3 Select Vita games for $40 + tax Walmart.com

one (or more) of the games i'm ordering must have gone out of stock, supposedly. makes no sense though; i've tried making the order, and when i go back to choose the games they're all still there. wal mart blows.
 
[quote name='Ag_SurfR']gravity rush and mlb are back. i'm trying to check out but for some reason it won't let me :([/QUOTE]

Maybe refresh your browser? I'm not seeing ut
 
[quote name='6er']Maybe refresh your browser? I'm not seeing ut[/QUOTE]

they were there, i couldn't check out, i went back to the page where you can pick your games (multiple times) and they were still there.

it wasn't until i just gave up then check again several minutes later that they were gone. this thing is such a pain. maybe i'll just wait until black friday or something for there to be stores with better inventory that have a sale similar to this one.
 
[quote name='Ag_SurfR']they were there, i couldn't check out, i went back to the page where you can pick your games (multiple times) and they were still there.

it wasn't until i just gave up then check again several minutes later that they were gone. this thing is such a pain. maybe i'll just wait until black friday or something for there to be stores with better inventory that have a sale similar to this one.[/QUOTE]

same thing happened to me yesterday. walmart.com sucks.
 
Let's be fair though, he's (probably) offering a $10 Witcher for a $13.33 Gravity Rush, and based on the wording he might not even care if the GR is opened.

Rarity differences aside, doesn't really seem like all that much disparity to me.
 
[quote name='Midboss']Let's be fair though, he's (probably) offering a $10 Witcher for a $13.33 Gravity Rush, and based on the wording he might not even care if the GR is opened.

Rarity differences aside, doesn't really seem like all that much disparity to me.[/QUOTE]

Just because we're paying $13.33 for Gravity Rush doesn't mean it's worth $13.33 in a trade.
 
[quote name='gettinmoney662']Just because we're paying $13.33 for Gravity Rush doesn't mean it's worth $13.33 in a trade.[/QUOTE]

what i love more is when someone wants to do a trade with you but vaules your games on sale prices but not theirs

example

I give you my 1 game for your 3 games

since my game cost 40 bucks (though it was on sale at many places for 10 or less)
you have to give me

x (since it was on sale at best buy at 5) xx (since it was on sale at target for 10) and xxx (since it was on sale at kmart for 5)
 
[quote name='slidecage']what i love more is when someone wants to do a trade with you but vaules your games on sale prices but not theirs

example

I give you my 1 game for your 3 games

since my game cost 40 bucks (though it was on sale at many places for 10 or less)
you have to give me

x (since it was on sale at best buy at 5) xx (since it was on sale at target for 10) and xxx (since it was on sale at kmart for 5)[/QUOTE]

Welcome to the game: ENTITLEMENT

When I was getting rid of PS+ cards you should have read some of the lowball offers.
 
[quote name='gettinmoney662']Just because we're paying $13.33 for Gravity Rush doesn't mean it's worth $13.33 in a trade.[/QUOTE]

MSRP for both is $40, and Gamestop TIV is also within 2 dollars. The Best Buy Trade in for Witcher did tank because they were the ones selling it for $10, but other than that single way to trade it in (and it's not the only option), both games are not that far off from each other. If someone doesn't want to make the trade, that's fine, I just don't see why so many of you seemed to jump on that post based on a supposed worth difference.
 
[quote name='Midboss']MSRP for both is $40, and Gamestop TIV is also within 2 dollars. The Best Buy Trade in for Witcher did tank because they were the ones selling it for $10, but other than that single way to trade it in (and it's not the only option), both games are not that far off from each other. If someone doesn't want to make the trade, that's fine, I just don't see why so many of you seemed to jump on that post based on a supposed worth difference.[/QUOTE]

Nobody in their right mind would make that trade. Besides this deal, GR hasn't been under MSRP new anywhere, ever. Witcher is more common and has actually dropped to around 20-30 bucks.
 
[quote name='RealDeals']Nobody in their right mind would make that trade. Besides this deal, GR hasn't been under MSRP new anywhere, ever. Witcher is more common and has actually dropped to around 20-30 bucks.[/QUOTE]

It's been a part of some B2G1 sales, which would also put it at a sub $30 price tag, so I wouldn't say its never been under MSRP.

