$400 Next gen systems? $70 games? hope not...

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MarkMark

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With this years consoles things started ut as $250 - $300 for an xbox or ps2 and $150-$200 for a gamecube

there are rumors that because of all the power behind xbox360 an ps3, they may cost up to $400! Nintendo revolution is rumored to go for a $250 mark

anyway here are my 2 questions

1- what is the max you would pay for your next gen system? (only for the system Not including games)

2- would you pay more than $50 for a new game (keep in mind game designers have tried pushing some real crap over for $50 ex: PN13, Charlies Angels, Drake of the 99 Dragons, Goldeneye rouge agent, Rouge Squadren 3, state of emergency etc)


my answers are
1- $200 for nintendo revolution maybe $250 if release titles are good
2- only a true masterpiece so far only legend of zelda TP shows promise of being that
 
I would pay $199.99 and not a penny more for the Revolution. I'd pay $250 for the Xbox 360 or PS3. For the Revolution and the 360, I think those figures could be reasonable - it is rumored that the 360 will be launching at $299 and the Revolution, like the GC, will probably want to have a significant pricing difference - but I doubt it'd happen for the PS3. There's just too much in the PS3 to make me think that they'd price it that low. Also, I don't know how willing Sony would be to hemorrhage money to get PS3 in people's living rooms.

Also, I don't pay $50 for games. So I wouldn't pay $60. It'd have to have a hell of a pack in to get that much money from me.
 
1. I'd probably pay up to $300 for a system if I really wanted one of the launch titles. More likely though I will wait for the first price drops. The higher the price of games the less likely I buy the system at launch.

2. I've paid $70 for games before. I recall paying $70 for Strider as a kid, as well as a few other games. Nowadays I don't think I would unless they REALLY blew me away with a game and that is highly unlikely.
 
I won't pay more than $250 for any system. I also don't pay $50 for games so no way I will pay $60. I don't even like paying more than $3 or $5 for a game now (I'll occasionaly go for the $10 game if I really want it). I'm patient and can wait for price drops on both hardware and software before I get a system. For now, I'll continue to buy and play the under $5, PS2, Xbox and GCN games.
 
$200 max i'll wait for the price drop if its more
no way in hell i'm paying more than 50$ for a game unless its special edition, CE, LE
if they raise prices too high i would consider getting out of gaming to save myself

so mark u'ld buy a $200-$250 revolution and a gamecube game for it instead of a revolution game?

and yoshi so u only play used sports games?
 
wasn't the PS2 and XBOX originally $300 when they launched? if i remember correctly.

Considering the processing power and Graphics chips in the next gen systems i wouldnt be suprised if they cost more the $300. I mean currently an intel pentuim 3.2GHz CPU cost around $400 alone. Since it's a Cell Processor which is supposed to be better, and new technology i would think it would cost even more. Then the Graphics chip is supposed to be twice as powerful as the current Geforce 6800 Ultras......one of those cost $400 bucks right now....but prices drop a lot in technology real fast, so i am hoping for the best.

Just for the sake of saying, i would think if they were to hypothetically release the PS3 console tommorow it would cost a good $800 at least. But it's not coming out for another 10 months around?
 
Since I dont generally buy at full retail price, especially when high, I'd say I'd like those high prices to happen. Cause it would be funny to watch it from a distance
 
$60 for a next-gen game doesn't sound too bad. I mean it's not like we at CAG are going to be paying full price anyways.
 
I'd hate to spend more than $250 on ANY console, but if the PS3 is $300 I might make an exception. If the Revolution is more than $250 and/or the PS3 is more than $300 I will definitely wait for a drop.

As for games, I almost always wait until they have dropped in price and only buy new when the game is amazing. But even in those rare cases I still am hesitant to pay retail prices. A good example of my limit would be getting RE4 when it first came out but only paying $38 shipped.

$60-70 for new games? :rofl:

The only chance they'd have of getting that kind of money out of me would be for a FF7 remake, though I'm sure it would be available at a discount somewhere online anyway.
 
It is the "amazing" games that i will avoid buying cause they will drop in price. If Atlus or Working Design are releasing games at $70 I would buy them. (Actually I already did with Arc Collection and Growlanser LE when they first came out).
 
