2012 Election Thread

Yeah, go through a managed bankruptcy and get private loans at the very same time that lending banks were totally tied up in investment banks...

Hey dickface, about research money for stem cells at them there commie universities?
 
Romney and co just keeps casting Obamas foreign policy as weak.
Its only weak if you're on the left. Not like Romney can criticize Obama for Assassinating Samir Khan or al-Awlaki. Not like Mittens would dare say a thing about upscaling the use of drones. (4 times more than Bush ever did) Not like Romney can criticize Obama for pulling our troops out of Iraq and replacing them with an army of private contractors like Dyncorp or whateverthefuck Blackwater is calling themselves now (acedmi fyi) Not like he can criticize Obama for turning a blind eye on Bahrain and propping up our "ally" The cartel of Saudi sheiks

Hey , remember when we use to have two parties?
 
nice that you could get along but tell us, did any of the (D)'s in your senate and house in MA publicly promise to make you a failure in 4 years?
 
Hi Trapp, or whatever the fuck your name is, how about taking that swing bitch?

Oh I was just joshin about that, but don't get any $$$$er on my kid mmkay?
 
[quote name='nasum']nice that you could get along but tell us, did any of the (D)'s in your senate and house in MA publicly promise to make you a failure in 4 years?[/QUOTE]
Nah, but they sure as shit loved to make fun of his hair, so it's the same thing really.

[quote name='nasum']Hi Trapp, or whatever the fuck your name is, how about taking that swing bitch?

Oh I was just joshin about that, but don't get any $$$$er on my kid mmkay?[/QUOTE]
LOLZ...I had my eye on that shithead too.

edit: Brian Williams just called this and etch-a-sketch moment. Ice Burn

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[quote name='dohdough']And what Romney recommended wouldn't have worked because the markets were frozen, but hey, let's not let reality get the way.[/QUOTE]
Loan guarantees are exactly the thing that unfreezes the credit markets. You're talking nonsense.
 
Yeah, we should take this seriously when there's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Superman mugs on the table, a chimpanzee presidential seal logo, and a candidate in jeans...
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Yeah, we should take this seriously when there's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Superman mugs on the table, a chimpanzee presidential seal logo, and a candidate in jeans...[/QUOTE]

Well they are not as bad as you think. Johnson was a governor at least.

That is the seal of their show....really nothing to do with the debate.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']Loan guarantees are exactly the thing that unfreezes the credit markets. You're talking nonsense.[/QUOTE]
Loan guarantees...you mean kinda like the bailouts?:roll:

The only reason why it sounds like nonsense to you is because you have no idea what you're talking about.
 
[quote name='nasum']which one was the etch-a-sketch moment? Sorry, switched over to baseball, still 7-0. No WS rematch.[/QUOTE]
Williams meant that in regards to Romney's performance tonight because he was flip flopping like he was in a pancake making contest especially in comparison to the rest of his campaign.
 
[quote name='cancerman1120']Well they are not as bad as you think. Johnson was a governor at least.

That is the seal of their show....really nothing to do with the debate.[/QUOTE]

Look, I'm all for the message being the main focus but at a certain point professionalism is more important. I have a fun, cheeky M&Ms tie that I wear to "fun" events. Do I wear that tie when I walk into court? Absolutely not, I want my client to take me seriously, I want the judge to take me seriously, and most importantly I want the county prosecutor to take me seriously. And I'm just working for a legal clinic defending indigent clients, not someone asking an entire country to endorse me for the highest and singularly most powerful position in the country...
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Look, I'm all for the message being the main focus but at a certain point professionalism is more important. I have a fun, cheeky M&Ms tie that I wear to "fun" events. Do I wear that tie when I walk into court? Absolutely not, I want my client to take me seriously, I want the judge to take me seriously, and most importantly I want the county prosecutor to take me seriously. And I'm just working for a legal clinic defending indigent clients, not someone asking an entire country to endorse me for the highest and singularly most powerful position in the country...[/QUOTE]

Fair enough.
 
We did guarantee loans and debt during the crisis (Temporary Liquidity program) , the automotive industry benefited from it just like the banks did ,and companies like GE (which had no business doing that)
In fact this is the part Romneys is always talking about in terms of "I'm glad they listened to me" They sure the fuck didnt get rid of the planes and executive dining rooms tho lol . Like I said ,GE was eating from both ends of the hoagie and made a boatload from FDIC guaranteed debt. So yes guaranteeing loans does unfreeze credit(You know ,because that theory has clearly trickled down to Ryans hometown of Scranton where banks wont lend the state government any more money) but nobody was going to LEND without TARP (Not unless they could get a GM for pennies to the dollar) One mans relief is another mans loophole
 
Anybody else get the impression that Obama is thinking when he talks and that Romney is just reciting answers?
 
