2010-2011 NBA Season Thread

You guys know my position on the Heat but its going to be sweet drinking the tears of you when they finally get their chemistry right.

Real life not equal to NBA 2k11.

They knew from the start they were not going to win right away while trying to get used to each others play. D-Wade I think said this many times in interviews. Half way through the season they will get their legs back, Miller back and flow make and start crushing people. Get your shots in while you can.


Also, if you havent seen the Blake Griffin highlights this year...now this shit is a video game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aspCHyeOLPQ
 
^^ yea right. if i can qoute lebron "not 1 not 2, 3 ,4,5,6,7,8 championships!". these punks thought the rest of the league was going to lie down for them.

right after lebron signs with miami "this is going to be easy"

after the heat lost to the grizzles “This wasn’t something I thought was easy ... I would rather it not be easy because you have to go through growing pains to be great at the end when you face those challenges you had early in the year. The easy button is not for us.”

lmao this guy just needs to keep his mouth shut becuase every time he opens it, he looks like an idiot:lol:
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']You guys know my position on the Heat but its going to be sweet drinking the tears of you when they finally get their chemistry right.

Real life not equal to NBA 2k11.

They knew from the start they were not going to win right away while trying to get used to each others play. D-Wade I think said this many times in interviews. Half way through the season they will get their legs back, Miller back and flow make and start crushing people. Get your shots in while you can.

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There's been a lot of Heat hating going on that I forgot that there would be Heat bandwagon fans as well.
 
[quote name='madbst']There's been a lot of Heat hating going on that I forgot that there would be Heat bandwagon fans as well.[/QUOTE]


$$$$a Please. :roll:

I dont even like the heat. I just find it pretty pathetic that people overly hate the Heat because they are butt hurt about LeBron At what point are we going to get off this LeBron bullshit.

Not everything is about LeBron all the god damn time. D-Wade and Bosh have pretty much kept their noses clean and D-Wade stated many times that he felt that the team was going to have a rough time adjusting. Clearly he didnt predict how bad but still. I just dont like when people hate on the entire team because of their fake dislike and over reaction for LeBron.

I also find it very irritating when people go completely out of their way to bring him up. Its just like Farve and Justin Beiber. Their names get brought up more by the people who supposedly hate them than their actual fans.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']


Also, if you havent seen the Blake Griffin highlights this year...now this shit is a video game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aspCHyeOLPQ[/QUOTE]

Now Blake Griffin, that kid is just vicious. He's throwing down dunks like Vince Carter circa Toronto, and he's grabbing boards to boot. He doesn't make the Clippers tolerable, but you at least always want to see the highlights of a Clippers game.
 
The Clippers should be doing better than what they have. Being from Detroit I have seen this before (Tasty Detroit Lions) they have talent leaking out of their ears and they cant seem to ever get it together.

Also, The Heats problem has nothing to do with Bron. Have you seen how awful D-Wade is playing? There is something completely off about his game. Not having a off season must have really messed with him, completely out of rhythm. Once he gets out of this cold streak they should be fine. I believe there was no doubt that he is the leader of that team and with him bumming they just cant get it together.
 
trust me, my hate for both lebron and the heat is not "fake". this is the first time i have hated a sports team with a passion:)
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']The Clippers should be doing better than what they have. Being from Detroit I have seen this before (Tasty Detroit Lions) they have talent leaking out of their ears and they cant seem to ever get it together.

Also, The Heats problem has nothing to do with Bron. Have you seen how awful D-Wade is playing? There is something completely off about his game. Not having a off season must have really messed with him, completely out of rhythm. Once he gets out of this cold streak they should be fine. I believe there was no doubt that he is the leader of that team and with him bumming they just cant get it together.[/QUOTE]
There's a problem with LeBron insomuch that he takes turns being "the guy" that night instead of adapting his game to play with Wade. And he takes a ton of jump shots for a guy who isn't really a good shooter. Wade's the one with the mid range game, LeBron should be down on the block posting guys up and kicking it out when they double him. They would be unstoppable. Bosh can't be the perimeter guy he wants to be either, not on that team.

