2010-2011 NBA Season Thread

[quote name='wildcpac']So you are trying to tell me that Producers are going to spend tons of money to ship actors, director, people behind the scenes, equipment, etc etc etc to Ohio to film 1 scene or 1 commercial.


RIIIIIIGGGGHHHHHHHHTTTTTTT. Whatever makes you sleep at night. It was alot easier for Lebron to have teams to come meet him when he is meeting 4-5 teams in 48 hours. I do not blame him. Who would want to travel from NY to Miami to LA to Chicago in 4 days to meet 4 different teams.

Curry is an 11 million expiring contract. Rooster is a better player and has more upside than anybody on the Cavs not named James.[/QUOTE]


no. im saying that living in ohio is not that big of a deal when your talking about shooting commercials. lebron shoots most of his commercials in the summer. and he is usually in new york or LA or florida during the summer so there is hassle in having to travele there.
 
The most interesting thing will be seeing whether wildcpac can somehow successfully blame LeBron not signing with the Knicks on Boston. If anyone's up to the task...
 
[quote name='bvharris']The most interesting thing will be seeing whether wildcpac can somehow successfully blame LeBron not signing with the Knicks on Boston. If anyone's up to the task...[/QUOTE]

Not just Boston, but Massholes in general. Please attempt to do so. :)
 
Lebron would have been traded to the Knicks if the GM of the Cavs had been a former Knick. Thats the only way the Celtics were able to get players in. Got to love collusion to help out your former team. How much did the Celtics pay off McFail?


Channing Fyre gets 5 years 30 million from the Suns.
 
Joe Johnson agrees to a 6 year 120 million dollar deal with the Hawks. THANK GOD! Have fun losing in the second round every year. 90 percent of the Hawks fans online are killing the signing.
 
Mike Miller was given a midnight deadline by the Lakers on his 5 year 30 million contract offer.


Guy who writes for TheKnicksBlog is saying that Amare has agreed with the Knicks and is just number crunching now. Rumors online that alot of grain of salt has to be taken by this "blogger".

http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/07/01/source-amare-and-ny-in-numbers/

A source close to Amar’e's camp informs us that the Suns big man is ready to come to NY and that they are currently, “figuring out the numbers.”

I’ve somewhat posted conflicting reports about Amar’e and Miami because I’m getting info from everywhere, but it sounds like he’s ready to commit to the Big Apple and it’s a numbers crunch. One would figure it’s a big deal and a risk for the Knicks if Lebron does not come along with him.

However, could this be the first shoe to drop in what could be the greatest pick and roll tandem in NBA history?

Stay tuned…Trying to confirm. But either way we won’t know officially for a while so hang in there…
 
Wildcpac the only thing you are good for is reposting the ESPN ticker. I wish you would stop shitting in the thread with all of this so subtle NY bias crap.


"This just in, asian reporter tricia takanawa posted on her blog that Bron was seen at a NY deli signing what appeared to a contract. Turns out it was just a napkin."

How about we (wildcpac) stop busting a nut and posting rampant speculation and wait just a few seconds more for real facts.
 
Nobody is forcing you to post in here. Mr Know it all. Pat Riely? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. You follow basketball and you do not even know how to spell Pat Riley's real name. GET LAWST!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://twitter.com/paulcoro

Beat writer for the Phoenix Suns

On the Stoudemire front, I don't know which team made the better offer yet but those closer to the situation think it's New York.

Amar'e Stoudemire has received his best offer so far from another team but still talking with the Suns.
 
[quote name='bvharris']I was hoping he'd go somewhere else too, I always root for UConn guys to succeed in the pros. I loved him in college, especially as the centerpiece of that 2006 team which I still think could have won the title if they didn't choke against George Mason.[/QUOTE]

I may be a little biased because I'm in Memphis, but the Grizz have a good future. Maybe not a championship but I can at least see them winning a playoff game next season as this young team gets a little more experience. I was hoping we wouldn't offer him that much, I thought he was headed to the Clippers...

Anyway, I really hope this summer of free agency is interesting. If not, and the players all stay at home, I'll have a sour taste in my mouth.
 
Well we all knew that was coming anyway. That is what happens when you try to trade a guy 2 or 3 times. Amare should leave, although we dont know what he can do with out a PG of Nash's talent.
 
Who is Pat Riely? Come on Mr Know it all. Since you know everything about basketball. Who is Pat Riely (spelling).

I love how this is NY Bias bs. Especially when every sports writer just wrote off the Knicks the past two months.
 
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Shouldn't be a big surprise here:

@SpearsNBAYahoo: LBJ's agent Leon Rose on NY&NJ: "Both teams represented their organizations well. We appreciate their interest, effort."
 