I would pay $300 for a PS3, but no more. I'm not going to get all three consoles like I did this generation, unless something totally blows me away. I know I'm going to get a PS3 at launch and wait a long while for a Revolution (maybe when it hits $99 or $150...

I wouldn't buy games that are more than $50.... If they do end up being $70, then I'll probably get a game or two at launch, but wait for significant price drops after.
 
I would pay around $300 for a PS3, Maybe $350 but thats pushing it. It really all depends how much money I have when it is released. I didnt think I would be able to affort a PSP, but somehow I did, so who knows what could happen between now and then.
 
i don't spend more than 30 for a new game and i get this gen games as low as 10-20 dollars at pawn shops.. i expect the same next gen.
 
my birthday is 2 weeks after x-mas, and between the two i get upwards of $350 in Best Buy gift cards. i will most likely use this to preorder a PS3. As for $70 games, no frickin' way. I will buy $50 games occassionally, if they are a sure bet I will like them. $70 games will be a problem for most people and I don't see how they can hope to sell anything for $70 on top of an expensive console.
 
$200 max! I usually don't buy at launch mainly with the first batch of systems they have some kind of problems with it and not too hot a selection of games. As for paying $70, no way I would do that, unless its some kind of must have special edition.
 
I'm going to be somewhat surprised if the XBox 360 and/or PS3 launch at $300. Its POSSIBLE that they might launch at that price, in an attempt to steal marketshare from each other, but they'll be loosing SO much money at that price that its utterly ridiculous. $400 is a much more likely price, and even then, they're STILL going to be losing money on console sales (PS3 especially. Not that the PS3 is going to launch anytime near to what Sony claims - they're lying through their teeth about the launch date to steal attention from MS.)

The Revolution will be either $200 or $250, depending on MS and Sony's pricepoint, and they'll most likely be breaking even more-or-less at that price. Nintendo knows how to be efficient and not get distracted by features that will be unused by 98% of buyers. Unfortunately, they don't know that being able to beat whores to death sells games/consoles. Well, maybe not so unfortunately...
 
I think that the entire market is going to crash if anyone tries release a console for anymore than $300 and charge anymore than $50 for a game.
 
I'll go as high as $300 for any of the systems. I've paid more in the past for the 3DO and Neo Geo, but don't intend on doing that again. I won't pay more than $50 for a new game. I actually hate paying that now, and rarely do thanks to CAG. If all the games are priced high, I may hold off on purchasing the 360. No need to buy at launch if I don't buy any of the 360 games. We'll just have to see what happens.
 
[quote name='crowbb']1. I'd probably pay up to $300 for a system if I really wanted one of the launch titles. More likely though I will wait for the first price drops. The higher the price of games the less likely I buy the system at launch.

2. I've paid $70 for games before. I recall paying $70 for Strider as a kid, as well as a few other games. Nowadays I don't think I would unless they REALLY blew me away with a game and that is highly unlikely.[/QUOTE]





strider sold for 70?? damn, i rented that back then on NES, what a wicked game!!


Id pay up to 400 for next gen systems (not the nintendo.....) because they will all support my fine tv to the fullest ( i have a $ony grand wega LCD42") and the HD inputs are begging for some 720p and 1080i formats..

its funny, you should see my sega saturn on the LCD... never thought 32 bit would look...so...32 bit....

hah..
 
well iv made big purchases before and hasnt really bothered me. Id say for the xbox 360 $350 would be my limit. For the ps3 $400 I guess . Revolution I can say will be $200 no doubt about it . Im not a big spender although my new pc I made cost me a pretty penny getting all the expensive components first but it was well worth it .

Now $70 for a game is ridiculouse makes me not even wanna look at the game. Remember some people buy an ipod for 350 or 400 and all it does is play mp3s and carry around data . The new machines will entertain you for hours and hours in their virtual worlds.
 
Out of the current generation of systems, I have a Cube, a GBA SP, and a PS2, and I didn't pay over $100 for any of them. With this next generation, the only one I specifically have my eyes on is the Revolution. If they go through with the native VGA output, I *will* own one of those at some point to play on my giant VGA monitor, though I don't know when I'll pick it up...probably after the first price drop. I'm not interested at all in the XBox360, and if PS3 is $300 at launch, it's gonna be a LONG time before I pick it up.
 
