do with the two of them. Pretty funny how your main argument is about 3 players who were all retired pretty young.
All 3 played a grand total of 50 games or so combined after leaving the Knicks. And it had nothing to do with age for Francis and Starburry 30 and 31 and retired. All 3 were has beens.[/QUOTE]

Starbury and Francis both choose to retire after being disregarded from teams. New York took all these players from good players and crapped on them.

Starbury in Boston was stuck to 3rd man on the guard rotation (remember he was a starter for the majority of his career). His legacy was tarnished after the debacle New York put him through.

Francis retired due to injuries.

Rose's midway stats don't count. He knew he was on the way out when the season started. Obviously at that point he didn't care.

As for Nate Robinson, New York never gave him the chance. As backup for Rondo, he played extremely well. It's not like New York hasn't disregarded players before i.e. Trevor Ariza, Channing Frye from the same 05-06 team. Both have played well since getting out of there.

Lastly, the organization and fans as a whole are the reason New York is what it is. Who really wants to play for them. They boo all their draft picks and treat their players like crap.
 
Yup, it's the Knicks fault that Francis wore out his welcome in Vancouver, Houston and Orlando.

It's the Knicks fault that Starbury wore out his welcome in Minnesota, Phoenix, New Jersey and the Nets.

The two were malcontents long before they got to the Knicks. I guess you forgot about Steve Francis on draft night and Steve wanting off the Yao Ming Rockets. I guess you forgot about Starbury crying himself off of the Twolves and playing with KG for the rest of his life. You act like those two were choir boys.

Trevor Ariza was a 19 year old 2nd round draft pick out of High School by the Knicks. He averaged 6 points in 18 minutes per game while playing in 80 games. Do not act like the Knicks didn't give him a chance. Isiah Thomas is an idiot who traded him off for Francis.

You are going to sit here and cry about Channing Frye? The same Frye who made the All NBA Rookie 1st team with the Knicks? The same Frye who was given decent playing time and Averaged 11 ppg in his first 2 seasons in the league with the Knicks? The same Frye who was traded by idiot Thomas for Randolph? Oooooo and I hate to break it to you but Frye put up better #'s as a rookie coming off the bench than he did last year with the Suns as a Starter.

Knicks 24 minutes per game. 12.3 ppg, 5.8 rpg, .477 fg shooting.
Suns 27 minutes per game 11.2 ppg, 5.3 rpg, .451 fg shooting.

The only thing that has improved in the last 5 years is his 3 point shooting. This is also the same Suns team that rode Frye on the bench in 2009. He averaged 11 minutes per game.


Nate Robinson? Guy was given a ton of chances by the Knicks. He is a ball hog and selfish. He has a ton of talent and zero basketball IQ. Nate Averaged 13 ppg with the Knicks last year. He averaged 6 ppg with the Celtics. His per 36 minutes played were 20 ppg for the Knicks and 14 for the Celtics. He also shot the worst of his career with Boston. But you are so right, the Knicks never ever gave him a shot. That is why his undersized ass was the #1 guy of the Bench who was given 24 minutes a game for his career. That is why in 2008-2009 his last full year with the Knicks, Nate was given 30 minutes a night and averaged 17 points per game.

I love how you make an excuse for Rose now. He knew he was on the way out so he didn't care. You just made an excuse for a guy who gave up on his team, himself and the fans. Yup, it's the KNICKS FAULT! That's why Rose lasted a grand total of 30 games after leaving. He was only 33.

Anymore stupid theories you want to throw out there?


Funny how David Lee, Toney Douglas, Gallinari among others have had zero problems playing in NY. Only you can defend some of the biggest assholes to play in the NBA. And Stephon and Steve were assholes long before they got to the Knicks. I forgot, it's the Knicks fault that those two were uncoachable and spent a decade playing before making it to NY. I hate to break it to you, but if they still had talent and weren't head cases, they would still be in the league playing. There is too much money to be made and a lack of talent around the league. Stephon Marbury is playing pro ball in China because he cannot find a job in the NBA. Oooo it's the Knicks fault for that one. My bad!
 
Free Agent News. Orlando Magic sign Chris Duhon to a 4 year 15 million dollar deal.

Have fun with that one Magic. I am sure Lord is going to blame the Knicks for him as well. Even though Duhon has had a rumored alcohol problem since his playing days in Chicago. It's the Knicks fault though.
 
ESPN's Chris Broussard reports LeBron is trying to get Bosh to Cleveland:

chris broussard twitter

"Raptors have told Cavs they would do a sign-and-trade with them for Bosh. Cavs and LeBron working to convince Bosh to join them in Cleveland 2 minutes ago via web


is my bosh to cleveland idea still so crazy wilpac?
 
Chris Brousard is reporting that the Cavs and Raptors could be working on a deal for Chris Bosh.