It seems like they're having too much fun partying in Miami and they don't want to work.
 
So do you guys think anything crazy will go down with the Cavs vs. Heat game Thursday? I'm debating whether I should go downtown and try to take it all in firsthand, but I'm guessing nothing major will happen.
 
[quote name='Friend of Sonic']Can someone sum up the Suns chances this year as a playoff caliber team? I've been a terrible fan this season and haven't been keeping up.[/QUOTE]

They'll be in, but they're likely to lose in the first round to the Spurs, Lakers, Mavs, or Jazz.
 
[quote name='Ultimate Matt X']So do you guys think anything crazy will go down with the Cavs vs. Heat game Thursday? I'm debating whether I should go downtown and try to take it all in firsthand, but I'm guessing nothing major will happen.[/QUOTE]

Lebron gets introduced. Longest boo ever. Game starts. Boo's. James makes shot. Boo's. Repeat 10-15 times. Ilgauskas comes in the game. Only cheer of the game. Cavs lose. More boo's.
 
I'm surprised the Lakers dropped 3 straight. The minutes might be affecting Gasol.

Anyways, that Turkoglu song was great. Once they mentioned Stromile Swift, I knew I was in for a treat.
 
[quote name='madbst']Lebron gets introduced. Longest boo ever. Game starts. Boo's. James makes shot. Boo's. Repeat 10-15 times. Ilgauskas comes in the game. Only cheer of the game. Cavs lose. More boo's.[/QUOTE]

You're probably right, though I do think it'll be a little more eventful than that. I'm sure they'll have to throw some drunks out for throwing shit or something.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Any Skip Bayless fans or haters here?[/QUOTE]

I don't always agree with him but, the guy debates very well. He was also 100% right about King James.
 
[quote name='thirdrose']I'm surprised the Lakers dropped 3 4 straight. [/QUOTE]

Fixed. :D

Celtics are on a 5 game win streak right now, so I'm in a great mood! Rondo was beastin' it during the Cavs game. I've still gotta get a hold of tonights game, but I heard Pierce went off on the Blazers.

Anybody else feel bad for Greg Oden? Dude just has the worse luck.
 
[quote name='wwe101']Lebron returns to cleveland tonight. it should be epic.[/QUOTE]

Should be fun.

I think it is going to be like the World Cup. Except instead of Vuvuzelas, it will be people yelling "Boo!" and "fuck you, you assbitch".

I just hope the Cavs win so we have the opportunity to witness the longest cheer ever.
 
And now the world can see why Bron had to leave the shitty ass Cavs. Is anybody watching this? The cavs players have no heart, this was apparent years ago. Even if you are friends in the spirit of the game how are you letting a guy who apparently hurt you so bad come over to your bench and laugh and joke while you team is getting blown out?


No leaders on that team. A leader would have told bron to get the hell away and/or told his team mates they are not allowed to talk to him. Coach Scott? What the hell are you doing? You are also letting Bron take over the game.

Again, this game has cemented that although Bron did it the wrong way....he had very very good reasons to run like hell away from the Cavs. Embarrassing. And people were trying to crack on Derek Anderson for laughing with his team mate in a blow out. At least he didnt walk over to the other sideline and dance with Larry Fitz.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']And now the world can see why Bron had to leave the shitty ass Cavs. Is anybody watching this? The cavs players have no heart, this was apparent years ago. Even if you are friends in the spirit of the game how are you letting a guy who apparently hurt you so bad come over to your bench and laugh and joke while you team is getting blown out?


No leaders on that team. A leader would have told bron to get the hell away and/or told his team mates they are not allowed to talk to him. Coach Scott? What the hell are you doing? You are also letting Bron take over the game.

Again, this game has cemented that although Bron did it the wrong way....he had very very good reasons to run like hell away from the Cavs. Embarrassing.[/QUOTE]

Lebron WAS the leader. You can't expect a team to lose its star player one year and come out playing better ball the next. That's like saying New England should be playing good ball because they got rid of Tom Brady (hypothetical, of course).

