2010-2011 NBA Season Thread

As someone who grew up half an hour outside of NYC, had over 10 people from my hometown die on 9/11 in the WTC, including classmates from HS. Mr Herpes can go SHAQ FU HIMSELF. The Miami cHEAT are proving time and time again that they are the biggest scum in the nba.

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/18/heat-supporting-cast-has-become-better-than-expected/

"We're going to be wearing a bullseye. But that's what you play for," Wade said. "We enjoy the bullseye. Plus, there's going to be times when we lose 2-3 games in a row, and it seems like the world has crashed down. You all are going to make it seem like the World Trade is coming down again, but it's not going to be nothing but a couple basketball games."
 
The original quote before it was edited because of a "transctiption error" posted by G in the comments section.

"But that's what you play for. If we lose a couple in a row this season, it will be like the World Trade (Center) is coming down again. When the schedule comes out, people will be looking for the Lakers and Heat, to see when they play us. I feel like I'm a new player in Miami. That's how excited I am."
 
[quote name='wildcpac']
Look at the Rivalries form the 1980's to the 1990's. NBA had the top players playing against eachother and not with eachother.

Magic vs Bird
Bird vs Thomas
Thomas vs Jordan
Jordan vs Magic
Jordan vs Drexler
Jordan vs Barkley
Jordan vs Malone
[/QUOTE]
Surely you didn't intend to leave out:
Olajuwon vs. Ewing
Olajuwon vs. O'Neal
Even the sub matchups before the Finals. Ewing vs Jordan, Ewing vs Reggie Miller, Malone vs Kemp, Miller vs Jordan
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In the West:
Olajuwon vs. Malone
Olajuwon vs. Barkley
Olajuwon vs. Robinson
Olajuwon vs. Kemp

As for superstars who have won a championship "alone," I think The Dream in 1994 is the only one that counts. But perhaps I'm biased. :cool:
 
Ewing vs Olajuwon lacked sizzle, the ratings stunk and game 5? got over shadowed by a White Ford Bronco chase on the high way.

Olajuwon vs Shaq was a 4 game sweep.

Olajuwon had a ton of great role players on the Rockets in 1994. Maxwell, Smith, Horry, Alien Baby, etc.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']Ewing vs Olajuwon lacked sizzle, the ratings stunk and game 5? got over shadowed by a White Ford Bronco chase on the high way. [/QUOTE]Or are you just too upset the Knicks lost? ;)
Olajuwon vs Shaq was a 4 game sweep.
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Rockets entered the Finals as the 6th seed in the West, got behind by 20 in game 1 and rallied to win in overtime. Not exciting enough? Can you deny that it was not a marque matchup: Olajuwon and Drexler vs. O'Neal and Hardway?
Olajuwon had a ton of great role players on the Rockets in 1994. Maxwell, Smith, Horry, Alien Baby, etc.
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No argument, but not a single All-Star among them (only Otis Thorpe had been an All-Star in a previous season, 1992). The Dream had no "Robin" to take the heat off him.
 
[quote name='mis0']We gave up a bit too much for David Lee, but hey, it's the Warriors, what do ya expect?

You can fill an All-Star roster with all the talent the Warriors traded away in the past 10-15 years.[/QUOTE]

Gave up too much?

We traded a D-Leaguer, a scrub, and a 21-year-old headcase for the best PF the Warriors have had since Webber?

And what talent?

C-Webb in '94?
Carter for Jamison swap back in '96?

Ever since Lord Nellie and Riley have taken control from idiotic Mullin and Rowell, the teams cap structure and overall outlook has improved.

Mullin signs Murphy/Dunpussy to ridiculous deals and luckily Nelson found a way to trade them for S-Jax/Al which led to 'We Believe'.

Mullin signs Maggette and Riley finds a way to dump that horrendous contract on the Bucks.

Rowell extends S-Jax for some idiotic reason, and Riley finds a way to trade him to the Bobcats for shorter deals.

He also drafted the franchise savior Stephen Curry.

I'm all for firing Nellie because he has no clue what to do coaching wise, but his eye for talent (ie; Morrow, Tolliver, Reggie Williams) is irrefutable.

Fire Nellie, put him as a "Senior scout" and replace him with Brian Shaw.

Boom.
 
Carter/Jamison swap was in 1998. Randolph might be a headcase but the kid has a ton of potential and had to play for a drunken fool. If he came out this year, he would have been a top 10 pick. Change of scenery might do him a world of favors. Turiaf can get 4-5 rebounds and block 1-2 shots in less than 20 minutes. Azubuike can score some points and his career behind the 3 point line is over .400.