I wouldn't mind paying for $300 for the PS3, I might be tempted to pay a little more. If the prices on the next gen consoles are going to have a high price point, then I guess I will have to stick to one system for a while.
 
[quote name='mgriff']I think that the entire market is going to crash if anyone tries release a console for anymore than $300 and charge anymore than $50 for a game.[/QUOTE]

That's simply impossible, given the size of the game industry (in terms of sales); the largest difference between the current scenario and the past scenario is that almost all of this income is the result of gaming in the home (in the past, presumably due to the proliferation of arcades, the proportion spent on home and arcade games was obviously much larger).

At any rate, there is simply too much money for it to crash so easily (not to mention the installed base of gamers is enormous); even if the next generation gets off to a rocky start, there are enough AAA titles coming out for current consoles that will help stabilize the gaming economy in the (unlikely) event that the next generation overprices itself.

I also think that people are willing to spend more on home electronics; at least, that's what I'm convinced of every time I see the price of televisions in Sunday circulars (though the high price for HDTVs may be due to the fact that they could arguably still be selling to "early adopters.")

A price too high may be suicide; one could make that argument for the TG-16 (and the CD!), the Saturn, and the 3D0 (good god! $750 at launch!). However, one thing these consoles had in common was not just a poor lineup of launch titles, but a relative drought (sp?) of new titles coming in after that (IIRC). So, the cost of entry was already very high (what was the lauch price of the Saturn? $400? $500?), but with few blockbuster titles, there was little incentive to do so.

The Saturn also "shocked" the industry by arriving months prior to a speculated date (and given the lack of launch and other early titles, they shocked developers too, presumably). This "shock" did not translate into excitement, though - consumers were not prepared to invest so much money into a console that they did not think was arriving for a few months. Think to yourself if you would have the money to purchase an Xbox 360 if it came out this week; could you make the investment?

Short story long, the gaming industry is doing just fine; I wonder if an ironic crash could come from keeping titles at $50 (to keep consumers happy), while development costs continue to rise, reducing the profit margin to an undesirable low. This is highly unlikely, so we'll see how it turns out.

myke.
 
Max for system: $299.99
Max for game: $59.99

But I most likely won't buy a system on its release because I hate paying for overpriced 1st gen games that aren't worth the disc itself.

Btw, PN13 is not crap, it is an awesome game. Not worth $50 maybe, but it is easily one of my favorite games on the cube.
 
Revolution would not be to bad at $200-$250 for me. Which I think Nintendo could get away with a lower price point.

If Microsoft is hungry enough, they will bring 360 out under $300. If they can do this with decent launch titles I would go for it.

Sony on the other hand could only take so much of a loss. Considering how much they have in the PS3, a $400 price point would not surprise me. I probably would not spend over $300 on a new console. It's going to take something special to have me pay more than that (and it's not the controllers :) ).

I could go for a $60(max) game if it was really good. Only spend that kind of dough on games I really want now. Like Guildwars! :p
 
$200 is my limit for any console. I will likely buy the PS3 at around $200, the Revolution at around $150 (assuming it follows a similar path as the GC) and $100-$150 for the 360. If games for the 360 wow me though the 360 could swap places with the PS3. That's pretty much what I have done this generation. I don't have an Xbox yet though - waiting for that $100 price point.
 
I'm really not into buying any systems at launch. There's rarely any games worth playing at launch, and the software prices don't start to come down for over a year. I'll stick with the current systems for a while because at least their games can sometimes be found at bargain prices.
 
I was going to be valiant and wait for pricedrops on all three, but I can't resist Revolution with online Smash Brothers at launch. I'd be willing to pay $250 for the combo.
 
I'd probably pay $200 for a next gen console. Since both the PS3 and Xbox 360 will certainly launch above that, I'll probably be waiting for a while. But that's fine with me as I wouldn't really want to buy a console until the first couple rounds of software have a chance to drop in price, too. (I'm not paying $50 for a game, let alone over $50. A game has to be pretty damn good for me to pay $20.)

I could MAYBE see myself spending more for the PS3, as I'd then be able to play all the PS2 games I've missed out on so far. But I'd probably just buy a cheap PS2 to do that in the interim. Hopefully PS2s will be cheap on the secondary market once the PS3 drops.
 