And I'll be the first to admit it; Miami has loads of talent, and Cleveland has little.

I see no problem with a little friendly banter. We can't all hate each other all the time. That's just classless and immature.

Your acting like Cleveland should be dominating the Heat because of (or what you are saying they are lacking) "heart". Yes, that's what will solve their problem. If you just BELIEVE in yourself....

(Sorry to mock you. I really am. But everything you said reminds me of an AM radio spokesman talking about the opposing team. No hard feelings :) )
 
[quote name='DrMunkee']Lebron WAS the leader. You can't expect a team to lose its star player one year and come out playing better ball the next. That's like saying New England should be playing good ball because they got rid of Tom Brady (hypothetical, of course).

And I'll be the first to admit it; Miami has loads of talent, and Cleveland has little.

I see no problem with a little friendly banter. We can't all hate each other all the time. That's just classless and immature.

Your acting like Cleveland should be dominating the Heat because of (or what you are saying they are lacking) "heart". Yes, that's what will solve their problem. If you just BELIEVE in yourself....

(Sorry to mock you. I really am. But everything you said reminds me of an AM radio spokesman talking about the opposing team. No hard feelings :) )[/QUOTE]

That is a really bad example man. I am not going to bust your balls about it but still. Pats did well without Brady, without Moss, without Seymoure. The Pats will do well without anyone because they are that good. They are the one team known for constantly adjusting and adapting to a new situation.

The talent is not the question. Everyone knew the Cavs were going to lose. Its the fact that everyone wanted to crush Bron for abandoning the team while acting like the team had no problems of its own.

You are know getting some insight to Brons reasoning. You can now see the drop off in talent from Bron to the next best player. You can now understand why Bron might not have wanted to destroy his body having to play 40 min plus a game for the next 10 years and carry the entire organization on his back. Because its clear now that he was the entire team.

It was a nasty divorce yes, but now you can see that maybe his home life wasnt as rosey as the media made it out to be. That maybe she put up a good front while out in public but behind close doors she had just as many problems as he did.

The cavs look god awful and none of there players have stepped up in this big game. Maybe he just got tired of having to do everything. Yet they mock him for quitting on them...it looks like they never even tried for him.
 
I just cant believe that there hasnt been one hard foul on any of the heats players. No rallying against the heat. Nothing, they are simple letting him take over. The Cavs fans should be irate against the current cavs players. I fucking rate. Get in his face, knock someone down, show some emotion.

Stop booing Bron and boo your team that clearly doesnt care as much as the fans did. People want to talk about Bron stabbing the fans in the back......this to me is the ultimate betrayal.
 
Your superior sports knowledge obviously dwarfs my own (And that's not sarcasm).

I still think that you are being too harsh on the current Cleveland team. I'm sure they care, especially the old teammates of Lebron, but emotion can only take you so far, and so does pushing someone to the floor.

There was a hard foul in the 1st quarter if I remember correctly.
 
I'll repeat this again and again.. after the class of 03 all signed 3 year contracts as restricted free agents, no one wanted to commit to the Cavs because LeBron refused to commit to the team himself. So while I agree that you have a point of the talent drop off and having to shoulder the team, he could have committed to Cleveland long term and recruited talent in... IF he wanted to.

Remember when Kobe was being such a whiny bitch after Shaq left? In the end, talent flowed in and now LA is reaping the benefits of putting up with Bryant while he matured and realized it takes time to build championship teams and chemistry. LeBron and the heat will get theirs when they realize it's heart and selflessness that will carry them through to the end, but from everything I hear, it will be a few years before LeBron fully understands that the way he throws tantrums and mopes.

Tonights game? Would have been nice for the little team to get one over but we are way overmatched on talent and apparently when the going got tough, no one pulled it together for the Cavs. It's tough being a Cleveland fan but hey, I can't even let it get me down when I'm sitting in a crowded bar that lives on and dies on every play regardless of our teams record or roster.
 