Thats alot to give up in my book for a free agent. Knicks got a center who can play some defense, a sg who can score some points and make a 3 and a 21 year old pf who can play some d, grab some boards, score some points and block shots. Not a bad haul for David Lee.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']Carter/Jamison swap was in 1998. Randolph might be a headcase but the kid has a ton of potential and had to play for a drunken fool. If he came out this year, he would have been a top 10 pick. Change of scenery might do him a world of favors. Turiaf can get 4-5 rebounds and block 1-2 shots in less than 20 minutes. Azubuike can score some points and his career behind the 3 point line is over .400.

Thats alot to give up in my book for a free agent. Knicks got a center who can play some defense, a sg who can score some points and make a 3 and a 21 year old pf who can play some d, grab some boards, score some points and block shots. Not a bad haul for David Lee.[/QUOTE]

It's not a bad trade, but it's still as is.

A D-League scrub = Buke

Scrub = Turiaf

21-year-old headcase = Randolph.

There's a reason these 3 didn't even break the starting line-up of a 20 something win team.

I wish the best for those three (especially Kelenna) but Turiaf's on a one year deal and Azubuike had no place in our line-up with Morrow and Reggie Williams in place.
 
Hold on a second. How is Buke a D League scrub? He can play some defense, averaged 14 ppg in his last 80 games and can shoot the 3. What world is that a D League Scrub? Plus he is only 27 and has a cheap contract.

Turiaf is a scrub? He averages 5-6 points, 4-5 rebounds, 1-2 blocks per game in less than 20 minutes. How is a backup center who can play defense, not be a liability on offense, pass well and be a good teammate be a scrub?

Randolph is 21 years old. I can give you a ton of head cases in the NBA. It's called being young, immature and having to play for a drunken idiot.

Buike started 60 games out of his last 80 with the Warriors. That includes an injury being thrown in. Randolph was a 19/20 year old project with the Warriors. I think his lack of weight had more to do with his lack of minutes. Guy has steadily put on muscle/weight since coming into the NBA. Turiaf is a slightly above average backup/starting center in the NBA who plays defense. He doesn't fit into Drunken Donnie's gameplan.


Good luck with David No D Lee. Who is by far and away the most over rated player in the league. That the fact that the Knicks got Randolph for Lee is a steal in it's own right. Especially since Lee was a free agent and the Knicks had no future plans for him.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']Hold on a second. How is Buke a D League scrub? He can play some defense, averaged 14 ppg in his last 80 games and can shoot the 3. What world is that a D League Scrub? Plus he is only 27 and has a cheap contract.

Turiaf is a scrub? He averages 5-6 points, 4-5 rebounds, 1-2 blocks per game in less than 20 minutes. How is a backup center who can play defense, not be a liability on offense, pass well and be a good teammate be a scrub?

Randolph is 21 years old. I can give you a ton of head cases in the NBA. It's called being young, immature and having to play for a drunken idiot.

Buike started 60 games out of his last 80 with the Warriors. That includes an injury being thrown in. Randolph was a 19/20 year old project with the Warriors. I think his lack of weight had more to do with his lack of minutes. Guy has steadily put on muscle/weight since coming into the NBA. Turiaf is a slightly above average backup/starting center in the NBA who plays defense. He doesn't fit into Drunken Donnie's gameplan.


Good luck with David No D Lee. Who is by far and away the most over rated player in the league. That the fact that the Knicks got Randolph for Lee is a steal in it's own right. Especially since Lee was a free agent and the Knicks had no future plans for him.[/QUOTE]

Wouldn't say most overrated in the league, and he doesn't play defense so he fits in.

The fact that I have to explain this is ridiculous, because I can guarantee I'm the only one who's sadly watched a Warriors game.

Buke is a D-League scrub, because we called him up from the D-League and like I said was irrelevant with Morrow and Reggie Williams.

If Turiaf was so good on defense why was he getting murdered by David Lee when Lee dropped 30/20 against us.

Randolph is a long line of players with the same set of tools, Tyrus Thomas being one of them.

He has a world of talent, but in all honesty do I ever see him being better than D.Lee is? No.
 