That's not even including creative deal hunting. I got a copy of GR for a net cost of $13.50 back in July, brand new and from Best Buy.

Anyway, there might be people out there who couldn't find a local copy of the witcher for $10, and may have been able to pick up on this deal for a cheap Gravity Rush. I mean, if I wanted a copy of the witcher, and had a copy of GR, this doesn't sound all that bad. Sure I could TRY to sell it for $35 new, and use that $35 to buy a new copy of the witcher from amazon for $33 after taxes. Forget about that if GR was opened though.

So, unless you're trying to tell me that only Witcher's sale prices should be considered and never GR's, I'll just have to disagree. I mean, if you are trying to tell me that, I'll still disagree, just with a bit more amusement on my side.
 
What I'm trying to tell you is quantity is a factor here. Witcher has seen systemic price drops. To my knowledge, GR has not. (unless it was one of those games that dropped from $50 to $40 MSRP last month as part of the list of Sony games?) Absolutely, there have been ways to get it cheaper, but not every CAG is that resourceful/wants to hassle with, I presume what 'creative deal-hunting' entailed for you getting that cheap GR, flips. As far as the TiV goes, Bestbuy has tanked for Witcher and understandably so, but look at Amazon's from being jammed with flippers. (LMAO at a quarter) Only place it's close is GS. The only scenario I see that trade, like you said, is if someone REALLY wanted Witcher and had multiple GRs from this deal.
 
[quote name='aznhero913']Anyone wanna trade GR, Uncharted, or resistance for my unopened copy of brink?[/QUOTE]

you mean the $5 one from Best Buy?
 
[quote name='RealDeals']What I'm trying to tell you is quantity is a factor here. Witcher has seen systemic price drops. To my knowledge, GR has not. (unless it was one of those games that dropped from $50 to $40 MSRP last month as part of the list of Sony games?) Absolutely, there have been ways to get it cheaper, but not every CAG is that resourceful/wants to hassle with, I presume what 'creative deal-hunting' entailed for you getting that cheap GR, flips. As far as the TiV goes, Bestbuy has tanked for Witcher and understandably so, but look at Amazon's from being jammed with flippers. (LMAO at a quarter) Only place it's close is GS. The only scenario I see that trade, like you said, is if someone REALLY wanted Witcher and had multiple GRs from this deal.[/QUOTE]


Well, thanks for letting me know I can have a laugh at this! I actually thought I was having a decent back and forth with someone, up until you said the MSRP was $50 at any point.

Bravo up until that point though, you were vague enough to keep it going. Just remember to keep it vague like that instead of being very obviously wrong the next time you troll.
 
[quote name='Midboss']Well, thanks for letting me know I can have a laugh at this! I actually thought I was having a decent back and forth with someone, up until you said the MSRP was $50 at any point.

Bravo up until that point though, you were vague enough to keep it going. Just remember to keep it vague like that instead of being very obviously wrong the next time you troll.[/QUOTE]

Midboss, please learn how to effectively argue. The original poster clearly said that he didn't know if it was one of the games (like Uncharted) that started with a $50 price point. To criticize him on a point that he wasn't even sure about, ironically, makes you the troll.

[quote name='Midboss']Let's be fair though, he's (probably) offering a $10 Witcher for a $13.33 Gravity Rush, and based on the wording he might not even care if the GR is opened.

Rarity differences aside, doesn't really seem like all that much disparity to me.[/QUOTE]

The one aspect that you put "aside," rarity, is a vital component regarding this fairness of a trade. It was much easier to obtain the Witcher 2 at the $10 price point then it was to obtain GR for the 3 for $40 deal. When the Walmart deal went live, the "best" games (Resistance, Uncharted, and GR) went OSS within a few hours, if not less than hour. Witcher 2 remained plentiful on the shelves within the first week of the coupon coming out; the coupon that wasn't available to just @Gamer members, but all Reward Zone Members.

GR, as others have pointed out, has never seen a price decrease. The only way to get it at a cheaper price in any capacity, was to purchase it via a B2G1 free. However, this required buying two games at regular price - obviously a big difference when compared to the easiness of acquiring Witcher 2 at $10.

So here's the argument in the nutshell. I argue that rarity and "circumstances to obtain," make a vast difference in the value of the game despite the fact that they may be a relatively close "out of pocket" value at the end. However, there's already great contention in taking the $40 Walmart price tag and dividing by 3 and giving equal value to each copy (what if you got Modnation or Reality Fighters with GR). Remember, Witcher 2 required no additional purchases and truly was $10.