[quote name='QiG']I'll repeat this again and again.. after the class of 03 all signed 3 year contracts as restricted free agents, no one wanted to commit to the Cavs because LeBron refused to commit to the team himself. So while I agree that you have a point of the talent drop off and having to shoulder the team, he could have committed to Cleveland long term and recruited talent in... IF he wanted to.

Remember when Kobe was being such a whiny bitch after Shaq left? In the end, talent flowed in and now LA is reaping the benefits of putting up with Bryant while he matured and realized it takes time to build championship teams and chemistry. LeBron and the heat will get theirs when they realize it's heart and selflessness that will carry them through to the end, but from everything I hear, it will be a few years before LeBron fully understands that the way he throws tantrums and mopes.

Tonights game? Would have been nice for the little team to get one over but we are way overmatched on talent and apparently when the going got tough, no one pulled it together for the Cavs. It's tough being a Cleveland fan but hey, I can't even let it get me down when I'm sitting in a crowded bar that lives on and dies on every play regardless of our teams record or roster.[/QUOTE]

A true leader is missing. Mo Williams was suppose to fill it but he constantly is outplayed by his backups (Gibson, Sessions). From a bigs perspective, the Cavs are still missing quality bigs; Varejo and Hickson are backups on any other team.

I don't know how you are comparing this situation with Lakers situation years ago. They are completely different. First, Kobe won championships prior; Lebron didn't. Kobe, even after Shaq, still had quality players around him. Add a draft (Bynum) and a steal trade that rarely happens (Gasol). They built around Kobe in 3 years. The Cavs, on the other hand, had issues at all positions minus Lebron and Jamison. They had 7 years to get solid players around him and they failed. They even let Carlos Boozer walk.

If the Cavs organization/fans would just get over Lebron leaving, they could get their team under control. Instead they are pursuing tampering on Miami. Pure ridiculous. Just move on and stop looking like a bad owner. What star wants to play for a team in which they will get bashed for leaving...
 
[quote name='lordopus99']A true leader is missing. Mo Williams was suppose to fill it but he constantly is outplayed by his backups (Gibson, Sessions). From a bigs perspective, the Cavs are still missing quality bigs; Varejo and Hickson are backups on any other team.

I don't know how you are comparing this situation with Lakers situation years ago. They are completely different. First, Kobe won championships prior; Lebron didn't. Kobe, even after Shaq, still had quality players around him. Add a draft (Bynum) and a steal trade that rarely happens (Gasol). They built around Kobe in 3 years. The Cavs, on the other hand, had issues at all positions minus Lebron and Jamison. They had 7 years to get solid players around him and they failed. They even let Carlos Boozer walk.

If the Cavs organization/fans would just get over Lebron leaving, they could get their team under control. Instead they are pursuing tampering on Miami. Pure ridiculous. Just move on and stop looking like a bad owner. What star wants to play for a team in which they will get bashed for leaving...[/QUOTE]

To be fair, Boozer said he would do one thing and did another. I agree though, the Cavs hadn't done too well surrounding Lebron with any talent.
 
Wow. Orlando still managed to beat the Pistons in Detroit even with Howard, Nelson Redick and Pietrus out with a virus.

Got 27 from Bass and 25 from Carter. Pistons are bad this year I know, but still figured they'd lose with two starters and two key reserves out.
 
re: Cavaliers

The two past seasons, Cavaliers won 60+ games and had home court advantage throughout the playoffs. 82 games per season don't lie.

They had plenty of talent to win a championship. They just severely underachieved in the playoffs, starting with #23.
 
LeBron quit in the playoffs last year, undeniably. He knew he was leaving and wasn't committed, he even faked that stupid elbow injury.

They had back to back 60 win seasons, and a Finals appearance against the weakest NBA champion in a long time. He had his chances there.
 