That's if Bosh wants go to Cleveland. Is Cleveland going to take bake Calderon and Turk? Cleveland just gets Bosh it is going to improve their #2 but kill the rest of the roster.


And the key to the point is that the Raptors are willing to the trade if it Benefits them as well. So it's contingent on Bosh wanting Cleveland and Raptors being benefited.

I bet that would mean the Cavs taking on Hedo's remaining 4 years 40 million and Calderons 3 years 30 million in the trade.
 
Wildcpac I wish you were a shittery person so I could just ignore you but you are actually a decent guy a good portion of the time when you are not being so dick is ass hurt about anything said about the Knicks.

This is what happens when you love a team more than the game they are part off. You end up trying to debate Starbury and Steve Francis like anyone gives a flying fuck.

Use your fandom in a more productive ways my man because you come off looking like a complete idiot when you fly off the handle trying to defend Knicks against something like Starbury. No real fan of the NBA would even take the time to look up stats for Stave and Star because there are so many much more important things going on. It makes it impossible to discuss anything with you, your making the Knicks and their fans look foolish.

Congrats on getting Amare though...although in truth the only thing you did was replace Lee.
 
That reminds me, so have the Nets lost all ground here? I havent heard their names in anything in a while. I cant wait to see what the teams that come away with nothing do.
 
I took 2 seconds to look up stats. How do I make myself look foolish? Francis and Starbury were assholes long before they got to the Knicks. No real fan of the NBA would believe that Starbury was Mr Perfect. There are a ton of reasons why Francis and Starbury were out of the league at the age of 30.

Lord wants to post his stupid bullshit, I'll defend.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']That reminds me, so have the Nets lost all ground here? I havent heard their names in anything in a while. I cant wait to see what the teams that come away with nothing do.[/QUOTE]


Nets are rumored to go after Tyrus Thomas. I am sure Lee will be another option.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']I took 2 seconds to look up stats. How do I make myself look foolish? Francis and Starbury were assholes long before they got to the Knicks. No real fan of the NBA would believe that Starbury was Mr Perfect. There are a ton of reasons why Francis and Starbury were out of the league at the age of 30.

Lord wants to post his stupid bullshit, I'll defend.[/QUOTE]

Your missing the point. Every real NBA fan knows Starbury and Steve where idiots so there is no reason to even join a debate that says otherwise, anyone involved makes themselves seem like a complete idiot.

As you can see no one else here is even responding to most of the things lord is saying...because most of the stuff he is saying isnt even worth responding too.

All I am saying is stop debating worthless things that lord puts up.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']Free Agent News. Orlando Magic sign Chris Duhon to a 4 year 15 million dollar deal.

Have fun with that one Magic. I am sure Lord is going to blame the Knicks for him as well. Even though Duhon has had a rumored alcohol problem since his playing days in Chicago. It's the Knicks fault though.[/QUOTE]

No personally I have no beef with Duhon. He has played consistently throughout his career (i.e. a pass first PG). He has always been better as a backup and that is what he will be. He is definitely an upgrade to Jason Williams.

[quote name='soodmeg']Your missing the point. Every real NBA fan knows Starbury and Steve where idiots so there is no reason to even join a debate that says otherwise, anyone involved makes themselves seem like a complete idiot.

As you can see no one else here is even responding to most of the things lord is saying...because most of the stuff he is saying isnt even worth responding too.

All I am saying is stop debating worthless things that lord puts up. [/QUOTE]

I never stated that they weren't idiots/troublemakers. We had Steve Francis for a time and he wanted off our team when Mobley was traded off. It still doesn't take away from the fact that they were great players. The original point was that you can have all the talent at one position and get nothing done (I threw out one team in mind... the Knicks unfortunetly have been the only team in recent history to overload at one position). I only threw out stats because all these players stats dropped off when they hit the Knicks. I am done discussing the 05-06 Knicks.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']Free Agent News. Orlando Magic sign Chris Duhon to a 4 year 15 million dollar deal.

Have fun with that one Magic. I am sure Lord is going to blame the Knicks for him as well. Even though Duhon has had a rumored alcohol problem since his playing days in Chicago. It's the Knicks fault though.[/QUOTE]

Actually, we will. That's a solid pickup for a backup PG. He is a pass first PG which is what Orlando needs. He is 6th on the assist/ratio list. I'll take him. He was poor on the Knicks for one reason, D'Antoni playing style. He is not a shooter, but a defensive minded PG.
 
Alan Hahn via twitter.


"With rumors alive as we wait, I'll say it again: we in the media are being played. Some more than others. Pawns in a detailed strategy. 20 minutes ago via web"
 
[quote name='wildcpac']Alan Hahn via twitter.