You, however, argue that the "out of pocket" value is all that counts. This view, in my opinion, undermines all the examples I have aforementioned. And to me, it's difficult to argue that those examples can't have some merit in determining the true value of a game and thus, the fairness of a trade.
 
[quote name='token2k6']you mean the $5 one from Best Buy?[/QUOTE]

LOL, no bro...Its $20 MSRP now

See, you'd come out ahead. You paid 13.33 for your games and mine is valued at $20.

Isnt math fun?
 
[quote name='aznhero913']LOL, no bro...Its $20 MSRP now

See, you'd come out ahead. You paid 13.33 for your games and mine is valued at $20.

Isnt math fun?[/QUOTE]

What he meant was Brink is worth 5$
 
[quote name='bjstucker']What he meant was Brink is worth 5$[/QUOTE]

Bro, I know... I was trying to inject some humor into this thread.

WTF is wrong w/ my fellow CAG's great sense of humor this morning?
 
[quote name='aznhero913']Bro, I know... I was trying to inject some humor into this thread.

WTF is wrong w/ my fellow CAG's great sense of humor this morning?[/QUOTE]

yeah I laughed pretty hard from it myself, then laughed a little more when people thought you were serious :/
 
[quote name='anarchyoblivion']Midboss, please learn how to effectively argue. The original poster clearly said that he didn't know if it was one of the games (like Uncharted) that started with a $50 price point. To criticize him on a point that he wasn't even sure about, ironically, makes you the troll.



The one aspect that you put "aside," rarity, is a vital component regarding this fairness of a trade. It was much easier to obtain the Witcher 2 at the $10 price point then it was to obtain GR for the 3 for $40 deal. When the Walmart deal went live, the "best" games (Resistance, Uncharted, and GR) went OSS within a few hours, if not less than hour. Witcher 2 remained plentiful on the shelves within the first week of the coupon coming out; the coupon that wasn't available to just @Gamer members, but all Reward Zone Members.

GR, as others have pointed out, has never seen a price decrease. The only way to get it at a cheaper price in any capacity, was to purchase it via a B2G1 free. However, this required buying two games at regular price - obviously a big difference when compared to the easiness of acquiring Witcher 2 at $10.

So here's the argument in the nutshell. I argue that rarity and "circumstances to obtain," make a vast difference in the value of the game despite the fact that they may be a relatively close "out of pocket" value at the end. However, there's already great contention in taking the $40 Walmart price tag and dividing by 3 and giving equal value to each copy (what if you got Modnation or Reality Fighters with GR). Remember, Witcher 2 required no additional purchases and truly was $10.

You, however, argue that the "out of pocket" value is all that counts. This view, in my opinion, undermines all the examples I have aforementioned. And to me, it's difficult to argue that those examples can't have some merit in determining the true value of a game and thus, the fairness of a trade.[/QUOTE]

Alright, the fun continues!

I will say, I may have read too much into the way he worded the MSRP. I thought he was saying that it was in fact $50 MSRP, and that it still would have been unless it dropped without him realizing it (it was 4am, I hope you'll cut me a little slack on the way I read it). BUT, his not knowing aside, the fact that MSRP for the Witcher has dropped to $40 and GR has not dropped and instead stayed at $40, does not affect my original point that they have the same MSRP right now.

And as you said, I did mention rarity before as well. By no means am I saying that this deal appeals to me, or that it should appeal to most people. My point was that, as of right now, there are many ways to see that these two games have a very comparable dollar value. There was no reason to jump on that one guy for posting the trade and hoping on an off chance that someone out there had snagged an extra copy of GR, and would want a copy of the Witcher. Can you honestly tell me of a better way to go from having that copy of GR to having a copy of the Witcher that I may have missed?

edit - And never did I say that out of pocket was "all that counts". I was using that as a personal experience of how I got GR cheaply as an example that it has in fact been available prior at a cheaper price, as part of a bundle, which exactly mirrors this instance of getting GR as part of a bundle for cheap. It did involve a small amount of flipping, one copy of MK for the vita from GS for $10 for $27 in BB credit as a trade in. Excluding that, GR was still $17.50 from stacking other deals.
 