The Bulls game was pretty good with the exception of Chicago partly blowing a 14 point lead, and the refs calling some terrible fouls on Carlos Boozer and Joakim Noah while not calling Houston for a foul when they mugged Derrick Rose. Fortunately, Rose nailed a Jordan-esque 3 pointer as time expired in regulation and the Bulls won it in overtime.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']That is a really bad example man. I am not going to bust your balls about it but still. Pats did well without Brady, without Moss, without Seymoure. The Pats will do well without anyone because they are that good. They are the one team known for constantly adjusting and adapting to a new situation.

The talent is not the question. Everyone knew the Cavs were going to lose. Its the fact that everyone wanted to crush Bron for abandoning the team while acting like the team had no problems of its own.

You are know getting some insight to Brons reasoning. You can now see the drop off in talent from Bron to the next best player. You can now understand why Bron might not have wanted to destroy his body having to play 40 min plus a game for the next 10 years and carry the entire organization on his back. Because its clear now that he was the entire team.

It was a nasty divorce yes, but now you can see that maybe his home life wasnt as rosey as the media made it out to be. That maybe she put up a good front while out in public but behind close doors she had just as many problems as he did.

The cavs look god awful and none of there players have stepped up in this big game. Maybe he just got tired of having to do everything. Yet they mock him for quitting on them...it looks like they never even tried for him.[/QUOTE]

You have to look at it from the Cavs perspective. By only signing a three year contract, LeBron essentially held the organization hostage. They spent three years cannibalizing their franchise and resources by trading draft picks in order to give him a supporting cast asap. There was no patience with LeBron.

Imagine being engaged to the girl of your dreams. For fun let's say it is the year 2004 and you own 100 shares of Google stock which was trading at $100 per share in 2004. The girl is DEMANDING that you buy her a diamond ring now to get married. You know that if you hold onto Google as a long term investment, you will make 6 times your money back (it was trading at $600 per share a few weeks ago). But at this moment, you have no other cash available so what do you do? You gotta let go of whatever funds you have available now, even knowing that it will cost you in the future.

So you buy her the ring, get married, and after 6 months she says she is unhappy and gets a divorce. Now you're out a woman and 100 shares of Google which could have turned your $10,000 into $60,000 in a few years. Even worse, you can't even buy back the 100 shares of Google you once owned because now it is selling for much higher.

Now this isn't to say that every chip the Cavs had would have netted a payback of 6 times growth (like a young rookie developing into Michael Jordan after a few years of nurturing). But the Cavs didn't even get that chance to plan ahead. They weren't given the luxury of patience, to at least think ahead for the future. They had to work with everything they had to pull off a championship in 3 years. Do you think that Larry Hughes and Antawn Jamison would've been Cavs if it weren't for the LeBron situation? I don't think they would have invested in those 2 players if they weren't given such a short time table to get anyone with talent on the team.

Amazingly they built a team that complemented LeBron in every way possible. Think about it. Those pieces they took + LeBron James equaled two back to back 60 win seasons. Except now, all they have is pieces and no LeBron. You say look at the team now. Except the team now was SPECIFICALLY created to complement LeBron. Of course it is easy to pick apart the Cavs now saying they suck without LeBron. The team was never built in the first place to function without him. It's like preparing an ice cream sundae by buying hot fudge, cherries, whipped cream, and your mom coming home saying, "Hey. I couldn't get the ice cream. Here's an orange instead." Then you have to sit there watching her eat and listen to her complain about how her "orange sundae" with hot fudge tastes like shit.
 
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Spurs jsut had to be blowing out the Hornets...

Duncan isn't getting any play time!

My fantasy basketball week is on the line darn it!

At least Amar'e and Stuckey are having beastly games.
 
[quote name='lordopus99']NBA is planning to buyout the shares for the New Orleans Hornets.[/QUOTE]

Would be great if they moved them out here to Anaheim.

The battle for Los Angeles finished nicely. Both teams shot horribly, around 40%, but the 4th was pretty exciting. The clippers failed to make plays, and the lakers capitalized. Artest played great D, Kobe got some nice shots, and Fisher hit a game winning layup as time expired.
 
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