[quote name='nasum']Anybody else get the impression that Obama is thinking when he talks and that Romney is just reciting answers?[/QUOTE]
He actually gets criticism from the right for this. That is to say, always pausing with lots of uhhs and other filler to cover that he might actually be considering something coming out of his mouth.
 
[quote name='nasum']Anybody else get the impression that Obama is thinking when he talks and that Romney is just reciting answers?[/QUOTE]
Kinda like memorizing the answer to a math problem versus being able to actually work and solve the problem. But I think it's Romney's handlers to be honest, I think at this point it's less him running his campaign and more the party. They've invested a lot in him, and they know he isn't exactly the candidate they were hoping for, so they're still trying to "fix" him so to speak.
 
I was just about to post that. Maybe I was a little fast to use the "c-word" for Palin, Coulter is way worse.
 
Btw, this has to be my favorite moment of that debate.

"Gov. Romney, I'm glad you recognize al-Qaeda is a threat, because a few months ago when you were asked what is the biggest geopolitical group facing America, you said Russia — not al-Qaeda. And the 1980's are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back — because the Cold War has been over for 20 years. But Governor, when it comes to our foreign policy, you seem to want to import the foreign policies of the 1980's, just like the social policy of the 1950's, and the economic policies of the 1920's.
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[quote name='Clak']I was just about to post that. Maybe I was a little fast to use the "c-word" for Palin, Coulter is way worse.[/QUOTE]

Not sure calling Coulter a cunt is going to really do a lot to bolster distaste that she called the President a "retard."
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']He actually gets criticism from the right for this. That is to say, always pausing with lots of uhhs and other filler to cover that he might actually be considering something coming out of his mouth.[/QUOTE]

That's because the people can't think either, so they want somebody who just sounds great. It doesn't matter what he's saying, if he can say it well and he sounds confident, the public eats it up. Among the many reasons people didn't like Bush, a big one was his public speaking. 90% of the people that bitched about it didn't even know what he was saying, they just know that he wasn't saying it well.

I think the only reason Obama isn't more worried is that he knows the election is in the bag. If it was a much closer race, he'd probably be just regurgitating answers as well.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Not sure calling Coulter a cunt is going to really do a lot to bolster distaste that she called the President a "retard."[/QUOTE]
Meh, past the point of caring to be honest. Besides, Obama obviously isn't mentally retarded, Coulter's status...yeah.
 
[quote name='Access_Denied']That's because the people can't think either, so they want somebody who just sounds great. It doesn't matter what he's saying, if he can say it well and he sounds confident, the public eats it up. Among the many reasons people didn't like Bush, a big one was his public speaking. 90% of the people that bitched about it didn't even know what he was saying, they just know that he wasn't saying it well.

I think the only reason Obama isn't more worried is that he knows the election is in the bag. If it was a much closer race, he'd probably be just regurgitating answers as well.[/QUOTE]
And at that point we might as well decide the election with a best out of 3 match of Street Fighter. Of course then everyone would expect Obama to pick Balrog...
 
[quote name='Clak']Meh, past the point of caring to be honest. Besides, Obama obviously isn't mentally retarded, Coulter's status...yeah.[/QUOTE]

It's never good for people to lower themselves to the level of people tossing offensive insults etc.

That's why people like Bob can say "both sides do it."

Always better to take the high ground.
 
He can say it all he wants, doesn't make it the same or equal in any way. Calling a stupid pundit a "c-word" isn't the same as calling the sitting president a retard. I'd have to stop calling people like Limbaugh dumbasses as well, and that isn't happening.
 
On the issue of foreign aid, can some of the regulars weigh in on us cutting this totally out at least until we are out of debt. I am also in favor of huge military cuts as well. Neither candidate seems even interested in ending foreign aid, even to countries who "hate" us. What do these bribes actually gain us?


Ann Coulter, sigh, please stop trying to help....
 
[quote name='Clak']He can say it all he wants, doesn't make it the same or equal in any way. Calling a stupid pundit a "c-word" isn't the same as calling the sitting president a retard. I'd have to stop calling people like Limbaugh dumbasses as well, and that isn't happening.[/QUOTE]
Well, yes and no. Cunt is a loaded term in the US, so it isn't exactly the same as dumbass. It's closer to the difference between calling someone a n****r and wonderbread. If we were in the UK, it'd be different, but since we're not...