[quote name='aznhero913']Anyone wanna trade GR, Uncharted, or resistance for my unopened copy of brink?[/QUOTE]

Will if be ok if a game is already open for your sealed Brink?

You drive a hard bargain.
 
[quote name='Midboss']Alright, the fun continues!

I will say, I may have read too much into the way he worded the MSRP. I thought he was saying that it was in fact $50 MSRP, and that it still would have been unless it dropped without him realizing it (it was 4am, I hope you'll cut me a little slack on the way I read it). BUT, his not knowing aside, the fact that MSRP for the Witcher has dropped to $40 and GR has not dropped and instead stayed at $40, does not affect my original point that they have the same MSRP right now.

And as you said, I did mention rarity before as well. By no means am I saying that this deal appeals to me, or that it should appeal to most people. My point was that, as of right now, there are many ways to see that these two games have a very comparable dollar value. There was no reason to jump on that one guy for posting the trade and hoping on an off chance that someone out there had snagged an extra copy of GR, and would want a copy of the Witcher. Can you honestly tell me of a better way to go from having that copy of GR to having a copy of the Witcher that I may have missed?

edit - And never did I say that out of pocket was "all that counts". I was using that as a personal experience of how I got GR cheaply as an example that it has in fact been available prior at a cheaper price, as part of a bundle, which exactly mirrors this instance of getting GR as part of a bundle for cheap. It did involve a small amount of flipping, one copy of MK for the vita from GS for $10 for $27 in BB credit as a trade in. Excluding that, GR was still $17.50 from stacking other deals.[/QUOTE]

No, you don't get slack because you said:
Well, thanks for letting me know I can have a laugh at this! I actually thought I was having a decent back and forth with someone, up until you said the MSRP was $50 at any point.

Bravo up until that point though, you were vague enough to keep it going. Just remember to keep it vague like that instead of being very obviously wrong the next time you troll.
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If you had not been such a doucheCAG about it, then sure, you probably would get some slack. Anyways, this leads me to believe you have shitty reading comprehension. If you have shitty reading comprehension, it's going to be hard to take your arguments seriously.

Furthermore, GR has almost never been on sale (I've been wanting this game since launch so I've kept my eyes open), and this bundle you claim to have got seems to be very unique to your situation.

Sure, if someone wants a copy of The Witcher 2 and doesn't want their copy of Gravity Rush and doesn't care about anything else, then fine, it's a great deal, no one would argue that. However, most people would probably agree that it'll likely be easier to find The Witcher for cheap than Gravity Rush now and in the near future.
 
[quote name='Bumslie']Will if be ok if a game is already open for your sealed Brink?

You drive a hard bargain.[/QUOTE]

LOL,

No way man. You gotta throw in some cash since yours isn't sealed!!
 
[quote name='aznhero913']LOL,

No way man. You gotta throw in some cash since yours isn't sealed!![/QUOTE]

Nah, get him to throw in a battlefield premium PS3
 
[quote name='aznhero913']LOL,

No way man. You gotta throw in some cash since yours isn't sealed!![/QUOTE]

Even better just found a second order with all 3 games sealed. Looks like I'm getting Brink sealed.
 
[quote name='gettinmoney662']No, you don't get slack because you said:


If you had not been such a doucheCAG about it, then sure, you probably would get some slack. Anyways, this leads me to believe you have shitty reading comprehension. If you have shitty reading comprehension, it's going to be hard to take your arguments seriously.

Furthermore, GR has almost never been on sale (I've been wanting this game since launch so I've kept my eyes open), and this bundle you claim to have got seems to be very unique to your situation.

Sure, if someone wants a copy of The Witcher 2 and doesn't want their copy of Gravity Rush and doesn't care about anything else, then fine, it's a great deal, no one would argue that. However, most people would probably agree that it'll likely be easier to find The Witcher for cheap than Gravity Rush now and in the near future.[/QUOTE]

The specific deal was when BB had a B2G1 where the online system broke and they were doing a B2G2 instead, paired with the bonus $10 cert for doing an in store pickup of greater than $50. 4 $40 games for a net cost of $70.

I don't consider possible future sales to be a valid argument though. Why not just assume every game will eventually be available for $10 new if you wait long enough?