Rumor has it that the Heat offered Amare 15 million. Heat were trying to get Amare and Bosh to both sign for 15 each.

Other Rumor is that the Suns offered Amare 4 years and Max but weren't willing to go above that.
 
i love the "becuase its new york!" or "madison square garden!" replies people give when asked why lebron should play for NYK

Why should LeBron play in New York?: "Well, it's New York"

Yeah...but, they suck. His chances of winning there aren't good any time soon: "Yeah, but it's New York!"

But, his legacy will depend on rings. New York is a complete mess of an organization: "But he's playing in New York! Madison Sqaure Garden! All the bright lights!"

So, even though you all suck, he should play in New York because...well, you're New York?: "Exactly.."
 
^Yeah, I never got that. I understand New York is a great market, but to me Lebron is a player who transcends his location. I don't think he'd "miss out" on anything if he played in Cleveland, Chicago or anywhere else. His popularity and marketability would be just as far reaching.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Well we all knew that was coming anyway. That is what happens when you try to trade a guy 2 or 3 times. Amare should leave, although we dont know what he can do with out a PG of Nash's talent.[/QUOTE]

He will bust leaving Phoenix's system.

[quote name='wildcpac']Rumor has it that the Heat offered Amare 15 million. Heat were trying to get Amare and Bosh to both sign for 15 each.
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He was not offered a contract and no they are not trying to get both. The Heat are really only looking at one of two big men: Chris Bosh and Carlos Boozer. They are interviewing other big man such as Amare, Lee, and Haywood as fall backs if Bosh or Boozer don't sign with them. They don't prefer them. Granted, Bosh is pretty much a lock in Miami with Wade at this point, which means all these visits really don't matter for the other players involved.
 
I disagree, I though Amare was their 2nd choice after Bosh. The fact that they just offered him a deal means that are most likely not getting Bosh as I see no way for them to get both.

But the Heat are doing everything backward so we will see what their angle is.

I still say Wade will stay and Bosh will follow and will pick up a solid 3rd out of all the 2nd tier guys that are running around.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']I disagree, I though Amare was their 2nd choice after Bosh. The fact that they just offered him a deal means that are most likely not getting Bosh as I see no way for them to get both.

But the Heat are doing everything backward so we will see what their angle is.

I still say Wade will stay and Bosh will follow and will pick up a solid 3rd out of all the 2nd tier guys that are running around.[/QUOTE]

Amare was not offered.
The Heat started the day with a visit to Stoudemire, but no contract offer was made after the wee-hours meeting in Los Angeles
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http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/07/01/1710403/miami-heat-quickly-meets-with.html#ixzz0sWy8kF34
 
[quote name='lordopus99']He will bust leaving Phoenix's system.



He was not offered a contract and no they are not trying to get both. The Heat are really only looking at one of two big men: Chris Bosh and Carlos Boozer. They are interviewing other big man such as Amare, Lee, and Haywood as fall backs if Bosh or Boozer don't sign with them. They don't prefer them. Granted, Bosh is pretty much a lock in Miami with Wade at this point, which means all these visits really don't matter for the other players involved.[/QUOTE]


The rumor going around is that Pat Riley was selling the Heat to Amare as being part of the 3. That you need 3 superstars. Bosh, Amare and Wade. Heat's rumor selling point is for all 3 to take 15 million each.


Paul Pierce re-signs with the Celtics. 4 years 61 million. 3 years are guaranteed
 
How the fuck did Amir Johnson sign a deal worth almost 34 mill? Talk about reckless spending. People are just throwing money at 5 or 6 tier guys just to say they signed someone during the FA.

Darko 20 million?
Joe Johnson 120 mill?

Wow, bums are making money hand over fist. Gms have way to much money and are so scared of loosing a 6th or 7th man that they will over pay just to keep him. If you have averaged 6 points for the last couple years its your turn to cash in.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']The rumor going around is that Pat Riley was selling the Heat to Amare as being part of the 3. That you need 3 superstars. Bosh, Amare and Wade.
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They don't need to sell anything to Amare. He has already stated he would love to play for them. In addition, he is from the area and has a home there. With Bosh, there is no room for Amare. They play the same position. I think the Heat's main goal is to sign Bosh and Lebron and re-sign Wade then fill the rest of the holes.
 
[quote name='lordopus99']Amare was not offered.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/07/01/1710403/miami-heat-quickly-meets-with.html#ixzz0sWy8kF34[/QUOTE]


Ahhh, I stand corrected. Could have sworn ESPN stated that they offered a contract.

Hmmm, well again. Everything is competely up in the air right now for the the top FAs. The real story is how certain players are basically stealing money from their teams. Some of these contracts are insane.