David Lee in the first game against the Warriors put up 17 points. He put up 37 points in the second game in 45 minutes. Turiaf only played 15 minutes. You are going to sit here and blame Turiaf for Lee scoring 37 points? Come on! Turiaf also had 5 blocks in those 15 minutes of gameplay.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201004020GSW.html

Ok, Buike came up from the D League. That doesn't make him a scrub. Scrubs do not score 14 ppg on decent shooting and great 3 point shooting while playing defense as well.

Anthony Mason and John Starks came up through the CBA and USBL. You do not see me calling them scrubs.

Tyrus Thomas is 4 years older than Randolph. Kind of hard to compare the two.
 
David Lee is out 4-6 weeks with a finger injury and will miss Team USA basketball.


How did he get injured? Blocking a shot! Guy finally plays defense and he gets hurt. Sucks to happen to him but that is irony.
 
[quote name='strongpimphand']I'm sorry, but whoa....let's not forget history!

Kobe won 3 rings with the most dominate center of our generation - Shaq. Nobody, and I mean nobody, is going to say "Well, Kobe really only has 2 rings because he was the leader of the last two he won...."

No, they're going to say "Kobe has 5 rings"

Magic Johnson has 5 rings. Nevermind that he was blessed to play with James Worthy and Kareem. He has 5 rings.

Tim Duncan, one of the greatest power forwards outside of Karl Malone in the past 25 years, has 4 rings. Nobody cares that he won two with The Admiral. They (those who don't yawn when mentioning him) know that he has 4 rings.

Jordan is the onl yperson that can be mentioned that basically won it "by himself", and of course he didn't. He had Pippen by his side the whole time, who nearly won a championship by himself! And then he always had a big bruiser (Grant/Rodman) who did the dirty work so he could do his job.

Its not fair that everyone is already talking about LeBron's legacy as if him being aligned with two superstars = no longer considered a great of all time. That's just hate. Most superstars in the NBA had at least one other superstar on his team! One player that if removed, the whole team falls apart. LeBron has Wade, and in the same respect, Wade has Lebron. Bosh is so unproven it's pitiful. He never had the big lights on him. I'm sure the Canadian media didn't grill him like the American media will when he goes into a slump. He's about to get pimped by the media and he better be ready for it. I expect him to faulter...

But that's not relevant to my point. If LeBron ends up winning 2-5 rings with that team, he should not have his legacy chipped away for it. Winning a ring is HARD. Ask A.I, Malone, Miller, and other superstars of the past 25 years. All this crap about how LeBron is going to not seem important enough to be considered an all-time great because he aligned himself with his peers is just pitiful.[/QUOTE]

Did those players go out of their way to join one of the very best in the league and get another top player to come with them onto a completely different team? Nope. That's why you won't see their legacy tarnished by having great supporting players. Those players were on their team, they did not go out of their way to find them and transport themselves onto another team. Like wildpac said they also were either not matched up in their prime together or put together at the same time. You got Bosh, Wade, Lebron who all entered the NBA in 2003 and are ages 26, 28, 25. It's a mockery of the sport to have such players all on 1 team at the same age and time frame.

How is it hate, it's simple statistics. James chose it himself. He's never won a championship on a avg-good team, he may never. His championships will only come with the help of Wade and Bosh. If you can only win with one of the very best - on your team and another top player, that says a lot.
 
Chris Paul wants out of New Orleans. Numerous sites are reporting that he has let it be known that he wants out. He has demanded a trade to the Lakers, Magic or Knicks.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/13659617/new-hornets-brass-already-facing-crisis-with-paul/

"He wants out," said the person, who has been briefed on Paul's strategy but spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss it publicly. "He wants to play with another superstar. He wants to follow LeBron's model of teaming up with other great players."

Paul's list of preferred destinations consists of the Knicks, Magic and Lakers, and members of his inner circle already have sent word to the Hornets of his desire to be traded to one of those teams, sources say. If Paul has his way, he's played his last game in a Hornets jersey.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']Chris Paul wants out of New Orleans. Numerous sites are reporting that he has let it be known that he wants out. He has demanded a trade to the Lakers, Magic or Knicks.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/13659617/new-hornets-brass-already-facing-crisis-with-paul/

"He wants out," said the person, who has been briefed on Paul's strategy but spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss it publicly. "He wants to play with another superstar. He wants to follow LeBron's model of teaming up with other great players."