Really though, can none of you say that with the way that he worded it, that it's impossible to take from it that he was implying that GR had an MSRP of $50?

And you guys are right, I probably should curb some of the things I say. I'm sorry if you felt I was attacking any of you personally, I just really enjoy using logic and going back and forth in internet debates, and can get a little to into it. It doesn't excuse that particular post, I know. I'm certainly not perfect, and am willing to apologize when I do go overboard.

That being said though, I do still hold firm in my view that you guys that chose to rag on that guy are in the wrong. I just need to make sure I don't go to that level myself.
 
[quote name='Midboss']The specific deal was when BB had a B2G1 where the online system broke and they were doing a B2G2 instead, paired with the bonus $10 cert for doing an in store pickup of greater than $50. 4 $40 games for a net cost of $70.

I don't consider possible future sales to be a valid argument though. Why not just assume every game will eventually be available for $10 new if you wait long enough?

Really though, can none of you say that with the way that he worded it, that it's impossible to take form it that he was implying that GR had an MSRP of $50?

And you guys are right, I probably should curb some of the things I say. I'm sorry if you felt I was attacking any of you personally, I just really enjoy using logic and going back and forth in internet debates, and can get a little to into it. It doesn't excuse that particular post, I know. I'm certainly not perfect, and am willing to apologize when I do go overboard.

That being said though, I do still hold firm in my view that you guys that chose to rag on that guy are in the wrong. I just need to make sure I don't go to that level myself.[/QUOTE]

YES, because I put it in parentheses and ended it with a question mark. :roll:

EDIT: Also prefaced it with "To my knowledge" :whistle2:#
 
[quote name='RealDeals']YES, because I put it in parentheses and ended it with a question mark, jackwagon.[/QUOTE]

Eh, I did say I was sorry for my rudeness, up to you if you want to carry that hatchet instead of burying it.

Also, I had to look up what jackwagon meant. I like it.

edit - And I'm willing to admit I'm a much worse reader when I'm sleepy!
 
[quote name='anarchyoblivion']The $10 one from Bestbuy?[/QUOTE]

[quote name='riotheart']My first thought too...[/QUOTE]

[quote name='TrumpetDan']Hahaha, my first thought too.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='Midboss']That being said though, I do still hold firm in my view that you guys that chose to rag on that guy are in the wrong. I just need to make sure I don't go to that level myself.[/QUOTE]

Re-read our posts.

You're making assumptions and see it as ragging on someone, but I don't see any ridicule or maliciousness there. If it's my "Hahaha" that you're bothered by, I had found it funny that the minds of myself and fellow CAGs immediately recalled Witcher 2 at $10.

Speaking for myself, my first thought literally was that Witcher 2 could be had for $10 very recently.

Anyways, that's the fun of the internet for you. Misinterpretation.
 
[quote name='Midboss']Eh, I did say I was sorry for my rudeness, up to you if you want to carry that hatchet instead of burying it.

Also, I had to look up what jackwagon meant. I like it.

edit - And I'm willing to admit I'm a much worse reader when I'm sleepy![/QUOTE]

All good buddy. Welcome to CAG! :D

Back on topic, my second order (Resistance, Unit 13, and Wipeout) arrived in-store before my first (Uncharted, Hot Shots Golf, and Modnation Racers). Uncharted seems to have just arrived to my store, but the other two are still on their way.
 
[quote name='Midboss']The specific deal was when BB had a B2G1 where the online system broke and they were doing a B2G2 instead, paired with the bonus $10 cert for doing an in store pickup of greater than $50. 4 $40 games for a net cost of $70.

I don't consider possible future sales to be a valid argument though. Why not just assume every game will eventually be available for $10 new if you wait long enough?

Really though, can none of you say that with the way that he worded it, that it's impossible to take from it that he was implying that GR had an MSRP of $50?

And you guys are right, I probably should curb some of the things I say. I'm sorry if you felt I was attacking any of you personally, I just really enjoy using logic and going back and forth in internet debates, and can get a little to into it. It doesn't excuse that particular post, I know. I'm certainly not perfect, and am willing to apologize when I do go overboard.

That being said though, I do still hold firm in my view that you guys that chose to rag on that guy are in the wrong. I just need to make sure I don't go to that level myself.[/QUOTE]

So you got GR for cheap because of a glitch and you deducted a gift card from your current purchase cost? Gotcha.

