40gb PS3 $399, no bc - 11/2, $499 80gb, limited bc, now. 56,877 new skus rumored

[quote name='Thomas96']I know you don't own anything... especially not a ps3... LOL you're right... you are the cheapest gamer... if Sony sells blu ray... you'd rather them take back the blu and you'd just buy the ray. CAGs aren't affraid to spend money, being a CAG doesn't mean, not buying anything... or saying that all the extras included in something are bells and whistles. Saying that the things that are included in the PS3 are useless or not needed, is just you being cheap and making excuses not to buy something. Get real...[/quote]

But see, if it's stuff I won't use, then why should I be forced to buy it? That's the great thing about PCs, is that I can build my own system to MY specs and not have stuff I don't need costing me extra money.

And ya know, I thought CAGs are on here to make the best deal they can and last time I checked, $500 wasn't a 'cheap ass deal'.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']But see, if it's stuff I won't use, then why should I be forced to buy it? That's the great thing about PCs, is that I can build my own system to MY specs and not have stuff I don't need costing me extra money.

And ya know, I thought CAGs are on here to make the best deal they can and last time I checked, $500 wasn't a 'cheap ass deal'.[/QUOTE]


500 for ps3 isn't a deal,
479 for 360 isn't a deal,
249 for Wii isn't a deal,
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= a load of crap...


let us know when its okay for a true CAG to buy.
 
[quote name='Thomas96']500 for ps3 isn't a deal,
479 for 360 isn't a deal,
249 for Wii isn't a deal,
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= a load of crap...


let us know when its okay for a true CAG to buy.[/QUOTE]


probably sometime in the year 2010
 
[quote name='Thomas96']500 for ps3 isn't a deal,
479 for 360 isn't a deal,
249 for Wii isn't a deal,
---------------------------------
= a load of crap...


let us know when its okay for a true CAG to buy.[/QUOTE]
$479 for a 360?

Core - $280
Pro - $350
Elite - $450

I like how you make it seem like $479 is what most people are paying for a 360 :lol:
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']But see, if it's stuff I won't use, then why should I be forced to buy it? That's the great thing about PCs, is that I can build my own system to MY specs and not have stuff I don't need costing me extra money.[/QUOTE]

Just want to point out that PCs aren't sold for a loss. While you get the components you want, in some cases, you may actually be spending more than you would on a console of equal power, but you still wouldn't have the 'unnecessary' extras.
 
[quote name='zewone']$479 for a 360?

Core - $280
Pro - $350
Elite - $450

I like how you make it seem like $479 is what most people are paying for a 360 :lol:[/QUOTE]


thank you for the update zewone. I wasn't posting the price of the 360 to make a point about what people were paying for it. I got my 360 core for 250, seeing that the price dropped core is 280 makes me feel pretty good.
 
[quote name='Thomas96']500 for ps3 isn't a deal,
479 for 360 isn't a deal,
249 for Wii isn't a deal,
---------------------------------
= a load of crap...


let us know when its okay for a true CAG to buy.[/quote]

The prices for a PS3, 360 and Wii aren't a deal to me, since(and I hate to use this but....) the 360 breaks down too much, the Wii is just an 'overglorified Gamecube +'(trying to get rid of the NIB GC I have now which I never used) and the PS3 just has too much crap I won't use on it to be worth it for me.

Some may use the movie playback function, I won't, some may use the card reader, I won't, some may use the WiFi, I won't.

What I want/need is a game machine, not a multimedia hub.

But, I guess my opinion is wrong, since 'the PS3 offers so much'(to everyone but me).
 
[quote name='Thomas96']thank you for the update zewone. I wasn't posting the price of the 360 to make a point about what people were paying for it. I got my 360 core for 250, seeing that the price dropped core is 280 makes me feel pretty good.[/quote] if you got the core for 250 why did you say the 360 was 479?
does not compute:lol:

& youre not alone waiting for the price to drop. if i didnt get my PS3 for $350 i wouldnt have gotten it until it dropped in price to at least $400.


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from http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5883&Itemid=2
 
For the Japan-only market, mebbe? They've been pricing lower in the mother country since release.

Edit: production on the EE-chip for PS3 has stopped so yeah, there's no reason for them to start up again to put in these alleged 40GB systems.

IMO $399.99 for a 40GB system is a very good thing. I know my buddy would pick one up at that price, if it were true. It is simple and painless to upgrade the HDD whenever you need to anyway.
 