Here is a good article about the reckless spending in the NBA right now.
http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-freeagency-100701/seller-market
 
http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wi...2/stoudemire_could_come_off_market_by_friday/

Amare could be signed today. Rumor going around is that the Heat offered Amare a deal.

Lord, please go learn about the NBA. Mr. James and Wade can only get 14 million max.

Heat can afford 3 players if they all take around 15 million. Who are the best free agents on the market? Wade, Bosh, Amare and James. Who is the least likely to go to the Heat? James. That leaves the top 3 all possible.


Sood, you should be happy that Paul Pierce gave the Celtics a hometown discount.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']
Sood, you should be happy that Paul Pierce gave the Celtics a hometown discount.[/QUOTE]

I, for one, didn't think it would have gone down any different. How many times has Pierce stated he wants to retire as a Celtic? It only made sense. He was trying to help the team out. Makes perfect sense to me.
 
Per Alan Hahn of Twitter.

Stat turns down a 5 year 96 million dollar deal from the Suns. Contract included stipulations based on minutes played.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wi...2/stoudemire_could_come_off_market_by_friday/

Amare could be signed today. Rumor going around is that the Heat offered Amare a deal.
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I trust the Miami Herald over internet rumor sites.

Heat can afford 3 players if they all take around 15 million. Who are the best free agents on the market? Wade, Bosh, Amare and James. Who is the least likely to go to the Heat? James. That leaves the top 3 all possible.
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Even if James doesn't go to Miami... why would Miami want two high level/max PFs. Makes no logical sense. That's something only the Knicks do.
 
Pierce will only flop his way into the playoffs next season if Heat gets their way. Unless all those free agents Heat is looking at will find their homes on West Coast than they have a shot at finals again. Man, East Coast is lacking. LeBron will come to new york, because it's new york... yeah right. He won't touch new york jersey with a mile long stick. Those who think that are delusional. I can't wait for the Nets to come to Brooklyn, maybe then I will finally have a hometown basketball team to cheer for. As it stands now Knicks don't even deserve my fart in their direction. I mean even Robinson left this pathetic team.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/17586893467

Knicks and Amar'e Stoudemire are making progress on 5 year, max contract, sources say. Framework of deal in place, talks continuing today.[/QUOTE]

So that means that the second, 11 mil, offer to LeBron is off the table? I think if all the stars they wanted could agree to it, that probably would have been the slickest deal pulled off in the history of slick deals.

Almost as slick as KG going to the C's a few years back, right Wildc? (I keed I keed)
 
I'm glad Joe Johnson and Stoudemire are off the market, I was afraid that's who the Bulls would end up with. That being said, they need to pull in at least one of the big FA or the offseason is a complete bust.
 
[quote name='docvinh']I'm glad Joe Johnson and Stoudemire are off the market, I was afraid that's who the Bulls would end up with. That being said, they need to pull in at least one of the big FA or the offseason is a complete bust.[/QUOTE]


Still a long ways to go and anything can happen. I cant agree with you though as of right now. Bosh and Wade to the Heat. Amare to the Knicks. Johnson stays in Atlanta. That is how things look right now and anything can change in a heartbeat.

Do the Bulls look attractive to LeBron if the Bulls cannot land another big time player? Nothing is set in stone but that has to hurt the Bulls luster if they cannot bring in another player.
 
OK, so one rumor says Amare has an agreement with the Knicks with the details still being worked out.

Another rumor says Wade was "intrigued" by what the Knicks had to say.

Anyone think that the Knicks have a chance of pulling off the LeBron/Wade/Amare all for 11.5 per year to play together trifecta?

Everybody talks about the fact that NY can't actually make you extra money and that these players (LeBron and Wade anyways) are already global superstars. But, don't you have to think that if something like this happened and they were TEAMMATES taking LESS money to try for a championship in the greatest city in the world that they would increase their earning capacity a lot?
 
Some Bulls news:

@IraHeatBeat Potentially staggering news, Dwyane Wade is poised to meet again tonight with the Bulls, likely in the presence of his agent.

There may not be any truth behind this one:

I've been told the meeting between the Bulls and Boozer went well and that the Bulls have Carlos Boozer locked up if they want him. Whether they move forward will be based on the results of their meetings with Bosh and Lee tonight and whether they want to enter their meeting with LeBron with Boozer or Lee locked up for sure to enter with a shot at Bosh still.

It's also possible [my own theorizing] that they could go into the meeting with Boozer virtually locked up and present their team to LeBron based on different contingencies.

I throw this out there with the typical "grain of salt" caveat. When news filters down to a small time reporter like me you should always be suspicious, so let's not go nuts with the "Doug said this and Doug wouldn't lie".