But okay, we don't need to use potential future sales. On Amazon right now, Witcher 2 is $30, Gravity Rush is $40.
 
[quote name='gettinmoney662']So you got GR for cheap because of a glitch and you deducted a gift card from your current purchase cost? Gotcha.

But okay, we don't need to use potential future sales. On Amazon right now, Witcher 2 is $30, Gravity Rush is $40.[/QUOTE]

Yup, the glitch. And yes, I do consider certificates and cards given on purchase as part of that current purchases sale price, especially at BB where its been historically easy to use low amount credits pretty easily. I think in that case, I used the cert to pick up KoA. I consider that I got it for the actual sale price of $10 because, in my head, I considered that cert to be a discount from the purchase I got it from. I guess you could say I still payed $20 each for those games, and got KoA for free. Either way, it maths out the same.

And I went over current selling prices in a previous post - maybe selling GR for 35, and getting Witcher specifically from Amazon for 33ish after taxes. I feel like that is a pretty realistic estimation when you take all factors into consideration. If you're able to regularly sell games for their full msrp, including any fees involving ebay or paypal, or live in a state where sales tax isn't a factor, then more power to you.
 
[quote name='Midboss']Yup, the glitch. And yes, I do consider certificates and cards given on purchase as part of that current purchases sale price, especially at BB where its been historically easy to use low amount credits pretty easily. I think in that case, I used the cert to pick up KoA. I consider that I got it for the actual sale price of $10 because, in my head, I considered that cert to be a discount from the purchase I got it from. I guess you could say I still payed $20 each for those games, and got KoA for free. Either way, it maths out the same.

And I went over current selling prices in a previous post - maybe selling GR for 35, and getting Witcher specifically from Amazon for 33ish after taxes. I feel like that is a pretty realistic estimation when you take all factors into consideration. If you're able to regularly sell games for their full msrp, including any fees involving ebay or paypal, or live in a state where sales tax isn't a factor, then more power to you.[/QUOTE]

But why are you only considering the retail price of Witcher 2 and not the retail price of GR? The flipside of the trade would be selling Witcher 2 and buying GR retail. Therefore, you could maybe sell Witcher 2 for $25 and then buy GR for $43 ish after taxes. Much bigger discrepancy from that side of the trade.
 
Can we take this argument somewhere else and stay on topic? Every time I see a post here I think something may have come in stock. Desperately trying to get the best bundle from this. (UC, Resistance, GR)
 
[quote name='gettinmoney662']But why are you only considering the retail price of Witcher 2 and not the retail price of GR? The flipside of the trade would be selling Witcher 2 and buying GR retail. Therefore, you could maybe sell Witcher 2 for $25 and then buy GR for $43 ish after taxes. Much bigger discrepancy from that side of the trade.[/QUOTE]


I'm only comparing it to the side of having a copy of GR and trying to get the Witcher because the general consensus is that its a terrible trade to be the one having GR and giving it up for Witcher 2. But, if you happen to be in the that exact situation, it really isn't that much of a loss to make that exchange.

Never did I argue that Witcher guy wasn't getting a great deal!

[quote name='StryderOmega']Can we take this argument somewhere else and stay on topic? Every time I see a post here I think something may have come in stock. Desperately trying to get the best bundle from this. (UC, Resistance, GR)[/QUOTE]
Sorry Stryder, I'm a sucker for debates! I'll try and let it drop now.
 
[quote name='StryderOmega']Can we take this argument somewhere else and stay on topic? Every time I see a post here I think something may have come in stock. Desperately trying to get the best bundle from this. (UC, Resistance, GR)[/QUOTE]



Me too bro!!


Come on wal-mart, stop being a bunch of assholes and update your fuckn online inventory for gods sake.

Largest retail chain in the world and they cant pick up the phone and call their sony rep and order some extra? Gimmie a fuckN break!!!
 
[quote name='StryderOmega']Can we take this argument somewhere else and stay on topic? Every time I see a post here I think something may have come in stock. Desperately trying to get the best bundle from this. (UC, Resistance, GR)[/QUOTE]


This^^ Can't believe a mod hasn't jumped in here yet.
 
I just realized I bought my copies of HSG and wipeout from Walmart for $40 total. Legitimate return! Whoohoo!

Time to rebuy!
 
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