[quote name='propeller_head']if you got the core for 250 why did you say the 360 was 479?
does not compute:lol:

& youre not alone waiting for the price to drop. if i didnt get my PS3 for $350 i wouldnt have gotten it until it dropped in price to at least $400.

from http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5883&Itemid=2[/QUOTE]


I was referring to the Elite bundle, and plus 248.88 is not an avg price, so I wouldn't ever use it as a standard price... heck I just got lucky.
 
[quote name='Thomas96']I was referring to the Elite bundle, and plus 248.88 is not an avg price, so I wouldn't ever use it as a standard price... heck I just got lucky.[/quote] when the core dropped to 279 the elite dropped to 449. still dont get it.
unless you somehow managed to get the core for 250 before the price drop happened, and never heard about the price drop.
but anyway, who buys the elite. especially on CAG? ;)
 
[quote name='FxhoundADAM']What's funny is that one thing that is kinda putting me off from getting a PS3 is the fact that I'm totally addicted to acheievement points and if I got a PS3 I would only be buy the exclusive games as I would probably purchase the 360 version of anything else.

While the PS3 will have a pretty good exclusive lineup by next year I'm just not sure if it's enough to drop $500 on.[/QUOTE]

i was the same way with achievements *gamescore was close to 70k* but now i have a ps3 and i like it alot i could care less about achievements i am spend less on crappy games. on the 360 in order to maintain a gamerscore like i did i had to either buy or gamefly a game. so i n the long run i am not buying as much and the blu ray. i had the hd player for 360 it was alright but in the long run i feel blu ray will win.

just my 2 cents
 
[quote name='propeller_head']when the core dropped to 279 the elite dropped to 449. still dont get it.
unless you somehow managed to get the core for 250 before the price drop happened, and never heard about the price drop.
but anyway, who buys the elite. especially on CAG? ;)[/QUOTE]


that's exactly what happened, I got the core at 248.88 from brandsmart long before the official price drop. Even posted it in the region section of CAG, got the 20gb hard drive for under 68.88
 
[quote name='nikelecious91']I really really really hope they announce that 40gb PS3..

I'd rather want a PS3 with no HDD for $250-$300 but I doubt they'd do that.[/quote]HDD is required for games.
 
[quote name='crewj']just bought at 60g from buy.com - 10.00. humm... i guess i should have waited.[/quote]Well this isn't offical yet. Chances are if it doesn't happen next week then the next price drop won't be until somtime in 2008.
 
[quote name='dallow']40GB PS3 confirmed at TGS guys.
No price stated yet, but likely $399.[/quote]And said 40GB PS3 will be EE-neutered like the 80GB, of course.
 
[quote name='dallow']EE-less, and probably minus wifi and card readers ala the 20GB.[/quote]They can ditch the card readers, as I'm probably only going to use them when I swap out my 60GB drive and need to back up the info before swapping the drive.

Dumping the WiFi, that's a touchier subject for some people. Mine runs via Ethernet to an access point where it's currently at, though if I wanted to move it to another TV temporarily, the WiFi on-board would be a help.

WiFi chipsets are so damned cheap, I'm surprised they'd cut it out to get the 40GB at the $399 price. Same goes for the card readers.
 
Yuck. I'd prefer it if they stopped fucking around with the systems and only varied the HDD. I can live with the lack of EE (since, from what I've *read*, PS2 BC is mostly a-ok on the EE-less dudes), but stop fucking changing it around.

$400 40GB w/ all the trimmings of the 80GB model FTW.

EDIT: Am I the only one who uses card readers? downloading game saves for PS2/PS3 games is *awesome*, IMO (haven't tried PSX yet). And my wife likes using the compact flash slot for viewing her photos in HD (pleasepleaseplease don't let that ever lead to having people over for slideshows!).

And the SD slot gets used b/c I bought 2 2GB for $2 from buy.com, so I had an extra one sittin' around.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Yuck. I'd prefer it if they stopped fucking around with the systems and only varied the HDD. I can live with the lack of EE (since, from what I've *read*, PS2 BC is mostly a-ok on the EE-less dudes), but stop fucking changing it around.

$400 40GB w/ all the trimmings of the 80GB model FTW.