No, I wouldn't lie, but we've all played "telephone" and I'm not talking to Boozer or Gar Forman here, so you never know how this stuff can alter as it gets filtered by the time it reaches me.
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I can picture the Bulls having Boozer locked up. Amare to the Knicks, Wade and Bosh to the Heat, Johnson to the Hawks, LeBron who knows.


Wade going to the Bulls would really throw things for a curveball. Due to the Bulls not having enough to give 2 Max Deals.

Bosh to the Nets? Bosh to the Rockets?


Wade to the Bulls. James would be a fool to stay in Cleveland.
 
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Yeah sounds like Wade and James to the Bulls is a possibility now.

@WojYahooNBA Wade, Chicago meeting for second time on Friday as Wade becomes further intrigued with Bulls — and possible LBJ partnership. link coming.

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@WojYahooNBA Y! Sources: Wade, Bulls meeting for second time in Chicago and a partnership with LeBron is on agenda. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wadelebronbulls072010

The Bulls are trying to line up a commitment from Wade prior to their formal presentation with James in Cleveland on Saturday, sources said.
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Sources say that Chicago has a proposed trade of Luol Deng looming for what’s described as a “serviceable center,” that could help to clear more space.
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One report I read says that the Raptors really like Lee and want to work out a sign and trade for Lee (and other parts I assume, probably expiring contracts) in exchange for Bosh.

With some reports already putting Amare in NY, can anyone tell me the salary implications of a signing Bosh via a trade and signing Amare. Does that leave room for LeBron or Wade?
 
Wade isn't going to bring his lover Bosh with him? What is going on? Those two looked like bf/gf in a recent picture from Bosh's twitter.


Knicks and Bosh are having another meeting tonight as well.
 
[quote name='gregthomas77']One report I read says that the Raptors really like Lee and want to work out a sign and trade for Lee (and other parts I assume, probably expiring contracts) in exchange for Bosh.

With some reports already putting Amare in NY, can anyone tell me the salary implications of a signing Bosh via a trade and signing Amare. Does that leave room for LeBron or Wade?[/QUOTE]


Knicks have somewhere between 34-36 million in cap room. Max Deal for Bosh, Amare, Wade and Lebron next year is going to be between 16.5 to 16.8 million. If Bosh signs with the Raptors and is traded his #'s would be around an extra million.5 per year. So his starting salary would be around 18 million and he can get 6 years instead of 5.

So free market. 5 years 100 million. Sign with your team and get traded 6 years 130 millionish.

Knicks have the money for 2 max 16.5-18 million players as of right now.

If the Knicks trade Eddy Curry's expiring 11.5 million 2011 contract and Wilson Chandler/Danillo for Bosh. Knicks would still have enough money left over for Amare/James. Possible but not likely.
 
I read that one reason why Wade could be meeting with the Bulls again is because he is upset that the Heat let Amare go to the Knicks.

On LeBron, my guess is that it's going to be between two teams; either Chicago or Cleveland. I am a Bulls fan, but I see him staying with Cleveland. If the Bulls can get a commitment out of Wade though, then I think the Bulls will have a huge advantage to sign LeBron.

This just came up too:
@KCJHoop Bulls made initial contact with Wade camp for second meeting and were "enthusiastically received."
 
I think James is Cleveland or NY/NJ. I cannot picture him playing in Jordans shadow. I cannot picture him screwing over Cleveland/Ohio to go to the Bulls.

How do the Bulls expect to dump off salary from Deng if they have to take on equal salary in return? Or are they going to find a team stupid enough to trade draft picks for a guy who is owed 4 years 50 million.


Oooooo and the way that the Bulls, Knicks, Heat and Nets appear to be constructing their teams with actual talent. James would be beyond stupid to go back to that mess in Cleveland. 2-3 teams are going to make themselves a powerhouse, Celtics still have their core which can win 50 games and be dangerous in the playoffs and the Magic are still a strong team.
 
Wait so is Amare to the Knicks confirmed or is it just more rumors? I cant find anywhere that says its confirmed.


Wade to the bulls wouldnt be bad either. Hmmmmm....this is getting fun. I cant wait to see what the losers will do when the top FA are locked up and they are in a panic for players.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Wait so is Amare to the Knicks confirmed or is it just more rumors? I cant find anywhere that says its confirmed.


Wade to the bulls wouldnt be bad either. Hmmmmm....this is getting fun. I cant wait to see what the losers will do when the top FA are locked up and they are in a panic for players.[/QUOTE]

The Amare to Knicks is still a rumor but it sounds like both sides are moving fast on the contract negotiations.

As for Wade and the Bulls, I still think it is a long shot. The only thing Wade asked for is to get another star with him and it looks like they will most likely be getting Bosh. I still think Wade/Bosh is still a given in Miami.
 
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