"With rumors alive as we wait, I'll say it again: we in the media are being played. Some more than others. Pawns in a detailed strategy. 20 minutes ago via web"[/QUOTE]

I am glad someone finally realized that. The analysts just need to sit down until either the player or their agent steps up and says something or until a team officially makes a trade.
 
[quote name='lordopus99']No personally I have no beef with Duhon. He has played consistently throughout his career (i.e. a pass first PG). He has always been better as a backup and that is what he will be. He is definitely an upgrade to Jason Williams.
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Agreed. Solid back up PG. Like that we got a solid defender as well, can sub in for defense if Nelson is getting killed late in the game etc.
 
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more..._raptors_5KJC5iyj8G656moECl5N1H#ixzz0svSMaE9w

Report: Bosh won’t agree to Cavaliers sign-and-trade


LeBron James may return to the Cavaliers, but Chris Bosh doesn’t want to go with him.

The Raptors and Cavaliers have worked out a deal that would send Bosh to Cleveland, but the power forward is not interested in playing there, according to an ESPN.com report. The Cavaliers appear the favorite to bring back their favorite son, but James has been unable to convince Bosh to join him.

The report states, “Both James and Bosh are aware that such a trade is possible, and James has tried to recruit Bosh to the Cavaliers several times in the past few weeks, according to sources.

"But right now, Bosh remains cold to the idea of playing in Cleveland.”

If James cannot convince Bosh, it’s uncertain how this would affect a potential return to the Cavaliers. The Knicks already have a big man in place with Amar’e Stoudemire, so that may help their cause with James.

Stoudemire said he would do his best to try to recruit James to New York.

Bosh is determined to work out a sign-and-trade with the Raptors, so he can earn the maximum amount of money. The Nets are still in play for Bosh, along with the Heat, Bulls and Rockets.









Source: Bosh Unenthusiastic About Cleveland

A person with knowledge of the negotiations told Ken Berger of CBS Sports that Chris Bosh is interested in teaming up with LeBron James, but he is more likely to seek a sign-and-trade that sends him to the Nets, Bulls or Heat.

Bosh "remains decidedly unenthusiastic about joining James in Cleveland," writes Berger.

"If LeBron went to New Jersey, he'd consider that," the source said. "It's too late for New York. He wants to play with LeBron if LeBron leaves, but not necessarily in Cleveland."

A source says that the Bulls have not spoken to the Raptors about a sign-and-trade for Bosh.

The Heat is continuing to try to deal Michael Beasley in order to maximize their salary-cap room. Dwyane Wade canceled a public appearance he was scheduled to make Tuesday morning in South Florida.

Via CBS Sports



Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wi...unenthusiastic_about_cleveland/#ixzz0svXkL6ug
 
Rockets have alot more attractive pieces to offer than any other team and Bosh is from Texas.


What is going on with Ray Allen and the Celtics?
 
Holding pattern. Ray won't get any offers until the big names have signed. The Celtics can't make any trades until the big names have signed, so they won't know how much they can offer him until then.

Everything is pretty much being held hostage by the LeBron/Wade/Bosh situation. But he'll stay in Boston unless somebody offers him a huge contract.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']Rockets have alot more attractive pieces to offer than any other team and Bosh is from Texas.[/quote]And even after trading assets, the Rockets would still have a pretty good team for Bosh to join. I feel like at this point the only thing that would keep Bosh from coming to Houston is if James stays in Cleveland and Bosh decides he's ok with a sign and trade to join him there. But that doesn't seem very likely. Of course, something else crazy could happen.


And wildcpac, despite being from Houston, I'm a quasi-Knicks fan. I grew to really respect the Knicks in the 90s, and I have a few friends from NYC. That said, if we don't trade the NY draft picks the Rockets have I hope the Knicks stay in the lottery. ;)
 
anyone remember a few days ago when i was talking about a bosh sign and trade to cleveland and everyone was like lol.:)



im on my hands and knees right now praying bosh changes his mind and accepts.
 
I thought this whole FA thing was going to be more exciting. Dont get me wrong its pretty damn funny to see all the reports and waiting and teams balls out for these guys but I cant help but wish the players themselves would say a little more.

I understand why they dont but it would make it more exciting to follow.



Bosh should go to the Rockets (I dont know their cap space or how this would work) but that is a very good up and coming team. If Yao ever stays healthy he is by far the most dangerous big in the league. (Yes...he is better than your favorite guy.) Bosh, Yao, Trevor, Brooks is a nice little combo.
 
Holy shit I did indeed forget about Martin.

Yeah, thats a nice little team they got their. Hell even David Lee would fit in. Whats their cap space looking like though? Can they even sign anyone?
 
I'm not a big fan of Ariza, between him and Artest I would have kept Artest, but I like the rockets. They're a good team. They just need that one piece to go over the top.
 
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