EDIT: Am I the only one who uses card readers? downloading game saves for PS2/PS3 games is *awesome*, IMO (haven't tried PSX yet). And my wife likes using the compact flash slot for viewing her photos in HD (pleasepleaseplease don't let that ever lead to having people over for slideshows!).

And the SD slot gets used b/c I bought 2 2GB for $2 from buy.com, so I had an extra one sittin' around.[/quote]The EE being gone was a given at this point.

Dumping the card readers and the WiFi would shave more off the price, though it only really saves them about $20 or so, in the quantities they'd be buying them in. I guess they have to shave those pennies as closely as possible.

I wonder if it'll have the chrome accents of the 60GB (and the 80GB), or have the all-black look of the 20GB.

My current digicam takes SD cards, so having that slot on there is nice to show pics on the PS3's screen. CF slot, I'd probably buy something for it when I decide to swap out the drive in the PS3 for something bigger and backup to that. Either that or a MSP Duo.
 
[quote name='dallow']HDD is required for games.[/quote]

Says who? I kinda liked the 20gb model because it had all the stuff I would want(well, cept Blu-Ray, which is just Sony shoving a high def format down our throats for THEIR benefit)and almost nothing I didn't.

I don't see myself as downloading alot of stuff, so 20gb's would be more than enough for my purposes. But, if more games go the way of Warhawk with online only multiplayer and nothing else, I may skip this gen altogether.

Plus, $49.99 per controller for any extras? Pffffffft!! I guess if my buddies wanna play on the PS3, if I ever get one, they're gonna shell out the money for a controller cause I even scoffed at $29.99 last gen for Sony and MS's replacement controllers.

Also, no ports for PS1/PS2 controllers or memory cards, but a $15 extra peripheral which most will use ONE time for memory cards only? I guess Sony went the way of MS this gen and denied any of their past systems owners from having full BC in more than one way.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']Says who? I kinda liked the 20gb model because it had all the stuff I would want(well, cept Blu-Ray, which is just Sony shoving a high def format down our throats for THEIR benefit)and almost nothing I didn't.

I don't see myself as downloading alot of stuff, so 20gb's would be more than enough for my purposes. But, if more games go the way of Warhawk with online only multiplayer and nothing else, I may skip this gen altogether.

Plus, $49.99 per controller for any extras? Pffffffft!! I guess if my buddies wanna play on the PS3, if I ever get one, they're gonna shell out the money for a controller cause I even scoffed at $29.99 last gen for Sony and MS's replacement controllers.

Also, no ports for PS1/PS2 controllers or memory cards, but a $15 extra peripheral which most will use ONE time for memory cards only? I guess Sony went the way of MS this gen and denied any of their past systems owners from having full BC in more than one way.[/quote]Says every game on PS3.
You need a Hard Drive in the machine.
 
[quote name='dallow']Says every game on PS3.
You need a Hard Drive in the machine.[/quote]

Well, I wouldn't know that, since I haven't even looked at a single PS3 game or game case ever. I just figured it was one of those things that was optional, like on the 360 and Wii.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']Well, I wouldn't know that, since I haven't even looked at a single PS3 game or game case ever. I just figured it was one of those things that was optional, like on the 360 and Wii.[/quote]Nah, since the HDD is built into every PS3, it's a standard, and they don't need to make games for different configurations.
 
[quote name='dallow']HDD is required for games.[/quote]

lol yeah of course but you can find cheap hard drives to put in yourself.

40GB PS3 confirmed at TGS guys.
No price stated yet, but likely $399.

Source? Or are you just speculating?
 
[quote name='nikelecious91']lol yeah of course but you can find cheap hard drives to put in yourself.



Source? Or are you just speculating?[/quote]Games Radar website. Don't have direct link anymore.

Sony will announce it tonight our time.

And yes, you can put your own drive in, but the system is made for everybody. And not everyone is so inclined as to be able to install a hard drive themselves.
HDD is the standard, there will never be a PS3 without one.

PS. I have a 120GB in mine.
 
[quote name='dallow']Games Radar website. Don't have direct link anymore.

Sony will announce it tonight our time.

And yes, you can put your own drive in, but the system is made for everybody. And not everyone is so inclined as to be able to install a hard drive themselves.
HDD is the standard, there will never be a PS3 without one.

PS. I have a 120GB in mine.[/quote]

Alright our time as in..? I'm in EST time.
 