Paul's list of preferred destinations consists of the Knicks, Magic and Lakers, and members of his inner circle already have sent word to the Hornets of his desire to be traded to one of those teams, sources say. If Paul has his way, he's played his last game in a Hornets jersey.[/QUOTE]

Chris Paul in Orlando would be insane, though what happens with Nelson? Lakers and Knicks make more sense, but do either have the pieces to get him?
 
While Paul on the Lakers would make a good videogame team, I don't really see him fitting into the triangle offense. He'd probably work very well in New York with D'Antoni and Amare.
 
Knicks have some pieces now. Only problem is that they cant trade Felton until December 15th since he just signed a contract. Knicks cant trade Randolph, Buike and Turiaf combined in any trades for 2 months I believe.

I think the Knicks have a slight chance in getting him. It would be multiplied if they were willing to take on OK4's contract. I just do not see New Orleans trading him off immediately but he is definitely good as gone after 2012. They cannot afford to be left with there dick in their hands like the Cavs.
 
imagine if he ended up in miami.

paul
wade
lebron
bosh
z


thats the starting lineup for the east all star team pretty much besides Z
 
[quote name='wwe101']imagine if he ended up in miami.

paul
wade
lebron
bosh
z


thats the starting lineup for the east all star team pretty much besides Z[/QUOTE]


Miami doesn't have any pieces to trade for Paul. They aren't trading the big 3 for Paul. They aren't going to be able to get Paul for Mike Miller or Haslem or Chalmers. Miami doesn't even have draft picks to include since they gave those up for Rupaul and Ledouche.
 
Anyone who has the pieces for Paul wouldn't have the pieces he wants next to him once he gets there.

Have fun for the next 4 years in New Orleans.
 
Richard Jefferson doesn't look that stupid anymore!

http://www.nba.com/news/features/aldridge.2010.freeagency/

Sources tells TNT's David Aldridge that forward Richard Jefferson's new contract with the San Antonio Spurs, officially announced on Wednesday, is for four years and $38.8 million, with a player option for the final season at a little more than $11 million.

Jefferson had opted out of the final year of his contract with the Spurs, which would have paid him $15 million next season, in order to test free agency. But most league officials believed the 30-year-old Jefferson would re-sign with the Spurs, who acquired him from Milwaukee last summer in a deal with the Bucks for Bruce Bowen and Kurt Thomas. Jefferson struggled for much of last season with the Spurs as he learned Gregg Popovich's system, averaging just 12.3 points, his lowest average since his rookie season.

But veteran players usually take at least a year or two to fully pick up the Spurs' complex offensive and defensive systems, and tend to improve greatly in their second or third season. The Spurs anticipate that Jefferson, a career 47 percent shooter, will return to his normal form next season.

Jefferson will make back all of the $15 million he gave up this year -- he will earn more than $27 million in the first three years of the deal -- and now has some security that he will not be a free agent in a summer where the possibility of a lockout by owners to get a new Collective Bargaining Agreement is increasingly likely.
 
[quote name='J7.']How is it hate, it's simple statistics. James chose it himself. He's never won a championship on a avg-good team, he may never. His championships will only come with the help of Wade and Bosh. If you can only win with one of the very best - on your team and another top player, that says a lot.[/QUOTE]

Those same simple statistics would say Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and Kevin Garnett are the same way. They couldn't get it done on avg-good teams until the three came together and won. The difference in it all is they wasted years of the career, where Lebron and gang didn't.

[quote name='craven_fiend']Chris Paul in Orlando would be insane, though what happens with Nelson? Lakers and Knicks make more sense, but do either have the pieces to get him? [/QUOTE]

The rumor had Nelson being dealt along with Carter for him. Either way though whatever the trade offer was, it was denied earlier so I don't see it happening.

I don't see him moving this offseason to any of his requested teams. Paul wouldn't work in the Lakers system. NY doesn't have anyone worth it to deal for him.
 
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[quote name='wildcpac']Miami doesn't have any pieces to trade for Paul. They aren't trading the big 3 for Paul. They aren't going to be able to get Paul for Mike Miller or Haslem or Chalmers. Miami doesn't even have draft picks to include since they gave those up for Rupaul and Ledouche.[/QUOTE]

Hate to say it but wildouche is right, there is no way the heat could land him.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']Anyone who has the pieces for Paul wouldn't have the pieces he wants next to him once he gets there.

Have fun for the next 4 years in New Orleans.[/QUOTE]

It won't happen, but one team which springs to mind which could probably pull it off and still field a good team is Boston. Of course they'd have to trade Rondo, which I'm not sure is worth it.