[quote name='egofed']On the issue of foreign aid, can some of the regulars weigh in on us cutting this totally out at least until we are out of debt. I am also in favor of huge military cuts as well. Neither candidate seems even interested in ending foreign aid, even to countries who "hate" us. What do these bribes actually gain us?[/QUOTE]
Social, political, and economic influence? C'mon, this is a fucking dumb question.

Ann Coulter, sigh, please stop trying to help....
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What the hell makes you think she's trying to help? She's a bigger charlatan than how dafoomie categorizes Jackson and Sharpton put together.
 
[quote name='Clak']Calling a stupid pundit a "c-word" isn't the same as calling the sitting president a retard.[/QUOTE]

You're right - one's historically considered a misogynistic term while the other isn't.
 
[quote name='dohdough']Well, yes and no. Cunt is a loaded term in the US, so it isn't exactly the same as dumbass. It's closer to the difference between calling someone a n****r and wonderbread. If we were in the UK, it'd be different, but since we're not...


Social, political, and economic influence? C'mon, this is a fucking dumb question.

What the hell makes you think she's trying to help? She's a bigger charlatan than how dafoomie categorizes Jackson and Sharpton put together.[/QUOTE]
No I mean that if I were to let bob have his way in the "both sides do it" war I'd have to stop insulting pundits entirely, and that isn't happening.
 
[quote name='Clak']He can say it all he wants, doesn't make it the same or equal in any way. Calling a stupid pundit a "c-word" isn't the same as calling the sitting president a retard. I'd have to stop calling people like Limbaugh dumbasses as well, and that isn't happening.[/QUOTE]

It's actually worse for the former to happen. For a lot of reasons.
 
[quote name='dohdough']Tell us more about how history doesn't matter. I'm dying to hear it.[/QUOTE]

ITT: We ignore the words and actions of individuals because those actions are 20 years old, but we hold individuals accountable for what their ancestors may or may not have ever even been involved with - willingly or otherwise.
 
[quote name='UncleBob']ITT: We ignore the words and actions of individuals because those actions are 20 years old, but we hold individuals accountable for what their ancestors may or may not have ever even been involved with - willingly or otherwise.[/QUOTE]
The effects of Jim Crow are a little different from the effects of the words in a eulogy. But thanks, once again, for the false equivalence. And by thanks, I mean GTFO. HTH
 
Again I dont know exactly who Coulter thinks she's fooling.. People of the left take note : She's not our problem . Let the intellectual right deal with that dummy. Gives me delicious schadenfreude to be able to say to a George Will or Peggy Noonan "That's one of your people.
In fact , thats one of your best selling author, high profile people George." And then George Will spontaneously combusts.
 
[quote name='Clak']No I mean that if I were to let bob have his way in the "both sides do it" war I'd have to stop insulting pundits entirely, and that isn't happening.[/QUOTE]

Fair enough.

But that's why political discourse in this country, and in this forum, is pretty much a waste of time.

People on both sides would rather just insult each other and see who can scream the loudest rather than having any type of meaningful, intellectual debate.
 
[quote name='dohdough']The effects of Jim Crow are a little different from the effects of the words in a eulogy. But thanks, once again, for the false equivalence. And by thanks, I mean GTFO. HTH[/QUOTE]

Wow, really?

Is that just like how holding one person accountable for their own actions is a little different than holding entire groups of people accountable for the actions of others?
 
[quote name='UncleBob']Wow, really?

Is that just like how holding one person accountable for their own actions is a little different than holding entire groups of people accountable for the actions of others?[/QUOTE]
You're absolutely right. Black people shouldn't have to pay the price for white people that were and are racist. Let's make whitey do all the leg work for fixing all the institutions that they manipulated in their own favor to exclude non-whites by being more inclusive now. You just made a great argument for stronger affirmative action measures and reparations. Kudos! I knew you had it in you!

See...two can play this game.:booty:
 
[quote name='dohdough']Let's make whitey do all the leg work for fixing all the institutions that they manipulated in their own favor to exclude non-whites by being more inclusive now.[/QUOTE]

So... are you going to resurrect the dead slave masters or are you going to make their descendants pay the piper?

I.e.: Sins of the Father.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Fair enough.

But that's why political discourse in this country, and in this forum, is pretty much a waste of time.

People on both sides would rather just insult each other and see who can scream the loudest rather than having any type of meaningful, intellectual debate.[/QUOTE]
And I'd like to have a real debate, but that's impossible when one side starts from a base of pants on head, shitting yourself stupidity.
 
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