Considering that we don't know enough about the Revolution yet I can' t really answer that. If the system is really nothing more than what we saw today than I have no reason to even buy one. The fact is that we haven't seen any games running, we don't know how the controller looks like, and we only know of a few games coming out. Without seeing what it is capable of there is no way I can put a price on it yet.
 
wait. didn't games retail for 59.99 until only the last generation or two? i remember N64 games starting out at that price since they were still carts and cost more to produce. I mean, it's only since the introduction of the cheaper cd media that the $50 price became standard, right? so if prices were high and then went down, i certainly don't mind paying the original price from a few years ago.

im mean really, besides the consumer electronics industry, what prices have gone down or stayed the same for an improved product?

oh, and for the OP, Rogue Squadron 3 was not crap.
 
$299 is reasonable because its 'bout the same price as a cheap eMac PC. I'd regret buying the Xbox at $299.99 over 3 years ago at CompUSA, like 2 months before it dropped to $199.99.
 
[quote name='MarkMark']With this years consoles things started ut as $250 - $300 for an xbox or ps2 and $150-$200 for a gamecube

there are rumors that because of all the power behind xbox360 an ps3, they may cost up to $400! Nintendo revolution is rumored to go for a $250 mark

anyway here are my 2 questions

1- what is the max you would pay for your next gen system? (only for the system Not including games)

2- would you pay more than $50 for a new game (keep in mind game designers have tried pushing some real crap over for $50 ex: PN13, Charlies Angels, Drake of the 99 Dragons, Goldeneye rouge agent, Rouge Squadren 3, state of emergency etc)


my answers are
1- $200 for nintendo revolution maybe $250 if release titles are good
2- only a true masterpiece so far only legend of zelda TP shows promise of being that[/QUOTE]

1) $150 for a system, unless something warrants a higher price purchase, possibly this revo game library, depending on how it pans out.

2) i would if the game deserves it. the only 3 games this gen that are worth that price tag imo are animal crossing (i bought a freakin DS for this game!) culdcept, and arc the lad: twilight of the spirits.
 
I want one of those 360's bad and a PS3 worse...
but I haven't even gotten full use out of my PS2! so dropping that kind of cash is implausable for me at this time. Xmas could be good this year
A blown out Xbox (hard drive and something else) is rumored to cost $360... get it?
 
I MIGHT be willing to pay 400 for a next gen system, not for the revolution though. As for 70 for a game, I don't know about that one...
 
i look at it this way. current high end pc video cards go from $400-500 easy. and thats just for the video card, not the cpu, mobo or memory. you dont even get the keyboard or gamepad. so if a next gen system comes out that produces the same quality of game that a pc can do, plus have extra functionality (like mp3 or movie playback) then $400 is a bargain.

hell, if they could somehow fit microsoft word on the xbox 360, i may as well just sell my PC.
 
Don't buy the systems and they will have to drop the prices. It's all about supply and demand. If you don't demand the system to sale them they will have to drop the price.

1. No, I wouldn't pay 400 bucks but if I buy enough cheap games the system in the end probably will only cost about 200 bucks depending on where you trade the games in.

2. No, I am to cheap to buy games at such a high price. I can wait till they drop the price for the fact that backwards compatibility is in effect and I can take advantage of the trade 2 for Pre-order at $29.99 at Gamerush.
 
[quote name='cdeener']Don't buy the systems and they will have to drop the prices. It's all about supply and demand. If you don't demand the system to sale them they will have to drop the price.[/QUOTE]

ok, so we should all go stand outside our local best buy on launch days and try to convicnce everyone that if they dont buy the systems and wait, it will save them some money?

i think the hospital bills you end up incurring by trying this will far outweight the price of any console.
 
[quote name='jalu6']ok, so we should all go stand outside our local best buy on launch days and try to convicnce everyone that if they dont buy the systems and wait, it will save them some money?

i think the hospital bills you end up incurring by trying this will far outweight the price of any console.[/QUOTE]

No, it isn't like that. I am just saying that if people didn't always live by the "I have to have it first" mentality we could get the companies to lower their prices soon after launch. For example, when most games don't sale well within a few months after launch what happens they drop the price. It probably won't happen but it is just a thought.
 
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