Bill Simmons on his twitter pitched the idea of Rondo + Perk + Sheed + a future pick for Paul + Okafor. I'm a big Okafor fan from his days at UConn, but I'm not sure I'd do that if I'm the Celtics.
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5401230

The New York Knicks are the first team on point guard Chris Paul's wish list of clubs he'd like New Orleans to trade him to, according to sources.


Paul
Orlando, where he could team with superstar center Dwight Howard, is the second team on Paul's list, which includes Dallas and then Portland, according to sources.

In the ideal scenario, Paul and the Denver Nuggets' Carmelo Anthony would wind up in New York to play alongside Amare Stoudemire, forming a big three that could compete with Miami's newly formed super trio of LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh.

"Those guys want to beat the three guys in Miami," a source close to the situation said.

A report Wednesday on CBSSports.com said Paul saw what James did in signing to play alongside Wade and Bosh and has designs on doing something similar.

Paul and his representatives are expected to meet with the Hornets within the next week, the sources said. If they are not presented with realistic scenarios that convince Paul that New Orleans can build a contender very quickly, he'll ask the club to begin speaking to the Knicks, Magic, Mavericks and Trail Blazers about possible trades.

Anthony has one year left on his deal with the Nuggets before he can become a free agent. The Nuggets, meanwhile, have offered Anthony a three-year, $65 million contract extension.

Anthony has until next June 30 to sign the extension, and the Nuggets have said they have no intention of trading Anthony. While most league executives believe Anthony will sign the extension, several sources close to him said he will not sign and that his ultimate desire is to play in New York.

Paul's demands come in the immediate aftermath of a Hornets overhaul within the coaching staff and front office. A little more than a month after making 38-year-old Monty Williams the youngest coach in the NBA, the Hornets hired Williams' longtime friend and former NBA teammate, 40-year-old Dell Demps, as general manager Wednesday.

Chris Broussard is a senior NBA writer for ESPN The Magazine.
 
Dallas has spent a long time looking to get Paul so they probably will do just about everything it takes to get him. If they get him without giving up too many valuable assets they could be an elite team next year.
 
Allan Houston is rumored to take over as the GM of the Knicks with Donnie Walsh staying on as the President.

Do the Mavericks even have tradeable chips? Does CP3 even really want to go to Dallas? Terry, Dirk, Marion, Butler, Chandler and Kidd are all up their in age.


Chris Paul will meet with the Hornets on Monday it is being reported.
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']Chris Paul in Orlando would be insane, though what happens with Nelson? Lakers and Knicks make more sense, but do either have the pieces to get him?[/QUOTE]

Nelson would no doubt be one of the players traded for Paul.

I'm guessing he ends up in New York though. Orlando is already way into the luxury tax (think the current salary is $93 million IIRC) so it would be hard to make the numbers work to add Paul without giving up too much of the roster as I doubt the Hornets would take Vince Carter.
 
all this talk of paul going to knicks to form a super team with melo and amare has me disugsted. what the fuck is the nba turning into. all the nba greats are rolling over in their graves watching superstars join each other instead of try to beat each other.
 
Do the Hornets even want Jameer Nelson? They already have Darren Collison who put up 12.4 ppg and 5.7 apg last year and is only 23. He can also shoot the 3 and play some d. I cannot picture a trade for CP3 being centered around a point guard.


Yes, CP3 and Melo going to the NYK will be the best thing for the league. NBA needs a powerhouse in NY and it will be great to see the NYK become the NYY Evil Empire in the NBA.
 
[quote name='wwe101']all this talk of paul going to knicks to form a super team with melo and amare has me disugsted. what the fuck is the nba turning into. all the nba greats are rolling over in their graves watching superstars join each other instead of try to beat each other.[/QUOTE]

Theres no more serious hatred/competition any more. Its all people sucking each other off and doing the "bro" thing. "Yeah, he's my bro. I'd like to play with him sometime. He's a great guy and an even better baller." You'd never catch MJ or Bird or Magic saying that about the competition.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']Yes, CP3 and Melo going to the NYK will be the best thing for the league. NBA needs a powerhouse in NY and it will be great to see the NYK become the NYY Evil Empire in the NBA.[/QUOTE]

YES. Make this happen!!
 