IF this price announcement happens tonight or this weekend what do you think will be the price of the current 60 gig models?
40 gig: $400
60 gig: $450 ?
80 gig bundle: $550 ?
 
60GB should drop to 499 and lose the pack in game.
The price on the 40GB version isn't confirmed I should say, but it is coming, unless I've been duped.

The Sony presentation will be at 8:30CST.
 
Don't you mean 80gb dallow?

Also, I've heard the 40gb one WILL have wifi. Just not the card readers. Which is fine by me since USB card readers cost like $5 anyway.
I don't care what Microsoft says, wifi is a HUGE deal to be packed in. It's a feature every gamer wants, especially since all other consoles have it. I have a 360, and I had to wrestle to have it connected via wired.

Where would I get a bigger HDD? I have the 60gb model in there, but I want to swap out for a bigger one down the line. Maybe, for say a 200gb one.
 
Is there going to be a video feed for the presentation? Another debaucherous conference time Cag chat session?
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Don't you mean 80gb dallow?

Also, I've heard the 40gb one WILL have wifi. Just not the card readers. Which is fine by me since USB card readers cost like $5 anyway.
I don't care what Microsoft says, wifi is a HUGE deal to be packed in. It's a feature every gamer wants, especially since all other consoles have it. I have a 360, and I had to wrestle to have it connected via wired.

Where would I get a bigger HDD? I have the 60gb model in there, but I want to swap out for a bigger one down the line. Maybe, for say a 200gb one.[/quote]

Yeah Wi-Fi is kinda a must for me know. My computer and router is on once side of the room and the 360 is on the other. Theres a door in between and I gotta put the wires over the door and hang my router on the wall just to get it closer.

I've heard Wi-Fi is pretty slow though?
 
good news is that a price drop is coming. That address was short but specific... cheaper ps3, partnerships with companies, rumble, and ps3/psp networking. I think that Sony wants to do well this holiday season, go into 08 on a high note. Sony doesn't need to announce a price drop at TGS.. that's something that needs to just happen. Cause if they announce price to being in November... then from today on to Nov. no PS3s will sell. Hopefully they'll be a drop towards the end of oct/ early nov.
 
[quote name='Thomas96'] Cause if they announce price to being in November... then from today on to Nov. no PS3s will sell. Hopefully they'll be a drop towards the end of oct/ early nov.[/QUOTE]



at least, they won't sell any to the .5% of the gaming population that pays attention to TGS.
 
[quote name='Thomas96']good news is that a price drop is coming. That address was short but specific... cheaper ps3, partnerships with companies, rumble, and ps3/psp networking. I think that Sony wants to do well this holiday season, go into 08 on a high note. Sony doesn't need to announce a price drop at TGS.. that's something that needs to just happen. Cause if they announce price to being in November... then from today on to Nov. no PS3s will sell. Hopefully they'll be a drop towards the end of oct/ early nov.[/quote]I guess you're a little more optomistic abuot the PS3 but as someone who was planning on picking one up this weekend that keynote did little to really make me want to do that. If anything they made me kinda want to wait and see a little longer, like sometime next year.
 
[quote name='dallow']60GB should drop to 499 and lose the pack in game.
The price on the 40GB version isn't confirmed I should say, but it is coming, unless I've been duped.

The Sony presentation will be at 8:30CST.[/QUOTE]
I guess you've been duped.
 
Uh, I wasn't expecting a SKU change in the announcement, because it would have dealt with the Japanese market. The Japanese market still has a 20GB and 60GB (I doubt the Japanese will be losing the EE anytime soon).

I'm thinking around October, we may hear something, if it is true.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']Uh, I wasn't expecting a SKU change in the announcement, because it would have dealt with the Japanese market. The Japanese market still has a 20GB and 60GB (I doubt the Japanese will be losing the EE anytime soon).

I'm thinking around October, we may hear something, if it is true.[/quote]Well I think Sony lost their oppertunity. A Price drop now would have gotten their name in the news a little but without the drop it's all jokes about their rumble and Halo 3 hype. If they wait till October they can still push some systems for the holidays but I HIGHLY doubt anyone will drop their price that close to Christmas, it just doesn't make sense from a business standpoint as they will sell regardless. It's these slower times when a price drop makes a difference.

Chances are that since we didn't see a price droptoday we won't be seeing one till 2008. My guess is with some sype of new package with the rumble controler.
 
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