[quote name='wildcpac']Do the Hornets even want Jameer Nelson? They already have Darren Collison who put up 12.4 ppg and 5.7 apg last year and is only 23. He can also shoot the 3 and play some d. I cannot picture a trade for CP3 being centered around a point guard.
[/QUOTE]

Nelson couldn't be the centerpiece for sure, but he'd be one of the players as they'd need another experienced PG even if it's as a back up.

But I don't see CP in Orlando unless it's some multi-team trade. I'm not sure I want it as a Magic fan anyway. Nelson has good chemistry with Howard and the current roster. I'm a don't fix it, if it ain't broken guy.

Magic's main need is a low post scorer to take some pressure off Howard IMO, as I've said many times. Be it Bass getting playing time this year now that Barnes is gone, or picking up someone else.
 
[quote name='javeryh']YES. Make this happen!![/QUOTE]


I need to make a correction. CP3 and Melo going to NYK to join up with Amare would be Return of the Jedi. Those 3 to combat Ledouche, Mr Herpes and Rupaul on the Miami cHeat.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Nelson couldn't be the centerpiece for sure, but he'd be one of the players as they'd need another experienced PG even if it's as a back up.

But I don't see CP in Orlando unless it's some multi-team trade. I'm not sure I want it as a Magic fan anyway. Nelson has good chemistry with Howard and the current roster. I'm a don't fix it, if it ain't broken guy.

Magic's main need is a low post scorer to take some pressure off Howard IMO, as I've said many times. Be it Bass getting playing time this year now that Barnes is gone, or picking up someone else.[/QUOTE]


Only way they are doing a Jameer Nelson trade is if there is a 3rd team involved. Darren Collison is 5 years younger and already showing more promise. What is the point of having Nelson coming off of the bench and he would be pissed to be traded to NOH and be a bench player.
 
[quote name='bvharris']

Bill Simmons on his twitter pitched the idea of Rondo + Perk + Sheed + a future pick for Paul + Okafor. I'm a big Okafor fan from his days at UConn, but I'm not sure I'd do that if I'm the Celtics.[/QUOTE]

If I'm the Celtics, no way would I do that.

I'm probably impartial though, since Rondo's my favorite player.
 
[quote name='advanced']If I'm the Celtics, no way would I do that.

I'm probably impartial though, since Rondo's my favorite player.[/QUOTE]

Um didn't Sheed retire?
 
[quote name='FrankySox']Um didn't Sheed retire?[/QUOTE]

I think its still up in the air. He's got a lot of money left on the table though, and the C's can trade that contract to free up space/get another player.
 
[quote name='FrankySox']Um didn't Sheed retire?[/QUOTE]
Thats what makes him attractive to other teams. The other team could trade a player with a similar cap hit to the Celtics, take Wallace back and only pay him a fraction of his contract as a buyout.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']I need to make a correction. CP3 and Melo going to NYK to join up with Amare would be Return of the Jedi. Those 3 to combat Ledouche, Mr Herpes and Rupaul on the Miami cHeat.[/QUOTE]

Okay, seriously, enough with the childish names. I think most of us would prefer our discussion to occur on an adult level.
 
[quote name='BigSpoonyBard']Okay, seriously, enough with the childish names. I think most of us would prefer our discussion to occur on an adult level.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']Allan Houston is rumored to take over as the GM of the Knicks with Donnie Walsh staying on as the President.

Do the Mavericks even have tradeable chips? Does CP3 even really want to go to Dallas? Terry, Dirk, Marion, Butler, Chandler and Kidd are all up their in age.


Chris Paul will meet with the Hornets on Monday it is being reported.[/QUOTE]


Dallas has 30 million dollars in expiring contracts. They are more setup than any team to trade for him.

George Shinn is a cheap mother fucker. He would rather run an average team on the cheap than a good team that is over the cap.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Dallas has 30 million dollars in expiring contracts. They are more setup than any team to trade for him.

George Shinn is a cheap mother fucker. He would rather run an average team on the cheap than a good team that is over the cap.[/QUOTE]


Shinn might be cheap but he still needs to field a team and sell tickets. The only worth wild potential free agent in 2011 is Melo and there is zero chance in hell he is going to NOH. I just cannot buy the NOH trading off CP3 so they can use their new found cap room on marginal players and continue to be a sub .500 team.
 
Why would CP3 want to play in Dallas though?

I never really understood how much influence a player has in terms of trading. Sometimes players get completely screwed over by trades and other times a player can pick and choose where he wants to go.

Sometimes you see a guy flat out say no to going someplace and he winds up going another even if the deal benefits the team more.
 
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